#turn washington s spies

[ijuststanlafayette]

So was nobody gonna tell me that the Crypt that Benedict Arnold was buried in has been turned into a fucking kindergarten and the grace stone of one of Americas first war hero’s and greatest traitor is kept next to the class pet.

[jtownraindancer]

Ace's TURИ For Burn Rewatch: Who By Fire

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annalett yuri do you see the vision

[acrossthewavesoftime]

And sadly, this is an ongoing issue in historical fiction, many years after The Patriot. TURN: Washington's Spies, which is a great deal more recet, did the same thing with their depiction of General Sir Henry Clinton.

An solidly middle-aged man in uniform, there was apparently not much room to make him look what to some 21st century eyes might pass as "effeminate", so he receives an implied affair with the fashion-conscious hairdresser of Margaret Shippen and friends, Freddie.

I think I need not elaborate on why that doesn't sit right with me, even more so because the historical Clinton was nothing like this gregarious, unashamedly gay (both for handsome hairdressers and in the old-fashioned sense of the word) on-screen portrayal who occasionally oversees a British defeat in a badly-staged battle from afar; historically, the man had a spotless prior military record from the 7 Years' War, 11 biological children by 3 women (not counting his de facto adoptive son John), because of whom he repeatedly threatened to desert as he was homesick for them, and had difficulties socialising with others to the point he described himself as a "shy bitch" in his diary.

None of this information is particularly hard to find; Clinton has a thorough, if somewhat old, biography to his name that can be accessed digitally, and free of chage via archive.org.

As a non-American consuming American media set in this period, what irks me most is that the tactic of using these harmful stereotypes of the "effeminate" or even outright gay man as shorthand for lacking in moral values, strength and cleverness on the battlefield, persists, both because, to repeat myself here, these stereotypes are harmful and indicative of issues our modern-day society has with its image of men and masculinity, and because it's narratively unappealing.

"The bad guys are the bad guys because they shave and use perfume, and maybe also kiss other men!!1!!!" Just isn't a convincing antagonist or villain backstory for me. As an addition to this, yes to OP's point that this way of treating male characters also shines a light on modern-day misogyny.

Furthermore, it justs shows the need of US filmmakers to 'justify' the actions of the same set of male historical figures who verifiably weren't that great as people (or larger-than-life flawless altruistic freedom fighters) after all (think e. g. of slavery, to name but one important point here). Setting a British antagonist whose character is compelling while also displaying posittive traits against Washington and co., one might run the risk of 'devaluing' the Founding Fathers by setting up a character who would make for an equally appealing alternative to them.

TURN tried to work more into that direction with the sympathetic and kind British Major Edmund Hewlett, but failed by making him a) somewhat incompetent in military matters (as compared of course to Patriot characters of a similar rank) and b) a decidedly fictional character, when a great deal of his personality traits were actually lifted from the real life Lieutenant-Colonel John Graves Simcoe, whose name then in turn (hah) gets slapped on a comedically evil, and entirely fictional British arch-villain-type whose main goal in life is to be evil and sadistic, just because he can.

Ideally, filmmakers would at last be courageous and attempt more nuanced displays of the Revolutionary War, bidding adieu to the old "Good Guys vs. Bad Guys" narrative and attempt a more nuanced portrayal of the period and its people, who were no more than that; people. People who, as we all are, were not without fault and had their own reasons to participate; some out of ideological conviction, others for some sort of personal gain, and yet others because being the son of a second son and yet expected to keep up a certain living standard is hard, so you need to take up a job and make money somehow in order to raise your kids with the financial security you never had at their age because your own parents weren't exactly competent keeping the family money together; but the crucial thing is, all of these kinds of people existed, and existed on both sides. Nuance matters.

all the ladies love that I have so many thoughts on the vilification of male effeminacy in popular thought about the American Revolution

it's soooo sexy that those thoughts are half-formed because my research specialty is actually 19th-century social history (with focuses on women's, queer, and dress history)

I'm actually very hot for doing all of this, in fact

[macaron-n-cheese]

The AmRev fandom definitely has subgroups. I'll name a few I feel like I've seen. Are there any I missed? I'd say that the Hamilton fandom is separate since it's so big but there's definitely overlap.

