#trinimac

[trickstarbrave]

honestly i think this is dumber on paper than it was in my head

boethiah ft her two weird little sons. baby nerevar and toddler fa-nuit-hen. coming to demand child support from her shitty ex malacath/trinimac

[the-mercurial-star-o-vesper]

Its easy to think that the Nerevarine, and by connection Nerevar, was a Shezzarine.

... And that's actually false. The Nerevarine / Nerevar is not connected to Lorkhan, not so directly. They are connected to a Different god.

Let me explain.

We can agree through concept art and in-game hidden secrets, that Nerevar was murdered by his council at Red Mountain; by Almalexia, Sotha Sil and Vivec. They did this because they wanted the power of Lorkhan's Heart but Nerevar had forbade it. But they did give him the means to "return" via gruesome ritual of dismemberment.

Now, on the surface, this doesn't sound familiar. Add the Shezzarine element, and everyone from here to Vvardenfell will swear its akin to Lorkhan's death and must be a continuation of the Enantiomorph.

But its not.

In fact, the pattern here, mimic's another pattern also told in Morrowind.

To break it down.

A warrior-king leading soldiers, is tricked and cut down, and through his death, transforms his people.

Starting to sound familiar?

He was cut down by three entities. Almalexia / Boethiah, Sotha Sil / Azura, and Vivec / Mephala. Who only vaguely connect to the big three, Auriel, Magnus, Lorkhan.

And the Chimer became the Dunmer (a people transformed).

And to lead these new people, the new three would use Nerevar's "Voice" to speak Truths. (They became new gods and wrote history as they wanted it until it became "True", and part of that was making it appear that Nerevar had agreed to all this, and had sacrificed himself heroically).

Those who knew the truth (The ashlanders), would be "banished" to an ash land.

Then, Nerevar would return transformed (The Nerevarine), as, in such sense, a vengeful version of himself.

...

Now does it sound familiar?

Nerevar isn't a Shezzarine.

He's a Trinimakhan.

[tindomizel]

Trinimac, Creator of Death

In light of Douglas Goodall's new lore text, The Soft Doctrines of Magnus the Invisible, I have a new theory to propose: Trinimac, by killing Lorkhan, created death, and by extension Arkay. Hear me out. 

“Only the shape-taker's respiration emptied the arc for the thief's eye” 

This is a quote from Enantiodromia, the second part of the four-part text. The shape-taker is obviously Trinimac, who is known as such because of the Boethiah incident, and the thief's eye is referring to Arkay, who is associated with the Thief constellation. To me, this quote is implying that the former made room for the latter to exist (made it possible for Arkay to exist). Expanding on this, before Mundus death did not exist, the et'Ada were infinite and without limitations, which is why Lorkhan created Mundus; to teach their progeny, through the application of limit, how to become without limit. I believe that, when Trinimac killed Lorkhan at the behest of Auri-El, the concept was created. I find it highly likely that Lorkhan always intended for death to be invented, but I'm undecided on whether he planned for it to be created by Trinimac killing him. It does fit nicely into the theory that Lorkhan always intended for his heart to be ripped out– this heart is the heart of the world. Regardless, the first death was a murder.

That quote also somewhat evokes an elven ballad from ESO, Folly of Man, which laments the rise of mankind: “You'll learn what the Corpse-God wrought. Even Trinimac didn’t know, with his final blow, just how badly he'd been caught”. If Trinimac did indeed create death, based on everything we know about him, it's unlikely that he did so intentionally. 

‘Enantiodromia’ itself is defined as the tendency for things to change into their opposites. Is that not what eventually happened to Trinimac?

