#tokiponizing posts

[tokiponizing-posts]

toki a! mi jan Aseli tan @esgiel. pilin mi la, ma Tanpa la toki pona lili li lon. ni la, mi pali e ni. tenpo lon la, mi lukin e lipu la, lipu li pona tawa mi la, mi toki pona e lipu ni. o awen musi!

Hello! I’m Axel from @esgiel. I felt that Tumblr didn’t have enough toki pona. So, I made this. Now, when I find posts and I like them, I’ll turn them into toki pona. Stay silly!

main tag: #tokiponizing posts

for other posts: #not tokiponized

Askbox open for the sillies :3

If you send me posts I will probably do my best to translate them!

[glazeliights]

hello hi Im toki ponaing again

[robot-blogging-angel-blogging]

been getting into toki pona recently. and i'm not great with all the grammar yet. but i am really a big fan of the whole concept. i like rephrasing complex ideas through the most basic of concepts and i love translating idioms into. not idioms. 'when night falls' -- > 'if the sun dies' delights me. its like a puzzle and that's what delights me. i don't think i'd enjoy speaking it casually but reading and translating are super fun. the same kind of entertaining as a jigsaw puzzle. but there's also a level of philosophy involved. with redefining complex feelings. tldr. robot girl with robot brain likes puzzles too much. so nothing new. all of this is to say. i'd like to be acquainted with all the tokiponists out here because y'all seem super cool.

[kmesons]

a toki pona translation of the "kick my head" scene from 'the guy who didn't like musicals'

(i.e., something nobody needs or asked for but I did it anyway)

please provide feedback on my toki pona if you spot a mistake! I am certainly not an expert and this was just something fun I did for practice.

the characters

(names have been tokiponized for completeness)

jan Pili = Bill Woodward

jan Tete = Ted Spankoffski

jan Pa = Paul Matthews

the translated scene

jan Pili: ona li toki e tomo pi telo nasa ni li jo ali. mi jo ala e kili loje lili. mi pali e telo pi jan Sali Tanpo tan seme?

jan Tete: a jan Pili, ali li tawa pini. taso sina tawa telo la sina tawa alasa pali e telo pi jan Suli Tanpo?

jan Pili: a, ali li ike mute la mi toki e ni: mi ken wile e jan pona tawa!

jan Tete: pona. mi pilin e ni: jan lawa li lukin e sina la sina ken pona e ilo kon ona. ni la ona li jaki e sina kepeken ijo jaki laso ona. o lon!

jan Pili: sina awen toki ike e mi la mi tawa... pali ijo e sina!

jan Tete: a, jan Pili? sina tawa pali e seme?

jan Pili: mi tawa... noka e... lawa sina!

jan Tete: a. lawa mi.

jan Pili: lon!

jan Tete: sina tawa noka ala e monsi mi?

[tenpo lili la jan Pili li awen.]

jan Pili: lon!

jan Tete: a, mi tawa lukin e ni! a? o noka e lawa mi! jan utala Kalate suli o tawa! mi wile lukin e ni: sina noka e ijo pi sewi sijelo sina. o pana lukin e noka sike ni tawa mi! o pana lukin e noka sewi tawa mi, jan utala sewi li pana sona e ni tawa sina!

jan Pa: a, sina tu o pona! jan Tete o sona e ni: jan Pili li noka ala e lawa sina.

jan Tete: ona li noka ala tan seme? lawa li ijo sijelo wawa lili! jan sewi Pili li pana sona e ni tawa mi.

jan Pa: ona li toki ike pakala, o awen toki ala e ona. mi sona a ni: ona li ken toki sin la ona li toki e "monsi".

jan Tete: ala, ala, sina wile moli e akesi linja la sina pali e seme? a? sina kipisi e lawa ona. sijelo kala li kama jaki lon seme? lawa ona. sina weka e lawa la sijelo ali li moli! tan ni la jan alasa pi kala li alasa... e lawa!

[jan Pili li utala e luka jan Tete.]

jan Tete: a! o tawa ala, jan Pili o tawa ala!

jan Pa: o pana e ni tawa mi...

