#tristia I

[ulquiorrapleasecallmetrash]

Where is the court of darkness smut?

Am i going to have to taint the community with smut?

You bet your sweet ass i am going to.

[marcusagrippa]

mean to him

[shrews-art]

Traditional art dump!!!

[cupidswurld]

roman empire is for males this . woman version of roman empires that . what about the secret, more complex third thing, huh?

[scvrletvision]

having a lot of ovid related feelings today....

[sugar-glaze-donut]

OMG AKUNEKO WRITER??? I LOVE YOU ALREADY.

may i request headcanons where aruji-sama comforts butlers after bad day/bad dream? if that's too much, then maybe just comforting basement butlers? they're really like a family to me, especially after reading the newest episode...

thank you!! may you have a great day!!

Hello hello! Is this an anon I see? AND THEY LOVE ME????? >:O (ily too anon >:) )

TW: OOC butlers, spoilers from butler cards, Episode 2 and 3

Aruji-sama comforting the butlers has gotten me thinking... are they touch-starved?

Most butlers lost their families and haven't felt that warm, safe feeling in centuries probably. Some were mistreated and others were not even accepted into society at all (and still are).

So Aruji-sama giving them hugs and comfort after a long day/ nightmare would definitely bring them to tears.

~ 🐸 - 💜 - 🌟- 💜 - 🐸 ~

One of which, I think our energetic and bubbly Lamli would have a full-on breakdown the moment you hug him and praise him for working hard. It's not the same feeling when Lucas praises him. It's... a new feeling. A feeling so warm, his heart aches and he smiles while crying tears. His 1st-anniversary card (I think), reveals that in the past, he had been neglected by his mother who made him work for money. Perhaps all that neglect and a pinch of the influence of Lucas (from one of Lamli's free stories) made the boy we know today.

~ 🍪 - 💙 - ✝️ - 💙 - 🍪 ~

Another is Haures. In Episode 2, can take a glimpse of how Haures and his sister Tristia lived in the past. Haures coming back home to see Tristia all healed up and waiting at the doorstep for his arrival seemed to be a daily routine for both of them (until the events from Episode 2 happened).

When you hug Haures and welcome him back to the mansion after a trip to the Grosvenor mansion, he tenses. The feeling is so nostalgic to him, he was frozen in place for a few moments before hugging you back with tears running down his face. He's been through a lot :(

~ ☕️ - 🧡 - 🥀 - ❤️ - 🍵 ~

And our newest addition to the Devil butlers, Yuuhan and Teddy! Only recently they had felt enough “despair” for them to become Devil butlers (from Episode 2 and 2.5). Even though it has only been a few months after the incident happened, waking up everyday realising your life style changed because of 1 thing they weren’t able to stop will definitely weigh more burdens upon themselves. Both wear happy smiles everyday trying to hide the ugly past chasing them everyday.

That’s where you (and Grandpa Hanamaru) come along and comfort them. Even though they may have lost what was dear to them… now they have a new goal. Protecting you from the reason why their happiness got stolen from them.

~ 🧵 - 💖 - 🌿- 💖 - 🕯️ ~

As for the Basement butlers, we haven’t seen the ending for Episode 3 yet but it is hinted and theorised that Lato may “despair” and lose control

So after when all the events come to a close, Aruji-sama is here to the rescue!! Summoned to comfort the Basement butlers!!! Words of reassurance are in need! QUICK QUICK QUICK!!!!!

All the stress weighed down upon them ever since Lato got taken away by the Grosvenor soldiers vanished, leaving a sense of relief. From the new chapters of Episode 3, we can see that the Basement butlers were the most affected, leaving us more almost-beyond-repair butlers. I think at this point, you need to have a sleepover with the Basement butlers and hug them to sleep.

~ 🌼 - 📝 - 🍩 - 📝 - 🌼 ~

That’s all Anon! I hope yo liked it 💕 (sorry for the OOC butlers 😅)

[lionofchaeronea]

On the Lasting Power of Art

Ovid, Tristia III.7.45-52 See – although I lack my fatherland, and you, And my home, and what could be taken from me’s been stolen, Nevertheless I keep company with my genius, I enjoy it – Caesar could have no power over this. Let whoever wishes end this life of mine With savage sword – though I’m dead, my fame will survive, And while Mars’ Rome, victorious, shall look on the whole world, Conquered, from its hills, I shall be read.

