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Not me yelling at my laptop during a fictional presidential debate
#tww#tww season 7#i have been fulling yelling at arnie vinnick. is he fictional? yes. not gonan stop tho#arnie vinnick#matt santos#this is such a good episode though like i am obsessed with the dramaturgy of filming this live
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#still one of my favorite parallels they ever had#it only took them 7 seasons but#haha#the west wing#tww#twwedit#twwedits#josh x donna#donna x josh#josh lyman#donna moss#bradley whitford#janel moloney#love#1x21#7x19
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rewatching noĂ«l and i just đ”âđ«đ”âđ«đ”âđ«đ”âđ«
#first time rewatching it and UGH TELEVISION#i am watching tww with my parents because theyâve never seen it before#and like i know i only started watching it for the first time a couple of months ago#BUT it is just so good đ€§đ€§đ€§#i actually havenât even finished my first watch yet but iâm at the end of season 7 only have three episodes#iâve been putting off finishing it for the past few days#if i never finish it ⊠it simply never ends đ#gonna go back to 7.10 (or 7.13 đ«Ł) and start from there#THREE EPISODES IS TOO QUICK IâM NOT READY#the west wing
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every time I decide to watch something new of aaron sorkin's I discover previously unimaginable heights of hatred for that man!! my most complex and toxic relationship is with him...how can I lovehate his creations so much
#just started studio 60 and LOL LMFAO#feeling more and more justified that my fave seasons of tww are 6 and 7#and 1. so gotta give him that one#aaron sorkin
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Introduction
This is a fan analysis about the results of 24 polls posted on Tumblr by the user @zeldatourney. Huge thanks to them to have organized this tourney.
(Keep in mind my first language isn't English, so I might make some minor mistakes)
This is a long post with multiple graphs, so I'm putting a "Read more" button here!
For each game, the question asked was "How high does [game] rank?" with 7 answers possible to choose:
S tier (One of the greatest)
A tier (A favorite)
B tier (I like it)
C tier (Meh)
D tier (I'd rather play something else)
F tier (AWFUL)
I haven't played this game
The poll started on the 2nd of December 2024 and ended the 9th of December 2024.
Disclaimer: This is not a representation of the Zelda community as a whole, but a result of people who saw and voted for the polls between those previously quoted dates.
For the rest of this post, I will simplify each game's name by its abbreviations. For example, "A Link To The Past" will be named "ALTTP". The polls didn't specify if it contains the original games or both the original games and the remakes. They will be named as such:
[TLOZ] The Legend of Zelda
[AOL] Adventure of Link
[ALTTP] A Link to the Past
[LA] Link's Awakening (DX) (+ the unnamed 2019 remake)
[OOT] Ocarina of Time (3D)
[MM] Majora's Mask (3D)
[OOS] Oracle of Seasons
[OOA] Oracle of Ages
[FS] Four Swords (Anniversary Edition)
[TWW] The Wind Waker (HD)
[FSA] Four Swords Adventures
[TMC] The Minish Cap
[TP] Twilight Princess (HD)
[PH] Phantom Hourglass
[ST] Spirit Tracks
[SS] Skyward Sword (HD)
[ALBW] A Link Between Worlds
[HW] Hyrule Warriors (Legend / Definitive Edition)
[TFH] Tri Force Heroes
[BOTW] Breath of the Wild
[COH] Cadence of Hyrule
[AOC] Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity
[TOTK] Tears of the Kingdom
[EOW] Echoes of Wisdom
Collected data
Each poll being independent from each other, the number of votes varies from one poll to another.
For each games, I added the percentage (as picked up from the HTML for a better precision). The result is either 99.999, 100 or 100.001, so I sometimes cheated to add or remove 0.001 somewhere. Tumblr doesn't give you access to the exact numbers of vote per option.
So before ranking the games, I have to show you first what games are the most played. Adding all answers and doing:
Played (%) = 100 - "I haven't played this game" (%)
I'll use colours to differentiate 2D games (in terms of gameplay) to 3D games. I'll also highlight spin-off games and multiplayer games.
Here are the games played by more than 75% of players:
We can already see a huge pattern. All the 3D games are there. And the only 2D Zelda game to be played by 75% of players is ALBW. BOTW and OOT are the most played games of the sample, as those were huge turning points and both cultural and commercial success.
We can also notice the difference of 5% between the least played 3D game (MM) and the most played 2D game (ALBW).
Let's continue to look at the other played games:
EOW is most likely low as it's the most recent game, at this time, but also because it's not a 3D game. And the hype train was low compared to TOTK. (3 months of anticipation compared to 4 years)
And finally, the multiplayer games are the least played games, excluding COH. Also worth noting that all the spin-off games cited can also be played with another player, but it wasn't the main focus of the communication. COH being a musical tactical rogue-lite only appealed to a specific part of Zelda fans.
If these polls contained the CD-i Zelda games, Link's Crossbow Training and Tingle games, the score would probably be under COH, but we never know!
I'll keep these colours as labels, to recognize them better in the next images.
Alright. Time to share the ranking. Here is the global result, sorted by release date in North America:
It's kind of a lot to see! Overall, the games are pretty liked. So first, let's take a look at the disliked games:
Please note that the X-axis was zoomed, so we can see the result better.
We can already notice that AOL makes a huge contrast. As this game is considered as the black sheep of the franchise because of how different it is, its reputation mostly came from the difficulty of that game.
Almost a factor of 0.5 divides the first disliked game to the second. TFH the second disliked and the original TLOZ follows.
ALBW is the least disliked, with under 1%, counting D tier and F tier.
But notice the F-tier (red) line. It varies a lot, so let's take a look at the most hated games:
Yep, TOTK is third, this time. As I don't personally think it's awful, it definitively disappointed many by being too close to BOTW and having a lot of issues BOTW didn't have.
Nobody voted "F tier" for ALTTP nor OOT. Same for OOS but keep in mind this game was the least voted one too!
Alright, enough for the hate! Let's look at the most appreciated Zelda games.
Yep, the majority of Zelda fans like 22.5 out of 24 of the games! (TFH being exactly 50, I half-counted it!)
TWW is being almost unanimously appreciated, with almost 97%, and the second one to get this score is TMC, a 2D game, with more than 96%!
You can notice some gaps, like between ST and COH, and then between the Oracle games and TOTK.
Now let's look at the most loved games:
5 3D games are in the top 5, except for SS and TOTK. TMC is very close to beat BOTW and remains the most loved 2D Zelda game. Notice how SS and TOTK make a huge gap between the game before and the game after, like voters use them as references. The two Hyrule Warriors games are, in a funny way, between the Oracle ones.
Let's add a step forward and look at the S tier only:
Nothing changes for the top 9 games. However, EOW seems more nuanced and is less considered as best than TOTK.
Final results
And finally, let's rank them using the Majority Judgment:
The Majority Judgment was created to propose a more democratic way to vote. Each candidate has multiple mentions, and you (the elector) must attribute one mention to each candidate. Since this poll uses this exact method of vote, I decided to rank them all using the Majority Judgment. To count using the Majority Judgment, you must focus on the 50% axis, and look at the category that crosses it (more than 50%). That gives you the tier, and the best tier wins.
When two or more candidates get the same tier, there are multiple ways to rank:
The first way is to put a line at the middle and see which line has the higher percentage. (Less precise but more simple)
The second way is to divide it into multiple tiers by doing the first method again and again until each candidates has a unique tier. (More precise but less simple)
But since I didn't want to compare B++++ to B+++-, I used the first method. It's my democracy and I do whatever I want!
Just keep in mind that depending on the way to count these games may be swapped:
ALTTP and LA
OOA and PH
AOC and HW
SO, for the data. Top 5 is TWW, MM, TP, OOT and BOTW. To be honest, I imagined MM to be a more nuanced game, or at least more controversial, since it has a unique concept.
The A tier only contains 2D games, except SS. TMC, ST and ALBW are the favourite 2D games. ALTTP and LA are always very close. The last one of the tier is EOW.
Only mainline games are in the S and A tier.
The first game of the B tier is a spin-off game, followed by TOTK.
TFH was one vote away from being in the B tier. And no surprise, AOL is the last one.
To sum up, according to the participants who voted for these polls:
S tier
đ„ The Wind Waker
đ„ Majora's Mask
đ„ Twilight Princess
â Ocarina of Time
â Breath of the Wild
A+ tier
The Minish Cap
Spirit Tracks
A- tier
A Link Between Worlds
Skyward Sword
A Link to the Past
Link's Awakening
Echoes of Wisdom
B+ tier
Cadence of Hyrule
Tears of the Kingdom
Oracle of Seasons
Oracle of Ages
Phantom Hourglass
B- tier
Age of Calamity
Hyrule Warriors
Four Swords Adventures
Four Swords
The Legend of Zelda
C+ tier
Tri Force Heroes
C- tier
Adventure of Link
Thank you for reading! ~
#the legend of zelda#analysis#the wind waker#wind waker#majora's mask#twilight princess#ocarina of time#breath of the wild#the minish cap#minish cap#spirit tracks#a link between worlds#skyward sword#a link to the past#link's awakening#echoes of wisdom#cadence of hyrule#crypt of the necrodancer#hyrule warriors#tears of the kingdom#oracle of ages#oracle of seasons#phantom hourglass#age of calamity#four swords adventures#four swords#tloz#tri force heroes#adventure of link#zelda 2
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TWW fanfic: The Don't List
Josh/Donna, 9800 words, Rated T. Post s07e19: Transition. One airplane flight and one long conversation that was a long time coming, as Josh and Donna figure out what it is they want from each other.
