#versandrogyne

[androgyne-homosapiens]

Androgyne gender identity

Definition:

Androgyne, androgyn or androgynous gender, is an identity under the nonbinary and transgender umbrellas. Androgynes have a gender identity that can be a blend of both or neither of the binary genders. They may describe this as being between female and male, between man and woman, between masculine and feminine or simply 'in between.' They can also identify as neither feminine or masculine, or neither female and male.

from the nonbinary wiki

As stated in the definition, androgyne people are trans (they don't identify exclusively as the gender they were assigned at birth), and nonbinary (they are not one of the binary genders). Of course it is up to an individual to choose the words they use to identify themselves with.

The word androgyne has an interesting history, at times it was used as an umbrella term similar to nonbinary (I won't go in to much more detail here, but there is more info in the nonbinary wiki).

androgyne, androgyny, androgynous

As a rule, androgyne refers to a gender identity, while Androgyny refers to gender expression (androgynous would be the word used to describe an individual using androgyny as their gender expression). A person may identify as androgyne, and not be androgynous, and a person my be androgynous and not identify as androgyne.

But the split isn't quite so clear. In theory:

Androgyny is a wide category of gender expression that either mixes or omits markers of both feminine and masculine gender expression.

The nonbinary wiki

But,

Androgyny possession of both masculine and feminine characteristics. Androgyny may be expressed with regard to biological sex, gender identity, or gender expression.

Wikipedia

It is explained well in this post, but I think a good way to understand the difference is that androgyne is an androgynous gender identity. While androgyne will be used as a gender identity, and androgyny is more general reference to a blend of male and female characteristics.

What is overall the most important to understand that use of these words for individuals will vary. General use of these terms has changed over time. If an individual feels that these words help them to understand themselves (even if they don't fit the "exact definitions") then that is what is important. Words are here to benefit us.

Here is a useful graphic to understand the "androgyne spectrum":

androgyne spectrum

[ID: a scale, starting from the left with "Female" and "Feminine", then "Gynx", "Androgyne" and "Androgynous", "Androx", "Male" and "Masculine". End]

from this post, by @bentonthegay. And this post gives a good explanation about it, and about androgyne as a gender identity:

I think that the specific thing that makes Androgyne an identity all its own that I believe is within the center of the gender spectrum, right alongside other non-binary genders that blur the line between “male” and “female”. Androgyne is the “neither” and/or “both” of the spectrum. It’s a bit of a blend of selected traits from both sides. Given, that means very different things to different people, so I imagine that not every Androgyne person dresses or behaves just like I do. [...] The part of the identity that sets it apart is how Androgyne people feel about themselves.  As an Androgyne person, I believe that I am not a man or a woman. I reside comfortably between the extremes. So I guess it’s not just a mix, it’s more that I’m a blurred segment of the gradient between them. I do believe that Androgyne is an identity by itself and not just “a mix of female and male traits”. Given, that’s like saying a banana split is just ice cream with bananas and sweet toppings. You’re not wrong, but it’s not just that.

post by @androgynepositivity

Another important point to remember that while androgyne is a mix of the two binary genders, it is also connected to neutrality, being in the middle of the spectrum, it is "both" and "neither", and can be different for each person.

Similarly, androgyny can be both presenting femininely and masculinely at the same time, or more of a neutral look, neither feminine nor masculine.

multigender?

Depending on the person, androgynes may see themselves as falling under the multigender umbrella.

in the "Brochure for the Human Outreach and Achievement Institute" (1987) the following definition is found:

Androgyne: A person who can comfortably express either alternative gender role in a variety of socially acceptable environments. (Includes bigenderist)

Source

This is both an interesting historical look on the meaning of androgyne, but also the close connection androgyne has with the multigender (and in particular bigender) community.

The meaning of bigender has expanded in the past 30+ years. It refers to people who have two specific gender identities, these identities may be male and female but also may not be. Seemingly this can include androgynes.

