#tvd fandom salt

[cursedslaeyer]

The very large desire to create a btvs rpg / group verse bc I want more people to write with and a plot to write within and it would be sm fun 😭

Petition for @cruelprincae / @dhampirslays to make one with me.

[scorpio-karma]

I've seen you criticize TVD, and I'd like to ask. Opinion on Brian Young?

For the most part a positive opinion since I'm pretty sure he's who we have to thank for a lot of the early Bonkai content in season 6 and thus Bonnie content. He knew how to utilize her in a way that appealed to the Fandom overall and not just Bonnie fans. That being said I'm not well-versed in his other work on the show or other shows so, that opinion is to be taken with a grain of salt.

[kiss-my-freckle]

Something I miss about Tumblr when TVD was airing was how many Delena shippers actively posted analyses, gifsets, etc. There are still some that create gifsets, but not many. And there's barely anyone that posts analyses of them now. Many Delena shippers left Tumblr after 3x22, 6x22, and 8x16. Judging Delena shippers was rampant on this platform so the people that used to post either post other fandoms now, migrated to Twitter or left the TVD fandom completely. I didn't have Tumblr for the most part at the time it was airing, but I was often reading well-written posts on Delena. As toxic as it was from anti shippers, it was a more enjoyable fandom experience. Because Delena got endgame and people are more toxic and hypocritical than they were back then against Delena and their shippers I don't see text posts about them much on Tumblr. Even the Delena shippers I interacted with back then were more pleasant than the ones now because the ones now have been brainwashed into being overly critical of Damon and barely critical of Stefan so as not to get on the bad side of anti shippers that may follow them. I wish I didn't get rid of Tumblr so soon and stayed on the fandom when it was airing so I could enjoy reading more about Delena and interacting with fellow shippers as I miss how those interactions were. Now a lot of the text posts are anti Delena, Elena, and Damon salt posts or unrelated posts.

I'm huge on analysis, parallels, themes, overlays, and gif posts. Most of my posts focus on the actual writing. While Stefan and Elena parallel each other a great deal, not all of those parallels are positive ones. Denial is something she and Stefan have in common. She could've spent 145 years denying she fell in love with Damon just as Stefan spent 145 years denying he fell in love with Katherine. She would've remained with Stefan for those 145 years, but she would've been miserable her entire existence because Stefan isn't the brother she wants. That's why they had to make her a vampire. They forced Elena to face her fear for the sake of living true to herself. She's not meant to repeat Stefan's history. Delena has an insane number of parallels.

[your-mystiquelove]

MIracolous ladybug writing prompst requests

THings I'm not writing:

Pairs(only counts for romatic ships):

Gabrinette

Juleka x Luka

any shiping  with a kwami and a human

any ships with Alix or Max

Marinette x Jagged

evry ship involving marc and a female charakter (I headcanon Marc as gay and genderfluid)

every phedophil sounding ship

evry incest ship

every ship with a charakter from the fandom I don't know 

Salt:

Juleka

Rose

Nathaniel

Marc

Alix (ergo no artclub)

Fandoms(mostly because I don't know them):

everything anime

TBBT

How I met your mother

two and a half man

gravity falls ( haven't seen it yet but I'm planning on watching it if I finished my other open series)

Danger force (only because I haven't seen that yet)

almost every cartoon if you want a cartoon charater say which one it is and from which cartoon it is I than tell you if I do it

Supergirl/Superman

Legends of Tomorrow 

Things I write

Ships

You can pick a ship out of this list or ship or make your own ship now matter of the other fandom

fandoms

TVD/TO/Legacies

Soccer Bunch (or the German name Die wilden Kerle I'll be using the german names so Kevin will be Leon, Diego will be Felix, Zoe will be Vanessa, Julian will be Juli os no big diference and Max will be Maxi so again no big difference )

Teen Wolf

everything marvel Marvel (I'll migth be using the cartoons from the x-man here and you can pick which marvel characters you want like avengers, Young avengers etc.)

Flash

MacGyver

H2O- Just add water, wolf blood (until season 2)

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request info:

Ao3 or Wattpad username: (if you have one)

Fandom(s): MIracoulous and.....

pair (romantic or platonic):

salt :

sugar: 

redemption:

own headcanonns:

season setting

canon difference

request example:

wattpad username:  Maddianshipper (I used my old watty name as example)

Fandoms: Miracoulous and marvel 

pair: romantic : Luka x Marinette x Peter (spidey)

salt 

amost whole classsalt 

sugar: artclub, Ayla, NIno, Sabrina, Chloe, Lila, Max, Marc

redemption: Chloe + Lila

own headcannons: mari is vegan, Luka and Juleka pescetarian, Nathaniel is jewish, Nino moslem. Luka is pan and nonbinary. Marc and Marinette are cousins (lila is a cousin here too)

seasnon setting: somwehre beetween seson 3 and 4

canon difference: Luka+Ayla already know who ladybug is + luka knows who chat is, Marc, Mari and Lila are cousins on Marinettes fathers side, LIlas fathers side and Marcs mothers side

You can submit them over the ask box

[mqttelektra]

i just think personally that rebekah mikaelson is the most underappreciated tvdu character both in-universe and in the fandom. like she has shooters and people like her but i've never seen, like, a brawl in her defense so i'm making a thinkpiece to be annoying.

first off, she shows two very different sides of herself depending on the show but unlike other people that's not a bad thing and i think it shows a lot of depth to her. in tvd they lean a lot more into the rebekah that's eternally a teenage girl with the whims of one and that makes sense for the setting. mystic falls isn't as high stakes as nola she was allowed to live her best teenage high school life because a. the most common "danger" came from two vampires that were barely a tenth of her age and b. everyone knew taking a shot at her and missing was a bad idea but taking a shot at her and NOT missing was even worse.