So many thank yous and my deepest appreciation to @jessbakescakes and @jezunya for beta-reading this for me, your suggestions were the finishing touches this story needed for me to really be happy with it. And a big thank you to @bartletslesbians for cheering me on, and to my sweetheart Jack for reading this entire thing even though he's never seen a single episode of The West Wing.
Also available on AO3 under the same title and username.
The Don't List
Be still and listen to me. I donât know what this is. And you donât either, which is perfectly fine and understandable. Whatever the build up, itâs all happened amid absurdly heightened emotional circumstances ïżœïżœïżœ the election, Leoâs death â thereâs been no moment to so much as take a breath, much less figure any of this out. And now this roller coasterâs plunging into the transition, with its time pressure demands, and then the Inauguration, and itâs hit-the-ground-running, and the first hundred days, and before you know it, the midterms and the new Congress, and then weâre running again, and four years becomes eight, and weâve never had The Talk. And you can lose that look of panic in your eyes, weâre not going to have it now, we donât ever have to have it. But thereâs a window. Iâd say four weeks. If we canât get it together in that time to figure out what we want from each other, then clearly itâs not worth the trouble.
âThe West Wing, season 7 episode 19: Transition
Josh waits until the captain has turned off the fasten seat belt sign before launching into his well-crafted opening line. Heâs not nervous, exactly, but this seems like a cruising altitude, no-seat-belts-necessary kind of conversation. Itâs an excruciating wait, but finally the garbled announcement from the cockpit ends, the little seat belt icon overhead goes ding! and Josh turns to look at Donna, who is at least pretending to be absorbed in the paperback spy thriller she bought in the airport.
âSo I hear thereâs a window,â he says, in that sort of conversational volume heâs honed over thousands of hours of plane flights, loud enough for Donna to hear above the ambient noise of the plane but not so loud as to invite everyone around them into the conversation.
She glances up at him out of the corner of her eye, her attention still primarily on the novel in her hands. âThe windowâs all yours, Josh,â she says easily, gaze sliding back to the book. âIâd rather have the aisle seat, becauseâ you know.â
Because her leg still bothers her sometimes, as much as she tries to keep that fact hidden from everyone else. Which he did actually know, which is why he picked seats on the left side of the plane when he booked the tickets and why he took the window seat when he boarded, so that Donna would be able to stretch her right leg out into the aisle whenever she needed. He knew that, he actively thought about it, and he did the kind and caring thing for her, just because it was the kind and caring thing to do, and for half a moment he wants credit for that.
âNo, I know, thatâs why Iâ nevermind,â Josh says, quickly pulling himself away from that line of thinking. This no-seat-belts-necessary conversation isnât about scoring little points with Donna, and he definitely doesnât want to think about the injury sheâs still recovering from, or that lonely flight to Germany when heâd been nearly out of his mind with worry about her. Wrenching his thoughts away from those particular memories, he shakes his head. âNo, I meant theâ you know, the time window.â
His delivery is all off, now, not at all how heâd imagined during his quick packing and frantic dash to the airport, when the words he wanted to say to her wouldnât stop circling his mind. He was going to be smooth and romantic about this, and itâs not off to a great start.
But somehow he seems to have caught Donnaâs attention with his clarification, at least, and she turns to look at him more fully, resting the paperback in her lap with one finger trapped between the pages to mark her place. âThe time window,â she repeats. It isnât a question, but sheâs looking at him like she expects him to keep talking, so he does.
âYeah, the four week window. Or, three weeks, five days, and,â he glances at his watch, âI donât know, nine hours. Or whatever, itâs gonna be hard to keep track with the time zone change.â
âAnd you want to have that talk now?â she asks with gentle disbelief.
Josh shrugs, the motion somewhat muffled by the airplane seat. âI donât want it hanging over us all week.â
He watches as she glances away, down at the paperback in her hands, then out at the narrow aisle just beyond her seat. He doesnât think sheâs contemplating ways to escape this conversation â Are you really going to try to convince me that Iâm the one who finds this all awkward and hard to navigate? sheâd said, and of course she was right, Donna is always right â but one of the benefits of doing this on the plane is that neither of them can walk away. There are no meetings to get to, no phone calls to interrupt them, nothing that needs read other than the mass-market novel in her hands.
âJosh, we donât have to talk about it now,â she says, sad and soft under the steel determination she tries to clad her words in. âWe donât have to talk about it at all this week. We can just enjoy Hawaii and not worry about any of it. We donât have to talk about it next week, either, or the week after. We donât ever have to talk about it, if you donât want to.â
âI do want to, though,â he says sincerely, smiling at her and taking her left hand, the hand that isnât currently acting as a bookmark, and lacing their fingers together. It might be a no-seat-belts-necessary conversation, but he thinks it might also be a holding-hands kind of conversation. At least, he hopes it is. âThatâs not why I was panicking when you brought it up the other day.â
âReally?â Donna asks in a sarcastic deadpan. But her hand is still in his, and Josh decides to take that as a good sign.
âYes, really,â he says, grinning wider at her.
âI definitely detected panic.â
âI didnât say I wasnât panicking. Just not about that.â
âWhat, then?â
There was one particular thought that had stormed in to occupy his mind as soon as he understood what she was getting at with her four week window speech. One thought that wound him up beyond even his usual levels of stress, that kept him awake at night and distracted during the day, despite his best efforts. One thought that was so overwhelming, so life-altering, that he couldnât hope to tackle it head-on, not even in the privacy of his own mind.
âThe size of the question is too big, is the thing,â he says, managing not to stumble over his words this time, and thatâs slightly better, closer to how he imagined this going. âAnd I donât want to get it wrong.â
âItâs not an SAT question, Josh. There isnât a magical right answer.â
âI know that. But still, you have to admit, itâs a pretty big question: what we want from each other.â
âIt is,â she agrees hesitantly. She starts to move, pauses, then seems to think better of it and follows through with the action of stowing her paperback in the seatback pocket in front of her, no longer bookmarked. Another good sign, he hopes.
âSo I figured,â Josh says once Donna settles back in her seat and turns her gaze to him again, âthat maybe Iâve got to come at this from the other side. Figure out what I donât want. Cut the question down to size a bit.â Heâs very consciously not calling it a problem. Itâs a big question, and the answer carries a lot of consequences regardless of how this shakes out, but it is absolutely not a problem.
âLike what?â Donna asks, seeming genuinely curious.
âLike how this morning, you said you canât work for me again, if thereâs something happening between us. So thatâs an easy one: I donât want to be your boss again, not ever.â
âThen what was the Deputy Press Secretary offer?â
âThat wasââ He cuts himself off with a laugh, because it was stupid is what it was, and he knew it at the time. âIt was the best I could do off the top of my head. It was desperate, if Iâm being honest. I just didnât want you running off to accept a six-figure offer from some thinktank or NGO before I could find the right fit for you in the new administration.â
âI accepted Helenâs offer,â Donna says in a rush, as though itâs a secret sheâs been keeping from him for months, rather than a possibility she already told him about not twelve hours earlier. âFirst Ladyâs Chief of Staff.â
âDonna, thatâs great!â he says, throwing all of his enthusiasm into it, making sure it shows on his face and in his voice. âWeâre gonna be Chiefs of Staff together!â
âAnd youâre okay with that?â she asks, and it hits him that sheâs genuinely worried about it, that she didnât call him earlier in the day to tell him sheâd accepted the job because she was worried he wouldnât take it well.
âMore than okay,â he assures her, squeezing her hand. âYouâre going to be great at it.â
âThanks,â she says, and itâs still more hesitant than heâd like. Donna has seemed so confident lately, ever since Lou shoved them into a room together with a demand to figure things out, really. Confident about the work she does and her place on the campaign, confident about winning the election, confident about this thing between them. He kissed her first, sure, but after that Donna was the one setting the tone and the pace for their relationship. Sheâs not the one who finds this all awkward and hard to navigate, she told him so herself.
But Josh starts to wonder, with that little word hanging in the air between them, just how confident Donna actually feels about where their relationship is going. And if, just maybe, sheâs been projecting confidence and nonchalance as a shield, something to hide her hurt behind in case he somehow manages to get the answer to the big question wrong.
He canât get it wrong. He wonât.
âYouâre going to be great,â he murmurs again, running his thumb over her knuckles. âWeâll have to talk policy goals, once weâre back at work. Get the West Wing and the East Wing working in coordination, right from the start. We can go to the Hill and bully Senators together,â he says with a grin, and watches in relief as Donna smiles back at him, wide and genuine and not nearly as fragile as before.
âThat could be fun,â she agrees, and he can hear the smile in her voice, too.
âBut,â he sighs theatrically, âthat does mean that if the President-Elect ever comes to his senses and fires me, I wonât be able to come crawling to the East Wing for a job. I donât think you should be my boss, either,â he adds more seriously.
She narrows her eyes at him with a playful edge he feels like he hasnât seen in years. âWhy? You think I wouldnât be a good boss?â
âI know youâre going to be a great boss. I havenât been doing such a good job with the boss thing lately, hopefully I can get you and Sam and Lou to smack me upside the head if it gets bad again. But I just mean, in terms of answering the big âwhat do we want from each otherâ question, I think we should take any combination of boss and employee off the table.â
âAnd when you sat down to come up with an answer to that big question, the first thing you thought of was our working relationship?â Thereâs a layer of snark over her question, but Josh suspects itâs just another part of her shield, another way to hide how much is riding on the answer to the big question, how much this means to her.
