#tulok and mango

[mossy-green-aka-ferrythem]

I can't get over how I was just casually watching a Tulok and Mango video, because you know, I love Elden Ring, and I love seeing how these people go about playing Elden Ring (probably some of the absolute best youtubers out there in that regard), and they just, god their analysis of Miquella. (Also, this post will casually bring up the DLC final boss, so watch out for that.)

I remember I just felt so stumped when it came to Miquella as a character. However, they just pick up and put the pieces together so clearly, that it makes me wonder how I haven't picked up on it sooner.

Like. Literally everything about Miquella comes together when you realize that one of the themes he is centered around is "Naivety". His eternal childhood represents how he is eternally naive, as he is but a child. His decision to marry his own brother not only shows how far he's lost himself in his own naivety. His "Age of Compassion" has no compassion at all, by making everyone servile to him he takes away other's free will, and a lord of a kingdom with no thinking subjects, is no lord at all. Miquella would just end up repeating the genocides that Marika committed before him I bet. He just really didn't know any better because like. He is a child. Children make bad decisions. He really did have good intentions at heart, especially in regards to his sister.

However, he lost the plot. His quest to ascend to godhood and make Radahn his consort really would only lead to further sacrifice and further ruin. Mohg was charmed and left without purpose, only there to execute a ritual to send Miquella to the Realm of Shadow, Malenia, in order to kill Radahn, had to stop resisting the influence of the rot god, and bloom for the first time in her life. These are just large, sweeping examples, but I really do think it shows Miquella's sheer descent when he chose to succeed the power structure.

Also. We cannot ignore the St. Trina-shaped Elephant in the room. Yes. I really do think it's best to look at her as a trans allegory. Like just. She is literally described multiple times as "Miquella's love" and "Miquella's fate", and she is most definitely meant to represent who Miquella's ideal self would end up being. Miquella finally growing out of that eternal childhood and blossoming into a woman. I really do think St. Trina is meant to represent Miquella's adult self. I mean, look at how even after being ruined, she still blossoms. She has the will to grow and endure, to take root somewhere. While Miquella, in his desire to succeed the power structure, had to remain a man. Throwing away that part of himself, that compassion, that love, leaving only a being that can grow like a weed. The way he looks in the promised consort fight is more like Kudzu, growing and choking all around him, rather than St. Trina, who blooms so beautifully...

Really there is a lot to think about here and this post isn't the best in terms of organization but like, you know?

[modeus-the-misanthrope]

The DLC for elden ring can't drop soon enough. These content creators are going banana's from the lack of new content.

[lucaswarmhotchocolate]

I don't think I'll ever get over the final boss of the DLC being shotacon incest yaoi

[nishihii]

Grucible Knight, based on a joke from the recent Tulok & Mango video

[minespatch1]

What exactly did Patches do to make Mohg upset?

I assume Nerijus might actually be after Patches due to the campfire outside the cave being smoked out.

Interesting theory from the Tulok and Mango comment section that has me intrigued.

[scarloott]

I've decided that I need to engage with media with more passion. I need to ask more questions. I need to stray from the beaten path. I need to be obnoxious about my interests. Actually that last one, I already am. But STILL I was watching a streamer (tulok & mango) play elden ring and he was like "oh yeah either Alecto is being protected by Tiche because Tiche still holds out hope or Tiche's ashes have been buried with Alecto intended to follow suit" or some shit and I was like "YOU CAN DO THAT? JUST LOOK AT TWO THINGS AND EXTRAPOLATE? FOR FUN?" anyway I am YEARS behind on this I need to catch up NOW

[modeus-the-misanthrope]

Watch Tulok & Mango.

On second thought, how about we just laugh at the Shaft joke and call it a day.

[lucaswarmhotchocolate]

tulok & mango I love you I love you I love you finally got around to watching his speed run for the dlc and oh my god the mid-video miquella analysis??? glorious. beautiful. perfect. amazing. it's so nice to hear someone actually talk about the trans themes in elden ring, I get so focused on the gameplay aspect that i forget to think about the story sometimes and none of the other speed runners and challenge runners I watch ever really talk about the lore (for obvious reasons tho lol)