• 1776: This subgroup enjoys 1776 and is focused on the politics during the war and founding fathers. 1776 is like the second evolution of Hamilton because the group members have witnessed those fandom horrors. Now the fandom horrors created by the 1776 subgroup are tastefully cringe but still historical /lh.

• Lams: "Nothing lasts forever" well Lams has been a thing since the dawn of time /j. What I mean is that this subgroup is always going strong! They are powerful.

• Rev War: Focuses on the military side of the revolution. This subgroup loves battles and generals, especially the more obscure stuff. Washington's aides are also included!

• Federal Era: This subgroup focus on politics of the 1790s to 1820s. The Democratic- Republicans rule this subgroup since Jefferson Madison and Monroe were all presidents. John Adams lurks...

• 2020-2022 core group: This subgroup used to dominate AmRev tumblr. Many are still active but usually don't focus on AmRev in posts anymore.

• TURN Washington's Spies: This subgroup enjoys TURN :) and all the little things in it (except Benedict Arnold)

Tag which subgroup(s) you're in! Feel free to add on btw! :)

[dreaminginthedeepsouth]

LETTERS FROM AN AMERICAN

August 8, 2024

Heather Cox Richardson

Aug 09, 2024

Fifty years ago, on August 9, 1974, Richard M. Nixon became the first president in U.S. history to resign.

The road to that resignation began in 1971, when Daniel Ellsberg, who was at the time an employee of the RAND Corporation and thus had access to a top-secret Pentagon study of the way U.S. leaders had made decisions about the Vietnam War, leaked that study to major U.S. newspapers, including the New York Times and the Washington Post. 

The Pentagon Papers showed that every president from Harry S. Truman to Lyndon B. Johnson had lied to the public about events in Vietnam, and Nixon worried that “enemies” would follow the Pentagon Papers with a leak of information about his own decision-making to destroy his administration and hand the 1972 election to a Democrat. 

The FBI seemed to Nixon reluctant to believe he was being stalked by enemies. So the president organized his own Special Investigations Unit out of the White House to stop leaks. And who stops leaks? Plumbers. 

The plumbers burglarized the office of Ellsberg’s psychiatrist in California, hoping to find something to discredit him, then moved on to bigger targets. Together with the Committee to Re-elect the President (fittingly dubbed CREEP as its activities became known), they planted fake letters in newspapers declaring support for Nixon and hatred for his opponents, spied on Democrats, and hired vendors for Democratic rallies and then scarpered on the bills. Finally, they set out to wiretap the Washington, D.C., headquarters of the Democratic National Committee, in the fashionable Watergate office complex.

Early in the morning of June 17, 1972, Watergate security guard Frank Wills noticed that a door lock had been taped open. He ripped off the tape and closed the door, but on his next round, he found the door taped open again. Wills called the police, who arrested five men ransacking the DNC’s files. 

The White House immediately denounced what it called a “third-rate burglary attempt,” and the Watergate break-in gained no traction before the 1972 election, which Nixon and Vice-President Spiro Agnew won with an astonishing 60.7% of the popular vote. 

But Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, two young Washington Post reporters, followed the sloppy money trail back to the White House, and by March 1973 the scheme was unraveling. One of the burglars, James W. McCord Jr., wrote a letter to Judge John Sirica before his sentencing claiming he had lied at his trial to protect government officials. Sirica made the letter public, and White House counsel John Dean immediately began cooperating with prosecutors.

In April, three of Nixon’s top advisors resigned, and in May the president was forced to appoint former solicitor general of the United States Archibald Cox as a special prosecutor to investigate the affair. That same month, the Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, informally known as the Senate Watergate Committee, began nationally televised hearings. The committee’s chair was Sam Ervin (D-NC), a conservative Democrat who would not run for reelection in 1974 and thus was expected to be able to do the job without political grandstanding.

