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"I want to travel. See new places, meet new people."
"But I don't like the people... I don't like... humans."
"For the longest time, I thought I was stuck."
"Stuck at the place I live at."
"It's not so bad here, to be honest."
"I've got good food, nice friends, a family... but I want to travel."
"With the help of an auspicious associate, I found a spark in me."
"The resolve to change fate, the power to reshape reality."
"Determination."
"I always thought this power was just about magic... or maybe time travel. But as it turns out, it also allows me to... visit places."
"So many... other places, other worlds..."
"There are monsters out there, new people I wish to meet..."
"And so I extend my arm, and let the blade cut through the fabric of reality. Ever so subtle, it opens up a new horizon to me, a new universe..."
"And I pass through."
Introducing the Traveler!Chara AU!
Okay, this is not an announcement of a series or a comic or anything. It's just a fancy crossover idea that I came up with about Undertale and His Dark Materials, particularly the way that parallel realities are represented and traveled between in that book series (though personally I haven't read them, I've only seen the TV show).
And as the above text implies, this Chara comes from a post-pacifist timeline (in which they lived), who wished to explore new worlds and meet new people. Not that they didn't love their home, but compared to the whole of humankind, their tiny corner of reality felt a little bit oppressive at times.
At first it was just a fleeting thought - what if there are other worlds, with other monster communities out there? How would they look like? And then, one day, it all became a reality. Taking an ordinary kitchen knife, using the power of determination (and with the help of a certain someone), they reforged it into something unique. The blade ceased to be physical, its very edge becoming infinitely sharp, enabling it to cut through the quantum mesh itself.
And as for Chara's outfit, I dunno what it's supposed to be exactly. I just felt like this sort of... steampunk-ish aviator-ish style would fit them here? I also can't draw that well and I envy the people who can, who have designed so many amazing out!code characters like Ink Sans, Core Frisk, etc. I tried to create something unique of my own, something that I myself could feel proud of. Not sure that I do yet, but creating these images certainly took a lot of effort.
Welp, that's my contribution to the 9/9 Chara birthday Tumblr day!
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So today I've tried to continue a discussion I've had with a Palestinian supporter.
The result is me being blocked again, barred from the discussion, yet my thoughts were put up on a blog and mocked.
This is a continuation of a discussion we had on Reddit but was moved here since I reached out after being blocked. The result is me being blocked again, barred from the discussion, yet my thoughts were put up on a blog and mocked.
Is this how Palestine supporters handle things, by hiding behind their screens and mocking others?
This is just a sad display of an arrogant and small minded individual, yet it is not the first I've encountered and sadly I believe this is the mindset that leads many on their side. The blog I'm referring to by username tsskyx, you're welcome to go over it and make your own mind about the interaction.
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You followed my art blog right @tsskyx ? Well i will kindly let you know that i don't want to associate with anyone who supports Camila cuevas or the other piece of shit with the myspace looking ass name, so i advice you to unfollow or block me, if not i can do it myself.
every character in undertale that uses they/them is canonically nonbinary
and before you get mad, let’s take a look at what nonbinary means:
chara, frisk, kris and several other characters in undertale are never explicitly defined as male or female, instead, only ever referred to with gender neutral language and pronouns throughout the game. these characters would fall under the definition of nonbinary.
to nonbinary and trans people, these characters are representation. these characters are important to everyone, but the fact that they positively represent this part of us (being nonbinary) that is so often ignored, shamed, or inaccurately portrayed by other media is much more important to us. it’s very appropriate that the example sentence for the definition of nonbinary is “nonbinary people are vastly underrepresented in the media” because it’s true.
list how many nonbinary characters you know off the top of your head. now list how many characters you know that aren’t nonbinary. the lack of representation we get is astronomical.
it’s undeniable that these characters are canonically nonbinary. however, it appears that some people are holding on to the idea that they’re not. i’ve seen many, many excuses for why people can’t possibly see them as their canon gender or use their canon pronouns.
the thing is.
these excuses are often very poorly thought out. and they tend to disrespect the source material. so, if you’re going to come up with an excuse to misgender these characters, at least do a better job.
here’s all the excuses i’ve seen and why they make no sense.