there's a reason why kol had to be the one to die in s4. there's no realistic world where mf doesn't get burned to the ground and the earth salted if it were rebekah

but because she was able to lean into the teenager side of her she was allowed to mess around more and act like the age she died in. her wardrobe reflected that. she joined the cheerleading team and the dance committee and had lower stakes relationships and made a friend outside of the supernatural world and i think that's beautiful

in nola, the stakes were so much higher. the "enemy" was significantly more organized and had a century of experience in living-with-the-mikaelsons studies. she had to juggle her loyalty to her family and her loyalty to the love of her life (her actual soulmate and the only [canon] rebekah ship that matters we get to that later) and she just generally didn't have the same ability or need to indulge in the teenager side of her so that went on the backburner and her thousand years came out more. this was reflected in her wardrobe as well. she was inherently more ruthless and able to make bigger moves. we saw the version of her that katherine warned stefan about in early season 3!

but her fundamental character and motivations stayed the same. her core trait is how much she loves love and her willingness to do whatever it takes to find it, even when the world laughs at her and her brothers belittle her and people try to use her. in tvd, we saw that love in a more familial way. how, at the end of the day (and regardless of the allegations) she was team mikaelson. she did things for herself, her human experiences and hopes for the cure prove that, but when push came to shove her love for her family was foundational.

in the originals, we saw what real romantic love looked like on her. with matt and stefan and mystic falls flings she might drag her feet in choosing her family first, but with marcel there was an actual battle between familial and romantic love. she found someone who actually loved her not someone who was slowly drawn to her because of her desperation to be human, or who had feelings for another woman and viewed her as little more than a restarted fling from 90 years prior.

marcel's line in season four in response to rebekah saying he loved nola more than her really settles it for me. "i love new orleans, alright? i do. and i watched it burn to the ground for you once before, rebekah. and then i waited a century and you didn't even come back for me." he acknowledges the fact that he sacrificed his city for her but then moves on to her and how he was so certain she was the one for him even after a century of waiting she was it for him. his love wasn't conditional. he loved her as a vampire he loved her in a different body as a witch and he married her knowing she was on a clock and ready to take the cure when it was available.

she couldn't keep indulging in the teenager side of her in the battleground that was new orleans, but more importantly the battleground that was her heart (i know, cheesy. but true!) there's a reason why she remains the only original who never took a white oak stake to the chest. she was able to accept herself and what she wanted and believed in in a way that her brothers just couldn't! finn hated his family for being vampires and hated himself even more, elijah wanted to believe he could keep his family together and stay as "good" and "noble" as a vampire could be. klaus' loneliness and all-consuming feeling kept him making impulsive decisions and made him delusional in a way that every loss was an icarus-like fall (love him, but he really was living on a different planet). for all that kol reveled in being a vampire, he was a witch first and most. rebekah's acceptance of her desperate need for love and ability to cling onto it with both hands when it was available made it a weakness she wasn't ashamed of and didn't try to hide or run from. and that is why she got her happy ending.

anyways sorry for this NINE HUNDRED word monstrosity i just love her so god damn much and needed the entire world to hear it

[iturnlemonadeintolemons]

20 Questions for Fic Writers

Thanks for the tag, @morningstargirl666!

How many works do you have on ao3?

27, but most of them are small drabbles, so I don't know if they count as a full fic. Apart from the drabbles, I have 6 full-chap/multi-chap works

What's your total ao3 word count?

116,728. I'm fairly new to posting on ao3, I have been there as a guest for longer

What fandoms do you write for?

TVD, for Klaroline

Top five fics by kudos:

ATSBT (which I'm procrastinating on, cries in writer's block)

2. No more brandy

3. WDMMAM

4. Mountain of salt

5. Her first word(s)

Do you respond to comments?

I LOVE to respond to comments! I couldn't for a while at first, because for some reason, the comments section on my account had been glitching, so I couldn't reply or comment on fics I liked. I got it fixed, though, and I've been replying to older comments recently. I love to talk about the different opinions and views people have after reading something they like, so replying to comments is always fun! There's also always a chance you can get mutuals that way

What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?

As I said, I'm fairly new to posting, so I haven't written any angsty fics yet, but I guess if you put a gun to my head, I'd say the first chapter of ATSBT before I started to make it a multi-chap was not so much as angsty, but it was pretty emotional, at least for me while I was writing it. I don't write angst that I post, but sometimes I write a paragraph or two for myself

What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?

All my fics are pretty happy😄I think the ones who's endings are the most birthday party sugar rush after presents kind of happy are dancing is a dangerous thing, and ain't misbehavin, they're both pretty sappy❤️

(I'm Gen Z but I'm 83 in my soul and don't know how to put the line thingy underneath the name of the fic that has its link, so please excuse that)

Do you get hate on fics?

No, not yet. I hope not in the future as well

Do you write smut?

I have written it 2-3 times. I'm not that great at writing it, and I need plot with it to actually enjoy the fic, so I did try it once or twice, but it's really rare that I actually post it. I never actually write it after planning it. I don't write it that much, though

Craziest crossover:

Haven't written a crossover. I don't really like crossovers, but I LOVE AUs, if that makes sense, especially Harry Potter AUs. Klaroline at Hogwarts+enemies to lovers? * giggling so hard that my younger sister looks over with concern *

Have you ever had a fic stolen?

I have not

...

I hope

Have you ever had a fic translated?

I have not, but I'd be very flattered if someone wanted to! (with credit)

Have you ever co-written a fic before?

I have not as of yet, but it'd be fun to!

All time favorite ship?

kay, just a sec (goes on pinterest)

* crickets chirping for a few moments *

wow, the number of klaroline pins is honestly shameful

What's a wip you want to finish but doubt you ever will?

I reeeeeeally want to finish Evolution, my oldest fic, but I think I've lost inspiration for that since I started it a long time ago

What are your writing strengths?

I've never thought about it myself, but I have been told that I'm good at writing Klaus and Rebekah

What are your writing weaknesses?

Accuracy when it comes to any field I don't know well. Regency, Medical AUs, which is why I don't write them much and mostly stick to Human AUs or TVD canon (the parts I like)

Thoughts on dialogue in another language?

Just a few words is enough for me. I'm too much of a nut to read a sentence in a language I don't understand and just let it go, I have to google translate it, so short sentences are enough.

First fandom you wrote in?

TVD. Klaroline was the second ship I fell in love with, the first was Romione (Ron and Hermione from harry Potter), but I never got invested enough to write about them, so Klaroline

Favorite fic you've written?

