#unova remake

[doubleddenden]

Unovacope back at it again with more speculation.

In the probable Unova revisit, I'm wondering just how likely we are to finally, FINALLY, after 15 years, see the Original Dragon TM- aka what Kyurem supposedly was before its body split into Reshiram, Zekrom, and the husk that became Kyurem.

I have a few options

They do nothing

This is the timeline where they either skip Unova after Indigo Disk had a lot of Unovaisms, or give us BDSP style "ports" basically. They do nothing new, and they potentially even skip over BW2.

They give us exactly the Original Dragon

Through something akin to BW3, a BW0, possibly a Legends Unova situation, they give us the exact original dragon. Whether an advanced form of Kyurem or a totally new Pokémon only possible through fusion, this is the one most Unova fans want.

And what I fear might be the least likely to happen.

I've been waiting for the Original Dragon since I was about 15. 15 years later, I've seen Game Freak and The Pokémon Company bend over backwards to try and avoid giving fans obvious or expected answers to a bunch of mysteries in the Pokémon world. Sometimes satisfying, sometimes unsatisfactory imo.

Given this, I think it is extremely unlikely they will deliver the Original Dragon as we would hope: a singular entity that is a perfect balance of Truth and Ideal.

Main reasoning would be that, unless it's a Legends Unova title, they'll want to sell 2 versions. That, and they "don't like to be predictable."

Which brings me to my next point

They do something different.

This is broad, but I have ideas as to how this could work.

In the event of an ORAS style revisit to tie it to gen 9

Truth is, we don't know what TPC will do next. Leakers say TPC hated what ILCA did with BDSP, but there's also rumor of a "faithful" remake in the works.

However if in the event it's not a totally "faithful" remake and something new, then we could see gen 9 isms blending into gen 5. Gen 5 is already pretty paradoxical by nature, so new Paradox Pokémon wouldn't be off the table in the same way ORAS included new megas and primal forms.

In the case of "the original dragon," I could see White getting the "original dragon" but in the form of a Past Paradox form, appearing dinosaur esque and possibly taking more inspiration from Reshiram. Likewise, Black could get a Future Paradox Original Dragon in the form of a cybernetic dragon that takes more cues from Zekrom.

The "original dragon" being such a Paradox that it's truth and ideals change how it appears as time passes. Or... whatever. Essentially a creative cop out to sell more than 1 version and also tie it into gen 9.

In the event of trying to avoid the Original Dragon all together

It could be entirely possible that, rather than trying to tie the dragons back together, we get something akin to Palkia and Dialga's Origin forms for Reshiram and Zekrom. Rather instead of these being their original forms, they are more "exemplary" of the aspects they embody. Basically Primal and Origin forms, but instead of reverting, it advances to an Undeniable Truth or Unshakeable Ideals.

In which Reshiram and Zekrom embody even more dangerous forms that only arise when their hero refuses anything but the ABSOLUTE truth, or dangerously pursues their RECKLESS ideals.

In other words, the forms taken that apparently DESTROYED Unova long ago, once upon a time.

What do I want?

I'll be honest, I want to know about the Original Dragon. I'll accept anything that's respectful to the fans that have waited patiently for a long, long time, but I also know that controversy sells more.

Defining the Original Dragon might even close the single most important mystery of Unova, and A. Game Freak thinks they're clever when they leave mysteries unanswered (usually not) and B. It would make another visit in the far, far future harder to justify.

[zaptap]

btw i still think theyre going to do unova remakes this year. for a second there i wavered a bit since i realized they could do something with johto first (hgss is older than gen v after all) but i think after indigo disk bringing unova back into the spotlight, it makes more sense to keep that going right into the next game (and there's no pattern yet for second-round remakes, since we've only gotten lgpe. could be total coincidence they did kanto again before sinnoh)

as for whether the remake will even be any good? idk lol. maybe they'll get ilca to do the bare minimum again. or maybe they'll decide not to after how much of a mess bdsp was (i feel like theyd rather not have to come up with special rules for pokemon home transfers again)

and to me legends arceus was one half of the sinnoh remake (the part where they add a lot of new stuff and bring newer pokemon to the region, which bdsp lacked) so they could do another legends game. they could continue the trend of focusing on a mythical and maybe do genesect or victini, or maybe base it on that merged dragon legendary we never really saw? idk