#1: frisk/chara/kris are the player.
if they were the player they would not have their own names, backstories, personalities, relationship dynamics, motivations, & interests which lay outside the player’s influence. i’m inclined to believe people who claim this probably did not finish these games.
also just because the narrator says “you” does not mean they’re referring to you, the player. i’m guessing people who think this probably haven’t read homestuck and…actually, that’s valid tbh.
#2: frisk/chara/kris are meant to be projected on.
there’s a whole plot twist during the end of this game that these characters are separate from the player. (ie: frisk being revealed to have their own name and be their own person with their own life that flowey begs you to stop interfering with. chara being separate from both frisk and the player, having their own true name, family, backstory, personality, and morals.)
frisk and chara are written to be ambiguous at first, yes, but that’s because toby wants the player to project onto them because it makes the whole plot twist have actual meaning. frisk and chara being separate people and having their own names and backstories wouldn’t have any meaning if they were still supposed to be representations of the player.
this is amazing writing and it would make no sense for their genders to be the one thing that the player somehow still has control over when both undertale and deltarune keep reiterating time and time again that these characters are separate from the player.
#3: toby said frisk/chara/kris’s genders are up for interpretation.
he has never said this.
#4: toby made a tweet that said-
toby’s tweets are not canon.
#5: someone found a deleted tweet where toby called frisk a boy.
it was fake.
#6: frisk/chara/kris are only called they/them because the monsters don’t know their gender.
that’s never stated anywhere.
if monsters didn’t know their gender, toby would have written that into the narrative to show clearly what was going on, and we wouldn’t be having this whole nonbinary debate. but he didn’t. because this excuse doesn’t make sense.
chara & kris had been living with monsters for years. they were family. there’s no way the dreemurrs wouldn’t know what gender their fucking child (sibling & best friend, in asriel’s case) is, especially when they all have genders themselves. especially since, in undertale, the monsters weren’t living under a rock forever. they know what humans are like and have interacted with them before the war. even more so in deltarune, where everybody lives on the surface, so OF COURSE monsters would know what nonbinary is.
just maybe…..the monsters call frisk/chara/kris by they/them pronouns because they go by they/them pronouns
there are several monsters who go by they/them pronouns in the game as well. napstablook, monster kid, and ice wolf are just a few notable examples. the monsters do understand that these characters are nonbinary. i just wish some irl people could too!
#7: they/them is just another way of saying he or she.
usually you only call someone they/them in this way if you don’t know them. all the monsters know frisk/chara/kris. they’re family, class mates, friends, neighbors, etc. they know what gender these characters are and they know what pronouns they use.
there’s also already characters in these games who use multiple pronouns. there’s characters who use both he/him AND she/her pronouns. if frisk/chara/kris was like that then toby could’ve just done that as well. but he didn’t. they only ever uses they/them. it’s not that hard to respect that.
#8: singular they/them is not grammatically correct.
tell that to shakespeare.
#9: they look like [x] gender stereotype.
start applying this logic to real life people and see how quickly you get punched in the face.
#10: they never explicitly state they are nonbinary. the words “i am nonbinary” never come out of their mouth.
alphys never explicitly states she’s a girl. the words “i alphys, the royal scientist, am a girl” never comes out of her mouth. and yet… do people think her gender is up for interpretation? no.
you don’t need someone to hold your hand for you and walk you through this shit.
#11: [literally any other excuse that involves kris.]
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Got a few human-related asks, so might as well combine them into one post! Spoilers for Undertale, obviously. DISCLAIMER THAT THIS IS ALL JUST MY OPINION AND IS NOT A STATEMENT OF FACT IN ANY WAY.
