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sillygoblinantics · 10 days ago
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ryuichirou · 4 years ago
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I saw one very stupid post on my dash about how snk is OBVIOUSLY nazi propaganda and trying to convert all of us into imperialists and white supremacists. tbh it’s not the first time I’ve seen that kind of stuff and probably won't be the last, but for some reason this time it gave me a lot of anxiety (I got wordy, I'mma need to send another ask, sorry)
(part 2) It's been more than half and hour and I still feel this awful sensation in my chest. It's just overall pretty fucked how to have something you hold dear being misinterpreted in the worst way possible, and I was just wondering what are your thoughts on this situation or how you deal with people claiming all sorts of awful shit.
(part 3) I imagine that as an artist some people probably direct their issues with snk towards you, 'cause I don't even post that much fanart and I've gotten anons "trying to educate me" on why this series is so wrong, after posting drawings. Of course, you don't have to reply, maybe the topic makes you anxious too and I don't want to bother you, so sorry for the depressing topic (。•́︿•̀。)
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Tiiish, I want to hug you, I’m really sorry that this happened to you. I hope you’re feeling a little bit better now.
Like we already mentioned a while ago, when we were talking about that darn article, after we read through it and did a little fact checking (and I mean it when I say a little, because there weren’t many facts to check), we stopped caring about it. It’s not research at all, just a manipulatively written speculation on Yam’s motives and worldview, but sadly, people easily believe these accusations because they hate SnK and want to find a valid reason to hate it and shit on its fanbase. Because “I hate it because it’s nazi propaganda” sounds much cooler than “I hate it because it’s popular”, doesn’t it?
It’s easier to ignore the article itself though, and it’s much harder not to think about tumblr posts or those Twitter threads that get very popular (although there are a lot of bots on twitter, trust me…), and it’s especially difficult to ignore it when it’s specifically directed at you. But the only thing that these people deserve is a good ol’ block and (if they’re getting too offensive and abusive) a report for harassment. The thing is, their opinion doesn’t matter: it won’t change SnK’s story, it won’t affect its success and popularity, it doesn’t affect anything other than our mood (temporarily lol). Because they aren’t critics who actually give a flying fuck about the subject matter, they’re just random assholes with a hateboner for SnK, who sit in their echochamber and discuss the same shit over and over again. And if they’re “fans” of the SnK, it’s just them “consuming it critically” 🙄 such a convenient phrase and so easy to abuse.
If we think about these accusations again… they’re so damn nonsensical, it’s almost amazing. I’m not going to reread it or to make a proper counterpoint article out of this ask, so this is just based on how we remember these accusations.
Like, what part of SnK approves and pushes the idea of imperialism in any way? When the entire idea of the story is that war is bad? When people like Onyankopon, whose homeland was invaded by Marley, exist? And it’s never portrayed as a good thing? Having only one country dominating the world’s situation is literally the main reason why everyone’s suffering??
And come to think of it, Isayama is one of the few manga artists to kind of sort of openly critique Japan: he literally drew Kiyomi losing her cool and drooling while thinking about all the profit and wealth she would get from the deal with Paradis. Why do people never talk about that? What is it, if not a critique of greedy and two-faced nature of people from Azumabito clan, who are heavily implied to represent Japan? I don’t read a lot of manga in general, but do you know how many mangakas I’ve seen who directly talked shit about Japan while being Japanese? Two. Excluding Isayama.
Isayama is clearly invested in the Western culture and he understands the World’s History. He understands that political relationships are complex and that there are no “bad” or “good” countries. I don’t want to make assumptions about how much perspective of the world’s relationships the average person from Japan has, but I still feel like Yams has a pretty good understanding of it. He did his research for the subject matter, and while it’s obviously not perfect, it’s clearly there.
These people also claim that SnK is anti-Korean and anti-Semitic, but if Hetalia had taught me anything, it is that if the story has or used to have any anti-Korean undertones, the Korean readers wouldn’t want to have anything to do with it. They would be the first people to ditch the manga, they would be the first people to critique SnK, and rightfully so. They burnt Uniqlo clothes, their overall domestic policy is pretty anti-Japanese, so there’re literally zero reasons for them not to destroy SnK if they see it as anti-Korean. But the size of the Korean SnK fandom suggests otherwise, doesn’t it.
And the “big noses = Jewish caricature” argument, seriously? How anti-Semitic can you get? Who the fuck looks at people and goes “oh, those have big noses, bet they’re caricature of Jews”?? Sorry I’m getting heated lol The argument about “Asian artists portray Westerners with prominent noses because that’s what we look like to them” has been done a lot of times, I’m not going to go over than again.
And god forbid Isayama to use Germany and Europe to draw a story where his characters are (approximately) Germans and Europeans! Let’s go fetch our pitchforks to punish Isayama for using their aesthetic to make his story look more believable and authentic, right? “Oh, those areas where they hold Eldians resemble places from real life”, like no shit???? Ofc they would??? That’s what references for making the story more grounded are used for??? If I were to write a story about a fictional place based on a real one that I don’t live in, I’d use some visual references to help me to make it more believable??? Why do I even need to explain that?
In my previous post I talked about the armbands and ghetto and stuff, but I’ll reiterate: even if there are thematic similarities, it doesn’t mean that the story mirrors our history. And it doesn���t mean that there is an analogy, since Eldian’s situation is quiiiite different than what Jewish people had to go through. It’s just thematic similarities. And it still doesn’t plant any specific idea in the reader’s head, other than “having people shoved into ghettos with 0 civil rights is a horrible thing”, and I can’t comprehend what’s anti-Semitic or imperialistic about it. Also I’m sorry, but nazis are not the only people who genocided a bunch of people, breaking news. Nor did they invent armbands. Same goes for Japan in WWII.