really hope though that they just... do a normal remake again. recreate the world and story of the original game, yes, but add to it. let us have pokemon that didn't exist when the originals came out, add new pokemon forms, etc. i really miss the old remakes being in the same style as the brand new games of the generation and able to communicate with each other, instead of this thing theyve been doing since lgpe where everything is in a weird bubble by itself

at the same time though i liked legends arceus and it'd be nice to see something like that again. my theory has been that it came about because game freak maybe got a little too ambitious working on a more traditional sinnoh remake (trying to work something like the wild area into sinnoh, maybe settling on making five of the areas more open, and ultimately deciding it was too different--or had some ideas to make it even more different--and spinning it off into something new while hiring ilca to cover the expectation for a "normal" remake since they'd be abandoning that)

and now, after having already done the split-model remake with bdsp and legends arceus, would they do the same thing again? i think with scarlet and violet's open world, having it be similarish to those games probably won't happen (also they absolutely wouldn't have terastalization and tera raids--if blueberry academy is in unova and has a special tera orb to enable all of that, that means it isn't in the rest of the region). but they could still have it be more linear while being stylistically similar to sv, as opposed to what bdsp did

ANYWAY how about this actually: have the type of remake we got with frlg/hgss/oras (where there's plenty of new stuff and you can get pokemon that didn't exist in the originals) and then throw in some kind of Dream World inspired side story area with legends arceus mechanics. that would be really cool

.......also there's the whole question of like. what the fuck are they gonna do about bw2. those games went above and beyond the usual third version deal. different story, different starting area and map progression, different protagonists. they can't simply tack on some alternate clothing options and throw in the kyurem/kami/etc forms and call it good. that would be unacceptable

would they put both games in one? would they sell the second as dlc? would the paired games, instead of black remake and white remake, be bw remake and bw2 remake? (would that even work?) or would they really just ignore bw2 as much as possible? honestly with the way game freak's been these days i feel like that might be most likely unfortunately

for the past few years ive been wanting to replay gen v, but with these remakes coming... well, in the past i've replayed rs before oras and played yellow before lgpe, and that was fine, but when i replayed platinum before bdsp came out it just felt like i was playing the same game again except worse. like i think i'd rather have played bdsp and then platinum. so i'll wait until after the remakes before doing that i think (or at least until we have an idea of what we're getting) (not that i think i'll have time to get around to playing those before then anyway)

[mintjeru]

"but there is nothing more beautiful and terrifying than innocence."

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[etherfall]

N in the Octopath Traveler artstyle

[parasolladyansy]

rainy camp in galar

Sometimes I log into my save on Sword just to camp out with my rainy babies 8u8 I wish all modern Pokémon games had camping - they tried to do something similar with picnics in Scarlet, but it’s just not as fun for me. 🏕️🌧️

if you’re curious about the team, we have Rain (Vaporeon) & Skye (Altaria), of course - then there’s Candyfloss (Whimsicott), Cirrus (Cinccino), Tadpole (Quagsire), & Darjeeling (Antique Polteageist). 🩵

PS: I was chatting with someone about the eventual Unova remakes (though I actually think getting another sequel to make a Black / White trilogy would be very cool, too!), & daydreamed what if they decided to put in something like camping! Obviously, I’d be JAZZED✨ I feel like pizza would be a great camp food, too. It’s a staple food of NY, & it’s very customizable - you can even put Pinap berries on it if you want lol 🍕🍍

[itsmegughi]

unova vibes

[corethetrueidiot]

soooo..... pokemon day, huh..-

[bulbagarden]

Hiii, do you guys think there will be an august present? Worlds starts soon and surely they would do it beforehand right?

your guess is as good as ours, trainer!! though don't they usually tend to have a presents after a general nintendo direct in the summertime? (・・?

no matter what, we'd both like to hear everyone's thoughts on what they think might happen! legends z-a news for sure, but could we see another exciting announcement...? -lisia

[shima-draws]

I think with the new DLC drop we can pretty much confirm there’s gonna be a Gen 5 remake 👀

-The story takes place at Blueberry Academy, which is in Unova

-Most if not all of the Gen 5 Pokemon are available to catch now with the expanded Pokedex, which makes it an easy transfer back and forth from HOME to the remakes

-Also there’s a specific separate event to catch Meloetta, who is a Gen 5 mythical 🤔

-This probably has to do more with the fact that Blueberry Academy is in Unova, but a lot of the main battle themes in The Indigo Disk have some sort of Gen 5 motif in their soundtracks somewhere

-Castelia City is available as a playable soundtrack in the League Club room!!