En ego, cum caream patria uobisque domoque,      raptaque sint, adimi quae potuere mihi, ingenio tamen ipse meo comitorque fruorque:      Caesar in hoc potuit iuris habere nihil. Quilibet hanc saeuo uitam mihi finiat ense,      me tamen extincto fama superstes erit, dumque suis uictrix omnem de montibus orbem      prospiciet domitum Martia Roma, legar.

Ovid among the Scythians, Eugène Delacroix, 1859

[expectris-patronum]

i've seen a lot of "dead poets society characters as..." posts on tumblr and I thought I could do the same thing with Latin texts/fragments/... since the poets learn Latin at Welton.

Two things first:

1. almost all translations are from the internet

and 2. English is not my mother tongue, so don't be surprised if something sounds very strange.

Neil

Neil could be this passage of Horace's Odes because that's where the term "carpe diem" comes from

Todd

At first I thought a poem would be the best kind of text for Todd. But when I was going through the Ovid texts we were studying in Latin class, I came across this extract from Ovid's Tristia. I think it fits Todd quite well because it combines poetry, an older brother and a father who isn't particularly proud of his younger son. But I don't know if it counts as a poem.

Charlie

The fragment that suits Charlie best would surely be the introduction to Ovid's Ars Amatoria, because presenting himself as the god of love is something that Charlie would actually do

Meeks

I wanted to give Meeks something more scientific than lyrical. The only texts of this kind that I know are Pliny's letters about a volcanic eruption. No quotes this time. The whole letter suits him.

Pitts

Pitts just gives me Martial vibes. Martial wrote a lot of short poems in which he basically made fun of people.

This one means something like: I don't know what you write to so many girls, Faustus, but I know that no girl writes you.

Knox

Knox has a huge crush on Chris, which reminds me of Catullus' poems about Lesbia.

Cameron

Cameron could be some typical Latin class reading that is hated by students and loved by teachers. So I thought Caesar's works would be a good choice for him. I can't find a specific line or book for him, he just gives me general Caesar texts vibes

[floralpoeticss]

I have learned the art of departure.

Osip Mandelstam, from "Tristia"

[saintatomique]

Dev diaries - Tristia inspiration

(This is a part of dev diaries on my visual novel 'Heroes Of Oblivion', which is out now on itch.io. Please be aware of the mild spoilers below.)

In the beginning, I was imagining Tristia a bit sunnier, a bit like Italy or somewhere in the Balkans perhaps (while they still bore the Austro-Hungarian spirit). But in the end, typical wartime dioramas served more of an inspiration (although the traces of the former remained, too). There is a particular sort of a diorama that is common in showing WW1 or WW2 ruins - a small, hopeless kind of town. In the WW1 case, it's often a town in Belgium or so it seems, in WW2 it's often Polish or German town and, interestingly, I found some similarities between them in the form of some typical 'germanic' architecture mixed with romanic neoclassical or maybe even modernist. Few people know it, but many polish cities have 'Italianized' architecture, especially in the south of the country. I was surprised to find out there IS a common thread between all these small European cities, eastern and western, and this commonality, characterized by simple shapes where only facade adornments hint at the time period, is what can be a 'Tristian' style.

(A roughly-made but dramatic scene shows a city villa very similar to Alex's house.)

(The lovely wartime french resort scene is very reminiscent of Tristia. )

(The picture above shows 'Doloris suburbs' as I imagined - constant rows of stone fences, old stone houses, gardens.)

(And here is how some of the bridges they passed looked - apart from the too full of a river, in my opinion, since Doloris bridges are mostly over narrow channels and rocks, not rivers.)

(And that's the hill Alex probably climbed down to reach the shore that night. Everything is mostly peaceful but somber.)

[hovelicher-unsin]

So.

The following happend and derailed my evening (and therefore the evening of my best friend too).

I was wondering, if there was a German translation of Tristan (Gottfried von Straßburg) available on the internet. And there is, from 1904 by Wilhelm Hertz, here.

It's a scan of a old library book and apparently someone (an English speaking person) wrote the names and relations of the characters on one of the first pages which I am normal about (/pos). They probably didn't get further than the Marjodo episode or Isot (Iseut? Isolde?) with the white hands or her brother would have been mentioned. Anyway, besides the point!

The book itself starts with this absolutely insane Latin quote.

Amor est quaedam mentis insania,

Quae vagum hominem ducit per devia;

Sitit delicias et bibit tristia

Crebris doloribus commiscens gaudia.

Now, of course I needed to find out, where to find this quote and also what it meant. The translation is roughly (and please be nice about it, this is only backed up by another translation that I'll mention in a bit):

Love is such a mental insanity that leads the wandering human astray; it thirsts for happiness and drinks misery, often mixing pain with pleasure.

