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Reunion and Loss. A continuation of Twin in the Mirror and Chimera Twin Constantine, a remix of the Golden Boy arc from Hellblazer.
A story of Two Constantine brothers and the different ways they handled grief after losing each other at birth.
#john constantine#hellblazer#vertigo comics#dc comics#goldie constantine#golden boy#cw stillbirth#cw family loss#my art#jl remix#while I like the concept of the Golden Boy arc in Hellblazer- I feel they skimmed right past grief as a major theme#someone said before that womb twin deaths are brushed over and not recognized fully as a loss- and that's not fair to the survivor twin!
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I feel like I wrote this myself. I have written almost the exact same words more times than I can even remember.
People really don't understand that the "clump of cells" argument hurts people. People who are alive today, not just the babies whose deaths are being justified with it. We are real. Our pain is real, and it is proof that our twins lived and that they mattered.
I love seeing other people experiences and how these lead them to be prolife.
For me personally, one of the main reason is that i am a womb twin survivor.
I was supposed to be a triplet, but when I was 10 weeks in the womb old, my mom miscarriaged my two siblings. I discovered this only in recent years, since nobody even thought of saying this to me, but it lead to having so many explanations for why my mental health had always been not okay since I was a child.
I always experienced grief, sense of loss, loneliness, sadness and I never known why. My mom's pregnancy also wasn't easy and that had ripercussion also on my mental health as well. I am diagnosed with depression, ocd and anxiety.
So it hurts me personally to see people saying that babies are "clumps of cells" until 24 months, that they would remember absolutely nothing of being in the womb and it would never affect them because it's simply not true.
Babies are live being. And they matter.
#prolife#twin womb survivor#vts survivor#sunrise twin#sunrise twin thoughts#mental health#womb twin survivor
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Geez... I was just doing some reading on the internet and got a punch in the gut.
This started because I saw a post in a womb twin survivor support group where someone had posted and was describing how they were born with a pin hole in their spine, which sounded very similar to my own diagnosis of Spina Bifida Occulta.
Anyway, certain health problems are more common in Vanishing Twin Survivors, and I thought I remembered that Spina Bifida was one of them, so I was looking it up to see if I was remembering correctly.
As I'm scrolling, one link said, "Spina Bifida a vanishing nightmare." So I clicked on it, and it was a quick thing about how numbers were going down, and they weren't sure why, but part was attributed to terminating affected pregnancies. The conclusion was that if they continued "preventative measures" i.e. termination, Spina Bifida could disappear. Of course! The solution to this health problem isn't to work on an *actual* cure or improve treatments... it's to just kill the people who have it. That will solve everything.
I'm just... I don't even know why I'm surprised. They wanted to kill me then. Of course, they would want to kill me if I was born today. I don't know why I would expect anything else... but it made me so... sad.
You know... I had an older cousin who had a much more severe case of Spina Bifida than I do. And when I say older, I mean he was like my parents' age. He was worse off than me, but he was always smiling. He was always joking with people. He volunteered his time to his local church, he stood by his principals, he helped out people in need without ever asking anything in return... and when he died, the funeral home was packed. There was a line around the building of people waiting to say their goodbyes, and it kept up the entire visitation. People were parked way down the road and had to walk to get there. My cousin was a light in people's lives.
But if he had been born right now, people would just weigh his life based on his disability and determine that he should be killed before his light could reach anyone. But sure... we can eliminate this disorder by killing the people who have it. It's disgusting that people think that way. There's no other word for it.
#pro life#prolife#spina bifida#spina bifida occulta#womb twin survivor#vts survivor#womb twin#vts#vanishing twin#sunrise twin thoughts#abortion#anti abortion#true story
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For @livingtheparadoxlife, who asked I write something on the twins and Krishnaa after the war.
This is gonna be long and angsty as hell, warning.
Krishnaa can barely look at her youngest two husbands nowadays.
It is no fault of their own, she knows.
But the kalachakra has spun, wreaking untold devastation across every single person, ripping their very souls out of them.
She can barely look at them together for a few seconds before she is reminded by the ghost of what is, what was, and bile rises in her throat and she has to excuse herself, their sad eyes trailing her as she flees, eyes burning.
She gets as far as the next room before she falls to her knees, chest heaving, her insides screaming for breath because every inhale chokes her with the red dust of Kurukshetra and the rank stench of rotting corpses and the metallic tang of blood even though she is hundreds of yojanas away from Kurukshetra. Her eyes do not see the gaudy wealth of the Kurus but the headless and mutilated bodies of her family.
