#tower of god theories

[local-writer]

SPOILERS FOR TOWER OF GOD WEBTOON, SEASON 3! IT'S ABOUT RECENT CHAPTERS, DON'T READ IF YOU AREN'T CAUGHT UP! SPOILERS UNDER THE CUT!

So we all remember Arkraptor's daughter, right? And how she was taken from him by the families? Well, I have a theory.

What if they threw her into the garbage dump? Think about it, that's where they threw all of the rejects and the things that they didn't like, so what if Arkraptor's daughter is there too? Heck, she may even be with the group who recently joined the war in recent chapters! I really hope SIU didn't forget about her, I would love to see her appear in the near future and maybe even meet Wangnan and the others, so they can tell her all about her dad. :')

[turtleblogatlast]

[ cw: violence mention / death mention / ]

Will never stop thinking about how Leo, all alone in an endless void and being beaten again and again and again by the only other living thing around, still finds comfort in that space. The situation he was in was completely hopeless, and in any other circumstances he would not have escaped, at least not fast enough to save him from permanent (or even fatal) damage, be it physical or mental.

And yet, despite the bleakness of his situation, despite the agony and helplessness, all he needs is one glance at a crumbled photograph, one glance to remember his family, and that’s enough of a reason for him to smile.

Maybe that’s why his powers center around manipulating space - because no matter how much space is between them, no matter how dire his own situation may be, just the thought of his family, alive and okay, is enough to give Leo hope.

[incorrecttowerofgodquotes]

Korean Fastpass Spoiler Theory

Alright, the latest chapter reveals that the immortality contract in some way suppressed the emotions the FH’s feel.

Even by the Ameuz flashback, a lot of them seemed deadened. All of them except Yirang. We also know the Yeon flame reacts based on the user’s emotional state, such as getting a lot stronger when Ehwa was angry.

Yirang didn’t want to lose the emotions she felt, however I’m going to guess that like others, by now she’s lost the pure soul she had then. However, what if something happens in the future, separate from breaking the contract, that causes her emotions to come back.

Like, imagine her crying for the first time in like 10,000 years. Imagine the power she would show in that moment. Imagine her becoming the true pinnacle of a Family Head because she accepts the emotions she feels and moves forward with them.

That would truly be peak

[waitingforsecretsouls]

Zahard downplay is crazy. I'll grant Phantaminum (though regardless of how easily he could have defeated Zahard, fact of the matter is also that for some reason he didn't *shrug*). But Enryu (in its extent) and Urek?

Enryu fought an Admin (whom I, and that's just my personal opinion, believe to not be categorically more powerful than fully realized Irregulars outside of their supposed administrator monopoly over shinsu and its distribution, at least no to the point of categorically out fire - powering said Irregulars) and some fodder but people make the gulf between him an Zahard akin to heaven and earth (nevermind that Enryu is not an administrator, so the whole "but he killed one, and SIU said Zahard could never do it!" is somewhat of a false equivalent to draw for a hypothetical Enryu and Zahard battle. Anyone remember the whole "King of the Tower" Zahard deal, granted said position by virtue of the administrators? Of course he couldn't kill an administrator, he's the Irregular with the most known administrator contracts ("shackles") out of them all).

Mind you, I'm not even saying Zahard would win against Enryu or anything, but he IS 1) a fellow Irregular capable of Shinwonryu 2) a physical anomaly and durability machine, so I don't think it's weird to grant him better reaction times and endurance to say, a first volley of "Red Rain", than background rank and file Rankers. He also categorically doesn't underestimate people, even his far younger and inexperienced data only gradually tested Bam because he absolutely trashed him in their first encounter and wanted to have some fun, so it's unlikely Outside Zahard wouldn't realize the threat Enryu poses (SIU did say he had excellent survival instincts as befitting an adventurer) or not start all out. I'd even argue that to Outside Zahard a nearly hopeless fight to the death would be the equivalent of the fun his data self had with Bam, whether he himself has realized that or not (as reckognized by his data <3).