Excluding my drabbles, I really like how I've written ain't misbehavin. I loved writing it

[miraculoussaltlove]

One shots will be posted here storys migth not

Things I'm not writing:

Pairs(only counts for romatic ships):

Gabrinette

Juleka x Luka

any shiping with a kwami and a human<

any ships with Alix or Max

Marinette x Jagged

evry ship involving marc and a female charakter (I headcanon Marc as gay and genderfluid)

every phedophil sounding ship

evry incest ship

every ship with a charakter from the fandom I don't know

Salt:

Juleka

Rose

Nathaniel

Marc

Alix (ergo no artclub)

<p>Fandoms(mostly because I don't know them):</p>

<p>everything anime</p>

<p>TBBT</p>

<p>How I met your mother</p>

<p>two and a half man</p>

<p>gravity falls ( haven't seen it yet but I'm planning on watching it if I finished my other open series)</p>

<p>Danger force (only because I haven't seen that yet)</p>

<p>almost every cartoon if you want a cartoon charater say which one it is and from which cartoon it is I than tell you if I do it</p>

<p>Supergirl/Superman</p>

<p>Legends of Tomorrow </p>

<p>Things I write</p>

<p>Ships</p>

<p>You can pick a ship out of this list or ship or make your own ship now matter of the other fandom</p>

<p>https://shipping.fandom.com/wiki/Miraculous_Ladybug </p>

<p>fandoms</p>

<p>TVD/TO/Legacies</p>

<p>Soccer Bunch (or the German name Die wilden Kerle I'll be using the german names so Kevin will be Leon, Diego will be Felix, Zoe will be Vanessa, Julian will be Juli os no big diference and Max will be Maxi so again no big difference )</p>

<p>Teen Wolf</p>

<p>everything marvel Marvel (I'll migth be using the cartoons from the x-man here and you can pick which marvel characters you want like avengers, Young avengers etc.)</p>

<p>Flash</p>

<p>MacGyver</p>

<p>H2O- Just add water, wolf blood (until season 2)</p>

<p>____________________________________________________________________________________________</p>

<p>request info:</p>

<p>username:</p>

<p>Fandom(s): MIracoulous and.....</p>

<p>pair (romantic or platonic):</p>

<p>salt :</p>

<p>sugar: </p>

<p>redemption:</p>

<p>own headcanonns:</p>

<p>season setting</p>

<p>canon difference</p>

<p> </p>

<p>request example:</p>

<p>username: Maddianshipper (I used my old username from wattpad as an example)</p>

<p>Fandoms: Miracoulous and marvel </p>

<p>pair: romantic : Luka x Marinette x Peter (spidey)</p>

<p>salt </p>

<p>amost whole classsalt </p>

<p>sugar: artclub, Ayla, NIno, Sabrina, Chloe, Lila, Max, Marc</p>

<p>redemption: Chloe + Lila</p>

<p>own headcannons: mari is vegan, Luka and Juleka pescetarian, Nathaniel is jewish, Nino moslem. Luka is pan and nonbinary. Marc and Marinette are cousins (lila is a cousin here too)</p>

<p>seasnon setting: somwehre beetween seson 3 and 4</p>

<p>canon difference: Luka+Ayla already know who ladybug is + luka knows who chat is, Marc, Mari and Lila are cousins on Marinettes fathers side, LIlas fathers side and Marcs mothers side</p>

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[we-pay-for-everything]

Hi! Same anon who has the UO that Delena is actually more similar to Bangel than it is to Spuffy :) A few more UOs about those shows if you're up for hearing them - I actually love Elena even more than I love Buffy, especially later seasons Buffy, and think I'd enjoy being friends with Elena more than I would with Buffy in real life. I think the fandom dislike of Elena is WAY overblown. But I'm a weird Elena stan so take that opinion with a grain of salt :) Another one is that I don't think Stefan and Angel are alike at all other than both being introverted, and even there Angel is a whole lot more introverted than Stefan. I like Angel a lot, especially once we saw his dorkier sides, and actually don't like Stefan much at all and don't think he's as good a man as he's made out to be. Finally, I really don't like the Cordy/Buffy dynamic much at all and hate Cordy's attitude towards Buffy in general. Fandom focuses on the three scenes where Cordy is decent to Buffy and ignores how she is the rest of the time. The more I rewatch the less I like Cordy in general, which I know is a very UO itself!

I definitely love Elena more than Buffy. She's way more relatable and easier to understand. She's a very warm and unique character imo -strong, clever, ruthless, while also being openly emotional, vulnerable and caring, but not in the usual protective mama bear kind of way. It's hard to explain, but, imo, while this description applies to Buffy too, Elena's characterization is more unique, excepting the existentialist themes of BtVS that Buffy portrays, though Buffy was probably more unique in her time and has become the standard since. I too would prefer to be friends with Elena. I think she'd be understanding of my fears and limitations and help me outgrow them.

I love Stefan and like Angel the least when he's dorky (season 3 is my least favorite AtS season). Imo, Stefan's as good as he's made out to be, even by human TVD standards - key word being "TVD".

I don't care for Cordelia and Buffy's dynamic either. I don't think it developed much past frenemies who mostly ignored each other when not directly competing with each other, and some of Cordelia's words about Buffy in AtS were awful. I'm also not the biggest fan of Cordelia.

Thanks for the ask!

[firelxdykatara]

not gonna lie I would love to hear more about the drama and infighting that went on in The Vampire Diaries fandom if you have the time (and also want to use that time to give your experience with the fandom, which from the snippets you've told sounds Not Fun so I get it if you don't want to lol)

oh god, there was like, SO MUCH, i just

i really feel like tvd is one of those fandoms that is so hard to describe without a lot of ‘you’d have to have been there’, but it really felt like this huge and all-consuming beast for about five years until the show finally imploded and the fandom basically turned on it en masse. (you ever see that post going around that’s like ‘if you ever want to know what true regret feels like, ask someone who once called tvd their favorite show’? still a mood, all these years later. basically the entire fandom thought the show should have just bowed out with whatever shreds of dignity it had left at the end of season 6, and became more of a hatedom than a fandom for the last two seasons. when you have an entire fandom cheering news of your show’s cancellation, i think that’s a sign you done fucked up, julie.)