So naturally ... I needed to find out where the quote came from even more! It took me 15 minutes to figure out "Romania IV, 383" meant Romania, the journal that is being published since the 1870s, the fourth volumen, page 383, found here.

I was so stoked to find out the entire journal (or at least from their first edition up until 2020) was freely available on JSTOR. So, there I was, giddy because I thought my side quest of the evening was over. LIES, I TELL YOU!

The article was in French. I do not speak French and my pitiful Spanish and — without a dictionary almost equally pitiful — Latin knowledge can only get me so far. On page 383 I found my quote, but I was also at a crucial point of helplessness.

Luckily just at that moment my partner (not involved in the detective work) asked what I was doing, I explained my situation and then my best friend offered to take a look at it. After two minutes they pulled out their own phone to google around, meaning I had gotten them invested. And with their excellent help I got some answers out of the French article!

First things first, the author of the article is saying in a footnote (following those three quotes) that the French translation is bad. I can't say anything about that, but I thought it was important to mention.

Then they (friend) figured out that the quote was from a book a certain Francis Douce had had in his collection and which he left to the Bodleain Library after his death. This particular quote came from book number 139, page 148.

The books from this collection are being digitized and a good portion of them is available already right here (there are so many old playing cards!!). The book from which this quote was taken has not been digitized yet, but a starting page can be found here. More information on the whole book can be found right here.

So what we are left with is this:

The quote is from a 13th century manuscript that mostly features songs, as far as I can see.

It will probably be digitized some day since the project is still ongoing.

The quote itself is not from Douce, since he only collected the books. We don't know who said/wrote this, at least neither my friend nor I could find out more about it.

I am tempted to ask @bodleianlibs if they can tell me more about this particular book/the quote in it, but I also really just want to fuck around and find out, so it doesn't have any priority I fear. Contextualizing the quote in relation to my blorbo medieval piece of literature is probably not enough of a reason.

Anyway, that's how I spent a good hour of my evening and I am so hyped now, this was so incredibly interesting to do!

[ulquiorrapleasecallmetrash]

Work week done now I can write, talk and gush over Ulquiorra, Dia Akedia and Grayson Hotz.

Also LOVED Dia's last event story. It was cute it was sweet and I bought the epilogue for it.

Here are screenshots of my favorite moments of the event story.

Now THESE Are great quotes.

[catilinas]

hi hello what are your thoughts on propertius? <- we’re about to study a couple of his poems in latin and i do not know much about him!!

hi!! so bear in mind i have only read book 3 in any detail and also i haven't read much of ovid's tristia Yet but propertius is my favourite of the elegists for reasons of The Civil War Is There. so 1.21 and 1.22 are faves. it's kind of a trope more generally in elegy but i do love it when propertius embeds little epitaphs in his poems. they are something to look out for or also you can choose to read lines that aren't obviously epitaphs as epitaphs anyway. for fun. 3.18 slaps and is doing evil and fun things with aeneid 6 and marcellus' ghost is there in a vaguely anti-augustan fashion. 4.11 also has a ghost and also has legal procedures in the underworld. i can't remember which one has cynthia's ghost but??? that is also good. um. book 3 he is constantly wriggling around the epic genre (kinda like ovid does at the start of the amores) but in a civil war flavoured way. to me. oh and if you haven't read anything on him this article is like. required and very good reading on not taking the 'love poems' literally (seems obvious) in a specific direction (fun and meta). hope this is helpful and have fun! i also read some propertius for a-level and really liked it :-)

[felagund-fiollaigean]

I know zero (0) people who have read both of these series so I know I’m writing for an audience of one (1). but that’s what this blog is so.

The potential for a Greatcoats/Stormlight crossover is sooooooo juicy. Hear me out. I’m gonna start with the obvious under the cut (spoilers for both series obvs):

The gods native to Tristia are Death, Love, War, Coin, and Craft. These can (with a little imagination) be interpreted as Shards, allowing Tristia to fit into the Cosmere. If we wanna get jiggy with it, we can say that Craft is a colloquial name for Invention, an actual shard who (as far as I know) hasn’t appeared in any books yet.

Not only do the original gods of Tristia fill this role, but the new ones (that we know of) do as well. We meet the god Valor in Saint’s Blood, and Valor is also a shard of the cosmere. Like Invention, they haven’t actually made an appearance yet to my knowledge, so having them fill this role in the world of the Greatcoats works well.