The hearings turned up the explosive testimony of John Dean, who said he had talked to Nixon about covering up the burglary more than 30 times, but there the investigation sat during the hot summer of 1973 as the committee churned through witnesses. And then, on July 13, 1973, deputy assistant to the president Alexander Butterfield revealed the bombshell news that conversations and phone calls in the Oval Office had been taped since 1971.

Nixon refused to provide copies of the tapes either to Cox or to the Senate committee. When Cox subpoenaed a number of the tapes, Nixon ordered Attorney General Elliot Richardson to fire him. In the October 20, 1973, “Saturday Night Massacre,” Richardson and his deputy, William Ruckelshaus, refused to execute Nixon’s order and resigned in protest; it was only the third man at the Justice Department—Solicitor General Robert Bork—who was willing to carry out the order firing Cox.

Popular outrage at the resignations and firing forced Nixon to ask Bork—now acting attorney general—to appoint a new special prosecutor, Leon Jaworski, a Democrat who had voted for Nixon, on November 1. On November 17, Nixon assured the American people that “I am not a crook.”

Like Cox before him, Jaworski was determined to hear the Oval Office tapes. He subpoenaed a number of them. Nixon fought the subpoenas on the grounds of executive privilege. On July 24, 1974, in U.S. v. Nixon, the Supreme Court sided unanimously with the prosecutor, saying that executive privilege “must be considered in light of our historic commitment to the rule of law. This is nowhere more profoundly manifest than in our view that 'the twofold aim (of criminal justice) is that guilt shall not escape or innocence suffer.'... The very integrity of the judicial system and public confidence in the system depend on full disclosure of all the facts….”

Their hand forced, Nixon’s people released transcripts of the tapes. They were damning, not just in content but also in style. Nixon had cultivated an image of himself as a clean family man, but the tapes revealed a mean-spirited, foul-mouthed bully. Aware that the tapes would damage his image, Nixon had his swearing redacted. “[Expletive deleted]” trended.

In late July 1974, the House Committee on the Judiciary passed articles of impeachment, charging the president with obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of Congress. Each article ended with the same statement: “In all of this, Richard M. Nixon has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States. Wherefore Richard M. Nixon, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office.”

And then, on August 5, in response to a subpoena, the White House released a tape recorded on June 23, 1972, just six days after the Watergate break-in, that showed Nixon and his aide H.R. Haldeman plotting to invoke national security to protect the president. Even Republican senators, who had not wanted to convict their president, knew the game was over. A delegation went to the White House to deliver the news to the president that he must resign or be impeached by the full House and convicted by the Senate.

In his resignation speech, Nixon refused to acknowledge that he had done anything wrong. Instead, he told the American people he had to step down because he no longer had the support he needed in Congress to advance the national interest. He blamed the press, whose “leaks and accusations and innuendo” had been designed to destroy him. His disappointed supporters embraced the idea that there was a “liberal” conspiracy, spearheaded by the press, to bring down any Republican president.

LETTERS FROM AN AMERICAN

HEATHER COX RICHARDSON

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COMFORT LIST

COMFORT CHARACTER(S): Mace Windu (Star Wars), Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars), Yoda (Star Wars), Percy Jackson (Percy Jackson), Milo Thatch (Atlantis: the Lost Empire), Elizabeth Bennet (Pride and Prejudice), Atticus Finch (To Kill a Mockingbird), Elphaba (Wicked), Penelope Featherington (Bridgerton), Christine Daaè (The Phantom of the Opera), Elsa (Frozen), Rose Dewitt Bukater (Titanic), Violet Sorrengail (Empyrean Series).

COMFORT MOVIE(S): Titanic (1997), Night at the Museum (2006), Lincoln (2012), Barbie (2023), Pride and Prejudice (2005), Star Wars: A New Hope (1997), Atlantis: the Lost Empire (2001), Coco (2017), Home Alone (1989), Rise of the Guardians (2012), The Princess Bride (1987), Mean Girls (2006), Anastasia (1997), Maleficent (2013), Little Women (2019), The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe (2005), The Prince of Egypt (1998).

