#tw forced treatment

[michellemouse]

Tengo una pregunta ^^

Cómo es el futuro de Michelle y Mortimer asumiendo que se convierten en pareja :o?

(Hiii!! I clarify that my second account is dedicated to answering these types of questions, but it doesn't matter...^^)

Actually, I was planning to create 2 different alternatives about this love future, although the only thing I will say will be "beta" ideas, that is, concepts that will have changes as time goes by, but for now I will mention what I have in mind at this precise moment

((These parallels are divided into names, good ending and bad ending))

1_ Good ending

ᴛʀᴜᴛʜ ᴀɴᴅ ᴀᴄᴄᴇᴘᴛᴀɴᴄᴇ

Mortimer discovers that Michelle is insecure and only wants to be with him, so he accepts her as she is and they form a relationship (what they had before was actually nothing). In the future, they marry and have a daughter named "Mailly Rodent Mouse"

Even though they're married, Mortimer will still be the same idiot he's if he has the chance to annoy Mickey he'd take it and Michelle will be Minnie Mouse's #1 hater

2_Bad Ending

ғᴏʀᴄɪɴɢ ᴀɴᴅ ʟᴏss

Michelle finds a way to distance Mortimer from the people he wants to be with so he can be hers, and apparently... she succeeds. They marry and have a daughter; The only difference is that Michelle inadvertently robbed her lover of his happiness and even damaged his charismatic personality, turning him into a tired and depressed person The last anyone heard of Mortimer was him saying goodnight to Mailly, until he was never heard from again

until Michelle found him

[neekstheanxiouscat]

You're back, my pookie! 🫂🫂🫂oh, how I missed you!🥹

Yeah! I'm gonna try to stay around I do have another account I'm also active on called @knif3cvtt3r so if you can't get a hold of me here you can find me there! and if I haven't posted on either I'm A. grounded B.dead C.in the mental hospital, in the order of likeliness!!!

[yippie-stitches]

"im so delulu" thats nice, i cant figure out if i have a maybe deadly infection or its just a delusion and i cant tell anyone just in case it is a delusion

[tongutzz]

Might make a dramatic display and expose my self harm to my father urrr. He might force me into a hospital or just beat me. Idk I'll live probably I just hate him

[catcvtz]

nightly "i need to cut or im going to fucking kill myself" post except i never actually cut or kill myself (forced recovery needs to go die in a pit istg)

[unstablemotions]

having nightly nightmares about my cousin dying from medical maltreatment. i spend hours every morning to get over these nightmares trying to figure out if it happened or not, since my dissociative disorder makes it hard for me to tell the difference between dreams and reality. it's really hard because i have no idea what i can do to help her. i've tried reading up on the law, but what i find is bleak. it says that if a doctor has judged you to be psychotic, they can decide if they can use force to treat you. my cousin has an ME diagnosis, but it is from a private practitioner whom the public health care system are preventing her from seeing making all sorts of excuses, such as it costing too much money when they are not the ones paying. it is a common thing here that you get punished medically by the public healthcare system if you go private for some of your treatment, sadly. idk why, since the only reason people go private is the long waiting lists or being rejected treatment

i want to just travel to the place my cousin is and stop the psychiatry from entering her room, but that might just make it worse, since they might then involve the cops and it could stress out my cousin more. also she's too sick for visitors and she's also struggling with texting. i've tried to ask her if there's anything i can do, but so far she's just given me a link to a petition. i don't know if medical personnel here is gonna take it seriously since they are already so quick to reject the diagnosis from her private practitioner and also reject the recent psychiatric evaluation where they said she was not psychotic

when i studied psychology, we were taught that is was important to first rule out any somatic explanation for symptoms before giving a psychiatric diagnosis, but here it seems like they are just calling her psychotic, because they don't believe in ME being an actual disorder. i am so confused because i've grown up with a psychotic mom. i have psychotic friends. my cousin is not showing any of the same symptoms that they have - especially not enough to take away her freedom and forcefully treat her with strong medication and electroconvulsive treatment. she has seizures already. how tf is inducing a seizure gonna magically cure her?? i really hope they won't give her ect, but they've mentioned it to her so im scared. she can't fight back other than say no. even if she could fight back, if you're diagnosed psychotic, they can just sedate you and give you whatever treatment they think will help you by force. i know many people who've been forcefully treated either by being restrained or coerced. the psychiatry is horrifying