Urek punched through some scenery, fought an upjumped administrator parasite, needing Bam's help for the finish and had an exchange of hits with Luslec who chose to bounce. The fact of this extended battle screentime alone makes it narratively unlikely that Zahard is only going to be slightly more dangerous, because I see no way that wouldn't feel highly underwhelming to the audience. But even with those "feats" trying to argue that he's more powerful and how widespread that opinion seems already is kinda crazy. There's a reason 90% of Urek>Zahard is based on the old blogpost info about Arie Hon saying that Urek was "far better" than him when they fought at his floor (which. Big whoop, so was Zahard, 10:1 in that regard for him, since we're using blogpost info and such).

And again in reverse, I'm not saying Urek is not incredibly powerful in his own right or deserving of his high ranking, simply that he has yet to tangibly demonstrate something that would put, say, his physical strength (something I've surprisingly often seen as the edge people would give him over Zahard, when imo, giving him an advantage in speed seems far more likely, given his signature technique of "firing shinsu at the speed of light" and everything about Zahard's highlighted monstrous strength) above Zahard, who has the entire Princess of Zahard stuff on his side as a "feat" in that regard alone (creating Princesses out of not only Great Family members but even random Towerborn physically superior to all Ten Great Families average and the (physical) equal of Rankers even all the way back on the Floor of Tests with just a little of his power).

I'll also say that the whole concept of "yeah, number 1 and 2 are definitely stronger than number three (this checks out), but ACTUALLY number four was also stronger than number three all along!" (Uhh, what? In that case, don't give Urek a definitive ranking built into the earlierst lore, that so far checks out (Phantaminum>Enryu>Zahard), and make him a Traumerei or something) would just feel...Random. Especially since number three is the primary antagonist of the whole series.

Tldr; I see the gap between Zahard and Urek as likely to be wider than the one between Zahard and Enryu.

[udonnnnn]

Theory: Rachel won’t be satisfied with the stars

Rachel mentions in s2 ep240 that she wants to see the stars that “that person” wanted, heavily implied to be Arlene. Knowing she’s pretty obsessed with Arlene (if we take from Rachel’s line about wanting to prove herself as the child Arlene wanted in Bam’s place as part of why she’s so envious of him), if that’s why she’s so desperate to see the stars, I bet that she won’t be satisfied upon seeing them at all.

She’ll just be disappointed, because it was never really her wish; she just was so obsessed with Arlene that she chased the stars Arlene wanted.

[vv-ispy]

something something samsara cycles I don't think it's a coincidence that the overthrow of Decarabian involved Jean and Diluc's ancestor + Venti's lookalike friend -> Mondstadt archon quest the key players taking down Dvalin were Jean and Diluc + Venti

Is. Traveler Amos?

Or put another way, traveler is the one with the floaty friend -> bard has the floaty friend. Venti is friends with Dvalin the terror of the tower/Amos is friends? Lovers? Something? With Decarabian the tyrant in the tower. Venti -> Amos, Traveler -> Nameless bard, Paimon -> Venti?

[cheer-soli-art]

KBW '23 - Day 07: Heal/Anomaly (feat. Mandela Catalogue AU)

an intriguing case, with some claiming the answer is crystal-clear.

This artwork has a 1.2k fic (rated T for swears and one gunshot). Go check it out though - keeping the Work Skin on, of course.

[yamisamuel]

@thechurchofgord has amazing tower of god theory:

Rachel is the pyramid scheme

[halloweenreaper]

Instead of working on what I’m supposed to, I wrote a short one off theory/”What if?” scenario for Tower of God of Arlene being Phantaminum’s real identity. If your interested, give it a read and tell me what you think.

[meliohy]

I miss internet forums

[meliohy]

I just remembered the theory I first had in mind that I somehow managed to forget while typing the post

They probably don't want Bam or Wangnan to know that they wanted them to meet. Whatever their goal is by making Arlene's "child" and "the prince" meet, I doubt they want them to be aware of it. My guess is that they ever want to follow a prophecy or to go against it (I have a post somewhere about a theory on Wangnan needing to kill Bam and fug maybe making them become allies to prevent it)

I had forgotten about irregulars being hard to read for guides, but to be fair Hwaryun seems to read Bam's path well enough. So they were probably going with it because she said it'd work out

I'm still not sure if Jinsung knew though. If he didn't, then he'd be the only one left out among Viole's "caretakers". On another hand, I really don't feel like the way he treated Wangnan hints any hidden machinations from him. He really seemed to consider him a random nice kid who'd make a good friend for Viole

Do you ever go back and read the Trustworthy Room test and realize how ironic it is that Wangnan passed that test?

