#until dawn adaptation

[lunalivvy]

i’m so excited for the until dawn adaptation but idgaf what happens as long as emily and sam survive ok 😭

(and that we get the “understand the palm of my hand bitch” scene)

[ashleyy-brown]

I’m so torn at wanting an until dawn adaption so badly and knowing that it will never be exactly what i want it to be and therefore will be disappointed

[tinynightmarewoman]

New Until Dawn looks like utter arse, but I'm not surprised since they've been ignoring the source material from the beginning.

Seriously folks there was warning signs from almost the very start, don't be surprised that we've now been in a hit and run at 100mph

It could have been a banger movie but nnnnoooooo

[southpawscrewball]

Ive had this legitimate conspiracy theory since I heard the rumor back in 2019 that the Child's Play remake was supposed to be an original plot before being adapted into a remake that there are people out there wanting to make original horror movies but some executive keeps going "well, it probably won't sell unless it's under the name of an existing franchise" and slapping a new name on them

Because what do you mean the Until Dawn movie is going to have none of the same characters, plot elements, or even setting

What do you mean it's about an entirely different cast with an entirely new plot

I could understand if they just wanted to make a movie within the Dark Pictures Anthology and realized that the name might turn people away because of the poor game reception, but why pretend it was ever going to be Until Dawn

[oreolesbian]

so they just… wrote a horror movie. that has literally nothing to do with the video game, until dawn. but then they called it until dawn. because unfortunately all that sells in hollywood is recognizable branding. 🙃

[beabfleab]

Just saw that new until dawn trailer…yikes.

Really cool concept similar to happy death day, but instead of just making that film maybe set in the same universe if they wanted, they named it after until dawn when it’s not even similar. Don’t know what they were thinking, would’ve been so much better marketed as its own thing rather than an adaptation that only kept the name 😕

[euphorial-docx]

HATE that they added a time loop plot to the until dawn movie. the whole point of the game was that actions had permanent consequences. also not having any of the characters from the game is kinda crazy too.

[snapghoul]

How snaps looks when trying to explain to people that the new Until Dawn movie is going to be another half assed adaptation because they’re taking “creative liberties” which means they’re not following the source material at all whatsoever and just putting little things players might recognize but still being a mediocre horror movie with a popular game title taped on it, and people only see it as “well the games about surviving till dawn so what the issue? It’s not being changed.” as a survivor of Warcraft, Assassin’s Creed, RE Welcome to Raccoon City (the Paul Anderson one’s are iffy but I’ll allow them) & Boarderlands and as a person with a film degree and enjoys video games. I am talking to brick walls.

(But no seriously, you can’t make a video game movie, based off of a widely popular game and change its entire narrative and remove what makes the game interesting. The time loop removed the butterfly effect which is the ground mechanic for UD. I swear if I ever get to be in that room one day discussing a game film, I’m gonna be the worst person they’ve ever met because ain’t no way am I letting my fellow gamers down like that.)

[245inthemorning]

beth washington did not die and get cannibalized by her own sister for the until dawn film adaptation to look this bad

[jennrypan]

So..the Until Dawn movie..isn't even until dawn.

Instead of taking the original plot (THE WENDIGOS IN THE LOUGE AND THE PRANK) they're just..making it a time loop of horror genres 😶

Cool..cool..don't fucking say it's abt the game if it's fucking not maybe. Yall fucks had one(1) job. Stop doing extra shit. You really couldn't do a plot similar to the game?? The decisions aren't that important if it isn't the PLAYERS decision, that's the whole point of a choose your own adventure game. God--- this game is everything to me and I was soo excited but it's not even the game it's just a fucking new thing entirely.

[ququoquaw]

ok well why make a movie named after the game and make it about something totally different

[treasuredplanet]

I went through every available emotion upon seeing the Until Dawn movie trailer, thinking it was an adaptation of the game, realizing it wasn't, thinking it was again, and finally understanding that it's a totally different story set in the same universe

[taylorvaughnsaidso]

letssssssss gooooooooo!