On Orkey and Trinimalarkay

Orkey is the Nordic god of death, considered a fusion of Arkay+Malacath by many, and is most known for “stealing the Atmorans’ years”, or shortening their lifespans, which is exactly what Trinimac would have done to every mortal by creating death. On top of this, in Nordic legend, Orkey summoned Alduin who “ate almost every Nord down to six years old”. This is interesting because Alduin is, of course, connected to Akatosh/Auri-El, who ordered Trinimac to kill Lorkhan. Trinimac and Auri-El are both responsible for the death of Lorkhan, and both Orkey and Alduin have stolen years away from the Nords/Atmorans. 

So who is Orkey? Is he Trinimac? Isn't Tsun Trinimac? Yes and no. For a long time people have tried to equate Trinimac/Malacath with Arkay through Orkey, and while I don't believe they're the same being, it does seem likely that they're connected. Arkay was created unintentionally by Trinimac through the murder of Lorkhan, and their relationship is somewhat similar to Peryite and Akatosh or Lorkhan and Namira. They are connected but Arkay is still ultimately a separate being. The Nords combined Arkay (‘death’) with his creator in an attempt to explain how he came into existence. This would explain how Tsun (who is theorised to be the Nordic equivalent of Trinimac) is present in the Nordic pantheon alongside Orkey, and how Trinimac is present in the Altmeri pantheon alongside Xarxes (who is theorised to be the Altmeri equivalent of Arkay). 

And finally, tri-nymic and Arkay, Zenithar and Stendarr.

“Trinimac is probably one of the least understood underpinnings of the whole pantheon. I like him that way, but I would study Mithras if you really want to find out more” -Michael Kirkbride

To summarise, Mithras was a Greco-Roman god, inspired by Mithra, the Iranian god of the sun, justice, contract, and war. Mithra was part of the Ahuric Triad, along with Ahura Mazda (the creator deity, god of the sky), and Apam Napat (god of water). Although this may be boring, I believe tri-nymic is simply a reference to the Ahuric Triad. The Ahuric Triad reminds me of Padomay, Anu and Nir as well. Padomay is, of course, Lorkhan and Anu is Auri-El. What if Trinimac is Nir (the catalyst, the first possipoint)? 

Finally, I am a big fan of @ayem's theory that Trinimac was always padomaic. Trinimac pretended to be anuic– and tried to be anuic– so that he could serve Auri-El, but ultimately he could only be Mauloch. The Roads seems to be about how one can only be what they are, which is a recurring theme in The Elder Scrolls.

“Hue is governed by momentum. As much as manifold Meridia loves the Blind, even orphans cannot change their color.”

This quote is obviously about Meridia, but I think it also applies to Trinimac. There are also countless parallels between Meridia and Trinimac: they were both champions of more powerful gods, they both tried (and failed) to be something else, and, in my opinion, Meridia assumed Trinimac's role as ‘warden’ of Nirn after his ‘death’.

Narratively, I think Trinimac accidentally creating death is a very important moment in his story. It's the moment that proves to him, without a doubt, that he will never be able to escape or erase what he is. He tried to be something static, unchanging, and yet he created death– the final destination, the unavoidable end. What is death if not the ultimate transition? No matter how hard you try, you cannot escape your nature.

Some more random thoughts:

In Nordic legend, Alduin/Orkey's curse is thrown onto the orcs by Ysmir Wulfharth, who is believed to be a Shezarrine. I feel like this could be a reference to how the orcs were also transformed/suffered when Trinimac was defeated by Boethiah (who hoped to avenge Lorkhan).

Additionally, Malacath's realm is the ashpit and ashes are associated with death.

[aetherialfalmer]

Back from the dead for Snelf headcanons bc Skyrim is my coping mechanism rn

The order of Jephre had no magnificent chantry but a hidden grove very similar to the Eldergleam Sanctuary. Bosmeri exiles from Valenwood weren't uncommon to see there, but they often worked to repent for their exile. The priests would tend to the hidden natural wonders across their landscape and soothe the spirirs of nature. Or even answer their requests to promote peace between the parties.