Krishnaa Draupadi—once affectionately called Panchaali, the saubhagya of Prishata's line, is the last daughter of Panchala. The only survivor of the royal family.
She is sonless, fatherless, brotherless—
Twinless.
Dhrishtadyumna.
She cannot think about him without feeling her soul crumble into thousands of pieces, but he is never far from her thoughts.
His luminous eyes, always so full of life, glint at her from a dark corner of the room, but now they are bloodshot, listless, empty, so empty, too empty—
She had always been aware of Dhrishtadyumna through a fire-edged bond in the back of her mind, no matter the distance between them. But that connection had burned to pieces, a choked and whimpering spark being put out instead of the glorious roar of a warrior, leaving ashes drifting in the wind.
They had won.
They had won.
And then they had lost—everything.
Krishnaa had always been blessed with companionship and love beyond any normal person and she had been eternally grateful for it. But there had no one who knew her best but her twin. She had been with him from the first moment her awareness sparked into existence, cradled by the fire's womb, twin sparks in two bodies.
All her secrets, all her tears, all her joy was his—and all of his was hers.
She told him everything, things she'd never tell her husbands.
But he wasn't here anymore.
And Nakula and Sahadeva still had each other.
They were the only two of her husbands who truly understood her bond with Dhrishtadyumna. They understood what it meant to be a twin, more than she could put into words.
But they had always had each other. There was never a moment they were separated. The sons of Maadri had never been torn from the other's side—not through their exiles, their sojourns in other kingdoms, not through the battle.
And she hates that.
She hates that she hates it—hates that she hates her husbands for something so—so small.
(But it isn't small at all.)
She wants to wail, scream at fate: why were they allowed to keep their souls intact when I have burned myself over and over for them and my soul is torn into two—
You have no right to take my twin from me—
The pain is too much, please bring him back—
Please—
Have I not given enough?
A twin is a mirror, a double helix, Dhrishta had said once, orange-brown eyes smiling at her, hand warm in hers—and Nakula and Sahadeva, she and Dhrishtadyumna have always been that. Similar yet different, but always together.
She had stood alone, eyes reflecting the burning pyres of her dead family, clear vision and chin tilted, watching Nakula reach for a weeping Sahadeva—a comfort in a hand reaching in the blind darkness but knowing that they will always reach back for you.
She wanted that—needed it more than anything.
But the one who used to give her that comfort was burning on the pyre in front of her.
They had approached her a few times after that. She would not look at them. Resentment, bitter and sharp, would curdle a vicious poison in her but she could never bring herself to snap at them. Deep down, she was still their Krishnae but that part of her was lost with Panchaali.
She lets out a cry, sharp and wordless, throat choked with a thousand different emotions.
They come to her, rushing to her side.
He will never come back to her.
"Don't—" she whispers, emotions a frenzied storm in her.
"Krishnaa please—we can't see you like this—" Nakula pleads.
"Leave. Please."
"Dhrishta wouldn't want to see you like this, Krishnae.." Sahadeva murmurs.
But they respect her wishes—they always have, even when they don't want to—and leave her.
The sky is perfectly blue; the wind is soothing; the people go about their lives and the world spins on; but Krishnaa presses the back of her hand to her mouth as she weeps alone, shoulders shaking, wondering if she'll ever be able to look at her youngest two husbands without feeling the hollow emptiness of her twin's absence beside her again.
(She never will.)
#draupadi#nakula#sahadeva#dhrishtadyumna#nakula x draupadi#sahadeva x draupadi#ruhi writes#mahabharat#mahabharata
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I’m the same OP who has congenital disability. The pain and trauma I’ve endured through my life don’t make any sense to me. I think my brain is literally damaged from complex trauma and all the medical procedures, now as result I have multiple mental illnesses along with neurodevelopmental disorders, and I’m extremely tired and angry. It seems like you don’t understand me to the core, maybe our disabilities are too different or it’s double empathy issue. I’ve dreamed about having my own kids since I was a girl, I love babies, but no way I will give them my genes and make them suffer like I do. Because IM NOT SELFISH.
Trust me, yes, I’d still choose to be aborted in womb, as I’d most likely didn’t feel anything and remembered anything, even if it’s cruel. Bringing a child to the world that will never be really happy and normal - it’s egotistical, period. And I’m not talking as an eugenic fanatic, I’m talking from my own experience, that NOT being born is NOTHING compared to things that kids with severe disabilities experience. For me, abortion is a mercy. Think about those DISABLED kids, not their parents in a minute. Everyone is like «Aw, what a strong mother/father you are!” or whatever, but nobody GAF that their child suffers immensely.
