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Pedophilia in Morocco: the shocking revelations of an ex-lover of Bergé and Saint-Laurent Scandal. Fabrice Thomas claims, in a nauseating book, to have witnessed an illegal act in the couple's villa in Marrakech. A scene which did not shock the designer at the time.
In his book “Saint Laurent and me: an intimate story” (Hugo Document), published on October 12, Fabrice Thomas, who was the lover of the famous fashion designer Yves Saint-Laurent and his pygmalion Pierre Bergé, reveals the dark side of infernal couple, “two icons, two exceptional men, but two sexually ill men” , as he describes them in an interview with the Canadian channel TVA Nouvelles , broadcast on October 27. “Eight years, from 1984 to 1992, my life with Yves Saint Laurent and Pierre Bergé resembled a whirlwind,” writes Fabrice Thomas, who was the driver of the boss of the fashion house, then of the designer, with with whom he had a three-year affair. Above all, a descent into hell, punctuated by violent and extreme sexual practices. “I had been Pierre's sexual object and I had become Yves' dominating lover. I had gone from one to the other, from one side to the other of the whip, but I was still in between,” he sums up. “His libidinal power was impressive” “Pierre, (…), thanks to the free-thinking of his anarchist, educated and rebellious parents, had always experienced his homosexuality as one form of sexuality among others, without guilt or hindrance”, explains the author, hired by the fashion group after stopping by their room at the Plaza Athénée. But gradually, his “sadistic passion” takes over. “His libidinal power was impressive. For my part, I knew its destructive side well. It deeply affected Yves ,” emphasizes Fabrice Thomas. “From there, I joined his cohort of lovers subjected to training sessions which then became the norm between us, until 1989 when I put an end to it.” The author, on a leash and on all fours, thus recounts a scene, where Bergé, known as “Monsieur”, slapped him, whipped him bloody and attached adjustable clamps to his nipples, before urinating on him, in insulting him, drugging him with “poppers” and watching porn films with his assistant . When he is not driving the founder of the YSL house during the day, Fabrice Thomas escorts the drugged couturier in his crazy outfits at night. “Yves was a sexual prey. This is what he liked to be, his sexual preferences leading him to immoderate submission,” he says. “He operated in the same way with Pierre during their life together. He would slip out the window of his room to go and have fun on the quays and in the parks where he would 'sew buttons' on a few Moroccans or Algerians who asked for nothing better than to receive a few francs for this service for which they would have paid for it themselves.” The “young men” of the Majorelle Garden Fabrice Thomas also accompanies Saint-Laurent to his villa in Marrakech, Morocco, where he and Bergé bought the Majorelle Gardens in 1985. Andy Warhol, the Rolling Stones and Catherine Deneuve will parade there. The Oasis villa is “ a sexual resort, one more, for him and for Pierre Bergé,” he writes. Regarding sex tourism, popular at the time among many artists, the author specifies that “Yves and Pierre were not tourists, they had developed ongoing, even friendly, relationships with some of their young lovers. .”
One scene, described in the book, even relates an act of pedophilia. Yves Saint-Laurent has gotten into the habit of welcoming “young men” who present themselves at the garden gate. “The bamboo grove is the Tuileries of Marrakech,” he jokes. A gay meeting place. “I saw men pass there, foreigners and locals, of all ages. Until the day I saw the unthinkable ,” says Fabrice Thomas, seized by anger and rage. “The steward kneeling before a prepubescent teenager standing before him, naked as a worm. Holding his buttocks with both palms, he eagerly sucked the child who was letting himself do so while looking up, holding a note in his hand.” “Is this kind of thing tolerated?” he asked the designer that same evening. “Oh… In the palm grove, there’s a lot more going on. The authorities prefer to act as if they do not know. And yet, everyone knows, obviously.” Frightened, Fabrice Thomas insists: “But there, it’s happening at home! It’s one of your employees who’s doing that with a kid…” Saint-Laurent’s response: “Not at my place, no. The Majorelle Garden is public.” In his book Letters to Yves (Gallimard), Pierre Bergé also remembered: “How kind and beautiful they were, these Moroccan boys! They all played football, had muscular bodies. We had relationships with them that smacked of neither money nor vulgarity.” Pierre Bergé: “I am not a pedophile” Until now, no witness has been able to confirm the rumor. In May 2011, Luc Ferry accused, without naming him, a former French minister of having engaged in pedophilia in Morocco. Two years later, an investigation report, revealed by VSD in March, mentioned a French priest who had stayed in Morocco, who reported cases of “prostitution of minors at the Villa Majorelle”. The clergyman told the magazine: “In the medina, parents of young victims confided in me.”