first and most infamous, of course, are the ship wars. which are pretty much inevitable in any teen-centered drama, and i really think the CW fucking thrives on them, but it was particularly egregious in TVD’s case because not only was the base premise of the show a love triangle, but the two main romantic leads were brothers that the show constantly pit against one another--in pursuit of elena’s affections, but also because it kept up this insistence on the ‘good brother/bad brother’ dichotomy which stopped making sense after about season 2 (by which time we have found out that the good brother was never as good as he appeared, and the bad brother has been growing and isn’t nearly as bad as he pretends to be)--and the question of which brother ‘deserved’ elena (and no, what elena wanted very rarely factored into these discussions, especially in the team stefan camp because they turned on her when what she wanted was no longer The Good Brother, but i’ll get to that in a bit) was hotly contested.

i’m not kidding when i say the shipping wars were vicious. i started watching tvd shortly after it began to air, which was late 2009, and kept up with it fairly sporadically over the years. i didn’t come onto tumblr until 2011/2012, and by then, the fandom was already pretty much a garbagefire. there were anti ship and anti character blogs, any time something bad happened for one ship the rival ship would invade the tags to gloat about it (seasons 3 and 4 were especially rough, and i’m not gonna pretend delena fans weren’t just as bad about tag invasion and shit, but as that was my side of the road i saw a lot more of the stelena shippers being assholes, which soured my opinion on the ship a long time before i started rewatching and realized the red flags were there from the start), confessions blogs were popular also toxic as fuck (so much fighting happened in the notes of those posts, good gods), and this was right around when twitter’s popularity was on the rise and the line between Celebrity and Fan was thinning, so the fandom was absolutely atrocious to much of the tvd cast and crew.

(some of them deserved a lot of the later backlash, but in the early years a lot of it was ‘how dare you write the story in a way i dont like, you terrible fucking person’, and gods don’t get me started on the dobsley vs nian Thing)

i think what really encapsulates my feelings on the tvd fandom as a whole, though, is the way they (to this DAY) treated elena gilbert, which can be summed up in one meme that gained a lot of traction around season 3 if i remember right: that gif of pam from true blood, with the text altered to read “i’m so OVER elena and her precious doppelganger vagina!”

i swear at one time i had over half the active tvd fan accounts on tumblr blocked, because i got to a point where i would no longer tolerate elena hate, and she was (and still is, in what remains of the fandom; you’ll see a lot of ‘elena was one of the worst things about the show’ takes from ex-fans, too) one of the most widely despised characters in the entire fandom. because she -checks smudged writing on hand- was a traumatized teenage girl who -reads off a crumpled notecard- couldn’t always perfectly sort out her own feelings and -squints at the ceiling- sometimes made mistakes or bad decisions. (except a lot of the fandom also insisted that she was a mary sue who had no character traits or flaws or faults and it was like....make up your fucking minds???? is she a calculating conniving bitch whose somehow manipulating these centuries old vampires to tie them around her little finger or is she a boring flat character with no depth and no flaws??? jfc)

there was this massive double standard, too--like, stefan and damon could fuck whoever they wanted and that was fine, but elena was constantly raked over the coals for the crime of developing romantic feelings for the two men who had become constants in her life and whom she cared for deeply, and oh my GOD the slut shaming that happened when elena slept with damon was fucking wild. (and also happened in canon lmfao. like the show had one of elena’s best friends basically call her diseased on screen for falling in love with someone other than stefan. it was gross and ridiculous and the friend in question was also being a giant hypocrite at the time since she was happily flirting with someone who was directly responsible for the deaths of like four of elena’s loved ones and her own boyfriend’s mother but that’s beside the point) but like elena was called a slut and a bitch and a whore for ‘cheating’ on stefan (she hadn’t, and she had in fact broken up with him on screen the episode earlier) and ‘immediately’ jumping into bed with damon, even though none of them said fucking boo when stefan had one night stands or damon had fuckbuddies or whatever.

shit, caroline didn’t get any of this treatment when she started falling for tyler while dating matt! which isn’t to say i think she should have, just that i think it’s fucking ridiculous that elena was absolutely demonized by the fandom for daring to have feelings for two guys at once and eventually acting on them--despite the fact that the entire premise of the show was a love triangle. it’s not a love triangle if both sides don’t eventually get explored, and the crew had been pretty explicit about the fact that delena was going to happen at some point--but when it did, a huge chunk of the fandom absolutely threw a fit.

and a lot of these elena haters were alleged stelena stans, and i say alleged because they hated her so much for not wanting stefan’s dick anymore that it was clear they were really stefan stans and only wanted stelena to be endgame because they wanted stefan to ‘win’ at the end of the day, because ‘he’s the good brother’ so he deserved elena more.

it was all very gross and very misogynistic and very sex shaming (apparently delena was a ‘shallow’ and ‘superficial’ relationship because they had sex after two years of unrequited feelings slowly becoming requited and then pining for ages on both sides, and because they had a lot of on screen chemistry that the show capitalized on for years so of course they did a lot of making out and shit but it’s not like stelena didn’t have its fair share of making out and sex scenes, stefan was just too much of a coward to let elena top i’d apologize for that joke but i’m really not sorry because it’s true), and when i say it was egged on by the crew, that’s because they refused to let the love triangle die back in season 4 when it should have.

they insisted on stringing stelena fans along, dropping little bread crumbs to keep them invested, like dreams of a future where they were married and revealing that stefan was also a doppelganger and he and elena were descended from a pair of star-crossed lovers (a plot that ultimately went nowhere, to no one’s great surprise), and then fucking like. julie plec turned around and threw nina under the bus after she chose not to extend her contract and pretended that stelena might have happened again if she hadn’t left the show, which....i mean frankly i wouldn’t put it past her, but it would have been shitty writing. then again, she thought having a vampire pregnancy where a uterus was magically transplanted from a witch into a vampire that could somehow......carry the babies to term.... made sense and was a good way to accomodate candice’s RL pregnancy rather than like literally ANYTHING else, soooooo. but anyway julie saying that around like, end of s6 sparked off a new wave of nina hate and elena hate and ship wars bc they SEers took it as ‘confirmation’ that stelena was REALLY meant to be endgame and it was all just a hot fucking mess

another thing is that, while tvd was in its prime before the anti/purity culture shit started picking up any real steam, there was still this pervasive attitude throughout the fandom that if you liked Damon, you were A Bad Person. liking damon was apparently grounds for insults and harassment, and apparently he was The Worst Person on the Show even though literally nothing he does on screen is any worse than shit we know stefan has done (and frankly every other vampire too, but i mention stefan specifically because he was always held up--in the show but especially in the fandom--as the Good Brother while damon was the Bad One, and if you liked damon more then that had to mean your morals were dodgy and you clearly couldn’t appreciate what a heroic and saintly figure dear stefan was and....oops, i’m sorry, my salt keeps leaking -cough-).