âNah, that was just the easy stuff,â he says, waving it away with his free hand. âI donât want our working relationship to get in the way of the rest of what we want. Weâve always been a great team, professionally, but I donât want that to be a distraction or an excuse not toââ he makes the mistake of looking over at her, and finds her watching him with wide eyes, dark blue in the dim cabin lighting, ânot to, you know,â he stumbles, unable to look away, â...have a life.â Heâs not even sure if that was a coherent sentence by the end, but he has to stop talking, has to swallow hard and watch her watching him.
After a moment, she nods. âAlright,â she says seriously, and it feels more like sheâs responding to something she read off his face than whatever words he managed to string together there. âI suppose,â she says slowly, the corners of her mouth starting to curl up in a smile sheâs desperately fighting against, âfor the good of our relationship, I can give up my long-held dream of being your boss.â
âYou bossed me around plenty all those years when I was supposedly your boss!â he shoots back in mock indignation, and she grins at him properly, all teeth and laughing eyes. âI canât imagine thatâll change now.â
âYou wouldnât want it to,â Donna replies, knocking her shoulder into his, and theyâve somehow slipped out of the shielding snark and into a flirtatious banter that heâs missed.
âNo,â Josh agrees. âIn fact, I can add that to my list of things I donât want: I donât want you to ever stop bossing me around.â
âGood,â she says, her smile nearly blinding. âSomeone has to keep you in check.â
âI wouldnât trust the job to anyone else,â he tells her, and raises their joined hands to kiss the back of her palm. Beside him, Donna stills, and he looks up to find her watching him seriously again, her smile fading and a worry he thought heâd banished creeping back into her eyes.
âWhat else donât you want, Josh?â she asks, her voice low and even.
âI donât want this to just be a campaign fling.â The words pour out of him before he can stop to think about it, but theyâre the words that had been circling his mind as he packed, as he sat in the back of the cab on the way to the airport, as he paced at the gate waiting for boarding to start. âOr, wellâ a transition fling, I guess,â he amends a moment later. âI donât want this to be just a weird thing that happened when we lost our minds between Election Day and Inauguration Day, something we laugh about later, or worse, never talk about. I didnât lose my mind, Donna,â he tells her sincerely. âNot about this, at least.â
She cracks the faintest of smiles. âThe juryâs still out on the rest of your sanity,â she says, clearly teasing, even though her voice doesnât quite reach the playful tone he associates with her teasing him. âWhat else?â she asks again. âWhat else donât you want, Josh?â
He takes a deep breath and leans his head back against his seat. That was the easy stuff, the low-hanging fruit, the parts of this it didnât cost him much to admit. But he owes her an answer, and he knows that the only way to the things he really wants is to take the chance on honesty.
âI donât want this to end,â he says, risking a glance at her. âI donât want to wake up one day and realize this is over, that I screwed it up.â He pauses for another deep breath and then says the thing that had been ever-present in his mind since she confronted him with the time window: âI donât ever want to be your ex.â
âThatâs an awfully bold statement for someone with commitment issues.â
âI donât have commitment issues!â
âYour dating history might imply otherwise,â she counters, voice dry.
âI have no interest in dating!â he says flippantly, before realizing how that sounds. âWait, no, thatâs notâ that came out wrong. What I mean is, the whole concept of dating just doesnâtâ Itâs these little appointments, right? You set up a time to meet, and then for the next few hours youâre on your best behavior, trying to prove how charming and witty and romantic you can be. And then the date ends, and you go back to your regular life, and itâs notâ Thatâs not real. Itâs some fake version of yourself that youâre trying to sell. And Iâm just, Iâm done with that. I have no interest in that kind of dating. And besides, we know each other too well for any of that, anyway.â
âSo you donât want this to be a fling, you donât want to date, and you donât want to break up?â Donna says, like he just asked her to accomplish three contradictory tasks for the good of the country. Her tone feels wrong for the weight and importance of this conversation, but sheâs looking at him with something like trepidation, so the words tumble out of him before he can stop them.
âYeah,â he breathes. âIf thatâsâ I mean, assuming weâre on the same page here? I swear to god, Donna, if you want this to just be a fling youâre going to have to tell me that right now, using very small words.â
âYou think I want this to be a fling?â
âNo! I donât know! I hope not! I just kind of assumed weâd be on the same page!â
âWe are, Josh,â she says, squeezing his hand and pulling him out of his spiral before it can really get going.
âWell, good,â he replies, too emphatically, his bluster taking a moment to dissipate. âBecause I have a, you know, an actual list, and if we got derailed on ânot a flingâ, Iâm not sure where that would leave us.â
âHaving a fling in Hawaii, presumably.â
âIâm serious!â
Donna squeezes his hand again, keeping the pressure up until his heart rate begins to slow. âI know, Josh.â
âI just donât want you to think that I donât take this seriously.â
âYou made an actual list?â she asks, some of that teasing, flirtatious tone working its way back into her voice. âCan I see it?â
âI didnât write it down,â he scoffs.
âIs it an âactualâ list if you didnât write it down?â
âItâs a mental list! I donât need to write it down, Iâm not going to forget whatâs on it.â
âA mental list of things you donât want.â
âI'm narrowing down the size of the big question!â he shoots back defensively.
âThe âwhat we want from each otherâ question,â she nods, like she wasn't the one to send him off on this tangent to begin with.
âI couldnât just say I want everything with you, thatâs not a good enough answer.â
He feels her go still beside him, where theyâre pressed together valiantly trying to share the narrow armrest, and with a sudden panic he wonders if that was exactly the wrong thing to say.
âNo, not everything,â she says softly, unfocused gaze on the seatback rather than on him. âNot boss-employee, not dating, not exes, not a fling.â She takes a deep breath and turns back to him, seeming to pull herself out of whatever contemplation his words threw her into. âWhat exactly does that leave, Josh?â
The words everything else are on the tip of his tongue, but he bites them back. There are more entries on his mental list, and they exist to give that everything else a more specific shape. Thatâs the whole point of the list. âI donât think we should have separate apartments, after we get back to DC,â he says. Donnaâs eyebrows furrow, like that was not at all what she expected him to say, so he hastens to add, âI just mean, weâre both going to have demanding jobs, with long hours and late nights. It would be nice to spend the time we do have outside of work together, rather than trying to coordinate when we can drop by the other personâs place for a few short hours.â
âAre you asking me to move in with you?â she asks, eyes wide and brow still furrowed.
Josh winces, realizing he probably should have done just that, but there are other complications to consider. âI think I need to find a new place, actually â CJ said something about the Secret Service taking over her guest bedroom, and I have a planning email from Ron Butterfield that I've been meaning to read. I donât think my one bedroom, eight hundred square foot apartment is going to cut it, after January twentieth. But maybe we could find a new place together?â
âOh, youâre really serious about this,â Donna says, more surprised than disbelieving, he thinks.
âAre we back around to ânot a flingâ?â he asks, squinting at her.
She shakes her head and turns towards him, pressing her left shoulder into her seat so she can look at him as straight on as the small space will allow. Itâs somewhat hampered by her seat belt, which she deftly releases with her right hand without removing her left hand from his grasp. Josh is reminded that this is a no-seat-belts-necessary conversation, and undoes his in solidarity, if significantly less grace.
âYou want to move in together,â she says slowly, like sheâs still trying to wrap her head around the concept, âand you donât ever want us to break up.â
âYeah.â
âSo,â Donna pauses, wets her lips with the tip of her tongue, and for a moment Josh thinks seriously about kissing her â but he wants to hear whatever thought sheâs so clearly working up the nerve to say, so he keeps the impulse to himself and waits as patiently as he can. âTheoretically at least, we could buy a house together. Since weâre never going to break up.â
She looks up at him from under her lashes, a posture he associates with difficult questions, with answers she doesnât want to hear but knows she needs to. Buying a house hadnât even occurred to him, but shared property ownership fits in easily with everything else he imagines for their future, so the question doesnât quite bowl him over the way he thinks she expected it to.
âYeah,â he says with as much nonchalance as he can summon, and watches as her shoulders visibly relax. âTheoretically, sure. Iâm not sure the transition is the best time to go house-hunting, but we could talk about it.â
âAnd you think weâre ready for that?â she asks, tucking a strand of hair behind her ear with her free hand. âLiving together? Weâre not rushing into things?â
âNah, this feels like the furthest thing from rushing. I wanted to ask you to move in with me years ago, after all those months when you practically lived at my place. But the boss-employee thing kinda got in the way.â He flashes her a smile, the one with the dimples that he knows she likes.
âJosh...â she sighs, dropping her gaze to their joined hands, and with sudden horror he realizes itâs disappointment he hears in her voice.
âWhat?â he asks, stumbling over the words. âWhat did Iââ
âYou didnât want to ask me to move in back then.â Itâs not a question, just a statement of fact. A fact that sheâs wrong about, but itâs her certainty that scares him.
âYes I did,â he says in a rush, anxious to clear up whatever misunderstanding has led her to that incorrect assumption and get back to his list and the last few supremely important items on it.
âThen why didnât you?â she asks, glancing up at him with her chin tucked low again. She asks it like itâs checkmate, like there is only one possible answer, like sheâs caught him in a lie.
âBecause I couldnât,â he tells her honestly, the words falling out of him now that thereâs finally nothing to hold them back. âBecause I knew I wouldnât be able toâ to function, without you, at the White House. I didnât last a week there after you left. If Iâd told you how I felt, way back then, I would have lost you.â
âHow you felt?â Donna prompts when he doesnât go on, and oh, he can feel the weight in her words, the importance of her question, the dangerous territory heâs barrelling into. But thereâs no sense in stopping now, nothing for it but to finally crash through this wall and see whatâs on the other side.