Archivists fell under the order of Xarxes. They were known to keep archives in a few major cities, but not just anyone could wander into their collections. Obviously, they were protective of their secrets and knowledge, so only highly esteemed snelves could have clearance. Even if they had permission, they were still highly monitored. Good luck stealing from their archives when they stood.

Initiate Paladins had grueling entry exams such as the pilgrimage of the Forgotten Vale, but it went much further after that. They'd be made to sit in the cold with just their robes and recite teachings of Auriel. Usually, their training sessions were held during the day so Auriel could witness.

Trinimac wasn't as popular as others in the Falmeri pantheon, but his order was far from weak. Those devoted to Trinimac often pledged to uphold the image of an honorable warrior like their patron god. However, they could be a bit brutal at times, so they were effective executioners of justice.

The Chantry of Magnus was theorized to be where current day Winterhold stands, but scholars debate on the myth.

Magnus was very popular among any mage in the Falmeri dominion. When a Snow Elf won a magical duel, they'd give thanks to Magnus for their survival.

Necromancy was looked down upon unless it was for channeling purposes. It was a rare practice but often used for guidance from previous masters in desperate times. In all practices, they tried to steer away from using a corpse. They viewed it as tearing the soul from Aetherius.

The priests and priestesses of Mara cared for children orphaned by their mother perishing at birth.

Interestingly, there was a phenomenon coined by Falmeri healers called "Mara's Rage." It was said when a falmer was horrifically assaulted, Mara would give the victim a piece of her aedric anger. Her anger would fuel the victims, and they would pursue their assiliant for revenge.

Syrabane's order was very popular among alchemists and healers. His legends of warding off disease were the inspiration for many young apprentices to begin their studies.

[whitegoldtower]

For the first time ever I’m playing an orc! 🤩 And I may or may not be absolutely smitten with him.

His name is Moth, he’s a pale orc with white hair, and he’s a devout of Boethiah (for an orc, would be like being a Christian Satanist).

He lives for pain and its ✨intricacies✨, you see. (if you know who the inspiration is, you have taste)

He achieves divine strength through suffering, and is something of a flagellant. He wears a cilice garter, has a heavily scarred face, and his body is practically covered in tattoos. There are also small nods to Mephala in his tattoo designs, as he honours her, too as she aided Lord Boethiah in the Prince’s fight with Trinimac.

(The story goes that Trinimac led armies of elves against humans and Boethiah, seeing him as the strongest, consequently ate him to assume his shape in order to create the Orcs and Chimer. The Prince then essentially shat him back out and Trinimac became Malacath, a weaker and more vengeful version of his prior self.)

Moth rejects worship of Malacath in favour of worship of Boethiah, because the suffering he endured should have made him stronger, yet it instead twisted him into something less powerful. So in Moth’s eyes, Trinimac/Malacath failed, and the Orcs should instead owe their creation to Boethiah.

A hot take, and one that is widely unpopular with other orcs, hence why he keeps his distance. He keeps such a distance, in fact, that he joins the Volkihar Clan. Despite being a vampire, he remains ever faithful to Boethiah, seeing this extra layer of suffering (being unable to enter the sunlight and being forever hungry) as a way to gain strength through devotion. He also joins the dark brotherhood to satisfy his religious fervour for stealthy and bloody sacrifice.

The ultimate suffering, for him, however, is when Boethiah demands a sacrifice of importance to him, and he chooses his most beloved follower to slay at the Sacellum of Boethiah. He revels in his grief, sure that it will make him stronger…

But it gnaws away at him. He begins to question himself. He has Boethiah’s favour. He is the Lord’s champion. But at what cost?

If it hurts, he’s doing it right. Right?

One of two things is going to happen. The certainty, here, is he is going to see parallels between himself and Trinimac/Malacath. It’s just a case of ✨when✨.

Either he will recognise what has happened immediately and devote himself to Boethiah even more violently, refusing to become like Malacath in favour of remaining strong like Trinimac…

Or he will only recognise what has happened after he has become a vengeful, hollow, weakened husk of his former self.