(oh dont go find that article if you're spoiler free lol they spill the whole thing)

[alfairy]

Honestly I wish that instead of an Until Dawn movie adaptation we were getting an adaptation of this

[yusuke-of-valla]

I strongly feel most game plots that people bring up as being "basically already a movie" would actually be shitty movies

[boleynqueenes]

Being as you are someone who writes about Anne Boleyn, I must ask you, which are your favorite portrayals of Anne Boleyn? I mean fiction (novels, film, tv) but also non-fiction. And, do you feel your fav portrayals have influenced you in the way you write Anne and her story? Your least favorite ones, do they have an influence too? Which ones are they? Thanks

If there's one with zero merit and/or minimal entertainment value I won't include it on the list, I'll say I'll ** = my absolute favourites and * = my compelling in some aspects, but tread with caution, and those sort of in between I'll leave alone.

Or rather, let's put it another way...* is worth a library rental or free Kindle borrow, whichever you have available, and ** is worth an actual purchase. Those without *...eh, I'll leave it to you.

The Challenge of Anne Boleyn, Hester Chapman*

Adultery, Heresy, and Desire, Amy Licence*

Raven's Widow, Adrienne Dillard**

Jane Boleyn, Julia Fox**

Among the Wolves, Lauren Mackay*

Queens of Henry VIII, David Starkey*

The Story of the Death of Anne Boleyn, Translation, Edition, and Essays by Joann DellaNeva**

The Lady Elizabeth, Alison Weir*

Renaissance Prince, Lisa Hilton*

Hunting the Falcon, John Guy & Julia Fox**

The Life & Death of Anne Boleyn, Eric Ives**

Tudors in Love, Sarah Gristwood

Tudor England: A History, Lucy Wooding**

Children of Henry VIII, John Guy*

Henry VIII by Lucy Wooding**

The Other Boleyn Girl, Philippa Gregory*

The Lady in the Tower, Alison Weir*

The Lady Anne (Book 2 of 5 of Above All Others series) by Gemma Lawrence**

Judge the Best (Book 2 of 5 of Above All Others series) by Gemma Lawrence**

Threads by Nell Gavin*

In the Shadow of Lions, Ginger Garrett*

Tarnish by Katherine Longshore*

Brazen by Katherine Longshore

Anne & Henry by Dawn Ius*

Wife after Wife by Olivia Hayfield*

The King's Mind by Christopher Rae**

The Concubine by Christopher Rae**

VIII by HM Castor

Queenbreaker by Catherine McCarran

The Tudors (2007-)**

The Lovers Who Changed History (2014)**

Anne Boleyn miniseries (2021)**

Blood, Sex & Royalty (2022)**

I Am Henry: A Compelling Novel of Anne Boleyn and Henry VIII (2023)

And, do you feel your fav portrayals have influenced you in the way you write Anne and her story? Your least favorite ones, do they have an influence too? Which ones are they? Thanks

Pieces from everything influence me, Christopher Rae's and Gemma Lawrence's novels, for example, both had some of the best and credible portrayals of Henry Norris I've ever read, both in credible unrequited love (tying into, Anne's wariness thereof) that was forged into a weapon against him and for why he became such a favourite of HVIII's in the first place (would've included Jeff Lavender's thesis of Norris also, had you asked for beyond fiction and non-fiction books). The best parts of all of the above have inspired me to craft AB as a character at turns, sympathetic and unsympathetic: proud, courageous, intelligent, zealous, prudent (more in the 16c sense than 21c), fierce, jealous, sensitive, vindictive, unyielding, talented, compassionate, bold, spirited, pious, impassioned, loyal, loving ...somebody who inspired either complete devotion or implacable hatred, with very little in between, and felt comparable extremes towards her own family, friends, and adversaries.

From my least favourite...I try to remember that every choice she made was morally defensible and/or justifiable, from her own perspective, regardless of whether or not it actually was (and of course, they weren't always). I try to remember also that fear and insecurity can best explain some of her less palatable choices, as enumerated here. Basically, just that she was human and flawed, but also that there were many people personally (and often, religiously) invested in magnifying her flaws and reducing, or even outright omitting, her strengths. Obviously, that misogyny can also be a factor in some of her portrayals, is a salient remembrance to keep in mind, as well.