You think I'm not suicidal too? Lmao my brain is fucked. I'm just not feticidal. I may want to die, but I don't want to murder babies. Abortion is homicide. (Don't worry friends, I'm on extensive psych meds and in therapy. I have help 👍🏻)
I feel a lot of sympathy for you, it sucks that you've suffered so much. You're probably right about C-PTSD. I think the compassionate response to human suffering isn't to get rid of the sufferer, especially not through violence. That's what euthanasia is, and abortion. It sets up a horrific double standard that while abled and "healthy" people get suicide prevention, disabled and sick people get suicide assistance and "mercy" killing. I think that's wrong. I think that's legal murder.
If you don't want to pass down your genes, then I highly recommend getting sterilized. Because once you fertilize another human being, it's too late, you've passed down your genes to another person, and abortion would murder them.
So your argument is that lack of pain perception and cognitive inabilities disqualify humans from being people? I think that's an ableist framework to be working from. Not to mention, a medically inaccurate one; pain perception likely begins as early as 12 weeks, and at just 8 weeks an embryo begins to flinch if touched. Just because another human doesn't process pain the same as you doesn't make them subhuman.
And bodywide memory begins at fertilization; our body absolutely keeps the score of the traumas inflicted upon us early on, remembered in our very cells. This is why abortion survivors often exhibit C-PTSD symptoms; their bodies absorb the attempt on their lives, even though they cannot consciously recall it. Their body-minds do. We've also seen in case studies that the siblings of twins who are selectively aborted have worse life outcomes due to the early trauma of experiencing their sibling's demise.
And none of this even addresses that much of in-utero testing happens after the first trimester, when some disabilities first become detectable. So disabled and sick babies are often killed in later abortions after 20 weeks; they are premature infants, they absolutely have pain perception and early cognition. I made a masterpost about later abortion here.
Abortion is literally suffocation, poisoning, and dismemberment. It's not mercy. It's deliberate violence. I think about disabled kids all the time, and I think they deserve better than being murdered. You really think Harriet is better off because her brain got sucked out of the back of her neck? You think that's love? Nah fam. Bonkers shit.
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EDIT: After I was done and posted this a few more things came to mind, also thanks to my Twitter mood making me think even more about it so as of 30th April there is more in here, waha.
Hiii, it’s me again, and behold, the other day shortly before I went to sleep a new Haruka theory came to me that strikes me as quite galaxy brained, so get ready for:
Haruka and Mirai (the little girl) were meant to be twins
cw for suicide, animal death and things like infant death
So what exactly do I mean by this? Well, that Mirai either died in the womb or during birth. It is not all that uncommon that in a pregnancy with twins not both of them survive, for various reasons. One of these reasons can also be: strangulation by the umbilical cord.
Isn’t that a “nice” coincidence with the whole strangulation theme around Haruka going on. A twitter mutual of mine even pointed out that this might even be a link to the necklace, sort of like a constant reminder to himself about this.
We would also have another link between the 01&02 prisoner pair, if both cases would in a way revolve around an unborn child.
It would also get rid of some of the contradictions we have with the whole narrative. We see Mirai both at the same age as Haruka, but in AKAA we see her clearly younger than Haruka. So what if that is basically just her “ghost” haunting him? A sort of prenatal survivor's guilt going on?
With how badly his mothers tends to treat him overall she might as well have said things to him like “It is your fault she suffocated” (imprinting that whole picture of strangulation in him deeply) or “I wish it would have been you who died and not her”.
This puts some scenes in AKAA into a very interesting light. My twitter moot that I mentioned earlier once compared the imagery of Haruka stuck in the room surrounded by the dead animals with a ritual that is called "kodoku". It's a sorcery from japanese folklore in which insects (and in some versions also other animals like snakes etc) are put into a jar or confined space with the goal of killing each other until only one survivor is left. The goal of this sorcery is to create a curse that causes misfortune and bad luck. Now what does Haruka always say he causes people, hmmm. And what if this confined space was the womb? I already linked the last scene in AKAA where he is swaying in the fluid with what seems like a wish to return to the mother's womb, the goal to be reborn. So maybe all of this is connected in a way.
Maybe it even is a hint that every time we see Mirai in the MVs Haruka is in some way connected to her, be it holding her hand or with his hands around her throat. Does it point to how they were basically connected in the mother’s womb? Or how she is still haunting Haruka as a constant presence. Probably even more so as the expectations of his mother what he should have been and couldn’t be. I know a lot of people link this to Haruka being transfem, I kinda see it as the opposite actually, him getting this wish of his mother forced on himself, this thought that he might be better and more worthy of love from her if he would be a girl, this is completely for his mother’s sake, not for himself.
