#to feel that way at least partially/sometimes; But lol discouragingly that seems to be a ''fact'' / neutral universal stance via the writing
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unproduciblesmackdown · 3 years ago
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me a full season after 5x05 - 5x07
#winston billions#riawin#as ever: Anything Could Happen but it's had a whole season to & yeah comparing winston to Similar Characters' writing: outlook not so good#just picking up that rock and having it ready....#and to take it back to the mysterious interview quotes about it lol like#not only is it One Thing when it's like ''how would you describe this dynamic'' and an actor goes ''intense; horrible; passionate'' and then#here comes a showrunner like ''i would describe this dynamic as certainly a dynamic''...and for it to be offered as possibly a Disclaimer of#that more vivacious/generous description of it. love to get those hopes down babey#but really more so than that the ''winston has a big crush on rian; there's nothing anyone can do about that'' remark was more Suspicious#like clearly Humorous but feel free to elaborate on what exactly the joke is...#cue ''oh; so it was a joke'' like if the joke Is / Was / Will Be ''haha anyone would love to stop him from having a big crush on anyone b/c#anyone would also go 'oh god ugh' if that were the case XD'' like thanks so much lmfao i resent all this#Before suspecting [riawin] would be introduced; and of course before it Was; the discussion was always like#well having A Crush would humanize winston b/c you'd Have to pay attention to his feelings & sympathize with them; right#but we can't trust that the writers wouldn't write Winston Having A Crush as anything but a joke at his expense / a curse for the crushee so#if they're gonna regard him as a Romantic Nonentity then i just hope they Don't write him having an unrequited crush ppl think is so cringe#and then 5x05 thru 5x07 happened like wow we're focusing on his feelings / this seems somewhat in earnest after all Who Could've Guessed#only now it's like oh uhh was it still supposed to have been taken as a joke.....the joke being save for offscreen exes he can't date anyone#and even now it's less that oh rian can't like him at all; b/c evidently she does; or even that rian dislikes him at all; b/c she Also seems#to feel that way at least partially/sometimes; But lol discouragingly that seems to be a ''fact'' / neutral universal stance via the writing#so doesn't mean too much if she Must pay the [disdain for winston] toll....but that even to whatever degree she may like him; she's also a#character more prominent / treated more seriously than him so; especially b/c of the latter; this may be enough Incompatibility....#rian's having a bad time dealing w/taylor & maybe needs sympathy & advice about that? &/or to just hang out outside work? well.#we have a quant duo but what's that actually mean? oh; what's that you said brian; certainly a dynamic? well that answers that lmao#she sure has more of a Range with him like. sure yeah disdain/annoyance/dismissal/disinterest/dislike/etc all those greatest hits#but also razzing him but seemingly more Lightheartedly than he might've gotten from others; but also amicability....#and for some reason i cannot fathom: being written to Not shut his interest down emphatically & immediately if she would never consider it..#unless for some reason she Would consider it. in which case i also cannot fathom why exactly the writing is like this lmao so you know#Most Plausible this Is a joke at winston's expense after all & he can only date offscreen randos who ultimately dislike him also or w/e#at least from billions' writing's perspective. i legally own the character
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rorykillmore · 6 years ago
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& then how does each character act when theyre like attracted to someone or crushing on someone, aka which one is the biggest gay disaster lol
you think there could be just ONE?
lucille i think would have a hard time developing feelings for anyone unless there was REALLY a lot of trust involved, and even then she might just... shut down about it for awhile idk. she just wouldn’t know how to handle approaching a relationship in a... safe, comfortable way, so once she REALIZED she had feelings for anyone it would take her awhile to work through them and trust them. so not a lot of... explicit or sappy stuff, if anything she might be kind of avoidant about it for awhile. that’s just where she is in her development rn, there’s still a lot she’s not good at handling.
glory... idk it depends on who the other person (dragon) is, but she’s so no nonsense that i think she would kind of inherently dislike admitting she has Softer feelings for someone. it’d be easier if it was someone like deathbringer, who she can kind of clash and banter with and sort of build a flirtation on that without having to admit too much or express stuff that’s more vulnerable. if she had feelings for someone she didn’t quite have that dynamic with, she’d be... idk. potentially a bit more clumsy with it. probably still deflect a lot with sarcasm but it’d be a bit more awkward because she’d have to attempt to not point it at them DIRECTLY,
kara is a bit, well, EMBARRASSINGLY obvious about it. she tends to get nervous when she’s crushing on someone -- she stumbles a lot more and gets kind of overly giggly and easily flustered. it’s just... not subtle when kara is developing feelings for someone.  that doesn’t necessarily mean she’d act on them right away (see james, because that situation was complicated, or rey because even though they both Knew how each other felt, there were a lot of factors that made acting on that immediately not such a great idea) but she usually doesn’t bother being too secretive because it’s obvious anyway. if she does want to pursue someone, sometimes she’ll do nice, cutesy things like getting them flowers or w/e
siobhan... smh. you would expect siobhan to be kind of a prickly asshole who’s constantly in denial, but actually when it comes to romance, she’s not savvy enough for that. when it comes to those kinds of feelings she tends to be so ???!!! because what?? genuine human connection??? and being at that kind of loss makes her sort of impulsive and clumsy; like she’ll act on her feelings because it seems like a good idea at the time and then she’ll REEL BACK and immediately decide it was a mistake and kind of go in unproductive circles so because part of her wants that connection, but the other part of her doesn’t want to trust anyone with that kind of vulnerability. winn was a pretty good example of all this stuff in action.