I’ve always interpreted that line as a metaphor. At the end of the game, the being addressing me is... me. Myself. Radic, in this case, haha. After all, that’s how they introduce themselves... they use my game name. They’re the most potent distillation of my own curiousity - I did the run simply because I was curious, because I wanted to see what would happen. And if any other part of me had been strong enough or powerful enough, I would have stopped myself. But I didn’t! The one in “control”, the part of myself that was stronger than all the others, is the being that addresses me at the end. The demon that comes when you call its name, the feeling I get when numbers go up. My curiousity! It was a real moment of self-reflection for me. I feel like I’m really in the minority here with how I took the last scene though, haha.
As for the other fallen humans, honestly, I don’t really think about them at all. If you really want to pull back and look at Undertale as a game, the other six humans weren’t really “humans” at all anyway... they were just npcs like all the other characters in the game, equally scripted and created to serve a purpose for the actual human to come. The only real “human” in the game is the player. But I’ve also at times speculated about them just being failed runs from the same player they don’t remember, OR previous runs done by people who owned the game before you, or vague things along those lines. Admittedly I don’t really spend a lot of time thinking about them though! They don’t really interest me like the actual real human player does, haha.
I haven’t read any stories solely about the human that I’ve liked to be honest lol. I’m just not interested in any story that focuses on Frisk/the fallen child, they always feel “OOC” because they don’t reflect my personal experiences with the game, which I realize is an unreasonable expectation and is entirely on me, haha. I’m not asking anyone to accomodate me! I just prefer to read about the other characters as a result.
And I see Frisk/the fallen child as one player! The same person outside the game just making different choices. After all, I did a murder run and a pacifist run, and I’m just one person, and the game was addressing me throughout both of them. I was capable of both things! Both those elements of myself exist in one mind. But again I know this is a deeply unpopular opinion, haha.
This is a tricky question, since it’s hard for me to imagine myself not doing the run for various reasons, haha. But honestly... I don’t think I’d really think about them at all? The murder run made me analyze why I didn’t really think about them or notice them, but...
One of the things about Frisk that makes it so hard for me to see them as anything more than a vessel is that Frisk is almost entirely empty space. We know practically nothing about them. All of the instances of Frisk moving on their own volition are so small and ambiguous that they just easily fall into the category of things I would’ve done anyway.
Actually, a good contrast here would be comparing Frisk to Kris from Deltarune. Kris, in comparison, does feel like their own established character, and the reason for that is because Kris exists within the game’s world without me. Kris has relationships with their family and friends, they existed before I started playing the game, they were a person before I took control of them (which I highly suspect will be a key theme in Deltarune). While who Kris is exactly is still unclear since the game isn’t finished, Kris feels like a person to me in a way that Frisk does not. Gordon Freeman is a similar case. While what characterization he has is pretty thin on the ground, Gordon still existed in the Half-Life world before I started playing, and likewise, Kris also existed in the Deltarune world before I started playing. Even though both of them are entirely silent protagonists who never reveal any of their internal thoughts or feelings about what’s happening, they have a history that doesn’t involve me.
Frisk, in contrast, has nothing establishing them in the world of Undertale at all. They might as well just pop into existence the second you hit start. They have no history before they fell - we never even find out why they want to leave the Underground so badly. Their defining trait, determination, is entirely motive-less. They’re just doing things for the apparent sake of doing them - just like a human player. They have no family, friends, background, history, jobs, hobbies, likes, dislikes, nothing. They are in all ways a complete and total outsider to the Undertale world - just like the human player. There’s literally nothing else there by design.
(Ironically, the first child has more history than Frisk does... barely. But their close meta ties to the player and the player’s experience just leaves me utterly uninterested in that aspect of their existence. Sort of a forest for the trees situation.)
If I never did the murder run, I doubt Frisk would even register as a character in my mind to think about, and I doubt I’d even think about the fact I felt that way about them. I’d have no reason to! Thinking back to when I first beat the game (a pacifist run), I don’t remember thinking about Frisk at all. It was all about me and what I’d done and what I’d accomplished and the friends I’d made. I’d probably use Frisk the same way I use them now - as a way of showing my own actions or thoughts or interactions with the existing characters. A proxy for myself. Though they’d probably do nicer things more often and be less “player-like” in their demeanor or choices. I might just replace them with my own avatar entirely.
