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mind-schism · 2 months ago
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Sorry, but not only saying "yes autistic people CAN do xyz" false, it's also following the Nazi timeline. Hans Asperger hand picked the autistic people he thought should be allowed to live (the ones who could do "normal people stuff") and the ones who weren't (people with high support need) were sent to a hospital where they always experimented on and/or killed. Is this familiar to anyone?
So, unless you stop saying "all autistic people CAN do xyz" you are also supporting eugenics and just saving your own asses. Instead, try saying "eugenics is bad" and "everyone's life is worth living".
I'm not mad by the way, I just want to make everyone aware you are saying Nazi Rhetoric.
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thewarpsystem · 1 year ago
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tw discussions of WW2/the holocaust, death
it really sucks that hans asperger wasn’t just trying to avoid being killed or losing his job by opposing nazis, he was actively participating in what the nazis were doing. here’s this guy who was the first to imagine autism as a spectrum and spent so much of his life caring for and trying to truly understand disabled children, and yet he turned out to be a nazi anyway.
it makes me especially sad when i read quotes from some of his old speeches, like this one he gave on october 3 1938: “The good and bad in a person, their potential for success or failure, their aptitudes and deficits- they are mutually conditional, arising from the same source. Our therapeutic goal must be to teach the person how to bear their difficulties. Not to eliminate them for him, but to train the person to cope with special challenges with special strategies; to make the person aware not that they are ill, but that they are responsible for their lives.” like that is such a nice thing to say and at the time it was a really radical way of thinking about mental health and disability. but in the end he still lead his disabled patients to death, completely willingly, in return for career advancements.
the first murder committed by nazis was the murder of a single child who was intellectually disabled. asperger’s direct colleague erwin jekelius was one of the men who came up with the ideas and blueprints for the holocaust. i just can’t reconcile aspeger’s deep association with the nazis and his views about his autistic patients, how radically empathetic he seemed to be to them and how he treated them like people, not animals like other psychiatrists at the time did. if i could bring any historical figure back to life for a day it would be hans asperger and i would want to ask him how he justified it to himself, how he slept at night, what the hell even was he thinking? and i would also want to know if, learning everything we now know about autism and seeing how differently we’re treated today, would he regret it?
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moriartyyouwhore · 2 years ago
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Y’know. The bar was low. I wasn’t expecting much. But y’all brought a shovel.
Tuesday April 11.
Autism Acceptance Month.
Today is Tuesday, April 11, which means we are eleven days into the 30 blessed days of #autism acceptance month, 2023 (previously known as #autism awareness month). April is the month and April 2nd is the day—World Autism Day, to be precise—and these first weeks of spring are a time for uplifting autistic voices of all identities, advocating for acceptance, progress, and sharing in the community's joy. It began back in 1972, as National Autistic Children’s Week, and was founded by The Autism Society to raise awareness and campaign for change in communities, schools, medical facilities, and businesses. And this same vital, wonderful work continues today, and not just for the month of April, of course—but every day of every year. The lived reality is that every day of every month is Autism Acceptance Month, and it is on all of us to do better.
Progress has been made, but there is still so much to be done in the struggle for equality and justice for all those living under the broad church of autism. And if these words sound hollow, then simply read the moving story of Debra Vines, of The Answer Inc., and of her autistic son Jason. She articulates everyday struggles that families can face, and the many joys they experience, too. Her message is simple, but powerful: don't give up on milestones.  
Want to know more, get involved, or donate? Here is just some of an impressive selection of charities sourced by the fine people at the Applied Behavior Analysis Programs Guide, where you can find the complete list of 20 charities and organizations:
The Asperger/Autism Network
The Autistic Women & Nonbinary Network
Autism Research Institute
The Autistic Self Advocacy Network
The Autism National Committee
Happy Tuesday, folks, and here's to better.
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genericdubstep · 7 years ago
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Hi! I want to ask what you think about Hans Asperger? I had a small about him with my mom and well, we had two different opinions about him, so I want to hear what you think about him
I trust what I read in Steve Silberman’s book ‘NeuroTribes’. That book paints Hans as a good man forced to work alongside the Nazis, who used his position to save as many innocent lives as possible by convincing the other Nazis that autistic people are talented. The rest just viewed us as a problem, they were going to pick us up from psych wards and murder us. Hans saved thousands of autistic children and adults, that man can’t be anything but a hero in my eyes.
Now there are all these ridiculous articles acting like it’s some huge reveal that Hans worked with the Nazis. These aren’t news, it has been known for decades. He’s literally pictured with a swastika. 