I mean, think about it.

The final scene with Gusgus implied that FUG was already planning on making sure that he passed, either by rigging the game in his favor, or giving Viole some kind of direction that would result in this. (Love mentions that they already know from Karaka's journey up the Tower that Slayer candidates are given certain special tasks to fulfill during tests, which sometimes includes failing everyone but one specific regular.) So, there very easily could've been an entirely different set of circumstances behind him passing, but he'd still pass.

But Love went and threw a wrench in those plans with his unsanctioned midnight test, all because he had a personal bone to pick with FUG. It could've wrecked their plans so easily.

But! Wangnan passed anyway, all due to his own efforts. He didn't need FUG's cheaty bs! (He's perfectly capable of cheating on his own, thank you very much!)

Almost makes you wonder what would've happened with the intended test.

[local-writer]

I HAVE THIS THEORY ABOUT V THAT I KEEP THINKING ABOUT

SPOILERS FOR SEASON 3, EPISODE 214 (#631) OF THE TOG WEBTOON, SCREENSHOTS ARE INCLUDED, PLEASE DON'T LOOK IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS

Y'all remember this scene? Where V decided to share this power with everyone in the tower? The very power that has brought misery to not only the family leaders, but to thousands of people in the tower?

I've been thinking; sure, he may have had good intentions at the time and he really was just a himbo (I say this affectionately), but I had another thought. What if V did this intentionally? What if he was entirely aware of the consequences his actions would have?

Recent episodes have really made me question V and his choices, and I can't help but wonder if his oblivious and carefree persona is just a facade.

I MEAN LOOK AT THIS FACE

THIS IS THE FACE OF EVILLL

A very handsome face. LMAO

Anyways, I'm really hyped for future episodes and I wish I could afford the fast pass on webtoon 😭 does anyone else have any theories about V too? If so then please do share 👀 V is living in my head rent free and I need to talk about him

[coffeeandkhun]

"The Seed of a King"

So the person who raised Ja Wangnan called him "the seed of a king". There is also an actual folktale about The Emperor's Seed, which I'm going to summarize here just briefly:

The Emperor was getting old and didn't have any children of his own. So he invited all the children around the country to his palace and told them, to their big surprise, that one of them was going to become his successor.

The Emperor then gave all of them a seed. They should plant it and take care of it, and to return in a year with what had grown.

There was one child who tended his planter very well, but there just weren't any signs of life to be seen. Other children had extraordinarily beautiful flowers and trees growing from their pots, but thist one child had nothing.

When a year had passed, everyone was again invited to the palace. The Emperor studied every plant carefully - also the empty pot of that one poor child, who was very embarrassed and anxious.

Finally, the Emperor said: "A year ago, I gave everyone a seed. But the seeds I gave you were all unviable. They wouldn't grow, and still, for some reason, I see thousands of flowers and plants."

In the end, the only honest child was chosen as his successor.

Call me silly, but after reading the story I though:

Maybe, just maybe, SIU had this story as an inspiration for the whole Jahad clones -thing...

Then would it mean that the real "prince" is the one who's least extraordinanary/king-like, or unexpected in some other way?

Now I want so badly that "the seed of a king" is a literal thing! The Workshop could definitely invent something as wacky as human seeds… Didn't flowers exist in the tower before humans or beasts, anyway?

Just imagine if there used to be a tiny flower pot with an even tinier Ja Wangnan growing from it. If only I could draw.

[waitingforsecretsouls]

Guys, idk about anyone else but I'm starting to suspect the reason why Zahard was angry at Arlene and his motivations as a character might be a bit more layered than simply having his proposal rejected...🤔 Almost like his choices might be based on his ideals and not simply love triangle drama and the greatest war in the history of the Tower, kickstarted by V and Arlene, might have tarnished his proudest accomplishment and goal.

[udonnnnn]

Predicting it now Rachel betrays Yura in the future

I feel like Yura’s admiring of Rachel is way too deja vu to how Bam admired Rachel back then and it scares me.