For me not to do a murder run, the ability to do one would practically have to be removed, so I probably wouldn’t explore the hideous things you can do as a player with them too often either. Without prompting, I might not think too hard about the intersection of player and avatar and the real consequences of my actions at all... and without that, who knows if I would’ve even gotten as deep into Undertale as I did? I might’ve just wrote it off as a cute RPG and that would have been that...
#undertale#asks and answers#spoilers#the human#dsfrogs#tsskyx#vtsuion#chell suffers a bit from lack of history in the first portal as well though that changes with portal 2#why does it always come back to valve games for some reason#walls of text#watch kris turn out to be frisk and i'll look the fool
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Also, to add to that long-ish submission, assuming the narrator Chara theory is true, how did they know what the power to resolve fate is called? By the looks of things, it was named by Alphys, who first called it "determination." And the narrator wasn't just saying we're determined, but that we're literally filled with it. So unless this was just a big coincidence, or unless the DT experiments really were started by Gaster, I see no other way for this to make sense. (ps. read my submission :) )
(undertale spoilers)
Nothing implies that Chara knows that the “power to resolve fate” is called “determination.” Rather, to be “filled with determination” is a common phrase in English. It is meant to describe an intense feeling of motivation, not a literal filling of “DT.”
In Undertale, determination has symbolic significance. Determination is a literary motif, appearing at Save Points, Game Overs, and in much of the dialogue. It’s only in the true lab that Alphys reveals she calls the power she extracted from the souls “determination.” This gives “determination” a second meaning as a literal substance, giving further significance to determination’s role in Undertale.
It’s possible that “determination” is something both Chara and Alphys picked up from Asgore. At Chara’s deathbed, he pleaded with Chara to “stay determined.”
VHS Tape 5
Game Over screen
Furthermore, there is nothing that indicates or supports the idea that Chara would have been involved with any of Gaster’s experiments. After all, Gaster would have no reason to extract determination from Chara’s soul, and there was no other human when Chara was alive. Chara would not have learned about determination from Gaster.
In short, it is somewhat of a coincidence, but would more accurately be called a literary motif: a reoccurring element that has symbolic (and in this case, also literal) significance in the story of Undertale.
#undertale#chara#alphys#w.d. gaster#gaster#asgore#ut#undertale spoilers#nochocolate asks#tsskyx#Mod Ellipsis#hope this fills you with#good power
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tsskyx replied to your photo “A long time ago, a human fell into the RUINS. Injured by its fall, the...”
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Well... you know, it's not really implied by the game that Asriel can somehow magically move matter around to create physical bodies. Besides, that would be overthinking the entire situation. I think the simplest explanation is that the monsters gave those humans a proper burial. Kinda like Chara's. As for why they were inside the coffins and not buried somewhere in the first place... who knows, really.
The coffins were closed when Frisk encountered Asriel. They were open when the fight was over, after no time had passed, with everyone in the Underground having no idea what was going on except that ‘the human broke the barrier and we know Frisks’ name, somehow, or at least that there’s a human that’s not so bad.’
What do we know? Asriel was a literal god. He has been shown he can raise the dead in monsters. He I want to highlight this.again: he was a literal god, said to be all-powerful.
Suggesting that, in the minutes between when you start that fight and finish it, while most of the monsters are still part of Asriel, a funeral took place that nobody acknowledges, is somehow more likely than … Asriel doing for the humans what he did for monsters is a hugely complicated farce. Occam’s razor favors the simplest answer, and the simple answer is ‘Asriel gave everyone’s bodies and SOULs back.’
You’re overthinking the situation immensely and trying to play up your pessimism as rationalism, which I’m noticing is an ongoing theme with you. Your ongoing attempts to insert yourself into the theories and stories and ideas of both me and my friends have never been in the name of rationalism or fairness, but rather pessimism, an ongoing quest to find things that are least hopeful, have the least meaning.
