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I wrote this old theory back in August 2020 after Redux came out. At the time I was collecting my thoughts of what was being shown to us and coming to some conclusions on what might be foreshadowing for future episodes.
Give it a little read and let me know what you think
CW: Unsympathetic Janus (I’m not very nice to him in this theory, just a heads up) my reasoning is that I still think Thomas sees him as a cunning ‘villain’ type because of his ‘black and white’ thinking. There is still a lot unresolved with Janus and I know he’s manipulating the Core 4 but to what end we still don’t know…
#trust me I love a good villain#he can be bad all he wants#I’m just pointing it out and giggling#thomas sanders#sanders sides#roman sanders#logan sanders#ts roman#patton sanders#ts logan#virgil sanders#Janus sanders#Remus sanders#c!thomas#ts svs#ts svs redux#ts dwit#ts clbg#ts theories#ts predictions#ts theory
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Thomas: Is it OK to lie to your partner if you're a mouse? Janus as Patton: ... I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
#clbg#can lying be good#c!thomas#character thomas#ts janus#janus sanders#sanders sides#thomas sanders#sanders sides incorrect quotes
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This is the first part of my gift for the @sanderssidesgiftxchange for @dragonindigo245!
Hey Indigo! This has been so fun to do even that time when I accidentally followed you (which I don’t regret) and you immediately tagged me in a conversation you were having! It’s been super fun to do. I really hope you like some of it!
Part 1 (you’re here!), Part 2
Image description below the cut:
[A digital drawing of Deceit disguised as Patton like in the Sanders Sides episode Can Lying Be Good. Deceit is a white man with brown mid length wavy hair and brown eyes. He has large dark glasses and is wearing a baggy grey shirt with a grey, brown, and green plaid scarf. He is face on to the camera and his head is tilted at a 45 degree angle. His tongue is sticking out to the side, and one of his arms is raised and the index and middle fingers of that hand are crossed and pointed at his neck. A dashed yellow line is going across the background where his neck is and extends to his crossed fingers. END ID]
#ts patton#ts deciet#patton sanders#janus sanders#ts janus#director!patton#patton!deceit#mangomakesart#sanders sides#sanders sides fanart#fanart#ts fanart#ts fandom#ts art#can lying be good#ts clbg#ts gift exchange 2020#ts gift exchange#mangodraws
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Everyone in CLBG: you know what? Frick you! *unpattons your Deceit*
#sanders sides#clbg#ts clbg#ts logan#ts roman#ts patton#ts virgil#ts janus#sanders sides shitpost#can lying be good
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It’s 2am so this might not be coherent but I keep thinking about the real world implications of the Sanders Sides. Like, Joan on the phone call at the end of “Can Lying Be Good” made it seem like this is a thing that Thomas tends to do often and that his friends are aware of. However, what I’m wondering is:
What would Thomas’s friends see if they were in the room for a Sanders Sides video?
Would it look like Thomas talking to himself and doing various voices? We see in “Selfishness vs Selflessness” that when he goes into the Mind Palace it’s just him sitting on the couch with his eyes closed. So all signs would seem to indicate the sides aren’t visible to people, and are unable to interact with the real world.
But there’s conflicting evidence. In the most recent episode, there’s a part where Patton gets smacked by Logan’s text pop-up and hits the blinds behind him. Thomas seems really weirdly worried about the state of the blinds, worried that Patton may have damaged them. But Patton is imaginary, so how would he have damaged anything in the real world?
Then at the end of “Putting Others First” we see Patton and Janus talking to each other in another room while Thomas is talking to his friends Lee and Mary Lee. We’ve also seen multiple occasions of the sides doing things and discussing things without Thomas knowing about it. How could it be possible for Thomas to not know about these things if it’s just him standing in the living room talking to himself?
So from this information, I propose that the sides maybe started as imaginary and noncorporeal, but have become more real over the course of these videos. More and more often the sides keep secrets from Thomas, or mess with his sense of reality against his will, like with Remus. It’s also become more common to see Thomas in the same frame as one of the other sides, such as with Logan’s part of the song in “Learning New Things About Ourselves” (I know this is because the team is better at editing, but it could still be relevant). Even the gross “stretchy arm thing” could be a part of this. With the sides becoming more a part of the physical world, they can interact with each other more, but they’re still able to bend the rules in unnatural and unsettling ways. It’s like an uncanny valley thing for Thomas.
TL:DR - I think that maybe at this point, the character Thomas believes in these characters and knows them so well, that they’ve actually started to exist. Which, he wouldn’t actually realize had happened, until maybe one of his friends walks in on one of their little board meetings and sees multiple copies of Thomas only for him to say “you can see them too ??”
#ts spoilers#sanders sides#sanders sides theory#2am ramble#ts pof#ts clbg#ts intrusive thoughts#real world implications
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I made a Roman gif cuz I couldn't find one of this specific part.
#i made this to cope with my fear of heavy storms while a storm is currently happening that blew out my power#please help me#roman sanders#ts clbg#sanders sides
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isn't it amazing that after nearly 4 years we get the chance to meme about fitting in again
[id: a handshake. one arm is labeled "remus"; the other is labeled "patton". text on their clasped hands reads "looks like a pirate". end id.]