âIâve been in love with you for something like eight years now, Donnatella,â he says, the confession rolling off his tongue like heâs told her a hundred times before, like he hasnât spent the better part of a decade carefully keeping those exact words in check. âThis is just the first time Iâve been able to do anything about it.â
She turns and sits back in her seat so abruptly that the terror is instantly back, the fear that heâs said the wrong thing rushing through his veins and stealing his breath. âDonna,â he starts, clutching her hand so she canât pull away any further.
âShut up,â she commands in an undertone, looking straight ahead rather than at him.
âDonna.â
âShush, Iâm recalibrating.â
âRecalibrating?â he repeats. âWhat does that mean?â He finally tells her he loves her and sheâs recalibrating??
She doesnât answer, so he sits in silence, her hand still clasped in his, and tries valiantly to give her all the time she needs to process whatever is going on in her head. After the most tense thirty seconds heâs ever endured outside the White House or a hospital, he has to clamp his jaw shut to keep from saying something to try to hurry her along.
âYouâre freaking out,â she says levelly, eyes fixed on the seatback in front of her.
âWell, yeahââ
âStop freaking out, Iâm justââ
âDonnaââ
âHave you ever prepared for the wrong meeting?â she asks in a rush, still avoiding his gaze. âJust, one hundred percent ready for something that, as it turns out, isnât happening right now?â
âI mean, yeah, butââ
âYou were going to take Amy to Tahiti,â she says, finally turning to look at him.
The non sequitur throws him for a moment. âWhat does that have to do with anything?â
âYou were going to take Amy to Tahiti, and when you couldnât go you decorated your apartment like Tahiti just for her. And then you still ended up breaking up with her a few months later.â
The comparison between then and now is ridiculous, and he wouldâve expected Donna to know that. âThis isnât anything like whatever I had with Amy!â
âHow is it different?â she demands, and it occurs to him maybe she really doesnât know.
âI wasnât in love with Amy!â he says, throwing his free hand up in exasperation. How can she not see, how can she not know?
âThen why keep dating her?â
âPlausible deniability,â he bites out. âIf anyone had ever found outââ
âCan I get you two any snacks?â an unfamiliar voice breaks into their illusion of privacy. âAnything to drink?â
Donna turns to the flight attendant who has suddenly appeared in the aisle beside her seat and rattles off their usual commercial flight order with easy poise, as if they havenât just been interrupted in the middle of what might well be the most important conversation of either of their lives. Josh forces himself to take a deep breath, scrubbing his left hand across his face before mechanically putting down his seatback tray and accepting the soda and peanuts Donna hands him, moving on autopilot even though he has no real interest in the food.
âPlausible deniability,â Donna says quietly, once the drink cart has moved on past them, â...about me?â she asks. âBecause of our jobs?â At his nod, she adds, âBut we neverâ Nothing unethical ever happened between us.â
âDoesnât matter,â he says, shaking his head. âThe optics of it would have made anyone doubt our denials. Even just an allegation, or a particularly persistent rumor, could have exploded into a scandal and reflected badly on the whole administration, not to mention derailed our careers. But if I could say, âof course Iâm not in love with Donna, Iâm dating someone else!â â even just for a little while â it helped to quiet some of those rumors.â
âAnd thatâs why youâ Eight years, Josh??â Her expression is back to that shuttered shock, like sheâs questioning her every assumption. Recalibrating, he supposes, and heâs not quite sure how they ended up here, his very important list momentarily abandoned in the light of the fact that he apparently hid his feelings for Donna so well that it was a secret even from her.
âI really thought you knew,â he says, his voice a bit weak as his stomach flips over, imagining how it must have looked from Donnaâs perspective.
âI really thought you didnât know,â she fires back immediately. âYou canât justâ You canât say âeight yearsâ and expect me to leave it at that! When did you know, exactly?â
âInauguration Day,â he says without having to think about it. âThe first one.â
Her eyebrows crease as she considers his answer, probably going over her own memories of that day. âAt the balls that night?â
Josh shakes his head without moving his gaze from her face. âNo, earlier in the day, when we did that tour of the office and you were so excited about your desk, and that silly print-out with your name on it, taped to the wall of your cubicle.â
Her eyes are still distant, but she smiles like itâs a reflex, like she canât help but smile when remembering that first day of the Bartlet administration. He smiles along with her, no choice but to smile when Donna smiles.
âAnd I realized, standing there watching you go on and on about your new desk in the White House, that Iâd probably just made the best and worst decision of my entire life, bringing you with me into that job,â he says, running his thumb over her knuckles and thinking about the moment thatâs been crystal clear in his memory for nearly eight years now. âBecause we would get to do all of that together: get a good man elected President and then work to change the country under his leadership. What felt, at the time, like the most important jobs weâd ever have. And Iâd get to see you every day, probably spend more time with you than with anyone else, strategy meetings and late nights and out of town trips and nearly every meal, for at least four years, eight if we were lucky and worked harder than weâd ever worked.
âBut it also meant that I couldnât tell you, couldnât tell anybody, couldnât do anything about those feelings until we were out of the White House. All I could do was try to keep a lid on it and focus on the work, and try to distract and misdirect whenever it started to get too obvious.â He meets Donnaâs gaze to find her studying his face, that recalibrating look shifting into something more contemplative. âI really thought you knew,â he says again, his voice barely above a murmur. âThat you, I donât know, figured it out somewhere along the way, I guess. That weâd silently agreed to leave it unspoken.â
She shakes her head and looks away. âI always managed to convince myself that I was reading too much into every little thing you did,â she says wryly. âThat I was letting my own feelings color my perception of reality. This... puts things into a slightly different perspective. Might even explain why you kept going back to Amy.â
âYou dated plenty over the last eight years, too,â he says, but he manages to make it more curious than accusatory.
âWell, yeah, to try to get over you,â Donna says, flashing him a fragile smile. âExactly the same as I was planning to do when the wheels inevitably came off thisâ whatever it is weâre doing.â
âDonna,â he says gently, and waits until she looks over at him, unable to stop the smile spreading across his face. âThe wheels arenât going to come off this.â
She traces her gaze over his face searchingly. âYouâre sure?â she asks, her voice breaking on the last word.
He nods and kisses the back of her hand again, feeling her let out a shuddering sigh. âTurns out itâs hard to sustain a relationship when youâre in love with someone else,â he tells her against her skin. âWonât be a problem this time,â he adds, and canât help but grin up at her. âIâm all in on this. And thereâs more left on my list, you know.â
âMore?â she asks in disbelief. âBeyondâ where are we at now? In love, living together, never breaking up? What elseâ?â
âNo, hang on,â he interrupts her, sitting up a bit straighter in his seat and utterly unable to keep his grin from sliding towards smug. âWe are in love, Donnatella? Are you really going to claim to be part of that we without making your own confession, or so much as admit to your feelings out loud?â
She blows out an unsteady huff of air. âYouâre not the only one who got far too good at hiding their feelings, Joshua.â
Itâs clearly a deflection, obvious that sheâs not quite ready to talk about it, so rather than push her on it, he says, âThatâs something else I can add to my list of things I donât want: I donât ever want to have to hide my feelings for you again. Iâve had enough of that for a lifetime. Iâd rather run another Presidential campaign right now, on zero sleep and no access to caffeine, than ever have to do that again.â
Donna laughs and presses her forehead to his shoulder, but her voice sounds watery and quavering beneath the laughter. âI donât want to hide any more, either.â She leans back only far enough to look him in the eye and says, âI love you, Josh. Iâve been in love with you forââ she cracks a smile, lopsided and genuine, even as her eyes glimmer with a hint of tears, ââsomething like eight years, now.â
He has to kiss her at that, twisting in his seat to try to find the best angle so he can show her just what it means to finally hear that from her.
âSomething like eight years, huh?â he asks when they separate.
âSomething like,â she confirms, leaning back into her seat and pressing her shoulder to his. âI couldnât admit it to myself for a long time, but in hindsight, I know itâs one of the reasons I came back to the campaign that April.â
He turns that bit of information over in his mind, thinks back to how relieved he was when Donna walked back into the Nashua office in 1998, after he all but convinced himself he was never going to see her again â thinks about all the years he sent her flowers in April, how he couldnât help but mark that anniversary. âWhen did you admit it to yourself?â he asks softly.
âWhen you wereââ She stops abruptly, not meeting his gaze, her free hand idly toying with the cup of orange juice sheâd requested from the flight attendant, balanced on her tray table. âWhen you were in surgery,â she says evenly, without any particular emotion, âand Toby told me it was critical.â
Toby once vaguely alluded to that conversation in the GW waiting room, and having lived through his own version of it in Germany, Josh can fill in the rest well enough on his own to understand what she means, how that wouldâve been the moment when she couldnât deny it anymore. He squeezes Donnaâs hand, like he did when he woke up in a hospital bed, like he did when she woke up in hers. All those years keeping his love for her a secret, she was doing the same. She had been his all along, even when neither of them could acknowledge it.
âAnd youâre really going to try to tell me,â he says in that same soft tone, fighting to keep the growing sense of victory out of his voice, âthat I didnât want to ask you to move in with me, way back then?â
âJosh,â she scoffs, in a tone that means she absolutely can hear his smugness anyway.
âOnly, I couldnât, âcause that would have been inappropriate,â he says, smiling at her. âSo Iâm asking you now. Move in with me? Or, you knowâ help me pick out a place where we can live together?â
It should be an easy yes from her, given that they seem to be on the same page, given that she just admitted to being in love with him for almost as long as heâs been in love with her â but instead Donna hesitates, opening her mouth to reply before apparently thinking better of it and clicking her jaw shut again, and Josh abruptly realizes that she isnât smiling back at him.