If it’s positive, it can’t mean anything. Only negative answers, the bitter things, the unhappy things, the unsatisfying things, these are the only causes you champion.
But negativity is not more rational than positivity. Happy thoughts and hopeful conclusions are not less valid than negative ones. I’d thought that being so wrong about the storybook, which you insisted would not be about the story whatsoever, would push you to reconsider your approach. I can see I was wrong.
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You said Undertale references will appear in future MLP episodes. When they air, will you tell us? I'm not really into MLP, so I don't want to spend hours searching for those few moments.
Oh no, sorry, I think the one that didn’t get through was the only Undertale reference I’ve tried thusfar! Any other references I may have tried to board in were for other things, mostly films.
#MLP ask#pretty much will only go with something 1) if it's funny and 2) if it's appropriate for what's going on#and even then things get changed a lot in the process so it usually doesn't work out#but oh well#tsskyx
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tsskyx replied to your post “tsskyx replied to your post “tsskyx replied to your post “If you...”
And the instructions to the game? I remember there were some in the demo or somewhere.
There was a manual that came with the demo which changed as you progressed the story. Don’t worry about me, I know all about it.
But it was called an instruction manual. And if this was going to be an instruction manual that’s what it would be called. Instead, it’s a storybook. The page that fangamer is showing an example of is not of instructions, or ‘how I made this.’ It’s a clear bit of story.
I honestly find the thought that fangamer would deliberately misrepresent their products to be a little baffling.
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How... how are you able to find all this amazing undertale stuff? I originally found your blog like 3 months ago and I still haven't managed to go through all of it.
haha i guess through pure obsession? i. really like this character and this blog started a week after the game was released, so there’s a lot of very old stuff here too! kind of proud to archive stuff about the kid.i’ve honestly... even had the ability to be a bit picky in not reblogging from people who are kind of not great, because there is so much content out there to reblog! (i dont want anyone to think thats not why i didnt reblog their content tho.... i have. hundreds upon hundreds of images saved that i -havent- reblogged yet, and i’m not very picky about that kind of thing...).i go through a lot of people’s character tags specifically bc i have a specific goal, so? i see a lot of flowey/asriel stuff.rn there’s 4000 posts on the blog? so i think a bit has been stocked up. and inevitably it will get Much Bigger for awhile now because right now the queue is full almost everyday because im making sure to reblog things rather than leave them on a ‘to reblog’ status.
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I've heard there's some extra text when you look into the mirror in the New Home and Home after you complete the pacifist route. Is this true? I checked your project, and I found nothing, so maybe you missed that, or maybe I'm just being stupid.
I believe you are referring to this screenshot!
This text is indeed Post-Pacifist, but it doesn’t appear in the mirror in New Home - only Home’s mirror has this change.
(In the folder, this is located in 03. Ruins > 1 - Overworld > 3. Pacifist > 01. Bedrooms.)
#tsskyx#undertale#ruins#pacifist#it's weird how new home's mirror doesn't change#guess this just makes it feel more full circle
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Incredible mashup created by @tsskyx 👑🦀
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tsskyx likes to theorize that chara was evil 😬
(Continued): previous anon they also support c-mila cu-vas and z-rla
LOL ok idk if its right to put this person on blast but I could tell I got some hostile vibes from the person from the start, and just checking their reddit for a second i saw "frisk stans" with a meme of being in trash
Like. Frisk is a kid. That is such a wild take.
Edit: OK so that was glitcht-le specifically so that context is a little different but also fuuuuuck that series
Anyway if yall wanna avoid this person feel free, just don't harrass or bring me into anything
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Hi, Tsskyx here. I'd like to clarify that I am in no way affiliated with the idea that Chara and intersex people are freaks, I was merely stating what some unfortunate idiots think at that specific portion of the post. This was just a misunderstanding, I apologize for not clarifying. Please, you can always ask me if you find anything wrong with my posts, I truly meant no harm. Also, if you find my posts badly written, then tell me too, my goal is mutual understanding, not a Tumblr drama. Thanks.
yeah right.
if you’re REALLY sorry then go delete your shitty post and make a public apology for it and then go write a post on why intersexism & nbphobia is bad with valid citationsand maybe then people will actually be able believe you.
also using an alt account to circumvent someone blocking you is weird, dude.