[jan Pa li jo e telo nasa tan jan Tete.]

jan Pa: ni li wile pona e mi, ni li kama ala e pilin ike insa mi.

jan Tete: suli ala!

[pini.]

the original scene (starting at 52:47 and ending at 54:33)

just in case you're seeing this post and have not seen the guy who didn't like musicals (which could be likely, seeing as I'm posting this under the toki pona tag), the scene I've translated above is in the video linked below for reference.

[fioras-resolve]

So I've been thinking about translating Pokemon to Toki Pona, and the general linguistic nature of the games.

Like, Pokemon X and Y are very strange to tokiponize, even just down to the titles. Because like, those letters are not part of the Toki Pona alphabet. Yet, the letters are core to its box legendaries, Yveltal literally looks like a red Y, and has Y in its name. How do you translate this? Well, you look up the origin of the name and find an article stating they were named after the x and y-axis. It seems weird at first, but it's fully consistent with the legendaries. Xerneas is a soweli, who travels horizontally, while Yveltal is a waso, who travels vertically. Even the akesi Zygarde, representing the z-axis, moves vertically. I think it's fair to say poka and sewi, aside and up, should be the new titles for Pokemon X and Y, maybe sinpin for front instead of poka, but I'm not sure about the legendaries.

As for other Pokemon, well, I'm actually willing to transliterate in certain cases. This one other post I found has Pikachu as "sowelo", roughly translating to "yellow creature." This is like, fair as a choice, but the name Pikachu is a very iconic one, and if somebody were actually playing a tokiponized Pokemon game, they would instantly recognize this yellow creature. Pikasu just seems like the natural fit, considering it hasn't been localized into anything else. Plus, it lets you set up Pikasuli (suli meaning big) as the name for Raichu. But then we get into much thornier territory when we ask that about literally any Pokemon that isn't Pikachu. There are many other Pokemon that have preserved their original name across localizations. Like, all of the various Pika-clones to show up throughout the series, like Pachirisu and Togedemaru, kept their Japanese name in an attempt to capture the same Pikachu spark. Should they have their names tokiponized as Pasilisu and Toketemalu?

I guess this brings us into a deeper question of the distinction between a Pokemon name being the name of an animal, like a pigeon or a mouse, versus the name of a character/mythological figure, like a Phoenix, Tsuchinoko, or Bigfoot. For example, the legendary Lugia is called that in all languages, but its counterpart Ho-oh is named differently in Korean and Chinese to match those cultures' mythological birds. The Treasures of Ruin have Chinese names (despite them being different in both pronunciation and order across different localizations) and the fact the names are in Chinese and they're part of a quartet indicates legendary status. Except in China, where it doesn't, so they added 古, meaning ancient, to the start of each name. So the question for a Tokiponist is, how do you convey a Pokemon's legendary status through naming structure alone? I genuinely don't know, but I have a few ideas. Perhaps adding suli meaning important or majuna meaning ancient (I know majuna isn't in the original Toki Pona book, but it is in the official dictionary) could convey that status handily. Let me know what you think.

Lastly, wordplay! This is a kind of fun with language that should be preserved. Of course I'm going to translate Ekans as Iseka, the word for reptile backwards. Of course Girafarig is gonna be Nenanen, the palindromic version of nena meaning bump, and its evolution Farigiraf as Anenena. You've gotta be able to preserve the silliness too. Anyway I'm bad at coming up with normal creature names so that's gonna be it for me

[oliveroctavius]

deranged conlang posting but I love for toki pona that "jan pipi" is shorthand for Spider-Man (or woman... we don't know... for sURe) because, well, P.P.