And of course the death of Mirai would not at all have been his fault.
But he would still absolutely blame himself for that, having taken that away from his mother that she wished for so much more than having him.
So I still think that is of course what got him into Milgram. As a big defender of the suicide theory I fully believe that this lead up to Haruka taking his own life, his Milgram “murder” proper.
Another contradiction is the interrogation answer where he answers that his family consists of him and his parents. Well, this could mean he just didn’t include the deceased person. Or that she never properly existed in the first place, never was an actual part of the family. It always struck me as weird that we don’t have more … presence of Mirai in any way, seeing her with his mother, any sort of mention. If she really played such a big role in the Sakurai family life that Haruka had a reason to be jealous of her, why do we not see anything about this?
It feels like I am really on to something here, but as much as this would clear up some contradictions it also adds some … Haruka’s infamous “I can kill anything smaller and weaker than me, you know?” is such a hard statement, but Haruka’s perception of the world is rather special, so it might as well be that we can’t even take this all literally? Maybe it was “real murder” in his mind, even though it didn’t involve a physical present person.
What also got pointed out to me was, that his 3rd anniversary artwork is a very fetal posture, fitting this whole theme as well.
#the lyrics of “the things that aren't here and the uneeded things is it still living somewhere?”#I feel they are also very relevant to this theory#as in “is my dead twin still living in me in a sense?”#milgram#milgram theory#sakurai haruka#haruka sakurai#moi rambles
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So upset I have yet to see a kuroshitsuji edit to Brutus, like, ARE YOU KIDDING ME.
That song is SOOOO O!Ciel coded.
I could literally do a lyrics breakdown analysis of how each verse correlates with his backstory.
I've been watching him for my entire life
I hate the air he breathes, his foolish decrees
His words so contrived
And I hate the way the townspeople gather outside
They hang on every breath, cling to his chest
Home to his heart full of pride
Obviously, O!Ciel has been forced into his brother’s shadow, and watch how everyone adores his brother while he stays inside alone with a dog
The oracle told him to beware the Ides
And I'd be lying if I said I wasn't wishing
For untimely death or demise
Or am I just wishing I could be like you?
That the people would see me too as a poet
And not just the muse
The oracle could be Undertaker meeting the twins when they were young, foreboding a terrible fate to come. Also, O!Ciel had to face some pretty complicated feelings of being in R!Ciel’s shadow.
Oh, it's not true, I don't wish harm upon you
From birth we've been like brothers of different mothers
Within the spirit of the same womb
May the gods strike me down if I forsake you
Frater meus, you're beautifully made
And to you I'm forever grateful
O!Ciel does not actually wish harm upon his brother, but he does feel immense envy for being born as his sickly spare. But he is grateful to him for being his protector and light
I'll never forget that you showed me to make art
And I know the love you showed me came
From a pure and noble heart
I love you, and if you want, I'll call you King
But why do I lie awake each night thinking
"Instead of you, it should be me"?
O!Ciel knows his brother is kind, noble, and pure, but he cannot help but believe he is the one deserving Earldom
Something wicked this way comes
And as I set to face it, I'm unsure
Should I embrace it, should I run?
What motivates me? Hatred? Is it love?
What's more wrong; that I too wish to be great
Or my mother wished she'd had a son?
And even if I can't be the one
Maybe I could at least help make way for him
Until the day that he comes
Maybe my name could also be known
That I helped return good to the people
And restored greatness to Rome
I believe this could be where Sebastian is introduced and O!Ciel begins to grapple with survivors guilt, his own selfishness, and him forever being changed by what happened. He wants to be the one remembered.
My name is Brutus and my name means heavy
So with a heavy heart
I'll guide this dagger into the heart of my enemy
My whole life, you were a teacher and friend to me
Please know my actions are not motivated only by envy
I, too, have a destiny
This death will be art
The people will speak of this day from near and afar
This event will be history, and I'll be great too
I don't want what you have, I want to be you
I believe these lyrics for the most part are self explanatory, but I think this would be a cool part to bring back O!Ciel witnessing R!Ciel’s death (by a dagger), and him reclaiming his dead brother’s name and family ring
I always knew I could be the one
Though I feel the endless pain of being
And I am scorched by the Sun
Of humble origins and born of the cursed sex
My name is Brutus, but the people will call me Rex
That last lyric is the one that feels like the cherry on top for me. “My name is ___ but the people will call me Ciel” is a good alternative for a potential black butler animatic/edit whatever.