(Also as a funny side note, due to some weird glitch/bug, Moth cannot swim. Dude sinks like a brick. He also gags whenever he has to test alchemy ingredients (even if they’re pleasant).)

[tyote]

Malacath. (TES: Daggerfall, 1996)

[ladyluscinia]

I have finally gotten around to playing through the Orsinium questline in ESO for the first time, and I think the whole thing actually makes much more sense if you headcanon that the real "villain" of the chapter is Boethiah.

Like... Ok, so the fundamental problem with revealing that Kurog plans to kill all the chiefs who won't bend the knee and seize power by force to implement his orc kingdom vision is that if he simply said that part openly then it would just be orc politics? Probably the kind that would get some orcs judging him for being too bloodthirsty / ambitious, but he openly murdered a chief in his throne room and everyone just shrugged at how emotional orc men are. The culture that does ritual challenges and death duels for leadership positions absolutely would accept a guy taking over rival clans and killing off their leaders as a valid method of (temporary) kingmaking, even if a bit gauche.

Mixing it up by adding the whole Trinimac vs Malacath religious angle doesn't really do anything, either, since his attempts to impose a new state religion help explain why diplomacy isn't working but not why force wouldn't work. Trinimac is if anything more of a warrior god than Malacath, and you would think worshippers of a champion of honor would be even less inclined to use a secret cult to frame their political enemies and scapegoat for assassinations. They'd become corrupt crusaders or something. Also they kinda suck at the subterfuge part - like a Boethiah plot being enacted by small children.

...So what if it was a Boethiah plot??? 👀

Follow my train of thought here - Boethiah is down to fuck with Malacath / the orcs for reasons ranging from "it's Tirdas" to "my inter-cult gladiatorial fights are boring recently", going all the way back to the original incident of eating Trinimac to stop his cult from interfering with the Chimer, pretending to be him for some light heresy, and then leaving him twisted into Malacath (and turning his elven followers into orcs).

Boethiah is also a Daedric Prince associated with plots, conspiracy, deceiving nations, and overthrowing governments to seize power.

I think it sounds fantastically plausible that Boethiah would notice an orc trying to restore Orsinium and all the ingredients for a truly fantastic implosion of a civil war among Malacath's children (including of all things a resurgence of Trinimac worship, which is bait if I've ever seen it) and decide to start backing a faction. For chaos. Especially since Boethiah's other main canonical thing going on in this timeframe is inspiring a Dunmer woman named Vox to start a cult to overthrow the Tribunal, while also appearing to a hero as an avatar named "Aspera" to help them kill Vox for the fuck of it.

(Boethiah is so fun 😆)

So here's the rough skeleton of how I headcanon all this connecting:

🗡️ Kurog doesn't seem to be a particularly devout Trinimac worshipper, and High Priestess Solgra mentions him being skeptical at first - implying she was invited to Orsinium by his mother before he truly converted. Solgra is definitely a true believer who converted in Summerset, while Forge-Mother Alga is definitely the driving force behind the very un-Trinimac-like Vosh Rakh.

🗡️ It seems like the Forge-Mother is the first one who got on the Trinimac train, possibly around when Kurog was first joining the Covenant and starting his Orsinium project. I'm guessing there was a small Trinimac following in Wrothgar without much clout, but they managed to catch Alga's interest. And, I'm speculating, Boethiah's.

🗡️ Alga apparently goes in hard on Trinimac. She's inviting a High Priestess to set up a giant temple, angling to convert her son, and soon declaring Trinimac worship the law of the land. She's also fully embracing a political schemer role that is not remotely in line with Trinimac's vibe and soon to establish a secret police cult that she can publicly disavow. Despite this, I think Alga's far more devout than Kurog ever is - she genuinely seems to think she's getting divine blessing.