At the time, Bergé categorically denied: “I am not a pedophile. I have never organized orgies in my house in Marrakech. Now prove the opposite instead of talking nonsense.” The case has since been closed. Bergé and Saint-Laurent were never prosecuted. In November 2016, the businessman and companion of Yves Saint Laurent who died in 2008, added in the program “Stupéfiant!”, broadcast on France 2: “ Morals were freer than today, especially in Morocco. At the time, sexuality was more unbridled, we paid less attention to it.” An assassination attempt In his book, Fabrice Thomas makes other confidences about Saint-Laurent. “I remembered that he had told me, strangely quite pleased with himself, that he had tried to assassinate Pierre Bergé with a ten-kilo bronze,” he says. He also notes that the “mascot of the so-called caviar left” who became president of Sidaction, “did not protect himself at all” like Saint-Laurent. Today, Fabrice Thomas is married and lives in Quebec. Pierre Bergé died on September 8, at the age of 86. The former shareholder of Le Monde and godfather of the left, who supported presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron, is now resting in the Majorelle Gardens, alongside his companion Yves Saint-Laurent.
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Why don't you talk about the serious accusations of pedophilia targeting Pierre Bergé?
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Good morning,
To our knowledge, there is strictly speaking no accusation of pedophilia against Pierre Bergé. The businessman, who died last September, has been cited twice in recent years in cases of pedophilia but indirectly: as the owner of a villa in Marrakech where acts of pedophilia allegedly took place (not being him imputed).
Current values devoted an article last week to the work of Fabrice Thomas, “Saint Laurent and me: an intimate story” , published on October 12. Fabrice Thomas, who presents himself as the former lover of Yves Saint-Laurent and Pierre Bergé, describes the couple's sexual intimacy. During the promotional campaign for his book, the author notably stated in an interview on Canadian television “Dominique Strauss-Kahn or Harvey Weinstein, believe me, next to Pierre Bergé they are altar boys.” The author describes sadomasochistic sexual games, affirms that Pierre Bergé had "sex slaves" but does not accuse him of any act of pedophilia. If there is talk of pedophilia in the book (and in the article in Valeurs nationaux), this does not concern the former shareholder of Le Monde. Fabrice Thomas relates a scene of pedophilia involving the steward of the Jardin Majorelle villa, owned by Yves Saint Laurent and Pierre Bergé in Marrakech. Fabrice Thomas writes a dialogue during which he would have been moved by the facts unfolding before his eyes: "But here, it's happening at your house! It's one of your employees who is doing this with a kid…" Saint-Laurent's response: “Not at my place, no. The Majorelle Garden is public.” The name of Pierre Bergé is not mentioned in this extract.
Pierre Bergé was cited in VSD in 2013, again indirectly, and still as the owner of the villa in Marrakech. On May 30, 2011, Luc Ferry claimed on the Canal + set that a former minister was “stuck in Marrakech in an orgy with little boys” and that this scandal would have been hushed up. Comments which led to the opening of two investigations. One, in Morocco, the other, in France, entrusted by the Paris prosecutor's office to the juvenile brigade. Libération reported on the progress of the latter in 2011 ). The investigation was dismissed in November 2012. A few months later, in March 2013, VSD, based on the investigation file, and despite the dismissal of the investigation, published the comments of a priest from the south of France claiming to have collected between 2003 and 2007 testimonies attesting to acts of "prostitution of minors at the Villa Majorelle, property of Yves Saint Laurent and Pierre Bergé, where Jack Lang was regularly invited" . VSD specifies that the "witness "did not give any name" . This is the only passage in the VSD article where the name of Pierre Bergé is mentioned.
In 2014, the conspiracy site Panamza took up the testimony of the priest cited by VSD, in an article heavy with innuendo, and received a complaint for defamation. Pierre Bergé also attacks the sites FDesouche or Riposte laïque for having relayed the Panamza article. The defamation trial was to be held in the fall of 2017. It was not held due to the death of Pierre Bergé, which occurred on September 8, 2017.
A little less than a year earlier, in November 2016, Pierre Bergé addressed these questions in an interview with Léa Salamé, filmed in his Moroccan villa. He had refuted the rumors of pedophilia concerning him, while recognizing, in the name of "free sexuality", having had relations with "Moroccan boys" , at a time when "morals were freer" .
Pierre Bergé: "There was a particular form of sensuality, I can confirm it. Morals were freer than today. Sexuality was more unbridled and we paid less attention to it. But we must not exaggerate, when in tweets They say that I had orgies with Jack Lang, with little boys, I wouldn't even have wanted to because I don't like little boys. That wasn't the story.