Idk, I’m an artist so I could def be the one to make this happen, but GRRRR I think this song fits him so well it drives me insane I haven’t seen anybody else make the connection
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I've never been pro-choice, but that one screenshot really resonated with me because while it wasn't Down Syndrome, I had a pre-birth diagnosis of a sort, and everyone in the medical industry (down to the pharmacist) desperately tried to convince my mother to kill me. It's because my mom believed my life was valuable, that I deserved to live, that I am alive today. Even at great risk to herself because she had really difficult pregnancies and had previously been told that if she had another child, it would probably kill her. Even then, she said God doesn't make mistakes and that I deserved live. My mom's example, and my own experience knowing they wanted me dead and I wouldn't have a say, and knowing that they said my life wasn't worth living and I would be better off dead (they were wrong), that's why I'm pro-life.
And the icing on the cake is that my twin sister didn't make it. Her loss has affected every part of my life, and I say this with complete confidence because I wasn't told about her until I was an adult and could look back and see so many parts of my childhood suddenly make sense. I experienced lifelong trauma in the womb. And all those things they said? That my life wouldn't be worth living, and no one would love me, and that I was better off dead? All those things were said about my sister as well, and it boils my blood to think of it. My sister was a person. Her loss was devastating. She deserved to live as much as I did, and she never got the chance. She never had a choice. All those things they said about her were wrong. No matter what she looked like or health problems she had to work through... she would be loved, and her life was worth living. She is the other reason I'm pro-life. Because I *know* that life begins in the womb, and I *know* the impact that even a life in the first trimester can have.
People are joining the pro life movement every day. Don't lose hope 🖤
#prolife#sunrise twin#sunrise twin thoughts#womb twin#womb twin survivor#vts#vts survivor#my story#pro life#anti abortion
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ohhhohoho someone else who also understands the untapped potential of survivor twin Constantine (I thought the potential left untapped was so fascinating I ended up making it the base of one of my fave OCs)
Anyways this is a request for the twin less twin John Constantine essay if you actually want to write it. You have a captive audience. Love your guys' art love everything about this idea
ohohoho an essay request?!?!!! Be still my heart, I am so touched that people want to hear more of Johnstantine Survivor Twin stories! I LOVE that the untapped potential became the basis for an OC for you, that is my favorite kind of creativity. Shortish essay incoming??
THE POTENTIAL OF SURVIVOR TWIN CONSTANTINE
I'm still reading through Hellblazer, but I can't help but feel the themes that crop up about how Constantine keeps losing friends and loved ones, how he struggles with commitment, how he keeps them at a distance feels like twinless twin angst to me! It's chasing an unattainable intimacy that can't ever be replicated, and the eternal grief some Survivor Twins go through- that fits Constantine a little too perfectly. John's themes are guilt? Well great, he's essentially assigned Survivor's Guilt at birth as a twin! He's haunted by the ghosts of people he's wronged or caused to die? Well, some twinless twins go through that too! Famously Elvis Presley was haunted by his lost womb twin, and perhaps talked to him when he was alone. Constantine's early bombastic punk lifestyle and eventual desire to live despite the odds (like in his cancer arc) reminds me of the pianist Liberance saying the death of his womb twin fueled his flamboyant lifestyle and "desire to live for two".
There's a lot of potential angst in contrasting Constantine's will to live and him never getting to reunite with his twin because he keeps cheating death. Maybe he wants his twin's ghost soul to move on from guilt, but Goldie doesn't want to ascend because John is all that he's ever known. Maybe Goldie's the only ghost that doesn't blame John for their death (no one should ever blame a surviving twin for the lost twin's death in my opinion, cough!!), and that in itself makes Constantine feel a unique kind of grief. Surviving identical twins talk about how even looking at the mirror brings them pain- because it's a reminder that your sibling didn't get to grow up the way you did. That bittersweet "you survived but at what cost" feels quintessential to Constantine stories.
Constantine Should Be Sincere Survivor Twin Representation Instead Of Another Tiresome Evil Demon Twin Narrative Blink If You Agree
#askjesncin#hellblazer#jesncin dc meta#cw stillbirth#sometimes I get embarrassed that I'm projecting onto these characters but like! if people connect and see sincerity#what's there to be embarrassed about! be cringe and free truly#ty for tossing this bone to me!!#media criticism
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Do you happen to know anything about womb twin survivor syndrome/vanishing twins?