meanwhile klaus quickly became a fandom darling despite not even really having much of a redemption arc (on tvd anyway, he just became more ‘affably evil’ as the show went on and more inclined to work with the main characters rather than try to kill them; i have no idea what went on over on his show, though), and like i can 100% appreciate liking villains and not caring that they do dodgy villainous shit, even just liking them bc they’re hot and wanting them to kiss a main character bc they have insanely good chemistry (yes i ship klaroline, no i won’t apologize for it, they could have been Really Great), it’s just really the double standard that gets me.

and all of this, incidentally, required ignoring some truly gross shit stefan was responsible for wrt his relationship with elena, that frankly it has always bothered me never really got addressed in the show. i get why elena herself would never be able to actually call him on it, but the fact is that he stalked her for months after he first saw her and thought she was katherine (meanwhile it only took damon .5 seconds to realize she was someone else entirely, but that’s another topic entirely), and then he deliberately inserted himself into her life because, in his words, ‘i have to know her’. he never gave a thought to how his presence in her life might affect her (or rather, he did, and tormented himself about it in his internal monologue, but never let this actually dissuade him from disrupting her life), and elena would wind up blaming herself for every tragedy that befell her friends and loved ones as a result of getting mixed up in vampire bullshit even though none of it was her fault--she literally blamed herself for existing but most of the fandom didn’t give a fuck about that lmfao--and stefan did shit like find out that she was adopted and then withhold this information from her until she got pissed about another secret he was keeping (her resemblence to katherine) and drop it on her to try and distract her from her very reasonable anger, and like... i should stop before this becomes a whole rant about how much i hate stefan fucking salvatore, but the point is, he did a lot of really sketchy shit he never answered for and elena never really took him to task for, and the fandom just kept eating up his insistence that he was the Good Brother and therefore he deserved to have elena, and if she didn’t want him anymore it was because she was a heinous bitch who didn’t deserve him.

uh.....i think i got off track there. and there’s probably a lot of shit i missed, like i think i was incandescent with rage for most of seasons 5 and 6 so i missed a lot of the interfandom shit cause i was too busy being increasingly pissed off at the show itself, but if nothing else this should give you an idea of how much of a goddamn cesspit the fandom was while the show as in its prime. there’s a reason both the show and the fandom have such a lousy reputation lmfao.

[hereticbound-a]

@screamsfate​ asked about a fandom that isn’t open and accepting

American Horror Story.

Easy. I tried for literal years to break into the AHS rpc, and the cliques were insane. If you didn’t know precisely how they worked, or shared the exact same views, then there wasn’t even any point in trying. Game of Thrones was a very close second, for pretty similar reasons. Y’all thought the ship wars in SPN were bad. Nothing on GoT.

[certifiedceraunophile]

Hey Srishti!

For the Salty Asks Game: 7, 14, 16 (TVD), and 20!

Go forth and declare your most salty and sweet opinions!

Hiiiiii GABBY 💜

Alright you want the shade + salt, Imma just be that bitch real quick and go OFF.

7. Is there anything you used to like but can’t stand now?

oh lmao I wouldnt have been able to understand this question yesterday, but like today I was again hunting scenes for gifs, and I found that Marcel actually holds no appeal to me, in fact, If Elijah decided to slap his head off, I wouldnt have minded at all. Also I was a forwood shipper at the time but now I look at them and have this inexplicable urge to scratch something.

14. Unpopular opinion about your fandom?

OK might get whacked around for this, but there is this one VERY prevalent image or like characterization Klaus gets in the fanon part of this fandom I absolutely cannot stand and somehow that is always the most popular characterization and I'm just like babes, please leave the crazy alone, why tf are you trying to tame him?? we don't need that, go and stan matt or something if you wanna "redeem" this man into a new "good" man who Caroline brings into her "light" like ok, fair, but where is the appeal?? fuck shit up please, Imma need that man to stay psychotic and murderous ok, I cannot stand Klaus who strays from evil to moral and just territory bc of Caroline, show me Caroline who strays from her morality bc of Klaus goddamnit but then again this is just me and my need for shithead Klaus plucking out a heart for fun with one hand and drawing Caroline in with the other for a sweet kiss, so as you said this is just my opinion, and anybody who is into the redeeming arc is obviously just as valid as me in stanning Klaus and I am glad their muse found the inspiration to make their vision come true.

16.If you could change anything in the show, what would you change?

Gabby Kinda offended that you even asked this question when I have been screaming at random strangers on the internet for MONTHS now that I will rather sacrifice oreos [and I love these mfs harder than I did my last bf so mind you this be a BIG Statement right there] than accept the baby plot as my personal canon, I legit wanted Hayley to a) die or b) die and preferably at Klaus hands thanks.

20.What is the purest ship in the fandom?

(I have already answered this so I'll just copy paste the answer!)

Josh and Aiden?? Bonnie and Enzo I think?? idk I dont actually care about pure ships lmao like sure theyre cute and all but I cant get invested in one yk, nothing much to invest in when it's already all perfect and *pure*

this is the ask game

[flashfuture]

i used to ship dickbabs lmao but now im just like,,, cool with it? i dont ship dickkory either but im open to it?? and now i just kinda stopped shipping either bc im sick of the salt.

p.s i started shipping korybabs. character development xoxo

Lol yeah I used to be in the TVD and OauT fandom so shipping wars are an old hat to me I never mind the salt

But yeah I’ll always be more of a DickKory shipper it’s a favorite of mine.

Ayy we love character development.