COMFORT BOOK(S): The Percy Jackson and the Olympians Series (Rick Riordan), The Empyrean Series (Rebecca Yarros), The Unwanteds (Lisa McMann), To Kill A Mockingbird (Harper Lee), Divergent (Veronica Roth), Pride and Prejudice (Jane Austen), Sense and Sensibility (Jane Austen), Northanger Abbey (Jane Austen).

COMFORT SHOW(S): Bridgerton, Percy Jackson and the Olympians, Star Wars: the Clone Wars, Titanic: Blood and Steel, PBS’s Liberty’s Kids, Anne With an E, Turn: Washington’s Spies.

COMFORT SONG(S): The Man (Taylor Swift), Shake It Off (Taylor Swift), Irrelevant (P!nk), Dancing Queen (ABBA), I Hear a Symphony (Cody Fry), Born This Way (Lady Gaga), Ya-Ya (Beyoncé), no tears left to cry (Ariana Grande), Sign of the Times (Harry Styles), Here Comes The Sun (The Beatles).

COMFORT GAME(S): Mario Kart, Minecraft, Club Penguin Journey, The Sims.

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[ijuststanlafayette]

Guy’s is out lander worth it? Every show I watch i become obsessed with for at least a month and I need to know if its worth the inevitable lack of sleep. 

[jtownraindancer]

Ace's TURИ for Burn Rewatch: The Prodigal

[deathzgf]

i finished . turn : washington ' s spies 3 . 4 for the first time . and . now i ' m eating straight wasabi just to feel something

[queerquaintrelle]

Period Drama Appreciation Week 2024: Day 1 - Favourite TV show(s)

Harlots on Hulu (2017 - 2019).

TURN: Washington's Spies (2014 - 2017).

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[turnwashingtonsbaddies]

yo was wondering where you find your scenes. im tryna find some scenes of robert townsend but i dont have amc + or the series bought on anything so i was wondering if you had any like scene packs or links or whatever

yes I have a couple!!!

This is the main one that I use. It has a lot of screencaps from every episode of turn, so it is very clutch

Sometimes I'll also use youtube videos such as

Ian Kahn's own highlight reel

The John Andre Treason Cut

Clips that are posted by AMC on youtube

And then there's also good ol' fashioned google images, where I can usually find promo images of the characters and high quality shots from articles about the the episodes. For example, when I need to make a png of a character, i'll usually use the promo images because it's just them in front of a plain background.

[megs-mostly-past-random-fandoms]

Take Care

Based on this request: Ok, I am between Lafayette and Washington from Turn, but how about something with one of them taking care of his S/O (maybe she is just sick or was injured)

Here you are, lovely! *Familiar characters are NEVER mine!

Fandom: TURN: Washington's Spies

Warnings: Mentions of illness, it's a little short, but mostly pure, sweet fluff

Pairings/Characters: George Washington x fem!reader

You had to admit that you had missed this side of George. During the war, he was always gone so you rarely saw him but now he was home with you. That was something you were extremely grateful for in that moment. You were sick as a dog. The entirety of the Revolution, you managed to stay well and safe. You'd had nothing more than a mere cold. Now that he was home, your body decided to punish you. Fortunately for you, George was an excellent caregiver.

          "Really, George, you don't have to do this," you muttered, but he merely gave you that smile. The one he knew you melted for. The one that also said you weren't getting out of being pampered and taken care of. "I know I don't have to. I want to, my love. You were so strong while I was away and you always take care of me. Now it is my turn to return the favor. Whatever you need."

          "What I need is for you to rest, George. And to stop worrying about me." He simply shook his head again and helped you lie down. "I shall return with tea in a short while." You rolled your eyes with a smile as he left the room, muttering about how he'd better get someone else to help or that tea would be ruined. George evidently heard you because he laughed outside the now closed door.

          George spent the next three days caring for you. Anything you could even think about wanting or needing, George got it for you. Your only complaint was that you missed being close to him. It was your own doing as you made him sleep elsewhere while you were sick, but you still missed him holding you. And clearly he missed it as well. On the fourth night of your illness, after you had begun drifting off, you felt the bed move.