🗡️ Theory - A little while after Alga converts, her new god bestows his favor on her and starts directly communicating / inspiring her to set up all the Vosh Rakh stuff... only it's actually Boethiah, speaking to her while impersonating Trinimac in a classic move. Explains the backstabbing, subterfuge, planned coup, all of it. She brings in Solgra to be the palatable face (and convince her son) while not noticing at all that there's some cognitive dissonance in her actions vs teachings. Ah, the hubris of a "chosen one."

🗡️ Boethiah is having a grand time making orcs unknowingly turn away from Malacath for her while thinking they serve Trinimac, and getting to whisper "kill all the chiefs loyal to Malacath and frame the (actual) Trinimac High Priestess for it" is just the icing on the cake. Would Alga and Kurog's plan have just started a civil war? Probably. And Boethiah would have been thrilled. Shame Bazrag managed to reduce casualties at the end, but it was still very worth the destabilizing. 😌

[nientedenada]

High Isle Antiquities

Amalien

Oh, black pearls! According to the Bedtime Tales of Borwaeliel, they're the result of Trinimac slicing off a handful of Hermaeus Mora's beady little eyes and scattering them across the Eltheric. So, be careful handling them!

There's a (presumably Altmer) story about Trinimac cutting out Mora's eyeballs! I wanna read more of it!

[vosh-rakh]

tes summerfest 2023 - august 7th - "teeth"

cw: mild nsfw, some blood and gore

-

“They’re growing back.”

The room was cast in a thick twilight gloom, the floor strewn with discarded pieces of armor. Trinimac stood mostly naked in front of a mirror, inspecting his mouth, while Boethiah sat on the edge of the massive bed, pulling on his ebon boots. He barely looked up from what he was doing as he asked, “What?”

“My lower teeth.” Trinimac rubbed the supernaturally growing nubs of his lower canines, which were almost long enough to peek over his lips. “I used to file them down. But I haven’t in a while. Should I?”

“Hm,” Boethiah grunted. He finished fastening his boots and stood, approaching the mirror. He looked into it for a moment before turning to look at the man himself. “No. They’re…handsome.”

Trinimac turned his head towards his lover. “You think so? Auri-el said they made me look like a savage beast.” 

“Damn what Auri-el thinks!” Boethiah grabbed Trinimac by the jaw, forcing the other god to turn his entire body to face him. “Worry about what I think.”

Despite the black gauntlet wrapped around his mouth, Trinimac managed to garble, “And what do you think?”

“I think,” Boethiah said with a smirk, “that the sun has barely risen. Why should we leave yet?”

Trinimac smiled also, and grabbed Boethiah’s wrist, removing his hand from his jaw. He pushed Boethiah back, sending him tumbling into the bed, which creaked and groaned under the weight of the armor. Trinimac lunged at Boethiah, mounting him in one swift leap, and began to tear away at his armor with animalistic need, clawing at pieces of plate, peeling the dense black mail from Boethiah’s wiry, ashen body. Boethiah grunted, but was not only accustomed to this type of behavior from his lover, but relished watching the noble knight disintegrate into a howling beast.

Boethiah reached up with bare grey hands and pulled Trinimac into a kiss. It only lasted a moment, as Trinimac pulled away and pinned Boethiah’s wrists to the bed. Then he leaned his head back in, and Boethiah, expectant, tilted his head away for access. Trinimac wrapped his teeth around Boethiah’s neck, scraping gently at the skin there in the way he himself enjoyed most.

“No,” Boethiah moaned. “Harder.”

Trinimac obliged, clamping down with his mouth. Sure to leave a bruise, he thought, but that’s the way Boethiah likes it.

“Harder,” Boethiah gasped, squirming underneath Trinimac’s weight.

Trinimac obliged, digging his teeth and growing tusks into the skin, and he tasted blood. Something was coming, he could feel it as he pressed himself against Boethiah’s body. But he had to resist.

“Harder!” Boethiah screamed, his knee rising to rub between Trinimac’s legs.