Even though they are not analogous to each other, the Saints of Tristia and Heralds of Roshar fill similar roles in the religious spheres (pun unintended) of both worlds. This will be good for comic relief when the Stormlight characters learn that Kest and Falcio were once Saints and wonder how they’re not insane, and the tristians have to explain “no it’s more of a job title we’re not immortal i’ve never even been to hell, well, except for that one time and that was only for a little while- stop looking at me like that, brasti.”

Oaths play a very important role in both worlds. It’s how radiants bond to their spren and access their surgebinding abilities, and personalized oaths are sworn by each Greatcoat when they pledge themselves to their monarch. If we want to play it this way, swearing their oaths to Aline in Saint’s Blood could be what attracted Spren to the Greatcoats in the first place.

Speaking of binding spren and giving our greatcoats surgebinding, let’s talk about that for a second, shall we? there’s a few obvious choices here.

- Falcio is a Skybreaker. He practically wrote the laws of Tristia with Paelis and was the first to swear to and enforce them. He was the most dedicated out of any other Trattari to the cause of uniting Tristia the law, bringing justice, and to Paelis himself. Thesea re all very Skybreaker qualities. With the added bonus Character Drama: radiants who access the surge of division have to show impeccable self-control before they can wield it (they don’t get it until they swear their... third oath? something like that, it’s locked behind a certain amount of character growth) and Falcio famously has some, ahem, anger management issues. He would have to work on the whole trauma-induced dissociative episodes of incandescent rage and homicidal behavior. just a little bit. it will be good for him! a long time coming tbh. that’s good character work babey. His spren is named Crux

- Brasti is an Edgedancer. He’s so obnoxious and ridiculous and horny but his strongest moments in the series are when he’s remembering those who have been forgotten. Comforting the child during her father’s execution, training people to fight and defend themselves while the rest of the squad was off destroying their enemies, talking to the wounded people in the infirmary about the loved ones they fought for, I could go on. He’s by far the most sensitive and empathetic of the squad and definitely would be suited to being an Edgedancer. His spren is named Persical and they usually appear as a flowering vine twining around his wrist or through his hair

- Kest is an Elsecaller. Being an elsecaller is all about mastery of the self, rational decision-making, etc etc and that’s Kest’s whole thing. He’d be so good at it. Inkspren everywhere are swooning and fighting over who gets to keep him. His spren is named Gloss. Also I’d like to see a world where Kest Murrowson and Jasnah Kholin are a united front in literally anything. An unstoppable force, immovable object, and asexual icons.

- Valiana is a Windrunner. The very first oath she swore as a Greatcoat was to protect Aline. The windrunners oath to protect goes beyond just one person but she’s got the spirit! She threw herself at men twice her size with next to no training to protect a girl she’d known for, like, a week. She’s a whole other kind of real one and a natural Windrunner, don’t try to argue with this one. Her spren is named Saphaedra.

There are other Greatcoats who I’m sure would be worthy of a Nahel bond but these are the only four I feel strongly about. Now that we’ve set up some basics (loosely stuck Tristia into the Cosmere with scotch tape, given our trattari some surgebinding and a call to adventure to another world to discover the source of these strange powers and voices, etc) we can gush about specifics.

I’m not sure who would break about vorin gender roles first: Valiana and Kest would definitely have the strongest opinions, but unlike Falico and Brasti, they have self-restraint and some modicum of diplomatic ability. I will say Brasti might break first simply because he can’t stand spicy food. We know this. He and Valiana would trade plates at the first meal they have together and intentionally ignore every vorin staring at them aghast.

Speaking of Brasti, he’s the only member of this squad that has light eyes. This is. Interesting to say the least. Because he’s routinely the member of the squad taken the least seriously (take a shot every time someone says, “shut up, brasti” ding dong you have alcohol poisoning) this would cause a great deal of cultural dissonance for an alethi to see the only lighteyed guy in the squad routinely disrespected. NOT TO MENTION brasti is the only one of them who doesn’t use a sword. he uses a bow. which (as i understand it) is a common weapon. for infantry. or whatever (yes shardbows exist this isn’t that). This automatically introduces a cool weird dynamic if these people arrive in alethi society in which he is an oddity for the above reasons. not even to mention all the other ways brasti is an oddity (affectionate).

All of them would be pretty stunned to hear that slavery is actually cool and legal here and would have some choice words to share about the king’s first law. yes, i’m singing it right now.