          Your eyes flew open and you gasped until you noticed it was only your husband. "What are you doing?" He shushed you and held you close. "George, you will make yourself ill." He looked at you with a pout. "I have missed my wife. I no longer care if I catch your illness. I've only just got you back and now I've been unable to be close to you again."

          His words made you swoon. To the outside world, he was General (now President) Washington. A leader of men and the strategic mind that lead them to victory. But to you, he was simply George. A loving, caring husband who did not always share what he felt, but when he did, it was tender words spoken softly between you. Gentle kisses to your forehead and slight squeezes to your hands. The George the world saw was a hero. The George you saw was so much more.          

"Very well, but do not blame me when you feel as lowly as I have." George chuckled at your statement as he helped you settle back down. He climbed in next to you, his arms instantly finding you and pulling you toward him. You let out a little sigh of joy. George pressed another kiss to your forehead as you rested your head on his shoulder and chest. "Rest well, my love," he whispered before blowing out the light. You snuggled closer to him. He would most likely be sick come morning, but neither of you cared. In his arms, you felt safe. You felt warm and cared for you. Being in George's arms was being home.

(a/n: I hope you like it! I chose Washington as I'd already written something similar with Lafayette.)

Forever Tags: @fizzyxcustard @supernatural4life2022

[acrossthewavesoftime]

Top 5 Graveses!

My Deer Friend, that is a fun ask!

Samuel "Sam" Graves (1713-1787). Tough on the outside, very soft on the inside, his personality has captured my research interest. Often portrayed as a nepotistic old choleric (which to some degree he was) in especially older literature on the American Revolutionary War, the man below the public persona of the admiral was the exact opposite. A caring man who appears to have been well liked by his sailors and the local people near his home, he was surprisingly open-minded when it came to what we might call women's rights, the importance of giving your children an education (something he openly chastised his brother about in letters, finding his nephews had not received enough schooling), and by all I was able to learn about the family, very good with young people. His personal tragedy was that he was childless due to a medical complication he was aware of, but he filled this void with his brother John's children and his second wife Margaret's orphaned niece, Elizabeth, who would take very much after Samuel, developing an interest in technology and ships. What never fails to strike me is how he helped protect Elizabeth's best friend Mary Anne, who may fall under the term queer, given she stated during her lifetime that she had no interest in men, from a forced marriage.

Margaret Graves (1728-1808). "Mrs Admiral", feared by many, loved ardently by her husband. So much so that rumour had it that it was she who wore the trousers in their relationship. A tough lady who was independently wealthy and had never planned on marrying at all to remain in control of her fortune, it took her all of ca. 6 months to decide that she wanted Samuel by her side permanently. She was by all accounts difficult, outspoken to the point of often deliberate rudeness, and one of the first bluestockings, being a frequent visitor to Elizabeth Montagu's London salon. In her sixties, she caused a stir in Bath for dancing at balls, which was frowned upon due to her age. She did not care.

John Graves Simcoe (1752-1806). Is it cheating? I don't think so. But he was named for Samuel Graves, and called "Infant Graves" by the same in a letter written to young Simcoe's father around the time of John Graves' christening. I found the Graves' through Simcoe, when many years ago I watched Turn: Washington's Spies and mostly remained watching on account of the delightfully evil ginger menace, John Graves Simcoe. The question "he can't have been that bad, can he?" (spoiler: he was absolutely not, rater the opposite, really) led to a research rabbit hole that ended with me finding out about Simcoe's supportive quasi-family which he found in his godfather Samuel, who helped raise him from the time he lost his father at age seven on, and supported his godson well into his thirties. Samuel viewed him as part of the family, and therefore, he can make this list!

Jane Graves (1666-1767). The mother of Samuel and his siblings, her own life appears to have been quite interesting from what little information we have. She seems to have married comparatively late, and to a significantly younger man at that; she was 46 or 47 when Samuel, her youngest, was born. When her husband died, she must have cared for Samuel's inheritance, and raised her son by herself. Looking at her life span alone, she must have been a very interesting person to talk to, given she lived to 100 or 101, a period spanning from the year of the Great Fire of London to the year the Townshend Acts were passed and Joachim Murat was born.