[lilulo-12fanfiction]

Not Alone- Dean Winchester x Reader

This was requested by @skarsgardandredmayne​ with the following prompts:

31. I fucked up 

73. Oh, You’re Ticklish

So the prompts took me someplace unexpected. I hope you enjoy this!

As always likes, comments, reblogs, etc are appreciated. Please let me know if you would like to be tagged in my SPN stories. I also write for Avengers, TVD, The Originals, The Flash & Arrow. 

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Now: Your heart was pounding in your ears as you ran through the warehouse. You felt the cold tingles traveling your body as you willed your heart and mind to slow down. You couldn’t think straight like this. You had been desperate to prove your worth to Dean Winchester and decided to hunt what you, Sam and Dean thought was one shifter, but it turned out to be a group of 3. You wanted to show him you were a good hunter. You weren’t a liability. You were good enough. 

You had killed the first shifter with ease. The second one had been more of a challenge. Now? You were out of silver bullets and out of luck. You hated yourself for having to call him. You ducked behind a pile or rubble. You felt a tear slip out of your eye and you hastily wiped it away. You could hear the sleep in his voice.

“Sweetheart it’s 1am. Why the hell are you calling me and not here in the room asleep?”

“Dean?!” He could heat the fear dripping from your voice. “I fucked up...really bad. I’m sorry...you were right...” you had to take a deep breath. “You were right about everything. This isn’t your fault. Please don’t blame yourself.”

“Whoa whoa whoa...what’s going on? Where are you?”

“The warehouse.” You whispered. “There were 3 of them. I got two, but I’m out of bullets and I can’t find my silver dagger. He knocked it out of my hand and it’s too dark. Please just know that I care about you so much.”  The three of you had figured out that night where the shifters were camping out. You had decided to take the night to rest up and go at them fresh the next day. When Dean made a comment to you about making sure you had your shit together you had steeled yourself and made the decision to do this without him and Sam just to prove the point.

“Jesus Y/N...wait, don’t you say goodbye to me! I’m on my way.” You heard him yell out “Sammy!” before he hung up. At least you got to talk to him. You didn’t know if he would make it in time. You were stealthy when you were on your game, but a terrified you was clumsy and you knew your time was up when a pile of pipes clattered to the ground. You took off down the outer edge of the warehouse. If you could get outside you had a better chance. More room to run and more places to hide. As you approached the door you felt a hand grip the back of your hair and slam your head into the wall. Your vision blurred and everything faded to black. 

12 Months Ago:

You felt Sam wrap his arms around your shoulder as Dean lit the pyre. You and your brother had been a hunting team like the Winchester boys. Your father had worked often with John Winchester. You and your brother had carried on the tradition with John’s sons. 

The four of you had been gutting a particularly nasty vampire nest. Your brother bad gotten cocky and while he was mouthing off to one, another one ripped his throat out. You and Dean couldn’t get to him in time. You had beheaded the vampire that had killed your brother while Dean and Sam took out the other 3. Now he was gone. Your father was gone. You were an orphan and all alone. Hot tears fell down your cheeks.

  “I’m so sorry sweetheart, he was a good man.” Dean has muttered as he came to you and Sam. The two of you had a love-hate relationship. He loved to tease you-and you hated how much you loved it. The flirtation was fierce.

“Y/N- Dean and I talked, we want you to come stay with us at the bunker. We have plenty of room and this way you won’t be off on your own.” You looked over at Dean, but he had the face of a skilled poker player. You couldn’t tell if they had agreed upon it or if Sam had insisted on it. You and Sam were good friends. You knew Sam wanted you around, you couldn’t tell with Dean.

“Okay. But only for a little while.”

8 Months Ago

“C’mon sweetheart. Take me down. Fight me. You’re a big bad hunter right? You can fight demons, wendigos and everything else that goes bump in the night. You can’t take on me?”

He was goading you. It was his favorite past time. Well that and flirting mercilessly with you when you both were drinking, usually as an apology for criticizing you on cases. He was extra hard on you. You had heard Sam admonish him for it. Dean always blew it off.

Right now, he was frustrating you. He knew he was getting under your skin. He resided there as of late. He knew getting you going would make you sloppy. He easily caught you as you lunged at him in the gym located in the bunker. He easily caught your leg and before you knew it, you were flat in your back with the wind knocked out of you.

He had a smirk on his smug face and a glint in his green eyes. You couldn’t help but admire the crinkle of skin next to his eyes when he thought something was funny. He always smiled with his eyes. You weren’t sure if it was the man hovering above you or the impact on the mats that cost you your ability to breath.

“Sweetheart you have to do better than that If you’re going to best me.” He leaned down to whisper in your ear. As his hand ghosted the skin of your stomach you squirmed with an involuntary giggle.

“Oh...are you ticklish?” The mischief in his eyes gave him away. He had you pinned to the mat with his knees on each side of your hips and your wrists pinned above your head with one hand. You knew he was strong, but you didn't expect him to be able to hold you down so easily. Maybe it was because you didn't mind it.

"Dean- please don't." you begged for her mercy. Luckily just before he was able to deny you, Sam had walked in effectively dumping cold water on the interaction. From that day forward, Dean never gave up the opportunity to tickle you just a little bit any time he had the opportunity to torture you.

5 Months Ago

You sat in the library reading one of the random books you had grabbed from off of the shelf. The boys were off on a vampire hunt, after your brother, you weren't ready to revisit that wound so you decided to stay behind. Dean had sent Castiel to stay at the bunker with you. Why he thought you couldn't handle yourself, you didn't quite understand. You and your brother had split up on plenty of occasions and you were still standing. His lack of faith in you was starting to grate on your nerves. You would get ready to give him a piece of your mind but then he would give you these intense looks with his sea green eyes and you'd back down and agree to whatever terms he set. Sam couldn't get over it. Any time he gave the mere suggestion that you step back and let them handle something you went up one side of him and down the other.  With Dean...you just couldn't and part of you hated him for it.

"Y/N?" Cas' voice pulled you out of your thoughts. You jumped at the sound of his gravely voice. "I apologize for startling you. I just wanted to make sure you were alright."

"Yeah...I'm fine. Why?" He stared at you intently. Cas had a way of making you feel that he could see right through you.