#remus sanders#patton sanders#sanders sides#ts spoilers#i say this as if i had been around for fitting in i joined right after clbg#anyway gotta love remus' eye patch#casey's notes
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what Thomas Sanders characters say when their friend asks them to hang out and they don’t want to
#to clarify the bottom one is c!thomas#and yes it’s a callback to what he did in CLBG#and yes I said ‘callback’ on purpose#sanders sides#sanders sides meme#c!thomas#ts patton#ts janus#ts logan#ts roman#ts remus#ts virgil#emile picani#remy sanders#sleep sanders
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Guess the Side!
- Random outbursts that you can’t help but chuckle at
- Snacks on an inedible compound, much to everyone else’s dismay
- Enthusiastically condones felonies
- Employs wordplay to make dirty jokes
- Has a dapper BFF who is Very Exasperated but accepting of his antics
- Has canonically committed arson
- Temporarily grows big enough to pick up other characters with a single hand
- More specifically, grows into a frog
- It’s Patton, not Remus
- God I love that they’re lowkey very similar
- Let them be chaotic together, Tomathy
#sanders sides#patton sanders#remus sanders#ts patton#ts remus#intruality#ish#I *will* provide receipts if anyone wants them#but CLBG IncorrectQuotes and Dad's Big Game Tips cover the big ones#look the incorrect quotes were just patton & remus being feral and logan & janus putting up a token resistance but#ultimately enabling their respective gremlins#and i for one find that beautiful#also tagging#logicality#&#dukeceit#bc of course i eventually got there in the tags
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I feel like Janus would be very active on r/amitheasshole subreddit. He would defintley be brutally blunt and get mad at all the assholes who don't have common sense yet also make very weird posts about how he annoys all the sides and everyone is so confused.
Imagine scrolling through the subreddit and seeing, "am i the asshole? I impersonated my ex-husband to try and get sad gay man to learn how to lie while his angry emo friend thought I was sus"
#emma rambles#this is so bad im sorry#sanders sides#janus sanders#ts janus#moceit#patton sanders#ts patton#sanders sides headcanon#virgil sanders#ts virgil#can lying be good#clbg#macadamia.txt
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you can hear what he's saying even without audio
#At least I can sjsjsj#he’s saying ‘OH COME ON’ if you couldn’t tell#ts Roman#Roman Sanders#ts screenshot#Sanders sides#clbg#blur#motion
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Janus consistently being in partial shadows is my favourite recurring visual, I adore the symbolism and mood it creates for him 🖤💛🐍
He truly carries his dark side with him, I wonder if it will change one day? For now, I’m glad it keeps happening in every single episode he’s in lol
#thomas sanders#sanders sides#Janus sanders#ts details#ts stuff you missed#roman sanders#logan sanders#patton sanders#ts janus#SvS#SvS redux#clbg#embarrassing phases#the sides need a nice day#what makes a perfect gift#have i grown
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when something touches your foot in the ocean
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DEAR FANDERS
I am aware we are all happy about our beloved Logan "Logic" Sanders not birthday and how happy he looks after he got his birthday wish turned into reality! Hurray for that!
However, i'm not here to talk about that! rewatching the series we have this line in "Can lying be good?" Minute 21:27
We know Logan embodies Thomas's knowledge so here he is saying he is Thomas's greatest weapon and defense, that what he represents is what will never hurt him and that's funny because representing knowledge is exactly what got him hurt in "putting others first" aka "SvS redux"
Logan was called upon Patton to provide information that could've prevented Thomas getting hurt if he had lisented, but they didn't Thomas's damage was mental, and Logan's? Emotional, he was so angered that he was called only to be ignored he didn't even want to hear anything from anyone, especially from Patton he simply provided what he had to say and left, hurt.
Logan whole life revolves about what he knows, about what he can provide and about what keeps him going. He believed knowledge was a defense and a weapon, yet he never considered it could be a double edged weapon. If the one thing he represents, the one thing that kept him safe and the thing that could never hurt him did just that, What does that leave Logan? That answer is yours to tell.
If i had to realize this and be sad so do all of you :).
Grab some tissues and a crofters jar if you are sad, that is all bye!
#sander sides#thomas sanders#logan sanders#logan logic sanders#ts logan#sander sides logan#logan angst#he is sad now :(#sander sides patton#patton sanders#ts patton#sander sides theory#kind of#not really#can lying be good#clbg#putting others first#svs redux#:(#sander#fanders#sander sides fandom
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Unpopular Opinion:
Janus would have been accepted much earlier if like, the first thing he did when he was revealed hadn’t been saying “you foolish dummy! I am and always have been Patton! you have no morality!” and laughing manacingly
Like if I found out I had a lying snake side and they introduced themself like that then yeah, I’d also be kinda iffy about listening to them??
#was that the first thing he said?? I’m too lazy to look up CLBG#but even if it wasn’t that’s kinda not very good for trustbuilding at any time#sanders sides#ts janus#Janus Sanders#deceit sanders#I also kinda miss calling him deceit that’s such a cool name even if though it’s not a name
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"Deceit? Who's she? Never heard of her"
It's like midnight and I was in a drawing mood sp here's a drawing of Janus from CLBG. Ngl, I'm genuinely shocked by how well this turned out
#sanders sides#deceit sanders#janus sanders#sanders sides fanart#thomas sanders#morality sanders#ts patton#patton sanders#ts sides patton#ts janus#ts deceit#ts fanart#Fanart#Art#Ts#Ts sides#can lying be good#Clbg#deceit fanart#Janus fanart#patton fanart#ts morality#Morality sanders#txt
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