âDonna,â he says, leaning forward to try to catch her eye. âI thought we wereââ
âNo, itâs notââ she starts, holding up her free hand to stop him, then huffs out a breath and tries again. âI want to live together, Josh, I do. Itâs justâ Iâm still not convinced weâre not moving too fast.â
âMoving too fast after eight years?â
âEight years of not actually talking about any of this!â
âBecause we couldnât!â
âAnd then this last year of hardly talking at all, until suddenly weâre doing thisââ
âCan we not,â he demands, cutting her off, âinvoke all those months when I was convinced that you hated me?â
âYou want to talk about moving in together, but you donât want to talk about the misunderstanding thatââ
âIt was a pretty big misunderstanding!â
âYes, because I didnât know you were in love with me!â she snaps, bringing him up short. âBecause I was nursing a broken heart and what I thought were unrequited feelings, for nearly a decade, and dating hadnât helped me get over you! Casual flings hadnât helped, trying to throw myself into serious relationships hadnât helped, and trying to do more in my job in the West Wing hadnât helped. Nothing helped, Josh! I couldnât get over you. So I did the only thing I could think to do: I left. And that still didnât help.â
âDonna,â he starts, when she pauses to swat away a tear rolling down her cheek, but before he can say anything else, she shakes her head.
âI never hated you, Josh. Not even when we were barely talking. But then you kissed me, and then you apologized for it, and Iâ I didnât know what to think! Except that maybe none of this means as much to you as it does to me.â
âOf course it does! Why would you thinkââ
âI thought you were going to break up with me!â
âWhat?â he says, utterly baffled. âWhen?â
âWhen you called me on your way back from California, after going to see Sam, and you said we needed to talk. Except I wasnât sure if I could even really think of it as a break up, since I didnât know if this actually qualified as a relationship in the first place!â
âAnd yet you apparently checked my schedule or tracked my flight or whatever, and came over the moment I got home, very intent on not talking!â
âI wanted to enjoy it while it lasted, Josh! And then I woke up alone in your bed, and all I could think to do was give you a graceful way out of this that might not completely ruin our friendship!â
âThatâs what the time window thing was about??â
âYes! And I could tell you were panicking about it, and then this morning you said there was no way you could possibly meet my four week deadline, and somehow now you have it all figured out??â
âI had it all figured out this morning!â
âThen why didnât you say so?â
âBecause a random hallway at the OEOB didn't seem like the right place to propose!â Josh snaps, the words flying out of him before he can think about what he's saying. âBecause I couldnât even start to get my head around where the right place would be or all the things we needed to talk about first, until Sam all but fired me from my own transition team!â
âYou were going to propose?â Donna asks, the disbelief in her voice cutting through his tirade.
âNot this morning, no!â
âAnd now?â
âNo! Wait, noâ that is objectively the wrong answerâ I just mean, I was thinking something more likeâ like a walk on the beach at sunset, or a romantic restaurant or, or, I donât know, standing on the lip of a volcano or something! Not at thirty-eight thousand feet somewhere above the flyover states!â
âI'm from a flyover state, Josh.â
âIâm pretty sure weâre not over Wisconsin right now!â
âAnd thatâs whatâs stopping you from proposing??â
âNothingâs stopping me!â
A familiar noise of frustration escapes her. âJosh! I love you, I really do, but we have to be honest with ourselves about this! We donât need to set a new world speed record for jumping through every stage of a relationship in a week!â
âI am being honest!â
âThen let's focus on the living together topic and not throw around words like propose when you donât really mean it!â
âWho says I donâtâ!â He stops talking abruptly, too frustrated to continue. This argument is patently ridiculous and he can prove it to her. He frees his hand from hers with the intention of putting up his seatback tray, only to realize that the tray is still holding the bag of peanuts and little plastic cup of soda that Donna got for him. Without pausing, he tosses back all the liquid in the cup without really tasting it, then puts the empty cup and the peanuts on Donnaâs tray table and snaps his tray back into place.
âJosh, I didnât meanââ she starts.
âApparently Iâve given you a whole lot of reasons to underestimate my commitment here, and I donât want to do that anymore,â he says, leaning forward to pull his duffle bag out from under the seat in front of him. He unzips it on muscle memory, reaches in and finds the internal zipper pocket, quickly opening it without needing to see it, and pulls out the sole object from inside. Itâs small, fitting into the curve of his palm naturally, but even now it doesnât feel like his, it never really did â it always belonged to Donna, even when she didnât know it. In one motion he pulls it free of the bag and plunks it down on the corner of her tray table, vaguely registering movement out of the corner of his eye as she quickly snatches up her orange juice to keep it from sloshing over the edge of her cup, while he zips his duffle bag closed again and kicks it back under the seat.
âI donât have to pretend that Iâm ready for a long-term relationship,â he says, leaning back in his seat and looking at Donna, âor whatever nonsense Amy was spouting the other day after the wake. Not with you. I am done pretending when it comes to you. The longest term youâve got, baby, thatâs what I want from you. Thatâs what I want us to want from each other.â
Donna is sitting stock still, her cup curled protectively toward her chest as she stares, pale and unblinking, at the small black velvet box he placed in the corner of her tray table. âJosh,â she manages after a moment, her voice choked and barely audible.
He sighs and runs a hand through his hair, trying to calm his galloping heartbeat, and it occurs to him that he let go of Donnaâs hand in his rush to produce the one thing that might serve as adequate evidence of the depth of his feelings for her. Moving slowly, cautiously, he gently laces their fingers together again, relieved when she grips his hand firmly, even as her gaze remains fixed on the black velvet box.
âListen,â he says carefully, âI know Iâve been rushing Sam, trying to get him to say yes to the DCoS position, but thatâs just because we literally do not have the time for him to dither around on this, especially when it seems so completely impossible that heâd say no, that we could possibly run this administration without himâ But anyway, thatâs not the point. My point is: this isnât me rushing you. Iâm not trying to set a world speed record, or make your feelings fit into my calendar, or give you any sort of ultimatum, or anything like that. I justâ I need you to know that I am serious about this. The absolute maximum amount of serious possible, when it comes to us. And I knew I was exactly this level of serious about it the moment you brought up the time window. I just couldnât think clearly enough to figure out what to do about it until I was out of the transition office and packing to go on this trip with you.â
He can see Donnaâs hand shaking as she tips up her orange juice and drinks it quickly, her gaze immediately returning to the little velvet box. Without taking her eyes off it, she stacks her empty cup inside his and then curls the fingers of her right hand around the edge of the tray table, not quite touching the proof heâs presented to her.
âIs thatâ?â she asks in a small voice.
âYeah.â
âReally?â
âYes, really.â
âAnd itâs for me?â
He smiles, sad and fond, at the incredulity in her voice. âIt was always yours, Donna. It was always meant for you. Thereâs never been anyone else I could have possibly given it to.â
She looks over at him, her gaze tracing across his face even as her expression remains fixed in that look of shocked disbelief. âSo this isnât a fling in Hawaii?â
âNo,â he agrees, shaking his head.
âAnd youâre not going to break up with me?â
âNever,â he assures her, squeezing her hand.
âAnd you donât want me to, I donât knowâ quit my job? Not work in the White House?â
The idea is ridiculous, and he suspects that deep down Donna knows that. But this moment seems to be about reassuring her, and so he answers with a simple and honest, âOf course not.â
âAnd you were going toâ You brought this with you to propose?â she asks, her gaze sliding back to the little box.
âI didnât have some grand plan I was going to ambush you with,â he admits ruefully. âBut I knew I wanted to have the conversation, so it seemed like a good idea to bring it along.â
âWhen did you know?â
âInauguration Day 1999,â Josh replies, and grins at her when she looks up at him again, then adds, unable to stop himself: âAnd when you took me to the emergency room to get my hand stitched up. And then again on Inauguration Day 2003. When you were going into surgery in Germany and asked to see me, and when you woke up from surgery and said my name. When you kissed me back after that national polling, and then like five separate times on election day. When you told me we had a four week window to figure this out, and all I could think was I never want to be your ex. Earlier today, when Sam told me in no uncertain terms that I needed to get a life. After I called you and asked you to come with me to Hawaii, and part of me was convinced that this was the only thing I actually needed to packââ
Donna leans over the armrest and kisses him, ending his impromptu list in the best way possible. When they part, he presses his forehead to hers, not yet ready to put any space between them.
âIf you think weâre moving too fast,â he murmurs quietly, âor if youâve, I donât know, developed a distaste for marriage as an institution or something â we donât have to do this. But that ring is yours, Donna. Itâs been yours for a long time now.â
She leans back only far enough to look him in the eye, that considering, recalibrating expression resolving little by little. âCan I see it?â she asks in a matching tone.
With the fingers of her left hand still laced with his right, it ends up taking both of them to open the hinged lid of the black velvet box, Josh holding the base of the box while Donna lifts the top. He doesnât need to look down at the ring, heâs seen it more times than he can count, so he watches her face instead, watches a parade of emotions tick past in each little twitch of her eyebrows and curl of her mouth.