I was chosen to be abused because a cleft in my chin. They said I had the ability to take myself out of it because my brain was more divided naturally. I don't know if there's any truth to it, but when I found out I was a monozygotic twin that reabsorbed the other twin in the first trimester it made me connect to two, and made too many things make sense.
I’m familiar with vanishing twin.
Here are some links for survivors.
A Blog For Womb Twin Survivors Around The World
My Work with Womb Twin Survivors
Twinless Twin
I hope you find support on your journey. There is no ‘reason’ for someone to be abused.
Oz
*Vanishing twin syndrome is a type of miscarriage that can occur during multiple pregnancies (births involving twins or triplets). It occurs when an embryo detected during an ultrasound can’t be found on a future ultrasound. The embryo stops developing, and its tissue gets absorbed by the mother, or gestational parent, and the surviving embryo(s).
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My son just said that my sister gave her strength so that I could survive. I'm normal about this. It's actually a feeling that resonates with me a lot. I know some vts survivors feel like they somehow killed their twin or that they are otherwise responsible, and I had those feelings too at first, but I know that I would have willingly given my life for hers, so the idea that she was also willing to give her life for me has a small measure of comfort.
#i actually named her after a twin in a book who sacrificed her life because that resonated with me so much#sunrise twin thoughts#sunrise twin#womb twin#womb twin survivor#vts#vts survivor#vanishing twin#vanishing twin survivor#vanishing twin syndrome
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Since getting over the feelings from the Acolyte finale I've been chewing on an idea for a canon divergence for a while and thought I'd put it here for the writers and artists
So this is years before any Jedi are called to Brendock. I'm not sure of the exact steps involved with the vergence and the twins so I'm fudging some details for plot stuff. I'm going with the idea that the twins were created by Aniseya while still in Korril's womb.
It is confirmed in canon that would take someone immensely powerful in the Force. But what if other parties (Sith) had sensed something of this and gone investigating? It is proven that they'll covet those that are especially strong in the force
Idk if Qimir has joined the line of Bane yet but I'm imagining his wrinkly roommate is definitely involved and being creepy at this juncture
Anyway I imagine the coven would take the Sith showing up about as well as they took the Jedi showing up in the show. There was a fight that killed the rest of the coven; Aniseya particularly allowing Korril to escape the planet while still carrying the twins with an epic sacrificial move (no stabby Sol in this au no sir)
Meanwhile, Sol is a young knight on a solo mission far from the core when he comes across a heavily pregnant but fierce zabrak woman using the force to fight off some mysterious and malicious persuers (raisin had a Sith Acolyte or two perhaps)
Being a Jedi he of course helps her. I'm sure Korril is very suspicious and hostile about another outside force user interfering but by this point she prefers the Jedi over whatever the Sith raisin had planned
Now this is where I got hazy on details
I'm kinda imagining they work together to keep the twins safe, with Korril and Sol even reaching some sort of respectful understanding as they both clearly care for the safety of unborn children. They've been bickering over what would actually be "safe" but they've been working their way towards the temple without any good alternatives since the destruction of the coven. Reaching out with communications runs the risk of being discovered, as Korril was when she tried to reach out to any other coven survivors so they have no backup at the moment.
Unfortunately their final confrontation ends with Korril going into labor after a risky maneuver to protect the twins by cutting off the Sith's head (with Sol's saber after he'd been disarmed in the fight?)
So cue a post battle birthing that ends remarkably similar to RotS. Korril gives birth to the twins, but the battle leading up to it took its toll and now she is dying. She names the twins and makes Sol promise to protect them (and maybe threatens him for old times sake, I can see them having an inside joke over this if they were traveling for a while cuz I'm a sap for enemies to friends)
Ofc Sol vows to protect the twins of his unexpected ally (friend? He wants to say friend but he's pretty sure she would still shank him)
He carries out whatever funeral rites Korril requested prior to her death before heading for the temple.
Imagine everyone's surprise when Sol shows up after being gone for who knows how long without any contact and carrying two very young but powerful infants. That would be a report to the Council that no one would forget for a while
Did I also possibly end the line of Bane with this idea? Maybe so
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THE PARASITE
EMILY / GABRIEL MAY - taken from Malignant (2021) and reimagined in the dead by daylight universe. More info below the cut.