The choice to include oneself under the multigender/bigender umbrella should be a personnel one. Do I feel like being androgyne is a mix of two things? Or perhaps it is one identity, one gender? Maybe the experiences of multigendered people resonate with me, and I would like to be connected to their community regardless? The history connects androgynes and multigended people. At any rate, we are all queer and therefore connected.

micro-labels

Femandrogyne: an androgyne person that feels more feminine than masculine.

Mascandrogyne: an androgyne that feels more masculine than feminine.

Neutrandrogyne: an androgyne with equal amounts of masculinity and femininity, and/or simply neutral.

Versandrogyne: an androgyne with amounts of femininity and masculinity that fluctuate, for example they could go between femandrogyne and mascandrogyne.

Demiandrogyne: an androgyne who relates partially, but not fully, to the androgyne experience (this term is also under the demigender umbrella).

Thank to @androgyne-culture-is in this post for the deffintions, they can also be found in the LGBTQIA+ Wiki.

flags and symbols

The official androgyne pride flag is:

[ID: flag with three vertical stripes, in the colors, from left to right: pink, purple, and light blue. End]

The pink represents femininity, the light blue masculinity, and the purple a mix of them both.

This is a great post explaining about other flags that are less known, based off the nonbinary wiki.

One important symbol is:

[ID: a circle with an arrow coming out of the top, and a horizontal line underneath the triangle of the arrow. End]

This symbol is a mix of female (Venus) and male (Mars) symbols. It is also an intersex symbol, and a symbol for other genders. In the image the symbol is pointing up, but it is sometimes depicted pointing to other directions.

Another important symbol is the Necker Cube:

[ID: illustration of a cube. End]

Necker Cube n. 1. An optical illusion in the shape of a cube. May take either of two forms:

Proposed by the author as a symbol of androgyny, because it is either concave or convex depending on how you look at it. I prefer this to the mars-plus-venus sign, which depends upon a juxtaposition of stereotpyes (sword and shield for male, looking-glass for female), and which, furthermore, combines the signs for the two most irritating gods in the Roman pantheon. If we must depend on Greek mythology, I would prefer to take a cue from Janus and use some variation of the two-faces motif on the cover of some editions of The Left Hand of Darkness. The Necker cube, however, is simpler, and suggests ambiguity in more than mere gender. Who wants to design the lapel pin?

 The Angel’s Dictionary, part of the Androgyny RAQ

And for more info: Practical Androgyny

There is much more history to the word and identity. Many more experiences it could include, but there is only so much I can cover. I do hope that nothing I've written makes it seem like this identity has rigid rules that need to be adhered to in order to identify with it. On the contrary. This seems to be a very broad and open way of identifying, and different aspects of it may resonate with many.

[enbeehive]

Hey! I decided to make a new androgyneutral flag based on personal preferences, as well as just being an androgyneutral person wanting to create a flag for community visibility.

The trans flag has 5 stripes, so I wanted to use that as a springboard for this one's format. The colors are based on a previous androgyneutral flag, as well as the genderqueer one, but have their own meanings too. From top to bottom they are: androgyny (purple), history (lavender), the vastness of community (white), authenticity (pale green) and neutrality (dark green). I wanted to create something nice with this color scheme, as well as showcase the beauty of androgyneutrality.

Androgyneutral describes someone who is nonbinary and has both androgynous and neutral components to their gender, exclusively or otherwise. It can also describe a particular way of being multigender / having more than one gender identity, if that's how a particular androgyneutral person wishes to express themself. What androgyny and neutrality means to each individual person can vary, but that's honestly part of the beauty behind it all!

[ask-pride-color-schemes]

I’ve had a really hard time feeling like any flags simultaneously represent being Demi, Pan, and Versandrogyne.