âJosh,â she says after a moment, still staring down at the box. âJosh, this is your motherâs ring.â
âYeah,â he breathes out, weirdly relieved that she recognized it without him having to explain. âShe gave it to me, to give to you.â
Donna glances from the ring to him and back. âI... When?â
âThat Thanksgiving after she moved to Florida. She sat me down and told me that she wanted me to have her wedding ring, that she wanted me to give it to someone who would make me as happy as my dad had made her. And she said it with such aâ a heavy implication that she knew that person was you, that I... kind of ended up telling her everything.â
âJosh, that was five years ago.â
âYeah.â
âSo every time Iâve talked to your mom in the last five yearsâ??â
â...Yeah.â His mother knew how he felt about Donna, but she also understood all the reasons he couldnât act on it. Sheâd kept his secret, but that hadnât stopped her from privately considering Donna to be family, the last five years.
Donna hesitates, then runs the pad of one finger over the platinum setting, the square center diamond flanked by smaller matching stones. âYouâve had this for five years, and you were just... waiting?â
He nods. âAnd Iâll keep waiting, if thatâs what you want,â he says quietly. Itâs absolutely not what he wants, but heâll wait the rest of his life for Donna to be ready, if thatâs what it takes.
What he wants from her, what he wants for this relationship, canât be so simply contained in a word like marriage. Itâs not about the labels, or the legal standing, or any sort of societal expectation, and as much as he loves the idea of being married to Donna, he would happily give it up if it meant he got to keep her in his life. He would give up pretty much anything to keep his promise to never be her ex. Whatever it takes, so long as he never has to be separated from her. He doesnât want another misunderstanding to ever come between them because he kept his feelings from her. He never wants her to doubt how strong his feelings are for her, not ever again.
âNo,â Donna says, raising her eyes to his. It takes him a moment to catch up with what sheâs saying, but before he can voice his confusion, she clarifies, âI donât want to keep waiting. I think weâve made each other wait long enough. I think...â She bites her lip, a smile starting to spread across her face. âI think you should ask me.â
âYeah?â he breathes, dumbstruck.
She nods, smiling properly. âDefinitely.â
And then she gently untangles their hands and turns to face him, raising her eyebrows expectantly.
â...Wait, now?â Josh demands when he finally realizes what sheâs implying. âYou wouldnât rather wait until we actually get to Hawaii? Do this someplace, I donât know, more romantic?â
âThis is plenty romantic!â
âCoach seats on a red-eye flight is your definition of romantic?â
âWell not when you put it that way,â she huffs. âBut just, look out that window, Josh.â She gestures behind him, and he turns to look, genuinely trying to understand the way she sees the world, the way she sees this moment. âWeâve got a sky full of stars and all those twinkling lights down below. And the old-school romanticism of winging our way silently through the night while the world sleeps, knowing that in the morning, weâll step off the plane and into somewhere completely new.â
âYou know planes arenât actually silent, right?â he teases, turning away from the â admittedly â beautiful sight out the window and back to the even better one sitting beside him.
Donna waves away his interjection. âAnd just think about how often weâve been here before, the two of us. Late night cross-country flights, huddled together working under our little reading lights until I fall asleep on your shoulder? Thatâs romantic, Josh, all of it. Besides, it could be years before weâre able to get away to Hawaii again, but we know weâll be right back here, at thirty-eight thousand feet, plenty of times in the future. And every time, Iâll be able to say: this is where you proposed.â
He has to take a moment to just look at her, to memorize the way she looks right now, glowing under the dim cabin lighting, to memorize the way sheâs looking at him, without a hint of recalibrating, without any of her confidence-as-a-shield, with nothing but love in her eyes as she gazes back at him, unhurried and unafraid.
âGod, I love you,â he says, the words tumbling out of him without conscious thought.
Her smile turns a little mischievous. âI know.â
That isnât just an acknowledgement of his feelings, Josh realizes with stark clarity. She really knows now, finally. After eight long years of keeping his feelings for her secret, eight long years of Donna convincing herself that he couldnât possibly love her in return, she finally knows what this means to him. Sheâs stopped questioning it, stopped doubting him, stopped wondering where this thing between them is headed. She knows. And she loves him back. She doesnât want to wait anymore, and Josh is gripped with the sudden conviction that this canât possibly happen soon enough.
Tearing his eyes away from her, he looks down at the little velvet box still clutched in his hand, trying to come up with the right words, with any words, to voice the most important question of his life. But he was never a speech writer, heâs never been any good at that kind of planned eloquence, only the kind that just sort of spontaneously happens sometimes when he opens his mouth and says exactly what he means. The nervousness that ripples through him is incongruous with the current moment, and yet he canât help the way his heart rate kicks up. He knows sheâs going to say yes, and sheâs already declared the circumstances to be plenty romantic, all he has to do now is open his mouth and say what he means.
Sure. No pressure.
But first: this was always a holding-hands conversation, so he scoops Donnaâs left hand up with his right again, cradling her palm against his rather than lacing their fingers together this time, and takes courage from the way she clings to him. âDonnatella Moss,â he says, looking up and meeting her gaze. âIâve been in love with you for a really long time now, and I donât want to keep it a secret anymore. I donât want you to ever doubt how much I love you, and I donât ever want to face a future without you in it.â Across the armrest from him, Donna is watching him with rapt attention, her eyes starting to fill with tears â which makes his throat tighten in response, nearly overwhelmed by the realization that this is actually happening, right now. And yet he still hasnât managed to ask the all-important question, his brain having decided to take a rambling and circuitous route to the point. âI donât want to wait anymore,â he says before his emotions can get the best of him. âMarry me? Please?â
Donna holds his gaze for a long moment, then takes a breath and blinks her tears away. âYes, Josh,â she says, nodding enthusiastically. âI would really, very much, like to marry you.â
Josh grins at her, because he canât not, and kisses her swiftly before maneuvering his motherâs ring out of the box itâs lived in for the past five years and onto Donnaâs left ring finger, where it was always meant to be. She turns her hand, watching the way her ring catches the light, and he can feel her breath hitch in her chest.
âI really am going to cry now,â she tells him, turning towards him and away from the sight of the engagement ring on her finger, where heâs dreamed of it being for so long, âso you better kiss me again, quick.â
He does as she asks, laughing with a lightheaded sort of joy even as he brushes her tears away with his thumbs. He hadnât envisioned this, when he was packing and riding in the cab and waiting at the gate, hadnât been able to think further than telling Donna that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with her. But somehow this is exactly right, exactly what he didnât know he was longing for in all those years when he couldnât tell her how he felt. It was always going to be like this: the two of them on the move together, bantering and arguing and finally finding a way to be honest with each other. Nearly a decade of knowing her, of quietly loving her, and it was all always leading to this.
Not that this is any sort of ending, he knows. Itâs just the next step. Itâs whatâs next.
And he couldnât be happier.
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To be continued in The Calendar's End
#The West Wing#TWW fanfic#Josh and Donna#Josh x Donna#Donna x Josh#Josh Lyman#Donna Moss#Joshua Lyman#Donnatella Moss#please comment and reblog!#available on AO3 under the same title and username#The Don't List#The Scrapbook Of All Our Days#which is the name of the series that I will hopefully be continuing on from here#my writing#my fanfic
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Self-Rec (of a TWW flavour)
Rules: Fic authors self rec! When you get this, reply with your favorite five fics that you've written, then pass on to five other writers! ïżœïżœïżœ
tagged by the lovely @miabicicletta to do this, and it sounded fun! Always appreciate the encouragement to toot my own horn a little.
(These are gonna all be tww, and I'm only replying with completed ones... sorry to my WIPS (Pres!CJ đ)
Gravitas (3.1k) - CJ and Danny's first meeting, written to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the pilot (and my 25th TWW fic). I LOVE writing campaign stories, and I'm pretty proud of this one.
None of Use are More than Caretakers (66k) - the "missing episode" in season 7 between "Last Hurrah" and "Institutional Memory," focused around Gerald Ford's funeral, and CJ and Danny's relationship. Also my first TWW multi-chapter work (allll the way back in 2023!). This one has been on my mind lately because of Jimmy Carter's funeral... I'm sure looking back, I'd do some things differently/better but I do love it for what it is!
(Born to be) National Treasures (5.8k) - did I mention I love campaign stories? This one is set during Larry Posner's infamous Democratic fundraiser and features some of my favourite things - Josh and Danny friendship, Abbey taking Danny under her wing, and CJ and Danny bickering like they're going to for the rest of their lives!
Wrong Place at the Right Time (26.7k) - CJ and Danny start (secretly) dating after he shows up for the President's re-election campaign kick-off in Manchester. Three chapters. This one is so fun and so silly (and it took me forever to write until i took all the Serious Plot Points out), and that's an energy I'd like to carry forward into my other works. (To mixed results).
Quelle Surprise (3.1k) - speaking of fun and silly, how about this one? a Fun little post-canon married fic where CJ accidentlaly blurts out that she thinks she's pregnant... in the middle of sex. (This was so deeply unserious, I was on something else this summer with the fun, silly, spicy stories. Anyone know where I can go to get more of that energy?)
Honourable mentions go to my beloved gen(ish) fics Two for the Road (an exploration of CJ and Toby's friendship across various election nights; 5.3k) and The Day on Which They Shall Give Their Votes (Election Day 1998; 3.3k).
Thank you again, Mia đ
(Oh, and not me forgetting to tag other authors! *facepalm* uhhh @allatariel @bartletslesbians @malkaleh @sloganeeer @unseenacademic)
#the west wing#tww#the fact is I could keep going#I feel like 2024 was a good - if underrated lol - year for me. writing wise#but since I think Jess also sent me this i can talk about it over there. AND talk about works in the billion other fandoms I've been in#(twelve-ish years of writing fic. it's a lot!)
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Fic author self rec
I was tagged by @malkaleh, thank you!