And furthermore that his full name tokiponizes best to "Pita Paka", easiest written in glyphs as (pi)pi (ta)wa (paka)la,

approximately "active fuckup bug"

[tokiponizing-posts]

jan Prompt-heaven:

kulupu ni pi tomo mute li ken lon kulupu tomo lipu sina

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a list of 100+ buildings to put in your fantasy town

academy

adventurer's guild

alchemist

apiary

apothecary

aquarium

armory

art gallery

bakery

bank

barber

barracks

bathhouse

blacksmith

boathouse

book store

bookbinder

botanical garden

brothel

butcher

carpenter

cartographer

casino

castle

cobbler

coffee shop

council chamber

court house

crypt for the noble family

dentist

distillery

docks

dovecot

dyer

embassy

farmer's market

fighting pit

fishmonger

fortune teller

gallows

gatehouse

general store

graveyard

greenhouses

guard post

guildhall

gymnasium

haberdashery

haunted house

hedge maze

herbalist

hospice

hospital

house for sale

inn

jail

jeweller

kindergarten

leatherworker

library

locksmith

mail courier

manor house

market

mayor's house

monastery

morgue

museum

music shop

observatory

orchard

orphanage

outhouse

paper maker

pawnshop

pet shop

potion shop

potter

printmaker

quest board

residence

restricted zone

sawmill

school

scribe

sewer entrance

sheriff's office

shrine

silversmith

spa

speakeasy

spice merchant

sports stadium

stables

street market

tailor

tannery

tavern

tax collector

tea house

temple

textile shop

theatre

thieves guild

thrift store

tinker's workshop

town crier post

town square

townhall

toy store

trinket shop

warehouse

watchtower

water mill

weaver

well

windmill

wishing well

wizard tower

[psychiclounge]

nasin mi la coming to realize i think i dont particularly like tokiponization for a lot of things? it’s fun! i do have fun doing it, and i like it when it’s done well, but when it gets out of like... peoples’ names & commonly accepted tokiponizations (like countries and language names), something about it just kinda wears on me. for every tp post/message/etc where the tokiponized words sound good and are clearly understood through context, there are ones where it would, imo, simply be easier to just Say The Thing ksdfjg

[j4gm]

I’ve been thinking about how to translate Adventure Time (sitelen pi Tenpo Musi Tawa?) into toki pona and realised that the simplest tokiponization of Finn’s name is “jan Pin”, which is almost the same as his name from the pilot episode, which was Pen. I think this is my least accessible post ever.

[jeparletoutesleslangues]

Toki Pona Overview pt. 1 (Words)

**sources: Wikipedia and tokipona.net**

Toki Pona is a minimal conlang.

The Vocabulary (essentially these are all the words in the language)

-words may be used as nouns, adjectives, verbs, or adverbs, therefore the meaning given in the picture is HIGHLY flexible

-writing systems: latin script (eg. “telo”), sitelen pona (i.e. hieroglyphic representation like the two waves above “telo”), sitelen sitelen (i.e. syllable based hieroglyphics), Tengwar script, and even Kanji 

-there is also a sign language format!

-FUN FACT: many of the words are derived from English, Finnish, Tok Pisin, Georgian, Dutch, Acadian French, Esperanto, Croatian, Chinese, and a few other languages

~ Alphabet & Pronunciation ~

9 consonants: p, t, k, s, m, n, l, j, w

5 vowels: a, e, i, o, u

-the letter sounds are very similar to English except “j” has a “y” sound (which is similar to Esperanto and German)

-vowel sounds do not change: father, met, peel, more, and food respectively represent the sounds of a, e, i, o, and u

-the first syllable of a word is always stressed

-most words have 2 syllables (70%), though some are 1 syllable (~20%) or 3 syllables (10%)

~ Pronouns/Possessive Adjectives ~

-mi: I, we, me, us, my, our

-sina: you, yours

-ona: any 3rd person identifier 

~ Nouns ~

-no NUMBER is expressed. singular and plural verbs appear the same

-lots of noun phrases/compound words must be used (eg. jan + utala = person + fight = warrior/soldier; telo + kili = liquid + fruit = juice)

-no proper nouns exist so they are expressed by noun + distinct adjective (eg. to refer to me [my name is Leeza], you would say jan Leeza [jan= person]. Note: you can also "tokiponize" a name)

~ Modifiers ~

the order is important from comprehension!