Name : The Parasite Other known names : Emily May + Gabriel May , Madison Mitchell , the devil Age : 30+ Face Claim : Annabelle Wallis
Biography : Emily May was born to Serena May ( 15 ) and her abusive unknown father. Emily was supposed to be born a twin to her brother Gabriel May however due to complications he was born a parasitic twin, meaning two shared one brain. During early child hood Emily began having many disturbing thoughts that weren't her own, but Gabriel's. She was under observation at the Simion Research Hospital where it was decided for to give Emily a better quality of life the doctor's would attempt to remove all parts of Gabriel that they could (all but a piece of their shared brain).
Unfortunately Serena was unable to cope and put Emily up for adoption following the operation at just seven years old, Emily was now known as Madison Lake, (later to be Madison Mitchell after marrying her abusive husband Derek) through out the remaining years of her childhood and adolescence Gabriel's consciousness followed Emily around, still determined to keep control over his host, tries to telepathically force Emily (now renamed Madison) to commit vile acts such as killing her adoptive mother Jeanne and unborn Sydney in her mother's womb, but she is able to restrain herself from performing the deed. From there, Gabriel became dormant and forgotten until a trauma to the back of her head in adulthood. ( caused by Derek).
Additionally Emily had suffered multiple miscarriages , which later revealed to her was caused by Gabriel feeding off the life sources. The bump to her head was a kick start to her down fall. Madison is plagued by terrifying visions that show a dark entity called "Gabriel" slaughtering people in a terrifying manner. (her own husband also falling victim to Gabriel's crimes). Gabriel hijacks her body and embarks on a vengeful rampage on the doctors, his mother, and Sydney Lake.
(Gabriel's weapon, a hand crafted out of a gold trophy)
Gabriel's powers :
Telepathic link
Electrokinesis
Superhuman strength
Superhuman agility
Healing factor
Possession
Expert combatant
THE ENTITIES REALM
(eventually there will be both a killer AND a survivor verse , but for now it's mainly killer focused)
The entity felt sheer opportunity following the revelation of who was responsible for the killings and Gabriel having 90% dominance over Emily meant she had no say in his decision to enter the realm. A promise made to him by the entity that his hobby of killing and destruction would always be fulfilled, while the entity itself reaped the reward of the fear Gabriel would instil into the survivors.
Within the Realm they're known as The Parasite, Emily is wildly unaware of Gabriel's action's during the trials, her visions of the unrelenting dark realm haunt her in every waking moment. While in a trial Emily is manipulated into thinking she herself is a survivor and that she's helping them in trying to escape. Gabriel uses her human presenting body to his advantage, They hold the ability to crouch as a survivor would.
IN TRIAL ABILITIES
The weapon shown above is used for The Parasites basic hit attack , it's sharp and allows them to easily cause deep wound hits.
Special ability : Can leave projection clone's of Emily pretending to perform generator actions. The parasite is able to travel through these clones. A clone disappears once the generation it's latched onto is completed by another survivor , or if a survivor walks through the projection ruining the illusion. When a clone disappears or after latching one to a generator there is a 30 second cool down.
Mori : All survivors bones are snapped and they receive a stab to the throat with the trophy weapon.
PERKS
(will be expanded in time)
REPRESSION : causes survivors to take 25/30/35% longer to heal (both themselves and each other). Aura's are revealed to the killer for the first 20% of healing. Generator's are blocked off for ten seconds when healing begins.
HEX : TELEPATHIC LINK : causes survivors to be blind and oblivious, unable to read aura's within a 48 meter range.
SPACIAL AWARENESS : survivor's that interact with clone projection's have their aura's shown for 5 seconds. If an injured survivor is interacting with a clone, they're given the broken status for 30 seconds.
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going to start researching my experience as a sole twin/twinless twin (due to being a womb twin survivor)
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Its not just that the drow kill each other, but the mothers actually feel euphoric pleasure from feeling their babies murder each other in the womb. They would be too selfish to get pregnant were this not the case.
Here are some excerpts on Drow birth and childhood by Robin D. Laws in Dragon Magazine #298:
"Bloodied From the Birth-Sac
A notable difference between drow and their topside cousins lies in their fertility rate. Most elves have very low fertility rates, in keeping with their long lifespans. Drow mothers, in contrast, give birth as often as the more fertile races, such as humans and orcs. Their greater fertility reflects the crushing mortality rate among drow infants and youngsters.
Drow females might give birth to ten times the number of babies than the females from other elven subraces do, but this does not mean that they end up with more adult children. It is common for pregnant drow to carry twins or even triplets. Even in these cases, multiple births are rare, as the strongest of the fetuses feeds on its siblings in the womb.