And now for my favourite argument: Erwin is nazi because his name is Erwin and he was born on the same day than some nazi guy died… I won’t even talk about why this idea is hilariously stupid, I just want to appreciate the level of nitpicking that’s going on here.
So… yeah. People who have nothing else to do but to complain about the show they hate don’t matter. And people who consider themselves a part of the SnK fandom and still say this bs (yep, there are people who do that) are huge hypocrites. The heck are they doing in this fandom then?? Of course, any story is up to interpretation, but this is so backwards?
Sorry for rambling so much… anyways. We’re happy enough not to encounter any hate related to this topic, but we think it’s because we ship Ereri and people already hate us for that, so the majority of shit we get is related to that, I guess we’re a lost cause for them. We’ll see if anything happens after this post though.
But once again, I’m very sorry that you had to go through this. Please remember that this isn’t personal at all, and people who harass strangers on the internet just want to flex their high moral ground while acting like complete assholes. You don’t have to explain anything to them, you don’t have to talk to them, you don’t have to listen to them or give them any attention. I hope you’ll never stumble upon anything like this; but if you ever do, please block them, don’t even bother reading their attempts at “educate” you. Isn’t worth it.
Please have a good day, Tish. And everyone who’s reading this reply.
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loveactivist · 6 years ago
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Tumblr. Staff. Policies.
Alright, everyone has heard so far about tumblrs new policy about allowing no adult content. Even though I run this simply writing blog where my page will not be affected that doesn’t mean I’m not gonna say that I think the tumblr staff is full of assholes and I shouldn’t stand up and sign petitions against the ban and in support of pages dealing with nsfw. (Please sign the petitions against Tumblrs new policy)
Tumblr has always been known for being the type of platform where you can scroll through your feed and find explicit shit come on, whether you wanted it to or not, and you just quickly scroll past it like nothing happened. But let’s be honest, that happens on every social media platform, just maybe not a full on porno coming on your feed. There’s an argument about how parents shouldn’t have to deal and worry about their young child being on a platform and having to deal with that, yet we’re in age where you could monitor your child’s social media and phone time for their safety. And second of all, it’s important to already teach your kids about internet safety before they even get onto any media platforms. We’re all very self aware of the problems that we face online, but tumblr has always been the site to be considered more “Rated R” than any other site. And I don’t think I’ve ever considered Tumblr has a “child friendly” site to begin with, but it can be since installing the “safe mode” option.
The main problems with tumblr is how it’s been like living in a porn bot apocalypse. And tumblr hasn’t cleaned it up at all. Some of my most popular writing pieces get reblogged by these porn bots, but they erase all my content and keep my likes and reblogs. That’s one of my most annoying issues, because even though they aren’t stealing my work, they’re stealing my credit. Yet besides that, you get random bots messaging you and coming up into your feed and getting rid of that problem, would’ve been for the greater good for everyone.
You know, I genuinely don’t have a problem with adults running porn related blogs whether it’s just reblogging or posting their own explicit content. Some people do it for their own pleasure, and some people actually do it on here to help their line of work. There is nothing wrong with working in rated r content, it’s obviously not the most traditional thing to do, but there’s nothing wrong with it as long as people are being safe about it. Isn’t that what’s really important? Doing things with safety and protecting yourself from danger. Yet, there are still people that use social media to solicitate minors and tumblr isn’t a site that is an exception to that. There are several blogs on this site that demonstrate pedophilia and concerning behavior, that needs to be looked out and watched for. And as terrible as this is, whether you’ve encountered it or not, but child pornography is a definite and disgusting reality here that is still needed to be taken care of. I’ve read a comment from an old man saying how young girls are the best types because they don’t fight back, and I’ve been across a blog concerning their own incest relations. Illegal activity and putting other users in dangers is the real problem, not if people decide to post pornstars or sell their own brand of lingerie.
You can watch porn anywhere on the internet, but you can’t find every nsfw artists on some porn site or even any social media platform without having to censor their own work, so they don’t get reported. And there are people that create nsfw merchandise, and there are few sites they can promote it on and Tumblr was one of them.
The funny thing is that the other half of Tumblr is made up of nsfw, and there’s honestly nothing wrong with that or to be ashamed of, because sex and sexual appeal is a big influence in the society we live in (which can’t be helped). There were other issues that Tumblr needed to resolve first. With the intentions of trying to fix a problem, they created a bigger one. They’re robbing several fantastic artists of exposure, because they like to draw porn, or because they’ve drawn a character with clevage or a woman showing her nipples, as if no one on Earth has them. Tumblr is just quickly going downhill by flagging everything, even content of people hugging and holding hands. Tumblr is like any other site where you share what you like on, but there’s several people here that decided to make a living on what they like to do and tumblr is a part of promoting themselves. Tumblr shouldn’t deprive people and the other side of their fan base from nsfw content, because they decided to want to be considered more “safe” when this site has never been looked at as a “child friendly” place, and wanting to make it more comfortable for others - give me a break, people use tags for a reason. And the only nsfw content that shows up under tags that aren’t related to that are because of porn bots. And just because Tumblr got taken off the App Store, I figured this place would love to rebel more instead of doing this since they claim to be “wide open” with “creative expression.” The reality of their decision is Tumblr isn’t supportive of those that use nsfw as creative expression, who were never going against any guidelines before, because of the pressure and the offense they felt for being taken off the App Store.
So, Tumblr you either get your fucking shit together and re-evaluate your decision, because what you did was extremely inconsiderate. And I’m not even running a blog considered “adult content.”
You were cool and all, but fuck you for doing this. @staff
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