Léa Salamé: You write in Lettres à Yves (published by Gallimard, editor's note) : "how nice and handsome these Moroccan boys were. They played football, they had muscular bodies. We had a relationship with them that neither smelled nor "money nor vulgarity".
Pierre Bergé: "It's true, I knew a lot of them. They became, not friends, but very pleasant relationships. We drank mint tea, they invited us to lunch with their family. This n It wasn't prostitution, there was probably prostitution, but I don't have a great taste for sex tourism.
Léa Salamé: Okay, so it was just a free way of experiencing your sexuality?
Pierre Bergé: “yes, a way of experiencing your sexuality”
There are therefore no accusations directly targeting Pierre Bergé. And the accusations relating to events that took place in his house were not the subject of direct testimony from the victims, nor of complaints.
It should also be remembered that an indirect accusation, or a rumor, is not enough to create information. And also that in matters of press law, the fact of relaying a defamatory statement is sufficient to characterize defamation. A newspaper, to relay accusations, must provide additional investigative elements, contradiction, demonstrate balanced treatment, etc. Libération, to date, has no evidence justifying the publication of an investigation on the subject.
Since the Weinstein affair, Libération has launched several investigations into sexual harassment. A first was published about the BNP. A second is awaiting publication, and concerns world politics.
Sincerely
C.Mt
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PARIS — Gabriel Matzneff was a celebrated writer with a coterie of powerful friends, including fashion designer Yves St. Laurent and former President François Mitterrand, who once described Matzneff as a “mix of Dorian Gray and Dracula.” That the French writer had a pedophile past was a secret to nobody. He wrote about his penchant for sex with children for years. He discussed it openly on television. He was reported to the police for sexual abuse decades ago but was never investigated, even as he challenged bourgeois taboos and collected a stipend from the Ministry of Culture. “To sleep with a child, it’s a holy experience, a baptismal event, a sacred adventure,” he wrote in his 1974 book “Les Moins de Seize Ans” (“The Under Sixteens”). He went further in his 1985 diaries — “Un Galop d’Enfer” (“A Hellish Gallop”) — writing of his visits to the Philippines: “Sometimes, I’ll have as many as four boys, from eight to 14 years old, in my bed at the same time.”
In her book “Le Consentement” (“Consent”), Vanessa Springora alleges that she had a destructive underage sexual relationship with French writer Gabriel Matzneff.
In “Le Consentement” (“Consent”), Vanessa Springora, now 47, claims she was groomed by Matzneff when she was a girl. She recounts a life of confusion and conflicted feelings that perhaps she had consented to the relationship and must be blamed. She writes of psychological devastation and of having no understanding that she was a victim until she was an adult. That Matzneff wrote about their relationship in his books, long after it had ended, served as a recurring reminder of what Springora came to see for what it was: abuse. “As if his passing through my life hadn’t been devastating enough,” Springora writes, “he had to continue documenting, falsifying, recording and forever engraving his misdeeds.” The statute of limitations has run out for Matzneff to be charged with sexually abusing Springora. But the Paris public prosecutor has opened an investigation into his sexual past and asked for potential victims and witnesses to come forward. In a separate case, brought by a victims network organization, a Paris court has set a trial date in September on allegations that Matzneff’s work is an “apology for pedophilia.” The 83-year-old Matzneff could not be reached for comment. A French TV company recently tracked him down on the Italian coast. He described his relationship with the underage Springora as a love affair. “I don’t want to read her book,” he told BFMTV. “We were happy together. I have marvelous memories. We lived a lasting and marvelous love story.” “When you publish something it is a public confession,” he said. “That’s what writers do, that’s why writers are the first to be shot because they leave written traces. They write, they confess their sins. At that time nobody thought of the law. We did things that weren’t allowed … nobody spoke of a crime at that time.” The story has reverberated beyond legal circles to the heart of France’s intellectual class. Springora heads a prestigious publishing house and travels in many of the same circles as Matzneff.
Mehana Mouhou, an attorney involved in a lawsuit against French writer Gabriel Matzneff, speaks to the media outside court in Paris on Feb. 12, 2020.