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I was recently discussing the game mechanics with someone, and they said that there will be no prequel showcasing the previous fallen humans, as they didn't have the RESET ability (which would make the said prequel quite boring). At first I thought that that was silly. I mean, there's proof in the game that they could SAVE, so they probably could RESET too, right? Well, I'm not too sure, I actually can't find proof anywhere that the other fallen humans could RESET like Frisk. What do you think?
(undertale spoilers)
To answer this question, we have to look at the previous wielder of the power over the timeline – Flowey.
While he only mentions “SAVE” when he explains the power, he does mention the word reset in one pacifist neutral ending!
When he talks about Sans, he explicitly uses the word “resets” instead of “load,” which he uses in other dialogue:
FLOWEY:When I saw you in the RUINS, I didn’t recognize you.I thought I could frighten you, then steal your SOUL.I failed.And when I tried to load my save file…It didn’t work.
FLOWEY:Say.What if I told you…I knew some way to get you a better ending?You’ll have to load your SAVE file, and…Well, in the meantime, why don’t you go see Dr. Alphys?
FLOWEY:Did you REALLY think killing me would make a DIFFERENCE?No.Every time you load your SAVE, I’ll come back.
Flowey may be a special case, given how much fourth wall breaking he does. However, his words also can be taken as someone who has come to see the underground as simply a game. The use of game terminology does not dismiss the fact that he had a power that allowed him to undo what he has done before.
While there is no definitive evidence that the other fallen humans had the power to reset, there isn’t really any evidence that counters it either. The one with the power over the timeline can save, load, and reset in both cases seen in game. It would make sense for the fallen humans to have the reset power as well.
»read more: the humans had the power to save and load
#undertale#flowey the flower#flowey#ut#undertale spoilers#nochocolate asks#tsskyx#Mod Ellipsis#a prequel with the other humans would be interesting!#however#I think ultimately they would have to die#and that wouldn't make for a very fun game
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Addendum numero uno:
If you are a person who jumps to toxic conclusions this easily without even giving the other person a chance to explain themselves, then perhaps I am wasting my time with you. I kinda knew this would happen eventually. That eventually, I’m gonna stumble upon a person who doesn’t care about my arguments at all and is merely waiting for an opportunity for me to slip up so that they can shut me down, call me names, spread “awareness” about me.
In the post where this came from I’ve forgot to mention this, so I will do it now: people from the other camp, those who don’t believe that Frisk is 100% proven to be non-binary, also hate people from this camp (who think that Frisk is proven) exactly because of behavior like this. Because here, people are capable of taking an instant offense over anything and everything and trying to explain something to them is like taking a walk through a minefield.
This wasn’t me expressing my opinion, this was clearly me showing how stupid some other people are with their interpretations of the canon and the gender discourse. This particular line was never my opinion. I thought it was clear enough. Apparently not.
You know, I WAS thinking about not publishing this rant and hoped I could get this person to change their mind, to give me a chance to defend myself, but this is what I’ve gotten instead:
https://subshrubs.tumblr.com/post/185071250702/hi-tsskyx-here-id-like-to-clarify-that-i-am-in
I admit it, I have an alt. I mainly use it to reach out to idiots who block me and therefore make any attempts at reconciliation impossible.
According to him I should: delete the post, make a public apology, and then write a thesis on gender studies.
You know what subshrubs? Fuck you, the post will stay up, as there is literally nothing wrong with it. It’s not my god damn fault your half-melted cheddar cheese brain is incapable of understanding simple arguments and logical reasoning. All you apparently understand is, that either someone is with you, or against you, and all you can do when someone is against you is to talk about how epic your intersex chode is.
If anyone here showed their true colors today, it was @subshrubs.
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