Richard "Dick" Graves (1757-1836). The enfant terrible of the family, living largely off his uncle's benevolence and will to promote him in the Navy. Badly educated, bad with money and so spectacularly bad with women that Elizabeth, his uncle's niece by his wife, loathed to even be in the same room as him (which ended Samuel's hope of getting the two involved with each other). "Dick" as the family called him with very likely the same undertone as in the famous Jane Austen quote on the late naval officer Dick Musgrove in Persuasion, had so little going for himself that the family sincerely hoped he would marry a rich woman, as that was his only chance of finding a settled life. He was, as they called it "shown" around at social events for that purpose. He did manage to bag an heiress, but their life together was unhappy, full of finanical struggles as both spent more money than they had, and assorted fights with Aunt Mrs Admiral, the Simcoes, the Admiralty and other assorted people. He even agreed to be the second in a duel once, while also being a Justice of the Peace. He must have been a troublesome man, but somehow strikes me as a little interesting for that matter.

[gracehosborn]

WIP Questions Tag

Thank you so much @sunset-a-story for the tag!

Going to answer for The American Icarus: Volume I for this one. May do another for Ink of Destruction later, we’ll see.

What was the first part of your WIP that you created?

I had originally written the first part of a prologue on a whim set the night before Hamilton’s duel with Burr (back when I thought having this story be in one novel was a feasible idea). But a few minutes later I scrapped this because I thought a prologue was stupid. Years later I have gone back and added a prologue, but now it’s in the form of a fictional letter to the reader wherein Alexander explains why he’s sitting down to write his “memoirs”.

If your story was a TV show, what would the intro song be?

I would actually love to have an original piece be composed. I just think that would be more fitting. In an ideal world, I’d love for the task to go to Lindsey Sterling.

Who are your favourite character(s) and why?

As most everyone in Volume I of TAI (and the rest of the series for that matter) are based off of real people, I’ll just be super predictable and say here that I of course find Hamilton super interesting. The man was complex, and getting to explore these complexities through a first-person narrative has been super fun. I get to be in his head and play around with all the gritty details in crafting motivations and stringing real events together into narrative form through his actions.

What other pieces of media could share a fan base with your WIP?

TURN: Washington’s Spies, Hamilton, potentially 1776, though I could see this being wide reaching.

What has been your biggest struggle while writing your WIP?

Oh God. The research, for starters (due in large part to my spite compelling me to go above and beyond what’s necessary), but being a history major who wants to specialize in early American history as it is, I find the struggle here to be more overwhelming than actually difficult. In terms of an actual difficulty, that would be the writing itself. As ironic as that sounds. Having TAI be framed as Hamilton sitting down 200 odd years after his death to write his memoirs means that I have to emulate Hamilton’s actual writing style and oof that’s hard. Also, Alexander Hamilton was very extroverted and I am simply Not That so dialogue is a pain in my ass. 😭

Are there any animals in your story?

Yep! Lots of horses will feature in TAI Volume I. And eventually some dogs (owned by generals Washington, Lee, Howe, and the Baron von Steuben).

How do your characters get around?

This is the 18th century. Everyone’s only options are: ride a horse, get a carriage or coach, procure a boat if on water, or walk. Lots of walking and riding feature here.

What part of your WIP are you working on right now?

I’ve been stuck on this one chapter for months that closes out Alexander’s time studying at King’s College as he decides to drop out to put all his focus towards the artillery company he has been granted command of. I’m super excited to get into Alexander’s time as an artillery captain but man this chapter. It’s the dialogue that’s holding me hostage I fear.

What aspects of your WIP do you think will draw people in?

Oh definitely the premise. If that doesn’t draw people’s attention, I’ll be super shocked. Another aspect I can think of would be the time that the novel spends on the American Revolution in a way that’s vivid and detailed. Beyond that, I’ll just say that name recognition is a powerful thing.

Tagging with no pressure: @kaylinalexanderbooks @meerawrites @thestarsfightagainstusmyfriend @almaprincess66 @rwwinton and anyone else who wants to jump on in.