Look, WWII Germany wasn’t like today’s Neo-Nazis where you can choose whether or not to join them. If you were working with disabled people, you had no choice but to join them. There was a difference between being a Nazi and working with the Nazis. Hans clearly did not follow the Nazi ideology, as he went out of his way to save lives instead of taking them. He didn’t have the superiority complex that the actual Nazis did, Hans actually had sympathy for the weak.I see Hans like an undercover-Nazi, getting close to the enemy in an attempt to change them. I believe his own co-worker called him an opponent of Nazism.
Also, he risked his own life doing this. The Nazis were not afraid to arrest and murder possible traitors. If Hans had failed to convince them, he could’ve been killed along with all the innocent autistic children that he was protecting. 
Yes, unfortunately, he did also send some autistic children to their death. It’s depressing and disgusting, but that was out of his control. He obviously couldn’t convince the Nazis to stop murdering disabled people, they had a deep-rooted hatred for anyone seen as “inferior”. All he could do was come up with a diagnosis to save as many disabled people as possible. I believe he did his best to save people, that’s what all the evidence is pointing at.
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eelfuneral · 2 years ago
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Last night, I saw several examples of ableist comments with regards to Tech from people who posture themselves as activists — a problem that I’ve been bringing attention to for months. I tried to comment on this last night, but I was too tired and angry to be coherent, so I’m going to try again.
TW: there are screenshots (with the names and avatars blocked out) that show some pretty intense ableism and sanism below the cut. Scroll away if you are not in a good place to see this today.
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Transcript: trch feels specifically like hed use the term aspbergers to descrive himself bc he doesnt want to be mistaken forvthose Other autistic people
Here we see someone making a “ha ha funny” joke about Tech being an Aspie Supremacist. Lateral ableism is a huge issue in our community that causes harm to a lot of autistics with higher support needs. Making this into a fandom joke is in poor taste. Additionally, Hans Asperger was a nazi who sent many disabled children to their deaths. This is not something to joke about.
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Transcript: techs vibes are like sherlock bbc fused with sheldon from the bigbang and understand i sayvthat witj asvmuch derision as possiblr
If the first thing that you think about when you see an autistic character is Sheldon Cooper, then I don’t know what to tell you.
This is the worst one, though:
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Transcript: Person A: every ten seconds of this show I think people who are horny for tech should be added to the dsm more and more. Person B: When an autistic person identifies with Tech as-is I’m like… okay I guess?
Implying that people who enjoy a character that you don’t are mentally ill and that this means that they have a character flaw is so head-tiltingly sanist I don’t even know where to start. Also, shitting on autistics because we like and relate to a character that you don’t approve of is paternalistic and nasty.
This kind of thing is why I have been speaking up about the ableism in the TBB fandom, particularly among people who claim to want to protect us from “bad representation”. If you know who these people are, don’t engage. I am not posting this to start a harassment campaign against them so much as bring attention to behavior that hurts me as an autistic fan.
This is so unbelievably upsetting to so many autistic fans and I feel like our voices are being drowned out and ignored by people who want to speak for us. I am tired.
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vensnus · 2 years ago
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tw: ableism,eugenics, mention of n//zi rhetoric,victim blaming.
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I came to call out a tiktok account here on tumblr: ( @/rxme0real2 ) for ableism towards the autistic community,supporting eugenics and doxxing someone.
beforehand, I want everyone here to keep in mind he's 14-15 (not justifying his actions ofc) this is just a call out post for the nasty stuff he has said but I'm not encouraging anyone here to harras him.
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one of my mutuals (Tyler, who is autistic) made a video ranting about autistic ppl get victim blamed for getting abused, and out of nowhere (since he didn't talk about eugenics or sm related to it) got a comment that said how eugenics was okay for some autistic ppl, made by the user (@/rxme0real2), which ofc Tyler respond with a video calling him out.
(Tyler's video calling him out)
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as you can see, there are like 130 comments since the other dude commented in the called-out video, causing my mutual and I to get into a fight with him ( I didn't knew he was 14-15,until I checked his account)
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It baffles me that he is also autistic (and calling himself high-functioning). started to blame autistic people who have higher support needs for the ableism that the neurodivergent community (especially autistic ppl) face.
Dude, you are autistic too. You should be fighting by autistic ppl's side not against them. what the fuck
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and it gets worse because when I told him how harmful are the eugenics beliefs (because it wants to cure autism,and the user wanted to "cure" autistic ppl w/ higher support needs) and how they were similar to what Hans asperger (a n4z1) did: basically separating autistic ppl into what he considered " high and low functioning", sparing the first ones just so he can use them, and killing the ones with higher support needs, because for him, they were useless.
he (@/rxme0real2) agree and said how Hans did the correct thing?, basically he agreed with n4z1 rhetoric idk what would be correct term, but he agreed with a fucking n4z1.