Gosh, Adolin. if he had any doubts about being bisexual they would vanish the moment he sees Kest fight. you know how cartoon characters will have heart eyes that explode out on springs? yeah that’s him. Ass over teakettle in love, just about begs Kest to spar with him.

[classicschronicles]

Hi lovelies,

‘Carmen et Error’- A Poem and a Mistake (aka my Instagram bio). Anyways this quote just makes me laugh every time I think about it because, of course, it belongs to no other than Ovid. I know he says some questionable things, but he writes it so nicely and I like to think that he was just in a silly goofy mood. Anyways, if you hadn’t guessed yet, todays post is all about the Roman poet Ovid. This post is also for @morallyunethicalintellectualtax because it’s her birthday and she is Ovid’s biggest fan, the ultimate Ovid apologist if you will.

Publius Ovidus Naso (also known as Ovid) was a Roman poet born in 43 BC and is most famously known for his works Ars Amatoria and Metamorphoses. He was born to an old and wealthy family in a small town about 90 miles away from Rome. His family must’ve been pretty well to do as his father was able to send both Ovid and his brother to Rome to be educated. Like almost every other poet ever, Ovid had daddy issues, and despite his fathers disapproval, he neglected his studies in favour of writing poetry. Relatable king.

As a member of the Roman gentry (above the plebeians but not quite at the rank of the senate) Ovid was marked out for an official career and even held some minor judicial posts. He soon decided, however, that he was not suited to this position and abandoned his official career to pursue poetry full time. Literally everyone was kind of confused by this decision because he really did have the makings of a great politician. Indeed, when Augustus became the emperor he tried to recruit Ovid as a politician, but Ovid turned the offer down so he could write his poetry instead.

The first work that he published was the Amores (The Loves), which was met with immediate success, and was very shortly followed by the Heriodes (Epistles of the Heroines). Fun fact, it’s because of the Heriodes that a lot of people consider Ovid a proto-feminist and therefore take a feminist reading to works such as Book 3 of the Ars Amatoria, saying that the book is meant to be seen ironically. All of his works seemed to reflect the pleasure seeking company that came with his position as a well established poet. Details of his life can be found in his autobiographical poem Tristia (Sorrows).

With his position amongst the poets secured, Ovid began to move on to more ambitious works like the Metamorphoses and Fasti. The Metamorphoses was almost complete when his life took a complete 180 and he was exiled, by Augustus, to Tomi (near Constanta, Romania). The exact reason for his exile is still unknown, but Ovid states that it was because of a ‘poem and a mistake’. It is widely accepted that the ‘poem�� was the Ars Amatoria (The Art of Love), which was a controversial set of three didactic poems, instructing on the art of affairs. Given Ovid’s popularity, this was detrimental to Augusts’ programme of moral reform (the Lex Julia) which outlawed infidelity and encouraged childbirth. The ‘mistake’, however, is less agreed upon. Ovid insists that what he did was worse than a crime but that it was a mistake made by an error of his judgment. Some suggest that his exile was due to his affair with the granddaughter of Augustus- Julia (for whom the Lex Julia were named)- as she was also exiled at the same time. I just want to say that if his exile was because he was sleeping with the emperors granddaughter after whom the laws were named, it is the ultimate ultimate slay, and also biggest fuck you. I love it. However, his exile was the milder form (called relegation) and it did not include the confiscation of property or loss of his citizenship. His wife, who was also born to a rich family, remained in Rome to safeguard his interests and to intercede for him.

Despite Augustus banning all of Ovid’s work from public libraries, the immense popularity that Ovid enjoyed during his lifetime continued after his death. From around 1100 onward, Ovid’s fame (which had eclipsed slightly during the Early Middle Ages) began to rival, and on occasion, overtake Virgil. The apparent ‘Age of Ovid’ began in the 12th and 13th centuries, where his work were seen not only as entertaining, but as educating, and his works were taught in schools. His popularity grew during in the Renaissance, particularly amongst humanists who wanted to recreate the classical approached to thought and feeling. The appeal of his writing to the renaissance audience was because it offered an accessible look into Greek mythology and also because of the humanity of his writing. Literally, read the Metamorphoses, it’s sympathetic and heartbreaking and sensual and just amazing.

Anyways. There you have it. A quick fire introduction to Ovid. I think it’s pretty hard to do any justice to his works without just telling you to read it, so yeah everyone go read some Ovid. Happy birthday @morallyunethicalintellectualtax and I hope you all have a lovely rest of your weekend <3

~Z

[majestativa]

I have stained the sun with blackened love…

Osip Mandelstam, Tristia