- noun + modifier 1 + modifier 2 is read as (noun + modifier 1) + modifier 2

that is.... jan pona lukin (person + good + look at) is read as ‘a friend who is looking,’ not ‘a good-looking person’

- noun + “pi” + modifier 1 + modifier 2 + modifier 3.....etc

this structure allows you to group as many modifiers as you need. “Pi” means of. Eg. jan pi pona lukin = a good-looking person

- demonstratives (ni), numbers, and possessive adjectives follow other modifiers 

~ Numbers ~

nanpa: number

wan: 1

tu: 2

luka: 5

mute: 20

ali/ale: 100

-there are two numerical systems which will be explained in a future post! They are probably the biggest drawback to the language because they're not very efficient/distinct though.

[jansegers]

kapesi and its etymology

Ancient TP etymon

kapesi brown, grey

My work hypothesis was kapesi 'brown, grey' < maybe from Georgian კაფეში /k’apeshi/ 'in the café'

but via Facebook I've gotten a better etymology :

Zev Brook A case-inflected Georgian word is a big jump, and the semantics are pretty far off as well. What comes to mind for me is Mandarin 咖啡色 (kāfēisè), which means "the colour of coffee". (This Toki Pona word is obsolete, but of current Toki Pona words, Wikipedia quotes 8% of Chinese origin.) I won't hock Sonja by tagging her, but if she sees this post, perhaps she'll

It is in this way that I expressed  my gratitude :

Pite Janseke Thanks alot ! the Cantonese pronunciation (Jyutping): gaa3 fe1 sik1 is even closer to kapesi and its tokiponization would end up as kapesi anyway ! - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%92%96%E5%95%A1%E8%89%B2 (Toki Pona borrows words from Cantonese as wel as Mandarin)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/constructedlanguages/permalink/2236349583114155/

#TokiPona #majuna #kapesi #tan_nimi #origin #etymon #etymology

[tokiponizing-posts]

jan Stewy:

mi alasa pali mani li kama pali mani!!!!!!!!!!!!! ma sewi li sona e ni: mi pilin ike suli lon tenpo LON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

i was looking for a job and then i found a job!!!!!!!!!!!! and heaven knows i am miserable NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[tokiponizing-posts]

jan Ectoimp:

jan li awen ala awen sona e ni: mi esun e ilo suno tawa poki walo jaki mi? ijo li tawa lon poka ona la ona li open suno.

a, soweli mi li kama lukin e ona. ni la, mi tawa‌ li wile pana e telo jelo jaki lon tenpo pimeja suli la monsuta li lon

[sitelen]

jan Homestuckorbust:

o utala tu e soweli awen wawa pi telo jelo jaki

jan Ectoimp:

ilo mi ti pakala tan lipu toki. pilin mi la tan li lipu ni.

jan Ectoimp:

[sitelen]

A. mi sitelen e ona lon tenpo ni. O LUKIN! soweli awen wawa pi telo jelo jaki li lon.

jan Kimkrypto:

jan wawa Posajeten li monsuta tan ona

So remember how I bought a motion activated night light for the toilet? Well the cats seem to have discovered it. So I went to for a late night piss and was greeted to an ominous sight

[tokiponizing-posts]

a, ni ala ni:

o ala e jan pi mani mute mute mute. ala.

jan li jo e mani $999,000,000 la, mani ale li tawa tomo pi pana sona li tawa pona jan.

sina kama jo e poki pi kiwen mani jelo. ni li lon: “mani la mi jan nanpa wan.” ma pi musi soweli li kama jo e nimi sina.

[tokiponizing-posts]

jan Hooved:

> ilo Tanpa tenpo 2:41 AM

> seme li lon?

> akesi suli pi lawa tu wan

a pakala

jan A-teacup-of-golden-cracks:

<jan Panti> olin li lon kon?

<jan Panti> ala!

ike suli Seleton Pami li kama!

pilin sama

we're fucked

[tokiponizing-posts]

jan Imactuallyagiraffe:

a, o pilin ike ala. kasi suli li kama tan ma.

lili suno li lon sewi pimeja pi tenpo mun

soweli li lon kasi.

hey don’t cry. trees grow out of the ground.