"Well I know it's not really normal for you to skip out on the action. Dean mentioned that this particular case might bring up some memories for you." You took a breath and closed your eyes to compose yourself. The truth was, you couldn't get the image of your brother's lifeless body out of your head. You knew you would be distracted if you went, you would be a liability. Cas put his hand on your shoulder.

"He wasn't wrong. I just...it's been a year since I lost him and it's still so fresh. I feel like I can't breath any time I think about him. With them hunting vampires, I just couldn't.  I didn't want to be distracted. I didn't want them to have to save my ass because I couldn't keep it together. I didn't want to prove Dean right about being a liability." You could feel the back of your throat constricting. You were desperate to hold your tears back. You dug deep and looked up at Castiel. He had his head tilted slightly to the left as he studied you.

"Y/N...Dean doesn't see you as a liability. In fact, I've never heard Dean say one disparaging thing about you. He admires you." You scoffed.

"Thanks Cas for being here. I appreciate it. I think I'm going to go lay down for a bit." He pulled his hand from your shoulder and watched curiously as you headed to your little corner of the bunker.

2 Months Ago

You choked as you took a sip of your drink. You watched as Dean's eyes crinkled as he watched you. "Yeah...that is straight Jack Daniels...not a drop of coke in sight." You and Dean had just finished a salt and burn. A "milk run" as Dean had put it. Sam had needed some space from everyone. Every once in a while, one of the three of you just needed some room to breath. Since it was an easy case, Sam stayed behind to catch up on some sleep. The ghoul case you had finished prior had taken a lot out of him. Plus you were certain if he had to listen to you and Dean bicker in the close quarters of the Impala he might murder you both.

"I thought you were tougher than that." he laughed as you smacked him in the arm. You felt him pinch your side and you jumped away and laughed. He studied your face for a moment. It wasn't often he saw you genuinely happy, not since your brother had died. His death was a constant burden on your mind.. "You should do that more often."

“Almost choke?” You grinned.

“Laugh...smile. You light the place up sweetheart. Look, I know it’s been a hard year. God knows I know how hard it is. But he would want you to let go, to really be happy. You deserve it. I know you blame yourself...but it wasn’t your fault.” 

You studied his face. It was rare that Dean expresses genuine emotion. It was rare that Dean wasn’t giving you a hard time. The mention of your brother had you rapidly blinking for a moment to compose yourself. You felt the intensity of his gaze increase. Finally you met his eyes again.

“Thanks Dean. I know you’re right...about him wanting me to be happy. I promise I’m trying. Being with you and Sam helps. I didn’t plan on sticking around this long; but the truth is, I can’t imagine leaving. You guys have become my family. I couldn’t do this alone.” He put his hand over yours as it rested on the bar and squeezed it.

“You don’t have to. We ARE your family. Me, Sammy and Cas. We got you Y/N. Your place is with us. You are not alone.” You felt your heart rate quicken. His damn eyes got you every time. It was the little crinkles in the corners.

The two of you spent the night drinking and telling funny stories about your brothers. It was a good night. It was the most fun you had in a long time. As you both stumbled back to the motel Dean took your hand in his and pulled you to him. His hand tangled in the back of your hair and he kissed you. 

He captured your bottom lip in his teeth before exploring your mouth with his tongue as his other hand cupped your face. You had the lapels of his canvas jacket gripped in your hands. After a few moments sense took over your brain. As much as you wanted this, he was drunk. Sober Dean wouldn’t do this, so you pulled away and he studied your face with questioning eyes.

“We shouldn’t Dean. We’re drunk. I don’t want you to regret anything.” You thought you saw a look of hurt cross his eyes.

“Right. You’re right.” He stifly opened the door and you followed him into the room. He didn’t say another word to you that night.

The next morning, whatever warmness that had developed between the two of you had frosted over. Maybe you had been wrong about him having regrets.

“Dean- about last night...”

“It’s fine. No regrets right?” His voice had a little snap to it. You stared at the back of his head with shock. The ride back to the bunker was painfully quiet. The frost between the two of you grew from there.

A week ago

“Dammit Y/N!” Dean slammed the motel room door. Sam got to work at digging the bullet out of your shoulder. The three of you had been after a demon. You saw the gun before Dean did. You ran and shoved him out of the way. The bullet would most likely have been a fatal shot had you not pushed him out of the way.

“You should be thanking me for saving your ass! You didn’t see the gun.”

“Maybe I would be paying better attention if I wasn’t worried about making sure you didn’t get yourself killed!”

“Excuse you. I was hunting well before I met you. I don’t need you to protect me.”

“If I didn’t look out for you, you’d be dead by now! You’re off of your game and you’re a liability. You’re reckless with your own life. You don’t care what happens to you. Since your brother died.”

“Dean...” Sam’s tone was warning.

“No Sammy. Enough. I can’t watch you lose someone else. You may have been a good hunter. But you’re not anymore. Not like this. Not when you act like you have something to prove. I don’t need your death on my shoulders. There’s enough blood on my hands.” Dean stormed out of the room. You sat blinking back tears. So much for being where you belonged.

Now You could hear their voices, but it was impossible to open your eyes. It was like they were lined with lead. 

“Cas if you healed her why isn’t she awake?” Dean’s voice was frantic.

“It was a pretty serious head wound and then the stab wound to her stomach was deep. She lost a lot of blood. She just needs some time.”

“I said horrible things to her after our last hunt. That’s why she did this. I didn’t even mean it! I was just so damn scared when she took that bullet for me. She has to know I’m sorry.”

“Dean...” Sam’s soothing voice echoed as you fell back to sleep. A few hours later you groaned as you stirred awake.

“Y/N...sweetheart. Open your eyes.” You felt Dean’s calloused hand run over your forehead and through your hair.

“You found me.” Your voice was horse. You blinked a few times to pull him into focus. “I was so stupid. I’m so sorry. I just wanted to show you I could still do it.”

“Shhh. Don’t you apologize. If I hadn’t lost it on you, this wouldn’t have happened. I was afraid of loosing you and I took it out on you. I’ve been taking it out on you since you turned me down.”

“Oh my God you’re dumber than I am. I didn’t turn you down. I just thought you were drunk and would regret it." The way he was looking at you took your breath away.

