#up possessiveness or hes actually killing people. so s8 dean was so boring
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THANK YOU OLI I don't get the season 8 hype. No Cas, Sam and Dean have the same conflict they've been having the entire show with no new angles like why????
YEAH LITERALLY. inital conflict is literally dean being angry at sam for trying to move on and heal which is just so intensely unlikeable and for some reason i was shocked by it and it made me genuinely dislike him. to me dean is at his most awful in s8..... like he's not. he's definitely not. gadreel possession in s9 and like most of s9/10 with the mark is much worse than anything he does in s8 and killing amy in s7 was sooo awful too. but dean is just so intensely a dick in s8 and i was so angry with him and not even in a fun way. like in s9/10 he is AWFUL but i enjoyed the drama. i didnt even enjoy the interpersonal drama in s8. which is when you know something is wrong
then again. im probably too harsh on it and am basing it off memories of sitting through the first half because i LOVE the trials and sacrifice and the great escapist so so much. and i love kevin <3 he's s8 right. but. to me s8 will always be the worst season. maybe i just hate what it brings to the shows canon. sam leaving dean for a girl and a dog (which is NOT EVEN WHAT HAPPENED... and if it WAS it wouldve been justified.... id support sam even if i thought he abandoned dean unprovoked idc.....) is constantly brought back like the worst of his sins even as late as like. s11. SHUT UP. first half of s8 is just upsetting for sam reasons and not in a fun way
#i was fully a dean hater for a while back in s8#i still love and support dean haters i just could never manage being one myself. god bless.#self recognition through the other (derogatory) but i would never pull his s8 shit at least#i just. HATE the whole. omg sam is in the wrong for trying to move on even though thats what he wanted dean to do while he was gone#and he thought its what dean would want because surely he would want sam to be happy (no he wanted sam to destroy his life looking for him)#and deans going to punish him for the evil crime of Wanting His Own Life and Getting Free and the narrative is also going to condemn him fo#this and its going to be treated like yet ANOTHER thing he needs to repent for. season four all over again except season four was really#fucking GOOD it was just emotionally devastating. s8 isnt even GOOD. the episodes were fucking boring half the time#tbf i also didnt like s6 very much because i hated the campbells being brought back so much i found it devastatingly boring#and apparently s6 and s8 are some of the most popular seasons. so. shrug#i preferred s10 a hell of a lot to both of them.. am i crazy..... s10 wasnt good but like. it was entertaining and i liked watching dean ge#worse and worse and it had rowena and claire and sure its thematically a mess but it was enjoyable to me. plus i liked the finale a lot#spn#s8#objectively i do actually think some of s8 is much better than anything else but emphasis on SOME#i find dean entirely uninteresting also when hes just Sooo sooooooooooo angry all the time unless its coming out in more interesting fucked#up possessiveness or hes actually killing people. so s8 dean was so boring#anyway. s8 haters of the world unite#asks#oliver talks
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SPN Questions Game~
Stole this from @secretsandgreeneyes cause it’s Sunday and I’m BORED.
1. When did you start watching Supernatural?
So the funny thing is, is that I watched Bloody Mary (in 2005 I was 12) when it was playing on TV but at the time I thought it was too scary (cause I was a big baby, even though there is nothing wrong with being that; it just wasn’t me) so I never went back to it. It wasn’t until the start of s8 (October 2012) that I actually watched live. I distinctly remember going out during a snow storm to go buy the s7 DVD so i’m guessing November 2011 is when I decided to finally start.
2. Who is your favorite in TFW?
Sam and Dean cause they are 2 halves of a whole idiot and i love them so much
3. Who is your least favorite in TFW?
CAS LIKE DAMN. I used to really enjoy his character when he was funny and not getting the shit beat out of him and captured and being useless. I honestly blame the writers so much for my now displeasure with Castiel.
4. Tag your top 5 Supernatural blogs.
@boykingsqueen i’m just tagging lauren cause i LOVE HER
5. Who is your favorite character (not including TFW)?
oh fuckkkkkkkkk....... it’s honestly a tie between Donna, Jody, Bobby (not AU!Bobby) and Charlie (again not AU!Charlie).
6. Who is your favorite woman in Supernatural?
FUCK. Okay okay okay imma pick Charlie just cause I am her and she is me
7. John or Mary?
Is neither an option? Honestly though..... John. While he was aloof and never really there for the boys, he was there more for them than Mary is now. Again I blame the writers
8. What were your first opinions of Sam, Dean, Cas, and Jack?
Sam: what is THAT HAIR? OH MY GOD HE’S FROM HOUSE OF WAX
Dean: Wait is he short, or is the other guy just tall?
Cas: I don’t like your species... when are you gonna go and fuck dean? (cause from tumblr i legit thought cas and dean were a couple. #sogladtheyrenot)
Jack: please don’t make him evil, please don’t make him evil, please don’t make him evil I love him so much already
9. What’s your favorite season?
holy crap these questions are hard. I have to go with s2 just cause a majority of my favourite episodes come from there.