like i get that they think they are saving my cousin or whatever, but like why tf aren't they listening to her doctor or to her or her family/friends when they say that she's been improving through the treatment the private doctor gave her? yes, it's slow, but she's severely disabled with multiple things, so ofc she's not just gonna magically not be disabled and go back to work and uni. don't they think that if she could, she'd be out of bed? i get that delusions can make you think you can't do things that you actually can do, but you can't just call someone delusional before making sure that they are not suffering from a physical illness and actually cannot fucking walk. yes, some conditions get better if you push yourself, but not ME! lots of physical conditions get worse if you push yourself. but they won't listen to her. they won't listen to her doctor or the scientific consensus on ME. it is horrifying. she's not the only person i know who's been medically maltreated for their chronic illness - especially not if you're a woman and you experience chronic pain. they do not take you seriously. someone i worked with almost died from appendicitis because they didn't take her pain seriously. she's sterile now because they only took her seriously when her dad came and shouted at them. my mom was not taken seriously when she suspected she's got diabetes ii and was then fatshamed when they finally agreed to properly test her and it turned out she was diabetic. i know more chronically ill people, who've been struggling to be taken seriously. im so lucky i was taken seriously only because it's a fairly common genetic disease that runs in my family and it is recognised as real in my country, but so many people receive medical maltreatment and it is sometimes permanently damaging to them if not lethal. it is at the very least traumatising and takes years away from their life where they could have taken an education, got work experience, saved money for a home, build a family, ect.

this is just a rant for my own peace of mind really. i just need to get this frustration off my chest a little by screaming into the void. i have no idea what to do to help my cousin. all i can do is say i'm here if she needs me

[lesbian-homicide]

I'm crying. I don't want to go to residential. I just wantto be home. I don't want to leave. I don't ever want to be forced to go somewhere against my will.

I don't have the right to choose anymore. I don't have the right to privacy. I don't have the right to bodily autonomy.

[lifeafterpsychiatry]

The worst thing is that there is so much potential for exploring the horror of psych wards from the angle of medical abuse, ableism, forced treatment/drugging, loss of autonomy, power imbalance, demonization, dehumanization, etc, and YET the horror genre keeps defaulting to "insane asylums and psych wards are scary because there are mentally ill people in there"

[auschizm]

I'm sorry, but I just don't think jokes about lobotomies are funny. I don't think the deliberate physical destruction of millions of mentally ill and mentally disabled people's brains, often without consent, frequently just to make them easier to manhandle, is a laughing matter. I think it's a humanitarian tragedy

[catcvtz]

i neeeeeeed to cut fuck im shaking

i hate being forced to be clean i want to rip my skin off i hate this

[lifeafterpsychiatry]

Even when one can argue that someone might harm themselves if left to their own devices, there's still no way around the fact that losing basic autonomy and being locked up and medicated against your will is traumatizing - not healing

[auschizm]

I’m confused about something. I don’t mean to be mean, but I don’t understand. How do doctors force people to take meds? Why would someone continue to take a med that they don’t like the effects of? When a doctor starts me on a new med and it makes things worse, I stop taking it. Do doctors have some way to enforce that I put a pill into my mouth every day? How do they even know if I have? No doctor has ever tried to prove that I was or wasn’t taking any med. I do inform them that I stopped taking the med that had bad side effects and they always seem to approve of that. Is that not how it usually works? I know doctors can be awful so I’m definitely not saying that being forced to take a med isn’t possible but is that common? Should I be worried about something bad happening from me telling a doctor that I stopped taking a med they gave me? I really hope this comes across as genuine curiosity!

Various ways doctors might force medication (in this context mainly antipsychotics) on people include:

Dismissing and invalidating your concerns/negative experience with the meds. ("If you don't think these meds are helping you're wrong/too sick to know what you need.")

Restricting treatment based on your refusal to take meds. ("If you don't agree to take these meds I won't continue treating you/I'll refuse to refer you to further treatment elsewhere.")

Threatening hospitalization. ("If you don't take these meds I'll be forced to hospitalize you.")

Making discharge conditional based on you taking the meds. ("I won't discharge you before you agree to take these meds.")

Physically forcing meds on you while inpatient. ("If you refuse to take these meds, we will forcibly inject them.")

Threatening further forced hospitalization if you stop taking the meds. ("If you stop taking these meds/don't show up for scheduled injections, I will forcibly hospitalize you again.")

Getting a court order mandating you to continue taking the meds as part of your parole.

Not all doctors use these strategies, but it does happen to a concerning amount of psychosis spec people.

[catcvtz]

im technically supposed to be recovering but like. :(((

[lifeafterpsychiatry]

It really bothers me how comfortable people are throwing around "jokes" implying that people should have the institution of psychiatry forced upon them. ("Take your meds!"/"you need to be medicated"/"people like that should be locked up"/"she belongs in the psych ward"/"get psychiatric help"/"you need to go to therapy"). Like the way people have internalized that forced psychiatric treatment is a solution is scary