-ALSO you can change the club room’s theme to a BW themed one (the monochrome theme). There’s tons of references around the room of Unova locations, like White Forest, Black City, and the ferris wheel in Nimbasa!

-The secret boss of Blueberry Academy (SPOILERS) is Cyrano, who gives you a SHINY BLITZLE when you beat him

If we don’t get a Gen 5 remake within the next year I will be VERY shocked bc they are NOT being subtle about it. I for one have been waiting for this for years, they’d better not fuck it up I s2g

[sunjoystarblazeit]

Saw a theory about Drayton and Kieran fitting the Truth and Ideals archetype of the legendary heroes of Unova, and it got me longing for a Legends Kyurem type game.

And you know how Drayton has an unusual resistance to the cold? Maybe it's in his lineage.

I also think about how Drayden’s design takes elements from Kyurem. And how his clan always held the key to joining the dragons.

[microbihon]

Pokemon Day 2024! We are anxiously waiting hahahah.... hah....

[bunabi]

also: I finished everything 🧍🏾‍♀️ this is how I've spent my breaks

[ede917]

[sotiredmostnights]

what i really love about pokemon BW/BW2 is just how dynamic everything is. the idle animations of the pokemon, the animated cut-ins of the gym leaders, the music, the sound design, the low-health music shift. the triple and rotation battles. the double battles with wild pokemon. the different viewpoints for bridges and larger cities...even the overall speed of the battles makes the game feel intense and exciting

[animerunner]

Also don’t know who needs to hear this. But just ust because they went with Kalos now. Doesn’t mean we won’t get Unova at some point

[fierykitten2]

After looking at the latest article on PokéBeach, I don’t think I’m ready to surf twitter this morning because I know it’ll just be “hey look, Game Freak’s repeatedly promoting Unova meaning we’re getting Unova remakes this gen” please stop and think for a second. Mainly because with the exception of FRLG (why would you do a gen 1 remake in gen 2? Now we really know where your biases are) and LGPE (same as before plus Kanto being Kanto and getting extra special treatment) all remakes have been in the generation that is double the number of the original gen (what this means for Black and White 2 idk. I guess I’ve just assumed they’re getting skipped) so when we get to Pokémon Day 2025 and no Unova remakes have been announced, Unova was not forgotten, it’s almost certainly coming in gen 10. Another reason is that we’ve just been to Unova with all the pandering for Unova fans in Blueberry Academy (I’m still annoyed I spent this whole generation thinking this gen’s revisit to Kalos would be in SV but hey, I guess then they would have had to bring Megas back a game early and I’m not letting your Limited Usability In Competitive Situations overshadow my Pretty Crystals For Everyone (with Tera raids even being how they introduced my top two favourite Pokémon and damn Wake and Leaves are pretty especially when Terastalised. And I changed their Tera types to Stellar but that’s still pretty so I don’t care and now they each get their own little Terapagos whenever they Terastalise so I’m sure they’re happy too. I’ve also recently (re)discovered how pretty their modern-day counterparts Suicune and Virizion are too))

Hopefully we get something Gen 2 related next gen but I think that might just be me obsessing so much over the Proto Beasts and Neo Swords (and now at least Suicune and Virizion but the other Legendary Beasts and Swords of Justice (ignoring Keldeo) are also up there, alongside Ho-Oh, Lugia, Reshiram and Zekrom) that I now want Johto and Unova to get special treatment at the same time (anyone remember that person on twitter who made concepts for games where those two regions were both visited because everyone went into Pokémon Day thinking we were getting at least one of the two regions to get a new game even though we just visited a school in Unova and I’m sure Kitakami is near Johto?)