10. What’s your least favorite season?
It’s definitely a tie between 4 and 9. I HATED all the mistrust between the brothers but I loved Powers!Sam. S9 I don’t even remember most of it so that’s saying something right there LOL
11. Opinions on Destiel?
Used to be into it mildly, not anymore. The destihellers ruined that for me and I also have eyes??? Like Dean and Cas don’t have a thing???? if you ship it, it’s no problem. ship away just don’t get pissed off at me cause i don’t agree
12. Do you believe Supernatural queerbaits?
I don’t even know what that is so no? *goes and looks it up* the answer is still no. They make it pretty clear in the show who is gay and who is not and if people can’t see that, that’s on them, but don’t force your opinions on me. Aint nothin wrong for shippin your ships! Again, just don’t get pissed at me cause I don’t agree with them.
13. Seasons 1-7 or 8-14?
okay..... i have to go early spn just cause that’s what the majority of the fanfiction I read is from. HOWEVER, I adored the end of s8 and s11 so...
14. Favorite villain (plot wise)?
I honestly really loved Amara and YED
15. Do you think they should end the Lucifer plot line?
YES HOLY FUCK YES GET WHAT’S HIS NAME OUT OF HERE AND LET SAM BE THE ONE TO KILL THE SON OF A BITCH
16. Who do you think has gone through more trauma (Sam, Dean, or Cas)?
It’s a close tie between Sam and Dean, but I gotta go with Sam. He spent more time in hell, had been possessed by Meg and then Gadreel, Hallucifer nearly offed him, yeah... Sam.
17. What’s your favorite Supernatural episode?
this is just a cruel question. I can narrow it down to 4.....Yellow Fever (s4), Sacrifice (s8) Baby and Red Meat (s11)
18. Do you like case episodes?
I do! It’s what I think makes SPN, SPN, however when they’re stupid ones I catch my self saying WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING.
19. Who do you relate most to in TFW?
Again, Sam and Dean. I relate to Dean cause I am an older sibling and I am very protective of my younger brother. I also get angry very easy which Dean does too but thats just cause he bottles everything up (aka me). I relate to Sam on an interest level. I love school, I love to read, I love the little things in life.
20. Why do you like Supernatural?
Sam and Dean’s relationship. I project my self onto them and honestly I feel like they are very much apart of me. When this show ends I’m gonna be a wreck.
21. If you could bring back one character and kill off another who would they be?
100% kill Lucifer/Nick and never let him come back. I would bring back Crowley (cause he was hilarious), John (cause the dynamic would be interesting to see. I GUESS WE’LL GET TO SEE THIS FOR THE 300TH) and my Bobby.
I only tagged Lauren, but if anyone is bored like me, please feel free to do this as well! have a great night everyone! Imma go watch the Eclipse!
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Winchester Bro-hugs By Season (In-depth study, or I am really bored)
Season 1 - No hugs, but a lot of nice but unnecessary touching.
Season 2- Still a lot of nice but unnecessary touching, and we are finally introduced to the magic of the Winchester bro-hug in the season finale “All Hell Breaks Loose Pts 1 and 2. Dean gives a heart shattering hug to Sam as he dies in his arms. Sobbing into his lifeless little brother’s shoulder. The first hit of this addictive drug. Then the painfully happy, grateful “Oh Thank God” hug when Sam is alive again. Now we know the Winchesters can hug when they’re happy and sad...the hugs are interchangeable! Now we’re hooked!
Season 3 - Quite a bronantic season, but we get a good dose of touching and bro-cuddles in Mystery Spot when Sam watches Dean die over and over, and it ends in Sam’s adorable, heart felt, ear squshing, “please dont ever leave me again” hug to Dean at the end. However, the worst (best) hug is when Sam hugs Dean and sobs( baby angel tears) on to Dean’s dead body in No Rest For The Wicked. OH the heart break and a whole summer to deal with it!