"Sweetheart I could never regret anything with you except for the way I acted." He helped you sit up on your bed. You looked around, they had gotten you back to the bunker. "When we got to that warehouse, the shifter had you hanging by your wrists, blood was dripping down the side of your head. They knew I was coming for you and they wanted to make you suffer in front of us. It was one of the worst moments in my life. The idea of not bringing you home. Of not listening to you sing to yourself when you make coffee in the morning, of you not calling me out on my shit and giving me a hard time, it was too much to take. They didn't know Sammy was there, and he got him from behind right after he stabbed you in the gut. If it were for Cas...well...we wouldn't be having this conversation." You threw your arms around his neck and squeezed him.

"I'm sorry Dean. I shouldn't have gone off like that. I know better. I was just so determined to show you I was still as good as I was before my brother. I was determined to prove that I wasn't a burden." Your hot tears hit his neck and you felt his hand cradle the back of your head.

"You are NOT a burden and you're an excellent hunter. We all have off days, especially after going through loss. God knows I've had my fair share of off moments and mistakes. I shouldn't have thrown it in your face. I was just trying to push you so you wouldn't ever put yourself in the line of fire for me again. I'm so sorry." You pulled back to study his face, he smiled at you and wiped the tears from your eyes.

"There isn't anything you could ever do to push me away." Before he could respond you pressed your lips to his. It took a moment for the shock to wear off and then he was kissing you back. You both jumped back when you heard Sam clear his throat.

"I was just peaking in to check on Y/N. I'm glad to see you're awake. You really gave us a scare." He smiled at both of you. "Oh...and it's about time guys." He walked out of the room chuckling.

"Y/N...I'm not great at relationships. Every single one I've had ended in one way or another because of this life."

"That's what makes you so perfect for me. Because I've dealt with the same thing. But we're both in this life. We're in this together." Dean pressed a light kiss to your lips.

"I promise you...I will do everything in my power to make this work. But there's plenty of time for all of this. You should rest. Slide over." You shifted your body to the left and Dean climbed into your bed with you and wrapped an arm around your shoulder and pulled you into him. You fell back to sleep listening to the steady beat of his heart.

[tofeelthecold]

Open to any muse in the TVD, TO, and Legacies fandom. Mutuals only.

Sunnydale was gone. It simply didn’t exist anymore and with it’s destruction so was the hellmouth. All of this left Buffy and the others scattered around the globe as they tried to keep up with leads about new places of interest all the while trying to live their own lives. Buffy had spent much of her time travelling, seeing different places. The only reason she was even here was because Giles wanted her to check out some of the rumors he’d been hearing from others. They were concerns but having lived in Sunnydale she always took rumors with a grain of salt. 

Moving to a table Buffy sat, finding it easier to observe before jumping in head first. She didn’t like to accuse people of things before she was certain. This was also a good way for her to try and blend in, sitting and having a drink or a meal at one of the local bars and restaurants. Today was one of those days where she was just going to observe what was going on and see if there was any need for concern.

[livlepretre]

I love your writing (absolutely beautiful, and so emotionally charged, I’m better now for reading them) your blog and and opinions. I was happy when I found a fellow B/S/A Shipper, I even watched the great bc of you (which was amazing so thank you) and now I find out you watched OUAT and don’t like CS? Just ❤️

Awwww this is so incredibly nice of you, anon! And also it’s affirming that I’m not rambling into the void, haha (hmmm and now I’m realizing that I’ve been voicing my nervous laughter all over my tumblr WHOOPS). And just GAHHHH THANK YOU FOR READING SO SO SO GLAD THE WORK RESONATES WITH YOU 💙💙💙💙

And the world needs more BSA shippers. Why is this not the standard btvs ship??? It should be. (and HUZZAH on the Great, I hope now is all bliss!!!)

You know, I say all the time that I don’t like fluff and I don’t read or write it, but ouat is like my safety blanket fandom, and swanfire/anything to do with Bae is like my safety blanket ship/beloved character. I don’t participate a lot in the fandom anymore, because I felt... really betrayed by the decision to kill Neal, in terms of the implications of taking someone who’s only known abandonment and abuse and just... never letting them survive that and get to grow and find happiness... and also in a less emotional way, but certainly a much more enraged bee way, I was angry that the narrative structure of the show had been tossed aside for... Captain Hook? Gross. Like, the curse was made TO FIND BAE. Literally all the wild stuff that happens in the flashbacks is over Bae. I LOVED how quickly Neal won me over in Tallahassee (back when I thought it was swanthief! ha!) and loved it even more when I discovered that Baelfire, who I thought was THE BEST, was actually Neal all along. So we have a story about two kids who for various reasons grew up alone and abandoned who find a family in each other. Why was that so beautiful and why was that just thrown out the window?????? To make room for a SHIP???? (You’ve read my fics, so you probably have gleaned that I severely dislike lazy writing that shoos a character away to make way for some other ship, like a certain tvd ship I’ve mentioned before on this blog that resulted in Tyler Lockwood getting basically annihilated). Anyway, I do return to ouat when I’m feeling very low, vindictively sorting out all cs wheresoever I encounter it. (And because i can’t resist mentioning it I have NEVER understood why Emma, A GROWN WOMAN, would go from various much more mature attachments to HOOK. He’s like the terrible boyfriend decision you make when you’re sixteen!! How do you go from the intense emotional connection with Neal that spans decades and encompasses total understanding and ultimately forgiveness to someone with such abysmal EQ? It’s like she’s having a mid-life crisis???? What???) (okay I’m a salty critter I’m so sorry you put a dash of salt in my ask box and I came back with like a salt mine!!) (I can’t help it!!)

[hellsbellschime]

You know what’s weird? The amount of people tearing into both Sansa and Dany because they are judging them based on 2019 earth ‘wokeness’. It’s like when people in the TVD/TO fandom slammed the characters as horrible for not being perfect saintly humans- when they’re vampires. So what if Dany is going to salt and scorch the earth? So what if Sansa is showing a ruthless spine of steele? I don’t need my characters to be Disney princesses. Morally ambiguous characters are amazing.

Dude facts, especially since we’re talking about Game of freaking Thrones here. You win or you die, there is no middle ground.