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Tyler got fed up with his bullshit , blocked him and remove his comments ( after I took the screenshots,ofc).
digging a bit more to do this post, I visited the account (@/rxme0real2) and found out he has video with gross hashtags and I also found he doxxed someone because they were cosplaying PC principal for South Park.
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this is just so messed up,istg. He is 14 to 15, he knows he has internalized ableism but doesn't acknowledge it??. I wonder if his parents knows what kind of stuff he does on the internet,or just trust him like that and gave him too much acess or if his parents think like he does.
because this situation left me flabbergasted (disgusted too)
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lifeafterpsychiatry · 3 years ago
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PLEASE don't mention Aspergers as "Aspergers tw". It should be fine to just tag it as "Aspergers" so Anon can block. Their comment contains misinfo that's been widely spread by well-meaning but slightly misinformed Allies. Hans Aspergers did NOT "create" the term/name Asperger, it was coined by Lorna Wing. You can read about her on Wikipedia. It's true many reject the old label now, but others may still use it fully aware of Autistic history while respecting others' choice to use Autism instead
I'm gonna tag it aspergers tw not because I necessarily despise everything about the term but because that's how I like to tag triggers. I also tag polyam tw for a different anon. Doesn't mean I'm on a crusade against polyamory
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ao3feed-wondersteve · 6 years ago
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#RedInstead
read it on the AO3 at http://bit.ly/2Qgl3g1
by fourshoesfrank
Diana thought she was different because she was sculpted from clay. Turns out she's just autistic.
Words: 2904, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Series: Part 2 of autistic dc
Fandoms: Wonder Woman (2017)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: F/M, Gen
Characters: Diana (Wonder Woman), Steve Trevor, Etta Candy, original nonbinary character, Arthur Curry (Mentioned)
Relationships: Diana (Wonder Woman)/Steve Trevor, Diana (Wonder Woman) & Steve Trevor, Diana (Wonder Woman) & OC, Diana (Wonder Woman) & Etta Candy
Additional Tags: Autistic Diana Prince, TW Ableist Slurs, Period-Typical Ableism, tw eugenics, Nazi Punching, hans asperger bashing, seriously I hate him, Special Interests, 1920s, World War II, modern-day, FUCK AUTISM SPEAKS, this is gonna be canon divergence when 84 comes out, but yeet, the oc is dianas autistic coworker
read it on the AO3 at http://bit.ly/2Qgl3g1
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rivetingreticence · 7 years ago
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Why Not to Use "Asperger"
Tw: ableist language, eugenics, nazi psychiatric history
I was recently sent an article about the Nazi history of Hans Asperger, whose history and link to the Nazi regime is just one more reason to stop using the term "Asperger" to refer to autistic people and their various forms of autism.
Link to the article.
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ao3feed-dianasteve · 6 years ago
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#RedInstead
read it on the AO3 at http://bit.ly/2Qgl3g1
by fourshoesfrank
Diana thought she was different because she was sculpted from clay. Turns out she's just autistic.
Words: 2904, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Series: Part 2 of autistic dc
Fandoms: Wonder Woman (2017)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: F/M, Gen
Characters: Diana (Wonder Woman), Steve Trevor, Etta Candy, original nonbinary character, Arthur Curry (Mentioned)
Relationships: Diana (Wonder Woman)/Steve Trevor, Diana (Wonder Woman) & Steve Trevor, Diana (Wonder Woman) & OC, Diana (Wonder Woman) & Etta Candy
Additional Tags: Autistic Diana Prince, TW Ableist Slurs, Period-Typical Ableism, tw eugenics, Nazi Punching, hans asperger bashing, seriously I hate him, Special Interests, 1920s, World War II, modern-day, FUCK AUTISM SPEAKS, this is gonna be canon divergence when 84 comes out, but yeet, the oc is dianas autistic coworker
read it on the AO3 at http://bit.ly/2Qgl3g1
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ocotllo · 5 years ago
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child death and nazism tw; I've gone off about it a million time recently but to reiterate, the children Dr. Hans Asperger labeled with Asperger's Disorder were "useful" autistics who were "worth" treatment and care, and the "burdensome" autistic children were sent, by his recommendation, to be experimented on in nazi labs and then euthanized. The distinction was literally, without exaggeration, invented to decide which of us 'deserve' to live. Real life children were sent to labs for cruel experimentation at the recommendation of Asperger between 1932-1937, to be murdered in the Nazi T4 euthanasia programme in 1939. Stop using his fucking name to describe autistic people. Stop using his name to describe yourself. His legacy deserves nothing but to be destroyed, acknowledged only as a warning.
I'm actually sick of seeing the word asperger's. everyone who is classified as having asperger's syndrome is Just autistic you don't need another word for it, especially since that word was coined by a fucking eugenicist to describe the autistics he thought were still, like, useful to society
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