I picked five fics and they're all mostly gen fics and I love that actually; I need a dozen more of those at least. (All TWW)
In sweetness (Josh & CJ, Josh meets CJ's newborn daughter for the first time. background CJ/Carol; 1200 words, G)
Something they can't take away (Leo & CJ, Christmas during the transition in season 7 (Leo lives); CJ develops an eating disorder in the aftermath of the leak; 4900 words, T)
All they keep asking me (Andy & CJ, CJ visits Andy and the twins a few weeks after they're born and they talk about the house and the proposal; 3500 words, T
For the sake of trying (Andy & Matt Santos, Andy coming back to the hill for that resolution vote after Gaza, she's not okay but they're friends and that's nice; 2400 words, T)
A feeling so peculiar (Leo & CJ, Carol & CJ, Andy/CJ, the fic I keep talking about. CJ survives a suicide attempt, no one is really okay through that recovery, but they'll get there, slowly, eventually. CJ/Andy is for future chapters; currently 87K words, M, please read the tags of this one I beg you)
Tagging: @apinchofm @thebartlets @jessbakescakes @onekisstotakewithme @miabicicletta @claudiajcregg and anyone else who wants to do this!
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"... we had an odd moment today. just another in a long series of odd moments meant to be ignored."
*i fall to my knees in the middle of my living room*
silly little political show thinks it can hurt me?!?!
#the west wing#tww#i love the cold!! i love joshdonna and their changing relationship!! i love donnacj being besties!!#i love fairy lights!! i love debbie muttering at vinick!! i love the bono mention!!#i love the tension in the vinick campaign!! i love will and kate being awkward!!#season 7 episode 13 of the west wing i love you i love you i love you!!!!
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7, 15, 26, for Josh?
okay i finally finished everything for my midterms so my treat is i get to sit and write about josh--- thanks tessa!!
if anyone else wants to send more questions for josh, or anyone else (tww or other things i've blogged about!!), the post is here
7. What's something the fandom does when it comes to this character that you like?
everyone seems to understand that although Josh is supremely smart, he is also supremely dumb. he really has kicked puppy energy so often and i really love that everyone who watches the show just looks at him as a long lost friend whom they once picked apples with in papaâs orchard. except not me i identify with him in a carnal way. in terms of writing i love love LOVE when any fic brings in his relationship with his mom. she never gets a canon name (i don't think???) but in my heart her name is Dina and she's everything to me, and so is his relationship with her.
15. What's your favorite ship for this character? (Doesn't matter if it's canon or not.)
so the easy answer is samjosh. but there's a complicated aspect to it. because i think brad and rob had some WEIRD sexual tension especially in the first few seasons (literally no straight explanation for itsotg???) and then the fact that he goes back to sam at the end...
but the more complicated answer is that i think sam and josh are my favorite, but they don't end up together in my heart. there's something beautifully dysfunctional about them in season 4 when sam leaves for california, and then he just disappears... i know the irl reasons but i think that they have a really messy breakup but bc they're gay and its 2003 no one can know about it. so that's also why josh kinda goes off the rails after sam leaves too. it makes sense to me. that's why i've written two fics about it!!!
so the more complicated answer is they are toxic yaoi, and also to cope with senior year of high school i developed an oc that is josh's soulmate (if you've read you never gave a warning sign, he makes an appearance at the end...) and is NOT ashamed of josh but also doesn't work in politics because i think that's what he needs.
26. What's something the character has done you can't get over? Be it something funny, bad, good, serious, whatever?
there are so many things... so many iconic moments... but i think a really underrated arc of his is his arc with the matthew perry character in like season 5 (i think...) because he used to work really closely with hoynes, and seeing him have to deal with how much hoynes hates being vp and have a sex scandal, etc. i started writing a fic at one point about his guilt around hoynes (if he hadn't gone to work for bartlet, hoynes would have been president) but it never got finished.
thanks for asking questions! i miss writing west wing stuff.
#the west wing#josh lyman#samjosh#bartletslesbians#ask games#at some point in my life i will write the sequel that includes my oc#he's the love of my life actually#he's soooo well fleshed out in my brain i wish he was canon#i also generally wish gay josh was canon#sorry joshdonnas i am not among you
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20 questions for fic writers
I was tagged by my dear, talented friend @mihrsuri Thanks, friend! đđđđ 1. How many works do you have on Ao3? 13 at the moment đ
2. What's your total Ao3 word count? 28,823
3. What fandoms do you write for? The West Wing.
4. What are your top five fics by kudos? The First Lady - my ongoing fic where I answer the most important question in the world: what was Abbey Bartlet doing during the episodes she didn't appear in?
Josh and the Jackass - what happened right before Governor Bartlet decided to follow Josh to the airport in In the Shadow of Two Gunmen.
Breathe - a post-ep for Dead Irish Writers. Her birthday party is over, and Abbey Bartlet must face the New Hampshire Medical Board.
A Bit Desperate - part three of a series of three-sentence fics about Abbey and Jed in the aftermath of Zoey's kidnapping.
Anything Else I Need to Know - Five times the staff of Bartlet for America interrupted a barbecuing session and one time CJ interrupted a different kind of session. Takes place during the First Bartlet Campaign.
5. Do you respond to comments? Yes, I do. I do my best to respond to every comment I get, as fast as I can. It's a two-way street, we, as fic authors, often complain (and rightly so) about the lack of feedback, the lack of comments and kudos, but we don't respond to comments. As a reader, I am more likely to comment on a fic from an author who's replied to my comments earlier. But I guess I get so few comments that I can easily respond to all of them đ€·ââïž and since there are like 7 people who care about what I write, the least I can do is respond to their very kind comments đđ
6. What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending? I guess it's Anything Else I Need to Know. The ending isn't too angsty by itself, but if you put it into context and you know the overarching plot of first few seasons of TWW, it's definitely angsty. Honorable mentions: With Pomp and Parade & And the Silence Haunts our Bedchamber - they both deal with the aftermath of Zoey's kidnapping.
7. What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending? White Christmas. And Something for Us to Remember too also qualifies. You have to read them to know why đđ
8. Do you get hate on fics? Luckily, I'm not popular or interesting enough for that đ
9. Do you write smut? If so, what kind? Yes! Oh, all kinds! The worst thing I've ever written came before I started my fanfic writing career (I used to be involved in forum RP, I'm less active there now) and... nope, I'm not going to write about it here. Too cursed. đđ If you want to see some sane smut I've written, check out Game On, Boyfriend! I hope I'll write another barbecuing fic soon, so stay tuned.
10. Do you write crossovers? What's the craziest one you've written? I don't. But I'd love to see a TWW/NCIS crossover.
11. Have you ever had a fic stolen? I hope not.
12. Have you ever had a fic translated? No, but if anyone's interested, go ahead.
13. Have you ever co-written a fic before? No, I haven't. The closest thing to co-writing fics was RP-ing which is sort of similar, but not really lol. It might be fun, so if anyone's interested in writing with me, let me know.
14. What's your all time favorite ship? Abbey/Jed! There are many ships I love, but I have to go with my horny nerds.
15. What's a WIP you want to finish but doubt you ever will? There was a WIP I started last year, the first fic I posted, but I ended up deleting it, so it's not very likely that I'll ever finish it.
16. What are your writing strengths? I'm really, really good at research lol! If I'm writing a fic set in the 1960s, I'll make sure that they're eating food, wearing clothes, listening to music etc. that was popular in that period. You won't catch any of my characters wearing historically inaccurate shoes. I'm also really good at digging up random canon details and writing thousands of words around them.
17. What are your writing weaknesses? Plot lmao. I write fics about nothing, it's just banter and nerdiness, with the characters and/or the author showing off đ€Łđ€Ł
18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language in fic? Hmmm... I don't know, don't think I've ever needed to do it, but I guess it depends on what I want to achieve, I might write it in English and add a dialogue tag like "she said in French" or something.
19. First fandom you wrote for? The first fandom I published a fic for was The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck, but the first fandom I wrote for was Harry Potter.
20. Favorite fic you've written? Can't choose only one, so have a few of them:
Breathe: Once again, Abbey is reminded how cruel the world can be towards women.Â
No one asked Jed what he was wearing when he took the censure.Â
Anything Else I Need to Know: Josh finally opens the door to his room and slumps on his unmade bed.
Next time, heâs going to pay attention. Heâs going to pay attention to Mrs. Landinghamâs notes on the Governor's schedule. And heâs going to pay attention to Mrs. Landinghamâs instructions, so heâll know what her notes on the Governorâs schedule actually mean. Next time, heâs going to pay attention.
Had Josh been paying attention, he wouldâve noticed when the Governor dashed across the hall and up the stairs right after lunch. Had he been paying attention, he wouldâve noticed Leoâs smirk that followed the Governorâs departure. Had he been paying attention, perhaps he wouldâve noticed the soft, rhythmic squeaking of the bed and muffled gasps and groans coming from the Bartletsâ suite right before he opened the door.
Well, too bad that Josh wasnât paying attention.
And Something for Us to Remember too: âI take it your conversation with Doug didnât go well?â
âI spoke slowly and I didnât use big words, but I couldnât talk him out of marrying Liz. Maybe I shouldâve taken him on a hike. A six-hour hike through Vermont wilderness in the dead of winter wouldâve changed his mind.â
âIt wasnât a six-hour anything! I was there, Jed, you were only gone for two hours.â
âYou werenât there, Abigail, you were baking with your mother, while I was fighting for dear life, braving the cold and wolves and bears.â He sighs and adds, âGuess itâs too late to take Doug hiking now and leave him for the bears.â
White Christmas: ââShe â New Hampshire â is one of the two best states in the Union. Vermontâs the otherâ, said Robert Frost, your favorite poet, who also happened to be the poet laureate of Vermont.â Abbey made a dramatic pause and gave Jed a pointed look.