I’m not really sure what to call this sexuality, but I really like the sound Omnifrogyne

Being an omnifrogyne combines several specific areas of being queer simultaneously. It involves gender identity always being on the fluctuating spectrum of masculine to feminine androgyny and always ultimately identifying as androgynous. Omnifrogynes typically prefer they/them pronouns for sake of ease, but can also be flexible to accept all pronouns. Omnifrogynes aren’t picky about what gender identities or sexual orientations they’re attracted to as long as the person they are attracted to has a beautiful personality. They have flexible sexuality presentation of no specific gender yet somehow is fluid across all genders, they can be into monoamory or polyamory, no preference on partners as long as personalities vibe. Omnifrogynes are the chameleons of the queer community and can participate in almost any type of relationship dynamic. Omnifrogynes are typically widely accepting and understanding and are very open to being flexible in any relationship. If you’ve ever been worried that you might not find a partner that accepts you for you, you should try being with an omnifrogyne because they are a very flexible person and will above all else fall in love with you for your personality. One that seems to be anything you want and accepts anyone, as long as they LOVE your personality. I’ve included 2 variations of this flag that include parts of the versandrogyne, pansexual, and demisexual flags.

[imoga-pride]

What's the difference between androgyneflux and versandrogyne?

I can't distinguish them in my regular thinking, because they are very similar and I guess the coiners coined them without knowing the other term and vice versa. Not sure when exactly versandrogyne came into play, but it's not originally defined as genderflux (unsure if genderflux was coined at that time).

Some also use androgyne as an autonomous/independent gender from masculinity and femininity, then if we think that androgyneflux fluctuates in androgyny, versandrogyne fluctuates the amount of masc and fem qualities. Not all androgynes define them as both masculinely and femininely gendered, although it's a thing for other androgynes. Androgynity/androgyneness is polysemous - has different definitions - because it's a historical word and has many users/self-indentifiers.

But pretty sure you can use them interchangeably

[transstarfolk]

this may be an odd ask but. i would like a headmate pack for tilin from qsmp, but like. not tilin. looks like tilin but they're a changeling (like in the fairy myths and such) and that's the most specific i was thinking

Note — Headmates will most likely not form 100% accurate to the template, and any/all information can be changed to fit your system.

(Image 1 — Image 2 — Image 3)

Name(/s) — Tilín, Marigold, Haven, Bullet, Adilyn, Locust, Sapling

Species — Changeling/Shapeshifter, primarily appears as human/dragon hybrid

Age — Ageless, teenchroded, age regressor (5-8)

System — Shapeshifter, Semi-fictive (QSMP), BAHtive

3rdp. Pronouns — it/its, h-/h-m, sh-/h-r, they/them, ix/ixs, xe/xir, ty/tyr, ce/cem, fae/faer, fairy/fairys, shift/shifts

2ndp. Pronouns (you/your/yours/yourself) — you/your, xou/xour/xours/xourself, rei/reir/reirs/reirself, vou/vour/vours/vourself

1stp. Pronouns (I/me/my/mine/myself) — I/me, X/xe/xy/xine/xyself, V/ve/vy/vine/vyself

Gender — Nonbinary, androxgynxfluid, versandrogynous, genderfrith, mossthing, caladiboy, pinguiculagender, shapeshiftic

Attraction/Orientation — straight queer, aroaceflux, vexbian

Other IDs — cherrygrovehearthome, mushfilhearthic, minecrafthearthic, love emsoul

(Image 1 — Image 2 — Image 3)

Likes — Flowers, forests, being outside, being around others (especially meatspace humans), studying human history/behavior (has a fascination with them and uses its shapeshifting abilities to "blend in" with them), open world/sandbox games, folktalkes

Dislikes — Loud noises, being abandoned, being left alone for too long, being outcasted & seeing others being outcasted (will make an effort to try to include others in activities if fae sees them alone), rainstorms

Aesthetics — Naturecore, Fairycore, Ethereal, Mushroomcore

Proxy Options — 🌾🍄/🌱🌻/🥚🎀

Extra Notes — Has a "base" form outside of h-r most used one but hates to have anyone see it. Quick to trust others and likes to see the best in things.