Trinimac bit at full force, tearing through the skin and muscle, and instinctively he tore his head away, ripping away a mouth-sized chunk of flesh.

“Son of a bitch!” Boethiah shouted, his knee crashing hard between Trinimac’s legs. He tore his wrists from Trinimac’s now loosened grip and shoved him away off the bed before clutching at the bleeding wound on his neck. “What the fuck!”

Trinimac spat out the pulsing chunk of flesh and said, “You said -”

“Fuck what I said! Give it back!”

“What?”

“I want it back! Give it to me!” Boethiah reached out his other hand expectantly.

Trinimac quickly searched the area around the bed, finding the piece of shorn god-meat resting between a bedpost and the nightstand. He grabbed it frantically and handed it to Boethiah.

Boethiah snatched the chunk from Trinimac’s hand and quickly slapped it back on his neck. He held it there for a moment before letting go, satisfied it would reconstitute itself to his body. “Don’t you ever steal from me again,” he admonished, turning away from kneeling Trinimac with crossed arms.

“I’m sorry,” Trinimac stammered. “You said you - I thought - so I - nevermind. I’ll just go.” He swiftly gathered together his armor in his arms without putting it on and left the room.

Boethiah tenderly picked at the disappearing seams of the wound. Regret tried to well up within him, but he pushed it away, and sulked.

[lanaevyssmoved]

your url is so unfortunate bc i think in my quest to block baldur’s gate 3 content from my dash i’ve also nuked all your posts :(

oh my god you killed me

[lemonlimebitcoin]

so i am a very long time homestuck fan (+10 years) and i was really disappointed with the direction hs^2 (and to a lesser extent the epilogues) went. before i potentially waste time and get myself riled up reading it, i want to ask you: does "beyond canon" follow the same plot as hs^2 wherever it left off or is it a kind of reboot?

Good question! It picks up right where hs^2 stopped, and is still stuck using the set-up from it and the epilogues. I'm grateful I read hs^2 on a whim earlier this year because I do NOT think I could have read through it just to get to this first BC update.

If you end up wanting to give it a shot anyway I'd reccomend maybe waiting a couple months for now? The new update is short so I can't reccomend you jump back into a setting you hate for a 15 minute read, no matter how optimistic the new team and direction has left me.

[the-mercurial-star-o-vesper]

Going on from Trinimac (He's my favorite god of the Elder Scrolls), the way his story goes is interesting.

So.

In story, we know he gets "consumed" by Boethiah and Boethiah takes his form, and talks to people about Truths, and afterwards, Trinimac is diminished into Malacath and Boethiah goes on to lead the Dunmer.

This? This is interesting for several reasons.

( Now for the sake of me not doing a bunch of research, pulling sources, and trying to parse the esoteric deep lore of TES and the manic writings of Kirkbride, I'm sticking with Morrowind's in-game books, such as "The Changed Ones" and "Variaties of Faith". I'll prolly get to more esoteric stuff at a later post? When the thought hits me. )

They know that its Boethiah Talking and not Trinimac.

Trinimac Worship is not picked up again after this, even though he was the strongest and more favored god.

There has been no attempt to turn Malacath back into Trinimac. As impossible as this sounds, I need to point out the power of belief in the Elder Scrolls and the idea of objects and rituals. If you can Break Akatosh, Time itself, you can reverse what happened to Trinimac (who was changed by considerably less strenuous means). If you can mantle the Dead God Lorkhan (Talos), then you can revive the God Knight. ... Nobody has done this, however.

Orismer are then paraih'd from the Aldmer / Altmer, with no attempts to reunite, renegotiate, or anything--just an immediate marking them as no better than Ogres and Goblins. Worse still, if you read "Pig Children", it seems that a lot of the sentience on Tamerial don't like orcs.

Trinimac's story, by his own former people, the Old / High Elves, is reduced to propoganda made against Dunmer worship. And this, is coming from the same peoples who want to return to pre-dawn and despise Lorkhan. You'd think that they'd keep Trinimac worship for that reason, if nothing else.