Pregnant drow can sometimes feel these mortal combats take place in their bellies. Such prenatal battles produce in their mothers a euphoric sensation, referred to in the Undercommon tongue as chad-zak. The feeling is infinitely stronger than that produced in the bedchamber or by any intoxicant. Without it, it is doubtful that drow women, selfish to the core, would ever deign to suffer the inconveniences of reproduction.
Chad-zak occurs up to four times per multiple pregnancy. It usually happens early in the third trimester. Mothers who experience repeated chad-zaks usually feel them in quick succession, once every one or two days. The final chad-zak indicates one fetus’s successful slaying of its rivals. This process does not result in stillbirths; the slain are absorbed back into the mother’s body.
Playing For Keeps
The fact that a newborn drow has survived in the womb and made it through birth does not guarantee its further survival. All drow children, even those not yet able to walk, feel an instinctive homicidal impulse toward their siblings. In fact, when opportunity rears its head, most drow youngsters happily kill any playmates.
Despite this fact—or, rather, because of it—children are not kept apart in drow nurseries. Their mothers want the strong children to sharpen their predatory inclinations, polishing off their weaker offspring in the process. No drow wants a weak or incompetent child to reach adulthood, where she might bring shame to the family.
Note that strength need not be physical; it is better to have a spindly child whose cleverness allows her to engineer the deaths of others than a well-muscled brute who is easily fooled. It goes without saying that any drow bent toward mercy or virtue stands out as glaringly weak. In the unlikely event that his siblings don’t gang up on him and crush his windpipe, the mother will surely send such a shameful freak of nature to the priestesses, as fodder for their ceremonial daggers. It is for this reason that good drow are exceedingly rare. To survive without enthusiastically embracing evil is next to impossible.
Drow parents rarely visit their children. Some weak-minded males might enjoy playing with their spawn, but nurses and other servants keep a watchful eye on them. No doubt because it is such a dangerous time for them, drow children grow up much faster than the children of other elves. By the age of eight, drow children can walk, talk, and speak. They are then carted off to receive schooling.
Junior priestesses tutor the young, savagely punishing them for misbehavior. Students might be caged, doused with scalding or freezing water, poked with sharpened sticks, poisoned, burned, or simply pulverized with fists and clubs. Such ill treatments scarcely seem to slow down these untamable children, who have already proven themselves bullies and survivors at home. Priestesses never fatally harm their charges; if they want them dead, it’s wasteful not to sacrifice them.
Religious doctrine is the main object of study. Youngsters are also drilled in combat maneuvers, literacy, mathematics, alchemy, natural history, and various artisan skills. Students who demonstrate an affinity for magic are often taken out of classes and apprenticed to wizards and sorcerers. School continues until the age of twenty, when adolescence officially begins. By this time, one out of every three students will have been murdered by classmates. Another one in ten will have been sent to the temple as food for Lolth.
THE ETHICS OF DROW KILLING
Adventurers who want to maintain their good alignments must always think before they smite. Just because the vast majority of orcs or bugbears, for example, tend to be evil, does not guarantee that any particular orc or bugbear deserves to be mercilessly cut down in the name of truth and virtue.
With drow, such qualms do not apply. Virtually any individual in a drow community has already proven him- or herself a murderer—even small children. Be warned, though: By the same token, almost all drow, including very young ones, are experienced killers and might boast shockingly high levels as warriors, rogues, or sorcerers. More than one adventurer has died an ignominious death after relaxing his guard with a drow child.
Drow wanderers might, in exceedingly rare circumstances, claim the mantle of goodness. Some individuals exile themselves from their murderous communities in search of a peaceful life out of Lolth’s reach. In most cases, they’ll be consumed with shame and self-loathing, unable to fully shake the savagery of their formative years. A supposedly good drow might not gut you in the night as you sleep, but he’ll still constantly wrestle with powerful impulses toward dishonesty, selfishness, and treachery. The fact that surface-dwellers shun them at all costs makes life even more difficult for the infinitesimally tiny fraction of drow who sincerely seek redemption."
I really love the article and prefer it over the more recent Drow lore. I hate how "safe" Dungeons and Dragons has gotten in recent years, preferring when it was darker and grittier. And humanoid monsters were allowed to be portrayed as irredeemably evil.
The 3.5 book Drow of the Underdark also has some good lore in it.
do you guys think nym and sorn are actually twins or is it just a weird roleplay thing
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Claire Culwell is a survivor. Her survival instincts initially kicked in when she was still in her mother’s womb. Claire survived the abortion that killed her twin, and lived to tell about it. Claire spoke at a banquet sponsored by Pennsylvanians for Human Life Education Services in Springfield, Pennsylvania. Once Claire learned the circumstances of […]
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