#transmasc or transfem or transneutral or secret fourth things

[punkeropercyjackson]

Hobie core

[monsterbutch]

not transmasc transfem or transneutral but a secret fourth thing

[cloudeling]

i am not transmasc, transfem, nor transneutral, but a secret fourth thing

[punkeropercyjackson]

Y'know what i just figured out why i think people saying Gwen immediately seeing Jessica as a potential mom figure is m@mmy shit is a dumb as fuck take and it's because i'm an adult black woman who's befriended a lot abused teenagers like Gwen and they see me as their parent because of said abuse since i'm actually nice to them so i know for a fact that's just normal behavior.The her exploating Hobie one is absolutely unhinged though,please google what being friends is and also never speak to a homeless person ever

[punkeropercyjackson]

Hobie dosen't 'look like a pervert' or 'dress like a slut' and is actually incredibly sweet-looking and literally wears more clothes than all the other Spiderpeople except Jessica,he's just black and you're just racist

[punkeropercyjackson]

"Hobie would be so embarrased to do cutesy things or be close to someone who does!"Oh my fucking god,shut UP-Not only does he walk around in lipstick and a crop top but he's also SpiderPUNK,not SpiderMAN.There is ZERO masculinity insecurity in him and punk isn't edgy for the sake of edge,it's about nonconformity and being yourself and standing up for people who don't fit in as much as it is direct action because you can't be anti-corruption and fight for equality by shaming people for being different from you in ways that aren't bad,that's dumb asf and misses the point!!If Gwen wants to do pastel transfemme things with him or Miles wants him to join in on sillykid activities or Pavitr has to ask him to give girl advice on Gayatri to the point it leads to him sneaking off on their date to help or Margo gets him a game emulator so he can play Animal Crossing and dressup games and dating sims with her or Peni needs him to take extra care of her post-canon event by making her feel like she did before with things like cooking her japanese sweets and giving her a lot of physical affection,then YOU BET YOUR ASS HE'S GOING TO AND LOVE EVERY SECOND OF IT BECAUSE HE LOVES THEM!!!!! Mans deadass canonically turns pink when he's happy,how tf do you get 'dosen't like cute things' from that?????Hobie's got too much street cred to give two shits about 'proving' to randos he's an actual punk,stop making him a normie because the only punk you know is that nigga from the Avril song💀

[punkeropercyjackson]

Hobie coming home after underaged drinking at a pub and seeing Miles first thing when he got to the Spiderband's base

[punkeropercyjackson]

Graph looks like shit,sorry Hobs,but anywayyyyyyy!!!

The Amazing Spiderman 2014,issues 10-15(debut)

Spiderverse 2015,issue 2(With Great Power,Comes No Future)

Web Warriors,issues 7-11(Ghostpunk first meeting!!)

Edge of Spidergeddon,issue 1

Spidergeddon,issues 0-5

Spiderverse 2019,issue 1(Punkflower first meeting!!)

Spidergwen:Ghostspider,issue 4(Only appears at the the start but Gwen and Hobie connection stays real!)

Spiderpunk(Solo ft.MY Avengers!!)

Marvel's Voices:Spiderverse,issue 1

Arms Race 2023(Warning for double jumpscare of Killmonger hair Hobie + Whitewashed Hobie,he literally looks like how Percabeth stans be drawin' Leah Jeffries)

[punkeropercyjackson]

Once y'all realize Hobie is punk because he's a black person living under systematic oppression and persecution and needed and still needs a way to protect himself and others like him and to claim and take pride in his culture and heritage,that's when we'll be able to have good Hobie discussions instead of stereotypical antiblack depictions and ship discourse.And just fyi,by the last part i mean y'all anti Ghostpunk/Punkflower headasses who keep tryna say they think Hobie is unlovable in proggressive wording because you think of him as a fucking minstrel show instead of a beautifully written black character who's desirable and chased after by both mcs but also exists on his own.Hobie's not a walking exposition or an aesthetic or a trope,he was written as much of a person as the rest of the cast so take a hint.You're supposed to treat him like one and not just your 24/7 activist with no personhood,just like you should real black people

[punkeropercyjackson]

Any and every teen Spiderperson when they meet Hobie Brown:

[punkeropercyjackson]