âSheâs one of the two best states in the Union. Vermontâs the other.â She continued her performance. âAnd the two⊠the two lie like wedges, thick end to thin end and thin end to thick end.â
Jed chuckled.
âSweet Knees, weâll lie like wedges, thick end to thin end and thin end to thick end any time you want,â he leered at her, âon our bed, in front of the fireplace, on the kitchen tableâŠâ his smirk grew when Abbeyâs lips curved into a little smile and her cheeks flushed, âbut Robert Frost named his poetry collection New Hampshire, not Vermont.â
âWell, Iâm going to write the words âFreedom and Unityâ on the pie and youâre going to eat them!â
The First Lady: âMrs. Landingham withholds food from me,â he complained.
âBecause I asked her to.â
âYeah, cause you donât want me eating real food like steaks or hamburgers. She wonât let me have a banana.â
âIâm sure you did something to piss her off.â Abbey shrugged.
âDo you two enjoy torturing me?â
âYes,â she said innocently.
Tagging (no pressure!): @claudiajcregg @onekisstotakewithme @hondagirll @miabicicletta @librarianmouse @holy-ships-x-red-lips
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#20 questions for fic writers#my fic#the west wing#abbey bartlet#mrs doctor abbey first lady doctor#abbey x jed
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Weekly Press Briefing #70: October 22nd - October 28th
Welcome back to the Weekly Press Briefing, where we bring you highlights from The West Wing fandom each week, including new fics, ongoing challenges, and more! This briefing covers all things posted from October 22 - October 28, 2023! Did we miss something? Let us know; you can find our contact info at the bottom of this briefing!Â
Challenges/Prompts:
There are no open challenges/prompts that we know of this week. Do you have a challenge or event youâd like us to promote or know of one weâre missing? Be sure to get in touch with us! Contact info is at the bottom of this briefing.
This Week in Canon:
Welcome back to This Week in Canon, where we revisit moments in The West Wing that occurred on these dates during the showâs run.
Season 2, Episode 4: In This White House aired on October 25, 2000.
Season 3, Episode 3: Ways and Means aired on October 24, 2001.
Season 5, Episode 4: Han aired on October 22, 2003.
Season 6, Episode 2: The Birnam Wood aired on October 27, 2004.
Season 7, Episode 5: Here Today aired on October 23, 2005.
Photos/Videos:
Hereâs what was posted from October 22 - October 28:
Amy Landecker posted photos of her and Bradâs new puppy, Angie: 1 | 2
Amy Landecker posted photos of her and husband Bradley Whitford with his The Handmaidâs Tale castmades Ever Carradine and Julie Dretzin at the Hudson Theatre, where Julie is appearing in Sea of Terror. Bradley Whitford posted one of these photos too.Â
Amy Landecker posted a graphic promoting an upcoming Stories from the Front Line event in LA on November 2.Â
Josh Malina posted a video of himself encouraging his fellow union members to stay SAG-AFTRA strong, as well as a version with captions.Â
Josh Malina posted photos from a coupleâs memorable wedding in celebration of their anniversary: 1 | 2Â
Marlee Matlin posted photos from Family Weekend at UO, where her youngest daughter is a student.Â
Marlee Matlin posted a video of Maine Governor Janet Mills hugging the ASL interpreter when speaking on CNN about the tragic mass shooting in Lewiston, Maine, in which multiple victims were members of the Deaf community.Â
Marlee Matlin posted in memory of Matthew Perry.
Mary McCormack posted a photo of herself walking the SAG-AFTRA picket line with Mac Brandt.Â
Peter James Smith posted a photo of himself on the SAG-AFTRA picket line with Greg Daniels.Â
Rob Lowe posted a photo of himself and his son Johnny on the pickleball court.Â
Donna Moss Daily: October 22 | October 23 | October 24 | October 25 | October 26 | October 27 | October 28
Daily Josh Lyman: October 22 | October 23 | October 24 | October 25 | October 26 | October 27 | October 28
No Context BWhit: October 22 | October 23 | October 24 | October 25 | October 26 | October 27 | October 28
@twwarchive: October 22 | October 23 | October 24 | October 25 | October 26 | October 27 | October 28
Miscellaneous:
On October 28th, beloved actor Matthew Perry passed away. In addition to being known around the world for playing Chandler Bing on Friends, TWW and Sorkinverse fans also know and love him for his roles as Joe Quincy, the Associate White House Counsel who replaces Ainsley Hayes, and Matt Albie on Studio 60. We are deeply saddened by this loss and are sending our love to his family, friends, and fans.Â
Edits/Artwork:
#joshdonnamsr (taylorâs version)! by @hvnleia [VIDEO EDIT] #JOSHDONNA: i broke my own heart âcause you were too polite to do it by @JessBakesCakes [VIDEO EDIT]
Editorsâ Choice:Â
Trick or treat! To celebrate spooky season, we rounded up some of our favorite Halloween fics that werenât in last yearâs Halloween round-up. Stay in with these sweet (and mostly not-so scary) treats!Â
Dead Man's Creek by LadyReisling for RisalSoran | Rated G | No Pairings Listed (Gen Fic) | Complete | No political operative in their right mind would be here four days before the election. But they all lived by the same credo: Let Bartlet be Bartlet. "Who said this is a good idea?" by msmarycrawley | Rated G | No Pairings Listed (Gen Fic) | Complete | The countryâs best and brightest decorate the White House for Halloween. life and love are the same by jazzjo | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss, C. J. Cregg/Andrea Wyatt/Toby Ziegler (implied) | Complete | As far as Josh knows, his baby girl has it all figured out. If things were different... by Khoshekh42 | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Sam Seaborn | Complete | Josh hands out candy on Halloween. He and Sam talk about their relationship. all dressed up by sam_writes_fics | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss, Ainsley Hayes/Sam Seaborn | Complete | Josh and Donna take their kids trick or treating. // Halloween fic set fifteen (ish) years post canon. Stuck in the Middle With You by blueteak for SuburbanSun | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete | fter an hour stuck in the elevator on Halloween, senior staff suspected the reason they were still stuck there had something to do with Leo trying to teach them a lesson. White House elevators couldn't just get stuck like others, could they? tears and fears and feelinâ proud by jeaniecregg | Rated G | C. J. Cregg/Toby Ziegler | Complete | CJ drags Toby to a scary movie.
We will be reblogging this week's fics shortly!
#the west wing#tww#tww fandom#josh lyman#donna moss#tww fic#west wing#cj cregg#sam seaborn#toby ziegler
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You Can't Leave (TWW Fanfic)
You Can't Leave: F/M, Will/Kate. Will and Kate are stuck at a state dinner where they don't know the language. Will tries to leave, Kate convinces him to stay.
Excerpt:
He started to push his chair back. âIâm going to get some air.â Kateâs arm caught him on the wrist before he could move, pinning him like a vice. She shook her head almost imperceptibly, her eyes boring a hole into him that felt bone-deep. âYou canât leave.â
As with my previous post, this was written from @twwpress Wheel of Destiny Drabble Challenge. My prompts were: Season 7, Trapped Together, and a state dinner.
#tww wheel of destiny drabble challenge#the west wing#west wing#will bailey#kate harper#ao3#fanfic#drabble#story prompt
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in terms of shows I associate you with MASH because you are my MASHtual and I also associate you with West Wing which I have not watched but I do enjoy your posts on it. I also associate you with great takes (both for shows and for irl things)
also because I know you love to talk about em feel free to use this ask as an excuse to talk about a WIP of your choosing because I also associate you with good fics -ypq
omg hi thank you <3
also like you should watch The West Wing but even if you don't want to (which I understand) you should watch the three episode Josh Lyman Trauma Suite because Noël is so good and I want more MASHtuals to see it. also in seasons 6 and 7 Alan Alda is there.
I found this TWW WIP recently called the squash game about using various euphemisms--including, naturally, squash--on the schedule for Josh's therapy sessions. The concept is Amy, Josh's girlfriend, asks if he's around to grab dinner and Donna tells him sorry, he's at his squash game, assuming Amy knows what that means, and Amy says "Josh doesn't play squash" causing Donna to figure out Josh has not told her that he's in therapy or that he was diagnosed with PTSD. Then Donna would talk to Josh about it and encourage him to tell Amy, which he does and it goes okay but not great. I didn't write very much of it but I'm mad because what I did write is really good!
âI mean, we could say youâre doing something else. Something innocuous. Something boring.â Josh opened his mouth, and she saw all the warning signs of a protest. âDonât,â she warned. âItâs lying,â he said anyway, but meekly. âTo who?â she questioned. She knew he was worried about his schedule leaking or being subpoenaedâtheyâd had a number of arguments about the probability of either of those outcomesâbut sheâd reminded him every time that it was a private document, not intended for the eyes of anyone who didnât work for him. Josh was quiet. âItâs good enough for the president, Josh,â and that was what sold him.Â
Also in my Trapper-Charles Misunderstandings WIP, Trapper has a work friend who mostly exists to give him gossip about Charles, only now I've started thinking about their friendship and specifically how much he knows about Hawkeye. I'm probably going to leave a lot of that out because I think it's more compelling if you just get a glimpse but once again I'm being derailed by an OC. What else is new.
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now why the fuck isn't donna in the season 7 tww opening credits
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