“The French justice system has prostrated itself before a writer,” said Mehana Mouhou, a lawyer involved in the suit against the author. “Matzneff never hid what he did. He recounted the relations he had with young children whose lives have been shattered and scarred. Ministers, people in the world of culture, politics, the media, let it go and and now we have to ask why they let it go and seek accomplices. Matzneff is just the tip of an iceberg.” The essence of Matzneff’s defense is that his sexual relations with children happened in a liberal, laissez-faire era before the #MeToo movement and other societal shifts that have changed sexual attitudes. He references a moment when famous writers including Michel Foucault, Jean-Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir and respected newspapers, notably Libération and Le Monde, defended the idea that sex with minors was a form of liberation for both parties. “There were all these arguments [in the ’70s and ’80s] that the child was a person in their own right, that they were fully formed at age 6 and that the family was a prison from which the child had to be liberated,” said Pierre Verdrager, a French sociologist and expert in the history of pedophilia. “These people argued that sexual relations with an adult were a form of emancipation, and that parents who complained that their child had been abused were only interested in getting money in damages.” Matzneff benefited from the cover of the culture’s libertine sentiments. During a 1970s television show, he was questioned about his desire for schoolgirls by the Canadian writer Denise Bombardier, who said his actions disgusted her. The next day the French writer Jacques Lanzmann suggested someone should have slapped Bombardier for her rudeness. France had no age of “consent” until 2018. Since World War II, the age where sexual relations can be considered legal — known as the age of “sexual majority” — has always been 15. However, Verdrager said the question of whether children under that age can consent to sexual relations with an adult is a gray area. “In the 1980s there was a very strong movement for the lowering of the sexual majority to 13 or 14 and then progressively getting rid of it altogether,” said Verdrager. “The people who supported this cited Greek mythology and historical traditions to support their ideas.” French identity is entwined with reverence for culture. Literature, cinema and theater are seen as beacons of enlightenment in a philistine world. Government policy for more than half a century supported and defended this idea, giving rise to the expression “l’exception culturelle française”: the French cultural exception. Books are published because they are considered artistically worthy, not profitable. Sales of Matzneff’s books could be counted more in the hundreds than in the tens of thousands. But artists, writers, directors, actors like him are regarded with a certain awe. France and Switzerland have refused to extradite the Polish-French film director Roman Polanski, wanted in the U.S. after pleading guilty to unlawful sex with a 13-year-old girl in 1978. French writers and artists argue that Polanski’s work transcends what many outside the intelligentsia regard as moral failings. This aura feeds into the French idea of “seduction,” which has less to do with sex and is more a mix of allure, promise and charm. In 2011, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the man who would have been France’s next president, was arrested in New York and charged with sexual assault and attempted rape of a hotel maid — charges later dismissed though Strauss-Kahn settled a civil suit for around $1.5 million. Public figures rose to his defense, describing the then chief of the International Monetary Fund as an inveterate seducer of women and a “brilliant economist.” One French magazine editor said Strauss-Kahn was guilty of nothing more than “un troussage de domestique,” the idea that the master can have his way with a servant girl.
Actress Catherine Deneuve is among 100 French women denouncing the “puritanical wave” of the #MeToo movement.
These sentiments were shaken in 2018 after revelations against Harvey Weinstein, which propelled a #MeToo movement in France. French feminists hailed a long overdue rejection of the idea that seduction à la Strauss-Kahn was acceptable. But not everyone agreed. One hundred French women, including actress Catherine Deneuve and libertine writer Catherine Millet, signed an open letter defending men’s “freedom to bother women,” which they said was “indispensable to sexual freedom.” The letter was seen as a repudiation of Anglo-Saxon morality and puritanism. But the Matzneff Affair, as it is now known, is set to recast the liberties extended to writers. Asked how Matzneff was able to operate openly as a pedophile, Bernard Pivot, a well-known French literary critic and journalist who has interviewed the writer many times, said: “In the 1970s and 1980s, literature came before morality; today, morality comes before literature. Morally, that’s progress. We’re all more or less the intellectual and moral products of a country and, above all, an era.” Latifa Bennari, the founder and president of the Blue Angel Assn., a support network for victims of pedophilia and for those with pedophilic inclinations, has brought a lawsuit against Matzneff for “glorifying pedophilia.” She says some men who were struggling to control their sexual urges were given a green light to abuse minors by Matzneff’s work. “He wasn’t fantasizing, he actually did these things and he wrote about them,” said Bennari. “I don’t understand how anyone could have closed their eyes to this. They say it was a different era, but pedophilia was never acceptable.” The lawsuit was filed in a Paris court this month and will have full hearing in September. A criminal investigation is also underway. Police have raided the offices of Matzneff’s publisher, Gallimard, for unexpurgated manuscripts. But it could take years before a criminal case comes to trial. “My aim is to bring Matzneff to justice for the first time in his life,” said Mouhou, the lawyer representing Blue Angel Assn. in its lawsuit. “The crime of promoting pedophilia is five years’ imprisonment, and that is what I seek. “What Matzneff has done is to incite pedophiles to act. That is a crime. It’s a scandal for French society and the French justice system. The public prosecutor could have brought a case against him, but for a long time they did nothing. He published books vaunting pedophilia as if it was art and literature when in fact it was a crime.”
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