FUCK FUCK FUCK I COMPLETELY FORGOT THE ACTUAL POINT I WAS GONNA SAY ON MY 'Hobie hates cute things is a ratio ass take' POST WHICH IS Hobie expressed all his beliefs very clearly onscreen-He's anti-capitalism,he believes in solidarity between all minorities but prioritizes other black people,he's completely nonconformist and he thinks people who're considered 'super lame' are his friends by default.That's why i said Margo would get him a game emulator instead of a game console and also want to add on that if he wants merch of anything from something that's not by a small studio he just diy's copies of them and learns recipes of big food chains instead of going to the restaurants,as a black person he's obviously experienced tons of masculanization that was used as dehumanization too and again he wears a crop top and lipstick so i think it's obvious how he's decided to respond and i really doubt he'd be that close to Gwen and Miles if he thought softness and 'immaturity' are something that should be made fun of in other kids.What i'm trying to say is you guys are making Hobie out to be a trope instead of fully fleshed out representation with traits that actively contradict what he's actually like and ngl i find it insulting towards him that you guys actually think Hobie's enough of a supersized pissbaby to get whiny over not being a macho edgecase 24/7 even when the nigga literally killed a police chief at like,16 at the OLDEST,and as i will never stop saying:Canon femme,pink-coded,Dad Friend.As long as it's not shit that goes against actual punk rules,he'd do doing pretty much anything the Spiderband wants with them but they wouldn't to begin with anyway because by the time they'd gotten the chance to hang out normally he'd already radicalized them.Please,read multiple books,punk is a legit culture and pastel punks exist-Hi,it's me!!!-and i'm specifically talking about this because y'all the same slapping the punk label onto any edgelord who has disproven they are as like their arc even.THERE WE GO FINALLY Sorry,i have unmedicated adhd demons

[punkeropercyjackson]

It's making me go insane that people call their Hobie redesigns 'fem presenting' because.What the actual fuck are you talking about,he's CANONICALLY fem presenting???He wears a crop top and lipstick and paints his nails and is like the one guy in the whole franchise with long hair other than Miles G even if it's in wicks???There's also how battle jackets and doc martens and ripped pants aren't masc in punk culture,they're gender neutral,but his battle jacket is a small one instead of the more common bulky kind so i'm like.How do get 'not fem' or even 'masc' from that?Is it because he wears pants and has a backbone and self-confidence💀Not every femme dude is a peppy pink boygirl and i'm saying that as a proud peppy pink boygirl himself-Edge dosen't equal masculinity smfh

[punkeropercyjackson]

I think a lot of Spiderverse fans are forgetting that while Hobie is canonically a flirt as seen with Gwen and Miles(and Pavitr too if you want),he's also like.Not a dick about it.Yeah he's got a big ego but it's not like he degrades any of his crushes with it,he brags and tries to act cool to impress them,not make them feel insecure or like they've been given god's gift with his attention and he's never mean with his remarks like.....at ALL,he teases them lightheartedly in a way that implies romantic intent.He's legit attracted to them with no ulterior motives and he's just trying to be nice,can you guys stop making him like act like That.I'm not gonna get into the age discourse rn but i think it's weird to make him a horndog even if you interpret him as an adult like i'm sorry but if you do then there's no evidence for that because then he'd have only really interacted with minors(the Spiderkids).You don't even have to hc him as ace like i do,Just Please Be Normal About Alt Black Dudes Regardless Of What Age You Think They Are

[punkeropercyjackson]

Pedojacketing comments under Punkflower and Ghostpunk posts is dumb asf because Hobie is obviously 17 to Miles and Gwen's 15 and 16 from watching the movie alone but also because

Y'all acting real morally superior over thinking a cute lil black boy is actually a grown ass man🤨First result i'm going nuts man,where do you all get OFF(I know,you're getting off to Hobie.The l i l b o y,you niggas are SICK)

[punkeropercyjackson]

Willow:Babe,i think i'm pan

Hunter:That's great,honeybee,i'm so happy for you!!!

Vee:And i'm pretty sure i'm a lesbian

Hunter,surprised:Do any of us not like girls?

Gus:I don't :D

[punkeropercyjackson]

What a fantastic day to remind everyone that Hobie Brown is canonically a twink.I'm not joking or insulting him,i love that scrawny ass femme faggot