#veent

[emzii-hi]

MY OPINION ON THE FOREVER SITUATION

I would like to start to say this hurts me as a fan of forever and that I would honestly want to stay neutral and keep out of this whole thing until its be clarified but will keep tabs on whats going on. I do not speak on behalf of forever this Soley my thoughts and opinions. I do not know the culture of Brazil and i speak only from experience when i make connections. And the whole reason I am righting this is that I want to just get it off my chest. THIS IS A VERY VERY LONG POST!!

First of all i have seen the tweets and have watched the whole stream that forever streamed talking about this. I would also like to say that I speak and can read portugués so I feel like I can confidently form a well informed opinion based on what is being put out there. And i will talk about each part separately and then give my final opinion

THE TWEETS

The tweets are in no other words gross and very concerning and that's honestly all you can say about them. He was very obviously over what we know is the legal age and was talking about/towards minors fan or not is gross. Concerning about every other ableist and sexist tweets again are gross and shows a lack of maturity that he had at that age.

IMFORMATION/PEOPLE ONLINE

The way people especially English speaker from what I can see is actually crazy that people and assume information then spread THEIR opinion as fact towards other people. Whether the information is correct your opinion is not fact. sharing and putting your opinion of the information is okay but don't go around spreading your information as fact because it can be more hurtful then helpful to both parties.

Also this is another language AND culture. I feel like people speaking online about his voice sounding this or the way he phrase this are mainly English/Spanish speaking and even if Spanish is similar we do not know all their tones and cultural cues

Also a big thank you to everyone who is translating the information about everything that is happening you are all doing gods work and me and everyone in the community appreciate you

STREAM

On stream today forever both talked about the drama and the way he is handling it.

LAWYER/LEGAL ISSUES

I see a lot of people complaining and saying he must be guilt if he is lawyering up. Now this has two faces. ONE is that yea okay of he is so innocent why does he have to lawyer up it makes no sense. And to an extent i can agree with as like if you have nothing to hide. Especial if maybe the same victim is not able to get a lawyer.

But on the second side think about this logically. If you were accused of a crime petty or not your first thought is clearing your name. He is lawyering up in a way that is able to clear his name is a legal sense. Why can't and wouldn't he be able to defend himself is he MIGHT of truly not done something.

Another people were hoping that he would at least say sorry about what he did to the victim. But i would like to put it out there that if he is taking the legal route and he is getting a lawyer and defense to help him, if he were to say anything at the moment that made him seem guilty like admitting to the allegations would be used against him. Obviously this is in thoughts that the victim/s are taking any action towards Forever other that just stating it on the internet.

HIS OLD TWEETS

First things that i want to say is that one we do not unless you are Brazil know the culture. I am part Mexican and I can say that you will find a lot of men (more like boys) that joke like this. I can say from experience like that one of my ex and his friends that would joke like this a lot and people in Valorant joke like this ALL OF THE TIME. Is it wrong yes, did it make me feel super uncomfy yes. Point is that people usually joke like this and it was way more common back in the earlier 2010s, even fucking racist jokes where consider super funny until like super crack woke era came. He in the stream was like did I say this yes and I was wrong and I am not the person I was back then. For me I am like okay that's valid. PEOPLE CAN CHANGE. People can grow and mature. A school bully can become a better person. The fanfics we read where the mean person becomes nicer is change. Character development, character growth, maturing, call it what you will it does happen and honestly I am shock that people will point at someone that wasn't always they way they are now go 'OMG YOUR THE DEVIL NOW WHY DID YOU DECIEVE MY EXPECTATIONS'. Again this is not me defending Forever for his past tweets but more of me saying that you cant judge a person sometimes because of their past. This man probably met people that slapped sense and knowledge into him that he was like wtf I was a shit person.

Him deleting his old post is him starting a new and trying to show the person he is now and not the person he was and no longer agrees with. I would do the same if I posted something and just not longer agreed with it cause people do change and learn and grow new opinion whether for better or worse.

HIS POPULARITY

He also talked about how its kind of ironic that this claim/s has come to light right after his popularity has hit an all time high especially after the QSMP. And how every claim/s has first started on Twitter when theirs not actual legal action be taken into consideration by the victims. (from what i can tell) THIS DEOS NOT MEAN FOREVER IS INNOCENT. This just means keep an open mind. If people are able to send raid officers, break into streamers house, dox them online I would not put it past people faking a very gross and traumatic experience that effects actual peoples lives and hurts ACTUAL VICTIMS.

THE PERSON THAT PASSED AWAY

There was this person named Choquel (trigger warning) committed suicide due to a gossip blog spreading around false information. This person was who had a life and family that are now in shambles just because people wanted to spread rumors. I hope that they rest in peace and are enjoying their after life. And I send prayers to their family and hope for the best for them. I honestly don't feel comfortable taking 100% on this mainly cause idk a lot and this is just what ik about this situation but full am sadden that the world lost a person that could of made a change in someone's life but ended up taking their own because of others and their words.