[fairytalefragments]

❥ | ZIM

— versandrogyne icons for anonymous ; like/rb + credit if using

[obscurian]

[PT: Versandrogynous Pride Flag /end PT]

Versandrogynous Pride Flag

Versandrogyne/Versandrogyny (versatile androgyne): an androgyne whose amount of femininity and masculinity fluctuates.

See also: androgyneflux, gynxfluid, androxfluid.

-Ap

[leucoma]

what pride flag is in your icon on your personal blog?

it’s the versandrogyne flag! i don’t talk about this often but so far it’s the label that fits me best regarding my experience with gender, but i’m still looking. i know finding a specific label isn’t the most important thing in the world but i thought it described me very, very well

(from the LGBTQIA+ wiki)

[neopronouns]

fightcharsic | fightcharless werfightchar | wiffightchar

fightcharsic: a gender related to fighting game characters

fightcharless: a gender related to genderless fighting game characters

werfightchar: a gender related to male fighting game characters

wiffightchar: a gender related to female fighting game characters

[pt: fightcharsic: a gender related to fighting game characters

fightcharless: a gender related to genderless fighting game characters

werfightchar: a gender related to male fighting game characters

wiffightchar: a gender related to female fighting game characters. end pt]

for @versandrogyne! all flags use the -charic flag format and colors i associate with fighting games and the fightcharless, werfightchar, and wiffightchar flags use colors i associate with the gender qualities.

the first term is 'fight' from 'fighting', 'char' and 's' from 'characters', + 'ic'; the second replaces the 'ic' with 'less' from 'genderless'; the third removes the 'ic' and adds 'wer', meaning 'male'/'man' in old english, at the beginning; and the fourth removes the 'ic' and adds 'wif', meaning 'female'/'woman' in old english, at the beginning.

flag id: four flags with 6 stripes, with the third and fourth being smaller than the rest. the top left flag's stripes, in order, are brown, orange-brown, dark grey, very dark grey, faded orangish-red, and dark red. the top right flag's stripes, in order, are dark red, orange-brown, very dark grey, grey, white, and very light grey. the bottom left flag's stripes, in order, are dark red, orange-brown, very dark grey, grey, faded sky blue, and light faded sky blue. the bottom right flag's stripes, in order, are dark red, orange-brown, very dark grey, grey, faded red-pink, and dull light red-pink. end id.

banner id: a 1600x200 teal banner with the words ‘please read my dni before interacting. those on my / dni may still use my terms, so do not recoin them.’ in large white text in the center. the text takes up two lines, split at the slash. end id

dni link

[androgyne-homosapiens]

Androgyne is a non-binary gender identity in which one is simultaneously male and female. Subsets include femandrogyne, mascandrogyne, versandrogyne, neutrandrogyne, and demiandrogyne.

[journeytodrawiii]

Gender and Identity 💗

Okay, so... recently I’ve been feeling differently about my gender and I’ve come to the realization that I am not a trans guy anymore. My transmasc identity was never an act or a sense of confusion, because at the time it was what made me feel like me. However, as I just said, my gender has changed. I now identify as a femandrogyne person and use the pronouns he/they/she (On top of this, I would appreciate it if you referred to me using the name Lorelei, thank you.). “Androgyne is a non-binary gender identity in which one is simultaneously male and female. Subsets include femandrogyne, mascandrogyne, versandrogyne, neutrandrogyne, and demiandrogyne. Femandrogyne is a gender identity in which one is androgyne, and feels a greater amount of femininity than masculinity.” -gender wiki. I still feel connected to masculinity but much greater to femininity, I am however neither a man nor a woman and am simply me. Beyond being femandrogyne, I am queer, which for me simply means I like who I like, and don’t like who I don’t like. I, like many others, am still on the journey to my true self and I’ve come to rest at another stop, which my be my last or just another pause before I continue on. Either way this is who I am. Just know that being true to who you are is essential in this life. I love y’all!!

[daybreakthing]

would love some sun related stuff if ya wouldnt mind??