caitlin can be a liiittle bit oblivious, honestly. someone expressing romantic interest in her is probably something she wouldn’t notice unless it was VERY direct, and she also doesn’t examine her own feelings enough to realize that kind of thing until a bit late in the game, in most circumstances. but assuming she did that eventually or the other person was just, earnest and open about how they felt from the get-go, she’d be... well, idk. probably a little withdrawn? maybe even discouragingly closed off; definitely at least hesitant. romance, as it turns out, has never worked well for her, and she’s definitely not eager to leap back into it. but honestly it’s not really a priority for her anyway.
sara is, well, sara. she’s smooth as fuck. and also kind of a shameless flirt who doesn’t see much reason not to indicate that she’s attracted to someone when she is, although she’s also... conscious of the other person’s feelings and good at not coming on too Strongly. the hang-ups start to occur when she’s not just idly attracted or “crushing” but starts to become aware of more serious feelings, because THEN she doesn’t know what to do and kind of tends to mishandle things. sometimes that manifests in being sort of evasive the way she was with snart, and sometimes it manifests in just being a complete, uncharacteristically clumsy disaster like she was with ava. depends on her willingness to confront/pursue things, i guess. she still manages to be a little bit of a flirt even then though
bramblestar.... bears the curse of being a male character written by the erin hunters, and thus any time he’s attracted to a Woman™ (meaning female cat, but like trust me, that gets across the mood better) he is KIND of an oblivious idiot about it. he can’t read those kinds of hints really well and gets really ??? when he accidentally, inevitably makes a situation worse by saying something stupid. he likes things to be... obvious and upfront, and when they’re not he just gets kind of confused. thank god squirrelflight tolerates him.
heather... well, just look at her entire history on denny! she actually used to have a bad habit of when she was actually attracted to someone, picking on them a little more and giving them the Wrong kinds of negative attention, but on denny she’s grown out of that and it’s more just... idk. she knows the traditional cues and expectations and patterns to follow when it comes to guys, so she can be very forward and direct with them (although ratchet has managed to disprove a lot of her expectations), but she’s... less experienced in admitting her attraction to girls. and on top of that, her feelings for veronica are PRETTY deep by now, so that’s even less she knows how to handle. so up until now she’s kind of tackled a lot of it by just... i’m gonna be completely honest, interpreting a lot of what happens between them as just being normal for very close friendships. gals being fucking pals.
madeline is... fairly traditional about this kind of thing. if a little impulsive. yeah, i think that’s fair to say. she’s pretty good at determining what she wants and then acting on it, i wouldn’t even be surprised if she was the one who initiated things in both of her previous serious relationships, because she doesn’t see the point of wasting time or dancing around things or anything. BUT again, she is impulsive, driven by her feelings first, and sometimes that can lead her into making stupid decisions, like the brief affair she had back home.
badgerstripe has never really had particular, obvious crushes or feelings she’s been aware of before, soooo she’d be kind of... cautious about navigating them at first? she’s the type who’d want to feel out a situation like this very thoroughly before even considering acting on it, which would probably involve a lot of her second-guessing the other person’s feelings and her own. she’d have to make sure her doubts don’t do that kind of self-sabotaging thing they do, but if she got past that i think she’d be... tentatively optimistic? curious? willing to pursue something and probably hitting a few of those fun little “first love” roadbumps as she did
trish is used to leading a pretty... publicized dating life, so she kind of has a tendency to be careful and deliberate and linear about how she treats her feelings for someone and all the stuff she does afterwards. like, if she lets it be anything less than Pretty in the public eye then the tabloids will usually go nuts, so there’s a lot of... casual dating and going through the motions and trish kind of preparing herself for the inevitable blow-up it’s going to end with. some of her stuff with laurel has been treading new ground for her for obvious reasons, and also because it isn’t public in the same way, and she doesn’t necessarily expect it to end disastrously because... it isn’t that serious! right! at least she’s partially right because they are gonna end things on good terms, which will be a nice change for once, but.
anya isn’t really good at examining and becoming consciously aware of these kinds of feelings. it’s also important to note that she was robbed of that like... period of teenage development where people kind of test the waters with this sort of thing, so she retains a lot of that teenage... defensiveness or stubbornness about it. she doesn’t like admitting her feelings because it’s a bit embarrassing to her, so she’ll dance around that kind of thing, but often give herself away by paying a little too much attention to the other person, even if it means frequent bickering or nagging or acting like she doesn’t like them (see: dmitry).
and dolores is in the tricky position of being someone who... doesn’t usually lie to other people or to herself if she feels strongly about them. BUT romance is really complicated for her right now, so depending on the circumstances she’d probably hold herself back a little until she figured out how to be a little less... way and conflicted about it. but apart from that, she’s usually pretty reasonable about it. she’s a bit careful about gauging how the other person is feeling and how genuine that is buuut she herself is usually pretty warm and sincere with people she has a lot of affection for, sometimes even playfully flirtatious like she used to be with teddy. in short, she might not do anything decisive about her feelings until she’s sure it’s what she and the other person want,but she’s also not especially secretive or oblivious.
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