#tpoe musical

[a-nybodys]

if you really wanna be depressed go listen to 'the plagues' from the prince of egypt movie and then immediately after listen to 'the plagues' from the prince of egypt the musical.

[not-mary-sue]

The Act 1 finale of The Prince of Egypt (stage musical version) is so good. It's a shame about, you know, the rest of the show.

[xxxcertifiednerdxxx]

The biggest challenge of the plane ride was not crying while listening to the musical numbers in the prince of egypt

[autistic-ben-tennyson]

PoE: Actual Thoughts

This is going to be my last post regarding the discourse that I was responsible for starting. A lot of people probably think I hate the movie and am Lily Orchard 2.0 because of what those like spot-the-antisemitism claim. I’ll be leaving my actual opinions on it as well as the fandom and why I don’t love it as much as I used to. Contrary to what Zionists like Emperorsfoot claim, I can think for myself and have my own beliefs.

TPoE used to be one of my favorite movies. I wrote an essay back in 9th grade encouraging people to watch it because it had great music, great animation and an emotional story one could appreciate regardless of their religious beliefs. I still think it’s a good piece of filmmaking and has its place in theological and historical discussions. James Baxter worked on some of the animation sequences and would later create iconic moments from shows like Adventure Time and Steven Universe.

So what’s the problem? Well, the reason my opinion towards has soured is multifaceted. Being an anime fan has played a role in me seeing it as just another movie as opposed to the greatest animated film ever due to watching movies such as Spirited Away, Suzume or The End of Evangelion. Its fandom is another thing I dislike. Some say you can’t let fandom ruin something for you but if a majority of the people in a fandom are jerks, then it’s valid to not want to engage.

While it was wrong for me to call it “Zionist propaganda”, I have gotten anon hate from its stans including suicide bait. So many of the people in the notes of the post as well as the OP were either transphobic radtrads like griseldafury21, “vote blue no matter what” liberals like Short-wooloo or all the fandom Zionists like Prismatic-bell. YouTube comments are full of “anti woke” creationists using it to trash modern Hollywood, which is terrible but not for the reasons they claim. Liberal Zionists do use it to support their view of themselves as perpetual victims who can do no wrong. Killing people is okay as long as they’re oppressive in their eyes, whether Egyptian or Palestinian.

So maybe I do dislike it but not because I think it’s a bad movie or propaganda, but because it’s fandom has soured me towards it. One could certainly use its liberation message as a commentary on the oppression of Palestinians but that probably won’t get any support from the movie’s top fans. The behavior of the hardcore fans is what has turned me off to it, especially their concern trolling over gofundme scams. Same reason why I’ve been less enthusiastic towards Steven Universe. Still has a place in my heart and was a big factor in my anime obsession but the amount of fans who are racist milquetoast liberals has pushed me away from the fandom. I don’t single out Jews for being Zionists either. I would be disappointed if Rebecca Sugar supported Israel but I’d feel the same about Makoto Shinkai, Hideaki Anno or Dwayne McDuffie, if he was still alive, and others I admire. I judge people based on their actions and principles, not their religion or ethnicity.

So that’s what I actually think of the movie and it’s fans. Some of the songs like “When you believe” are pretty emotional and as someone with a complicated relationship with my brother, the conflict between Moses and Ramses does get a tear out of me, even if that’s not what happened in the Bible. I still have fondness for it, but many of its hardcore fans have ruined it and people’s lack of willingness to criticize any aspect is disappointing. Criticizing it or SU does not make someone Lily Orchard or Lindsay Ellis as people can develop their own opinions without influence. The Prince of Egypt is a great work of art in my opinion but it’s not above criticism and the way people use it as well as other “wholesome” media as a shield should be talked about more.

[thatbanjobusiness]

I consistently post about learning banjo but keep forgetting to share instruments I’ve played longer. So here’s a piano improv! I’ve never read sheet music for this song nor learned it on piano before. I spent a few minutes checking that I’d have a solid chord progression, then hit “record” and had fun.

[sparklingrainbowdragon]

Meanwhile, in Egypt

Nefertari: Ramses, you need to-

Ramses, tearing up: Moses always used to call me Ramses.