OTHER STREAMER UNFOLLOWING/BANNING FOREVER

I do not know much on this aspect put from what I can see and do know is that a lot of people are unfollowing forever and even people from close circles like: PHIL, & BIRIUM.

I think this has two sides one is the very obvious opinion. They unfollowed because they believe the claims/have actual information that has not been released. And if they do and that's is why they unfollowed him then GOOD FOR THEM. I am glad they are standing in solidarity with the victim.

BUT on the other hand, is just in my opinion is that they just don't want to drag into drama that might effect them as streamer/person just for following the person being accused even if they don't support that person. Then again I do not have the information to be able to fully understand this.

MY FINAL CONCLUSION

I am going to remove myself from the forever community but will keep my eye out for any update. This can go either way, and if the victim is an actual victim and not someone that is just hateful, then I hope you get your Justice and forever gets the punishment and karma that he deserves. If forever truly is innocent then I wish him Goodluck on clearing is name.

I am really sad that this has happened to us as a community especially right now in the new year. I am sorry and give my condolences to any victim in this situation which includes, his wife, the victims that brought this to light, any past victims in the past from his tweets, and his friends.

Overall this situation is a bad situation and if its like what the community believes to be which is true then keep boycotting forever, keep spreading information/translations, and supporting the victims. But please do not send hate to fans in the community who choose to continue to support and enjoy Forever. They are fans and entitled to their opinion and do not deserve any hate towards them.

Again this whole thing is my opinion and thoughts if you have questions or concerns or feel that I missed something please let me know. IF you had or are going through grooming/sa/domestic violence speak to someone please trust me you will find people in life that will treat you and support you in the way you need and want.

Stay safe and warm. Eat and drink water

-EMZII OUT-

[zenoflee]

I let out

It feels

Obviously disgusting,

VIVIDLY BLOOMING

HYSTERIC!

Horribly NICE

THE POLLENS COME OUT,

it feels so DEATHLY LIVING,

I AM WITH THE POLLENS

These roots goes everywhere to little DIRTY FILTHY CRACKS

To beautifully DULL AND GREY sunshine,

The pollens, they smell so..

SO SWEETLY ROTTEN,

THEY TASTE OF HORRIDLY COMFORTING,

DELUSIONALLY UNCOMFORTING,

THEY TASTE OF FLESH, AND OF

BUT I AM NOT PART

I REFUSE

ITS SO AGONIZING TRUTH,

THE LIES WERE SO-

THE SURFACE,

I cant feel my face

[veeevic]

kinda on one of those moods where I feel the need to apologize to everyone I like for wanting to be around them

[fantablast]

aaaaaa I wish I wasn't sick so I could drawwww >-<

[normalcannibalism]

foster care sucks help

[tricksteroftheheart]

the 'severe regret' fic is going to make me twist.

talking about ships in the tags. cw astro x sprout and cosmo x dandy (not spoken about positively.)

[tansyuduri]

Me just sliding into the Merlin fandom in November:

Because my RP server went down for several months and my Autistic mind was like HEY you need dopamine, so you know your favorite show? The one you watch every year? You are obessed with it now. You are welcome!

Then my borderline Aroace mind was like Hey so you just read two Merlin fics with Arthur's return and your two favorite characters who you never shipped were together in them and totally in character! So we have elected them to be your new Emotional Support Romantic Bantering Idiots. You will never watch this show in the same way again. Enjoy the one pairing to go batshit over for the next several years. While watching everyone else multiship!

Then I started a oneshot because I needed more of them and my creative mind was like nope this is gonna be a long fic now and you are going to write a prequal and a sequal. Then other things because you love writing Merthur now.

[johnegbbrt]

veent?? i guess idk:3

ghghfhd. can my grandma stop commenting on my body and calling me fat. plz. plz. pl

im literally underweight what. whats going on in her head to make her say that???

ghghf i hate my dads parents so much!!! im gonna lose it i thinkkk!! at least i dont have to see her till like. christmas.

its not that being called fat is bothering me its just???? i dont want her eyes on my body? idk,,, its like normal behavior for grandmas tho i think even tho none of my other grandmas do it but like im pretty sure grandmas do that a lot?? so idk why it bothers me everytime she does it its like normal behavior righht

[speechlessnaho]

riendo vente conmigo susurra violento el demonio mientras está viendo. vente y déjame tenerte poseerte y desde el alma obternete, gritos oi en La mente, vente conrriendo frecuente conmigo estarás mejor siendo consiente no seas incongruente veente te digo weon marchito si te vienes te calmó acostado en mi pechito. vente vente con la frente en alto si todos ya saben que somos bastardos

[monster-tears7-blog]

No sé que fas hui, muic de ganes per saber-ho, per vore com estàs, si tot va bé o que. Muic per abraçar-te i sentir-te junt a mi un dia com hui, qué feliç era sentint-te junt a mi, en el teu cabet apoyat sobre el meu pit, que facil era tot. Qué facil era que se me calmaren totes les preocupacions, qué bonico era acariciar-te el monyo mentres miravem una peli, qué feliç era. Donaría mil coses per tal de tornar a estar aixina ara mateixa.