Season 4 - Starts the season off with Dean returning from Hell, and Sam having been going dark and badass (for good reason) and then sliding seamlessly into “little brother mode” as soon as he realizes Dean is really back. We get a near repeat of the ear squshing “Dont ever leave me again” neck hug, and we have had our fix from that long hiatus wait. Though S4 proved to be a tough season for the boys, there was less affectionate touching, more fist throwing, and no more hugging :(
Season 5 - More brother drama, less affectionate touching, and unless you throw in the flashback sequence in Swan Song, when Sam remembers the hug he got at the end of Season 2. There are no hugs at all. I loved this season, but I was really disappointed in the lack of affection, especially with what the boys were up against this season, and the show’s speculation that it would likely be the finale season. Season 6: Right away we have a bro hug when Dean sees Sam is alive in episode 1, but we also see Sam isn’t “feeling” it, and it’s our first sign something is “wrong” with him. We (or maybe just I) felt cheated, like given some bad dope in hopes to cover up the fact its been 2 WHOLE YEARS between bro-hugs! No dice bro! I want the real thing! Fortunately when Sam gets his soul back, he greets Dean with such a sweet, tight hug, its like a getting a shot of the good stuff again, The stuff that got me hooked! However, there after, the boys lacked in affectionate touching. Season 7- A hugless season again, which shouldn’t have been the case since Sam went insane twice, this should have been hugs out the wazoo! Though there was some wonderful affectionate touches in 7x2 Hello Cruel World, but still, no hugs :( Season 8 - Just when I thought maybe the boys has outgrown hugs, or maybe the producers thought the viewers did (HOW DARE THEY!) we are given a record 4 yes FOUR bro-hugs in one season! The beautiful reuniting scene when Sam and Dean are just smiles and white teeth and dimples, squeeze each other with all the strength in them! And we probably all love this hug even more because we see how long it actually lasted on the gag reel for the season :D this hug makes me happy! But then the boys fight a lot and its bad, but its good at the same time because they are fighting simply because each felt like they were no longer first in the other’s life. However, the fact they both gave up those who were preoccupying them for each other, proved they are still #1. Taxi Driver, gave us hug #2 when Sam came back from Hell after rescuing Bobby. Dean worried he may have lost him again and squeezed Sam till it hurt. And then in the VERY NEXT EPISODE Dean hugs Sam for no other reason than to let him know he loves him (my heart grows 10 sizes and busts out of my chest!) but the final hug of S8 was heartbreaking. I cant get into it without going full meta on the scene itself but the hug in the church at the end of Sacrifice? Oh Lord... Sam in full little brother mode,crying, shaking, sick, dirty, sweaty and bleeding just melting into Dean’s arms, and Dean squeezing him like nothing mattered in the whole wide world except his brother. I. Just.Can.Not. Season 9- Starts out with Sam close to death. There is a lot of nice touching and affection in 9.1 but no hugs. probably because there’s an Angel possessing Sam now and that would be awkward. But now we’re jonesing because the previous season gave us more than any season has before!! Wheres the bro- love!!! I must give honorable mention to the hug Sam gave Cas in “First Born” it was heart warming indeed and gave us new insight to Cas and Sam’s relationship :) but we dont get a bro-hug till the the season finale when Dean dies in Sam’s arms again. Still heart wrenching, and nearly mirroring the end scene of Season 4. Poor Sammy and his angel tears!! Season 10 - Really really low on bromance. Most was verbal, but even then it lacked compared to every other season, but we did get a bro hug when Dean killed Cain and Sam hugs him in physical, and emotional support. Holding him up so he didnt hit the floor, and supporting him with “you did it dean, you did it!” (note this is when Jared was accidentally stabbed in the leg as well) but the fact that Dean was nearly about to kill Sam at the end overshadows that hug so much that I almost always forget that it’s there, or the nice hair stroking in The Wurther Project. Season 11- Was so heavily bromantic in so many respects, that I enjoyed just about everything in that season! The brothers are friends again, and trusting each other. They still bickered some, but thats what they do, even in real life. But the “Baby” episode refreshed my addiction to the Winchester love story so much! It was the first time in ages in which they looked like they really enjoy each others company, and even with all hell breaking loose, they both looked so happy! And can I say falling asleep beside each other in the Impala did things to me! We get a semi hug at the end of that episode when Dean finds Sam again, but the season was so much about how much they still love each other than I nearly forgot how much I need the hugs! The dinner at Jody’s was awesome on so many levels! Sam slumping into the library like a 9 yr old in Just My Imagination was adorable, the whole theme of Safe House and the magical bro-cuddle at the end ALMOST did me in till Red Meat. Red Meat every precious last minute of it!! Dont Call Me Shurley gave us some wonderful unnecessary bro touching, and a little hair tugging and leg stroking... but ummmm thats for another time ;) the rest of the end episodes were...weird..and OOC to say the least, but then we finally get a beautiful bro hug in the cemetery. The boys cant even look at each other here... look everywhere but each other. Cant believe we are doing this AGAIN! But that hug still meant everything it should have. Season 12- WHERE ARE THE FREAKIN BRO HUGS!!!!!! We are HOOKED now and Im literally getting hives from the lack there of! The boys have gotten nice hugs from other people, but they really need to hug each other! They don’t often share the same trauma at the same time, but they did in prison, and how could they not have hugged when Dean found Sam all beaten, tied up and bloody, and Sam finding out Dean is alive? There is probably good opportunity for hugs and affection in Regarding Dean, and I hope I can report on some! So there it is, a hug break down. If I missed any, let me know and I will make adjustments. Thank you for entertaining my thoughts :D
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