Nefertari: Because it's your godsdamn name.

[angedemystere]

[princekiem]

@projectbway  event 02 : adaptions   —  THE PRINCE OF EGYPT

— there can be miracles, when you believe.

[nyxofdiamonds]

counterpoint: the Prince of Egypt

"film majors" mad at me for calling how to train your dragon the pinnacle of cinema how does it feel to know i'm better at your degree than you

[zwiiicnziiix]

Deliver Us has me feeling like

[roadtoeldorado]

im love them!!!! I just wish Miriam wasn’t hidden behind tzipporah so much but I’m glad I have this now since there isn’t a doll for her 💕

[kingofthewilderwest]

Did you create that post about the song in prince of Egypt? If so, thank you. It helped me remember a song I can sing to myself to use for soothing. Thank you.

Oh my goodness, thank you so much! Yes, I did write the analysis “The Music of When You Believe”! I’ve seen that it’s been spread around tumblr a lot lately with some additional wonderful comments; it means so much to me for people to share the analysis, enjoy it, and celebrate the meaning of the song together. And it really means so much to me to receive this comment from you - so thank you in turn for messaging me. The song is beautiful, wonderful, soothing, and inspirational. God bless and take care.

[neverbornoftheouterdark]

There's a musical?! I need to see this!

Prince of Egypt - Movie vs. Musical (West End)

[castiel-cereal]

guys look at my smarty script for science

The intro plays

The Background and music appear

Reporter: “ Hello I’m [name] and welcome back to TPOE, Tracking path of Etiam. Today we will be talking about Etiam and how to prevent it from hitting earth. With us we have our special guest Professor Visoso and Professor Cook.”

Reporter: “So, Professor Visoso, correct me if I’m wrong, but Etiam is charging at Earth?”

Professor Visoso: “Yes, that is correct. According to our calculations, Etiam will hit Earth in about 42 days.”

Reporter: “That sounds terrifying”

Professor Visoso: “Yes, I'm not going to lie, Etiam hitting earth would be very terrifying”

Professor Cook: “Etiam will not just destroy everything, it will also take out all living things on planet earth.

Reporter: “ Will we get hit by Etiam, Professors?”

Professor Visoso: “ We have faith that one of our solutions will prevent Etiam from hitting earth”

Reporter: “And how do you know that will work.”

Professor Visoso: “We have faith that one of our solutions would work because of evidence we have collected.”

Professor Visoso: “The evidence we have so far is from our previous studies of the Chicxulub crater, and how it impacted the historical world.”

Reporter: “What is your hypothesis so far?”

Professor Visoso: “I am almost sure that the asteroid will impact Earth just like the Chicxulub Crater.”

Professor Cook: “The possible impact etiam will have on earth is that it will wipe out most living things on planet earth. This will cause everything to shut down and we will probably have to go into full lockdown, get prepared in the next 42 days the asteroid might hit unless their solution will help us.”

Reporter: Oh, wow. That sounds….very frightening.”

Reporter: “What are the possible solutions to this problem?”

Professor Visoso: “Well, with careful studies, we have found a way to throw Etiam out of Earth’s orbit. It would be a great risk, though. Professor Cook?”

[Professor Cook demonstrates with the model.]

Reporter: “Very clever, Professors!”

Professor Visoso: “Thank you.”

SJJSFJMDSGFHESJD ive done all of this myself so far help

[gilmores-glorious-blog]

i am always available if you need to scream about tpoe, i love it so much. the first time i watched it and heard “elohim, god on high” i was transfixed. it’s the earliest memory i have of music affecting me like that; just sending shivers through my body and piercing my heart.

i am learning all sorts of ratcarney lore from this ask game! you saw lightning thief live, you were in assassins, you hate our lady of the underground...

ratcarney lore is valuable. hang onto it so you can use it against me later.

you made a mistake getting me started on deliver us, by the way. i’m getting carnaval out of the way now so i can wax poetic afterwards: my fav line in carnaval is “since when are latin people scared of heat” because i think it’s hilarious and the girl playing dani in my production would always whip her hair around while saying it, and i thought that was funny.

okay. onto deliver us:

- i remember watching TPOE when i was little and hearing “elohim, god on high/ can you hear your people cry” and being so proud that i recognized the word “elohim” from hebrew school. i also love that the use of “god on high” is deliberate because it rhymes with the holy hebrew name for god in the torah

- yocheved’s hebrew assurances are so gorgeous by themselves (“my good and tender son, don’t be frightened and don’t be scared”), but when paired with the two-hit combo of “my son, i have nothing i can give/ but this chance that you may live,” i DISSOLVE.