Boethiah is the deceiver of nations, they're one of the worst daedra to run into given their ruthless bloodthirsty nature, and they're attached to conspiracy and deceit.

... So if they knew it was Boethiah, why listen? Why trust it?

Especially if you know that this Daedric Prince, anathema of Auri-el and Aedra, is prancing around in your most favorite of gods? I'm pretty certain playing puppet with someone else's body is a violation worthy of raising alarm.

There's only one reasonable answer:

It wasn't Boethiah.

Something to note about the Aedra of the Elder Scrolls. They're bound to interpretation. The closest we're gonna get to pre-dawn et'Ada (What everyone was before the creation of Mundus and Nirn, so Before the "dawn") are certain Daedra.

To take example.

Kyne of the Nords, and Kynareth of the Imperials, are of the same "Oversoul" or rather, the same Aedra, but are not the same God. In fact, Kynareth was created / born from Cyrodiilic interpretations of Kyne. Kyne and Kynareth are fully capable of meeting each other as unique individuals, inspite technically being the same person, and potentially, even being against one another.

( Find any Auri-el vs Akatosh argument. Auriel doesn't like Nirn or mortality or probably humans, but Akatosh likes the place and doesn't like anyone fucking with it or the mortals. )

Collective belief will create Gods, provided there's an Aedra niche for them to come from.

( Probably the price of sacrificing bits of yourself to create things, plays into now only having power if someone can perceive you. )

( It also kinda brings in the idea that a Daedra can, in fact, become an Aedra if they are willing to sacrifice parts of themselves to expand the Mundus. Gotta remember that most of them are all Et'Ada, they are fully capable of performing those feats. Daedra and Aedra are just outdated perspectives by Aldmer. )

Anyway.

Why isn't it Boethiah.

Because, following how Aedra work? Boethiah was the Velothi Aspect of Trinimac. But because they were Aldmer undergoing a schism, it wasn't so cleanly defined as Kyne and Kynareth or Stuhn and Stendarr.

The God tore himself, under the schism of multiple interpretations.

And because each interpretation was, in of itself, a live God, and because most of those interpretations didn't fit with the greater popularity...

... Suddenly, your most Favorite God pops up into his Temple and talks about how He was Wrong. Speaks about what the Mundus is really meant to be, and how to work it.

And with that? Because that's a God talking, that's THE God talking, things he says must be true...

That's when you get the massive underlying cultural shift.

Trinimac is branded an oathbreaker, a liar, a hypocrite, and against his own aspect, by the very Aldmeri populace, and the result is that the gods schisms so badly that it divorces itself from the Mundus, and falls to pieces.

Those who still believed in him after this, were changed to Orcs, and were branded just as pariah as their god. And that's how you got Malacath, the only surviving piece and not even that good of one.

Those who believed his new truth, that part walked away as Boethiah, and lead Veloth, and the newly changed Chimer. And in fact, that's where the idea that Boethiah wore him came from, because that was the aspect that survived to keep speaking the new truths.

( There are other surviving fragments, but I'll get into them at a later time. Trinimac didn't completely succeeded in killing his Men-Counterpart )

And though Trinimac is still acknowledged as champion of Auriel, there are no more new worshipers. The truths he spoke were too terrible to return to his old worship. Because why worship what you know are lies?

Of course, as time rode on, Malacath and Boethiah were further and further estranged from their old roots. Boethiah doesn't lead peoples anymore, and Malacath sticks to his strongholds over reigning vengence against people (let alone the Altmer or Dunmer).

But its funny how a certain point of view can make the difference.

ADDENDUM:

And what of Veloth? Well, a dude can't just randomly get visions out of the ether and decide to leave home to go into the wilderness for no reason. Visions, here, are granted by gods.

This schism, it started somewhere. While it ended in the fragmentation of a god...

... It might just have been started by that very god.