No sé si estaràs en amics o tal volta has trobat a una altra persona ja en qui estar aixina. Jo soc completament incapaç de sentir res per una altra persona que no sigues tu ara mateixa. Com trobe a faltar el teu calor, el teu olor, el teu monyo entre les meues mans, la teua respiració, els teus besos, els teus abraços, com mos trobe a faltar ❤️‍🩹

Demà me’n vaig a Madrid a vore la expo de Tim Burton que tanta ilu me fea vore, ojalà puguera manar-te totes les fotos que vaig a fer-me i pugueres somniure veent lo feliç que me va a fer. Estic especialment mal. Molt molt trencada per dins, en un nuc a la gola gegant i la meua panxa cada vegada ficant-se pijor 😪

[thetoyboxs]

This is why I hate fandoms

There are reasons why for so long my channel didn't include a single bit of Fandoms

It's because I hate them.

As great as it was to be part of them, I never truly reached out in them.

When I joined the DanPlan fandom, it was a change. I was so happy. I met people and talked and my channel actually got views! And people were saying they actually enjoyed my content!

I was so happy, then I wasn't

When the New Year started, it was great.

I was at the top of my game, I was estatic to go back to school at get through all those obsticals in front of me.

Then Stephen left DanPlan

And it revealed to me so much.

When Stephen uploaded that video, I watched it with tears, but I understood and was proud of him for being able to make such a huge change.

To move on.

I knew Daniel had done bad, but I wanted to wait. Because I trust Daniel, I believe he will go out there and apologize.

Because I feel in someway, Daniel and I are very alike.

Its why he's my favourate, and why it hurt me to see all those comments from the new DanPlan vid.

People went haywire.

And I could understand that, I could understand their rage, I felt that rage to.

Because it felt like betryal. From someone I looked up to and trusted, to someone I felt was a lot similar to me.

But it hurt as well, for people not to give Daniel a chance. For people not to let Daniel apologize and try to make it right.

Hell, it hasn't even been a day and there are comments showing up on MY VIDEOS, Screaming at me how much they hate Daniel, that they want me to take these disrespectful videos down.

My hardwork got caught in the crossfire.

Because people couldn't let others make mistakes.

Because people are impatient, and don't want to wait for others to apologize.

Hell, you guys didn't even give HOSUH a chance to talk.

Screaming in the comments won't change the fact Stephen is gone.

Shouting at Daniel won't fix his mistakes.

Yelling at Me won't make it any better.

I'm tired, honestly.

I haven't been taking care of my health, as much as I claim to drink and eat, I haven't.

I probablly only drink a cup a day, and have at least a meal but that would be it. Unless I was told or forced, I would only have dinner and some water after being asked.

I'm sorry but I can't push myself into another EddsWorld, I can't push myself into another fandom that will choke me.

I can't do this again

So I won't.

I'm still going to be here, I'll still support DanPlan, and I'll still wait for Daniel and Hosuh side of the Story.

But I won't let myself be pulled into another betryal.

I stand with Stephen, But I will wait for Daniel.

I won't let someone not be given the chance to apologize and work on themselves, and I won't let someone be held back in a toxic past.

My heart stays with Hosuh and the animators, who were also caught in the crossfire.

They do so much for us and I pray that they'll be okay, because they are also such a big part of DanPlan, even if their not on the screen all the time.

Thats all I have to say. I hope you can understand what I tried to convey, feelings are hard to explain. But please guys, just wait.

[somelazyassartist]

In cr yingg do hard in drool ing and by head feellls likke is been stabded it hurts do bad an I can barley breaht

[ajarofhoney]

I cant... Breeak my promi2ee2

I cant....

[zeroescape]

me: realising i have no motivation to complete a drawing for rantaros birthday: [incomprehensible screaming]

[dobythealpaca]

I stand by future edd but I also stand by larry

#Futureeddsweep #larrysweep

ayo future edd fr the third sacred option,,,,, he so cool,,,, AND YEASSS LAR LAR SQUAD WE CAN DO IT!!!!!

[spade-club]

I told my therapist I was really struggling and told her that I couldnt even tell her everything and I think she knows its close to crisis level but I told her there was a good chance it was just a one off allergic reaction induced spiral (which I believe.) I told her though because if by next week this has happened again or gotten worse I think I'd consider getting serious help. Its so weird to consider getting this much help while still having high highs this week but I think its about my safety, yk? I do genuinely think I'll be okay, but I was really worried I wouldnt be, so I have started my backup plan of telling my therapist if it continues.

I think the hardest part about getting better is I feel more brave, and being brave is a death sentence.