(i relate to the sungender term a lot )

-sun androgyne and sun NB (sunby/sundrogyne) - just like ..a connection to the sun, and/or being sungender (or any sun related gender) playing a role in your androgny/ being a NB??

- a sun omni flag and maybe a matching moon omni?? (Ive just never seen other omni flags before)

-sun sapphic flag redo - maybe more sunflower themed ??

-Sun polyam?? (Preferably with inspo from the more modern infinity heart flag)

-bi/omni fusion flag , and a version fused with androgyne? ( and then a sun bi/omni ofc lol)

-versandrogyne/fluandrogyne fusion flag

- A1 (that a ok signoff?)

we don't make themed flags on this blog btw; & we wanted to ask if you mean bi & omni in reference to gender or orientation ?

[thevoidcircus]

Welcome to the Void

I'm Kurage, your friendly neighbourhood ball of creation. I'll make this quick:

I'm aro, bisexual, versandrogyne, and very tired of everyone's shit.

That being said, there are fictional characters who can get it :)

I don't want politics or arguments in my notes. Discussions and constructive media critique are fine, but I don't want politics or devolution into dick-measuring contests from either side, got it?

I am here to make cringefail text posts, create art, and share my thoughts on games.

I do not want to catch crap for the media I consume or the games I play.

I have my headcanons, you have yours. If my headcanons contradict yours, that's not my problem or your business.

This blog ain't minor-friendly. I'm going to be crass on main. 18+ only, please.

All characters involved in ships or ship art that I post have been checked that they are appropriately aged or otherwise appropriately time-skipped.

If you are universally scum of the earth, I don't want you here.

Fandoms/Fixations:

Making canon-divergent material

BTD6

Stardew Valley

Sims

Ben 10

Pokemon (only the fandom side)

Palworld (don't sue me i'm broke)

Cocoppa Play and Pure Nista

Homestuck and Hiveswap (mostly just my own canon-divergent material. Too many demons in the media created by both WP and SJ)

Vast Error (I need to reread it tbh)

HH/HB (separated art from artist for a LOT of reasons I don't feel comfortable elaborating on)

Harry Potter (separated art from artist.)

Undertale and Deltarune (mostly canon-divergent material. Hey did you know that Undertale's timeline doesn't make sense no matter where you place Frisk and Chara?)

The Elder Scrolls

DragonFable

Durarara

Starbound

Making horror OCs

Trying and failing to dodge creepypasta tropes L M A O

Ib

Angels of Death

Assassination Classroom

Steven Universe (mostly canon-divergent material, the original was aight but it was also really messy)

Land of the Lustrous (mostly canon-divergent material)

A certain franchise of racing games for which I have been trying to restore my love, but was ruined by bad actors within the fandom.

My own sci-fantasy universe

The countless immortal creatures of the void I have hiding in the depths of my OC folder

A bunch of games I'll not mention here but will tactfully address collectively as the homework folder.

Sideblogs:

tvcbloons: Where I'll be either posting my BTD6 content or reblogging it if I've already posted it here on my primary. tvcbloons is a 16+ blog, so there will be mature themes but not so mature that I'd have to use any bars, blurs, ominous glows, mosaics, or neon pink splatters.

[rotatingferret]

I identify as androgyne now, more specifically versandrogyne, which means I am androgyne, but the amount of masculinity and feminity fluctuates and it makes me feel like myself, now I only need to come out and I don't know how, does anyone have any tips?

What the hell is my gender I've identified as a demigirl for almost a month now but I kinda feel like a girl and a boy and non-binary and androgyne is there a name for it please does anyone have any tips

[pinkfruitgender]

versandrogyne james icons for anon

[imoga-pride]

is it realistic/possible that i'm both bigender and versandrogyne? because the "primary" gender is binary male and the second gender is versandrogyne as its own separate gender experienced. i experience both simultaneously in different ways and at the same time. Is that possible or am I just not REALLY bigender

that's perfectly bigender. you could use primusgender for the male part (primusmale/primusboy) and sequigender for versandrogyne (sequiversandrogyne).