- the river lullaby, obviously. i had one of my show choir sopranos sing it for me for her re-audition and god it was sooooo gorgeous. her voice is so nice and the words of the song are so pretty and just,,, [chef’s kiss]

- outstanding moment from river lullaby: the cadence of “such precious cargo you bear” is such a beautiful way to ask the waters to be gentle. i love it SO much

- and of course, miriam’s prayer at the very end. it takes me out every time.

congrats on combining two of my cultures together in one ask btw that was impressive

[tgunn64]

Favorite Villains - Ramses (The Prince of Egypt)

For a long time I considered this character belonging in a moral grey area, but I realized recently that isn’t exactly true. But it stands as a testament to how complex and brilliantly crafted he is; the Pharaoh Ramses in Dreamworks’ adaptation of the bible book Exodus, The Prince of Egypt.

I’m not particularly religious, but in works and such like the Ten Commandments film, I’ve seen the Pharaoh commonly portrayed as a dense and downright sinister man. It’s easy to fall into that trap, considering the narrative and all, but Dreamworks really put a ton of extra work into making Ramses feel like a real person. After all, it is true that Moses was once an Egyptian prince, it’s reasonable to believe they’d know each other, and maybe even be friends.

In TPOE, Ramses and Moses were raised under the same roof, tantamount to brothers. They got in trouble together, playing grab ass under the watchful eye of the current Pharaoh. As carefree as he could be, Ramses often felt pressured by his father, dreading being a ‘weak link’ that would break the chain of the Egyptian empire. When Moses, horrified by the revelation that Jews were being exterminated by the Egyptians, leaves Egypt to find himself, Ramses is left without a brother, feeling somewhat empty and left to step into the position of Pharaoh with only his own father influenced him further. Moses returns after many years, where he finds...Ramses hasn’t really changed. He’s thrilled to see Moses, he’s still pretty jovial and even entertains a lot of Moses’ ideas. It isn’t until Moses makes it clear that they have no choice but to be enemies that Ramses turns bitter. Ramses isn’t a bad person, he’s just misguided, really. He keeps the slaves his father taught him to, and as far as he’s concerned, is just carrying out family tradition and keeping things in the status quo.

Ramses refusal to free the slaves may seem downright stubborn, but he’s just under a ton of pressure from all directions, anyone would act irrationally. He repeats his father’s words; “I won’t be the weakest link!”. His greatest fear is to go down in history as the Pharaoh that caused the downfall of his dynasty. He’s really at war with himself, he just wants to keep things peaceful...as he knows how. He fears trying something new would be the end that he couldn’t remedy. The Prince of Egypt is my favorite animated musical ever, it’s songs chilling and emotions guiding everything. The Plagues exemplifies this, where Ramses and Moses sing that their enemies are those they once called brother, that they truly wish that God had chose another to serve foes to one another. Ramses is so damn stubborn it takes until the final plague, the deaths of every firstborn in Egypt to push him over the edge to free the slaves. He does so, and is furious, chasing Moses into the Red Sea at the last moment. He’s reasonably angry. He was trying his best to keep Egypt together, and his own brother comes along and causes him so much pain.

In many ways it’s justifiable that he sees Moses as a bad guy at this point. As he screams his name on the red sea, he screams it as the brother who betrayed him, destroyed his homeland where they both grew up, and left him alone in all of this pain. Ramses’ crime was holding the slaves as he did, but he really paid the price and then some, and all because of unfortunate circumstances over actual villainy. He was more stubborn than he was truly evil or even thoughtless. The entire conflict tore him up, before the film’s end left him in shreds.