There is no greater lie than the lies we tell ourselves, when we know we've done something horrible, to ourselves and to others.

That perhaps, under orders and belief, in a times of war and betrayal, a knight-general over armies killed the shieldbrother of the enemy king, and then tore the heart from that king.

[ down in front of his army and reached in with more than hands to take his Heart ]

Perhaps it was ordered by another king. Perhaps it was justice for lives now forever lost in creation as earth bones. Perhaps it was simply because so he could prove he Could.

[ As their aspects began to die off, many of the et'Ada vanished completely ]

[ shook his head at this, for he was akin to Tsun and did not care much for logic-talk as much as he did only for his own standing ]

And then he was left behind by the new king.

In such grief, its easy to ask... Why. He did everything right. He got Justice, he proved He could. He did everything right, so why?

[ Everything is spoiled, for now, and for all time, and the most we can do is teach the Elven Races to suffer nobly, with dignity, and chastise ourselves for our folly, and avenge ourselves upon Shezarr and his allies ]

Gods aren't meant to feel grief. Perhaps he went a-searching.

Perhaps he consorted with Daedra. Found the xarxes, and read direction. Looked upon Dawn and Dusk, and found beauty. Found the Web, saw the secrets.

( After all, it was murder, wasn't it? When you cut out the heart of a god and kill him perma-dead, leaving only his ghost, that is murder. That is consorting with Mephala. )

[ Know that battle is a blessing. Know that death is an eventuality. Know that you are dust in the eyes of-- ]

Found the Cycle, and he was apart of it. Revenge is always a Cycle. And when your first remembered act is murder, Death becomes your domain.

[ I am alive because that one is dead. I exist because I have the will to do so. And I shall remain as long as there are signs of my handwork, such as the blood dripping from this blade. ]

Perhaps he found himself, in the man he killed to find the now dead king. For after all, if death was his domain, surely he would know where souls go--

[ Died defending Shor from foreign gods ]

-- and merely found himself.

[ fell at sunrise and became replaced by mirrors ]

That perhaps One King over the Other was merely a perspective.

[ would hate the same-twin on the other end of the aurbrilical cord ]

[ I AM NOT ]

Death is merely finding the End, and at the end of it all, was a Tower, and he had the Key.

[ is the heart of the world, for one was made to satisfy the other ]

and you don't become sheild-thane god for another god for no one, and not for no reason.

[ the ashen-amalgamation of his sons that had survived ]

When your various dream selves are bound by interpretation, all this means is waiting for someone to tell the knowledge to. Someone who has just the right belief and understanding, that you can reach.

Especially you cannot reach the wandering, because you felled the self that could have talked to them.

[ and swore blood vengeance on the heirs of Auriel for all time ]

That perhaps this all started, because of the grief and guilt of the son who stole his fathers' lives.

[ then ascended to heaven in full observance of his followers so that they might learn the steps needed to escape the mortal plane ]

[ withdrew from the creation of the world at the last second, though it cost him dearly ]

[ dooming him to the underworld ]

[ He was undone ]

And for those who are trapped--

[ cast down their jailer king ]

--but have a chance to escape.

[ the rules of Psijic Endeavor ]

... And he just needed the right ear.

( Sorry for the trippiness. But I do so like writing something that looks like it could've walked right outta "V for Vendetta". Lots o quotes from lots o places. )

[kagrenacs]

kayd. did you blow up moose post.

Whoops! It just spoke to me, moose have been on my mind

[therealvagabird]

Skyrim, Falmer, Trin-Malac

I've been going thru it so it's been a while, but new writing up on my blog!

If you'll indulge me, it's Elder Scrolls fanfiction.

What happens when a devotee of Malacath gains a fixation on the Falmer of Skyrim? Find out in the story of Utuno gro-Malac.

[falmerbrook]

HABBY BIRFDAY

TANK YOU!!!

[punkyparker]

get absolutely digested idiot