#timeline: 2017

[fookinhellcurlyy]

Larry in Jamaica Masterpost Pt. 2

This whole 1st quarter of 2017 was messy af and here's where the debunk thread from an anti I previously mentioned comes into play.

As I said in Part 1, "Since I don't have a full reference of what had transpired during that period, I decided to take on the responsibility of collating information across the internet, including this account's own debunks for transparency."

I will piece things together from the beginning of the year to have a clearer view of the timeline.

[PS: Don't go RT-ing / engaging with the debunk thread of the anti. The important thing is we're taking their claims into consideration so as not to 'intentionally miss' any pertinent details for this timeline.]

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March 2017

January to early May 2017 HL Timeline Summary by @wesharethatreallyy | x

NOTE: I didn't take a screenshot of the whole thing as I only mainly wanted to highlight the 1st quarter + a little bit after. There are some stuff listed in the screenshot that might have been debunked already—fyi. I only took the ones I needed for my consolidated timeline (other half of this post). Lastly, the dates might be a bit different to my other screenshots below due to timezone differences.

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Other events based on my own research + info from Larry accounts

The rose ring timeline by @skepticalarrie | x L followed Dover Street Market on 18 Feb - where he presumably bought the rose ring (from The Great Frog). 'Louis was also seen very close to a The Great Frog store in Soho around that same time.'

Note: I couldn't find other links about the fan photo with L in Soho to doublecheck the date.

Always You posts on 26/27 Feb. Do check out the Full timeline for 'Always You' for the bigger context.

The Sun reported on 27 Feb that Elounor was back and the two were on a holiday in Jamaica l | x

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Timeline references used in the debunk thread.

NOTE: I crossed checked the references listed and added the links below.

Harry in London on 13 Feb | x

News on L being spotted at the airport by fans on 25 Feb (date of the photo could've been taken a day or two prior) | x x x

Note: The other two screenshots came from the source's tagged photos. They already deleted the original post. Take these fan accounts with huge grains of salt.

Daisy (sort of) confirmed on IG Live that L is bound for Jamaica on 24 Feb

H with a fan in London of 24 Feb | x

L arrested at LAX on 4 Mar

H spotted leaving a studio in London on 4 Mar | x x

Note: The rose ring appeared for the first that day.

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Consolidated Timeline

Pre-Jamaica March 2017, mixed with the debunk thread's resources (color coded based on the references above)

⊹ 1.19 L and D broke up ⊹ 2.1 H's 23rd Birthday Party ⊹ 2.12 L and E papped in LA ⊹ 2.13 H in London ⊹ 2.18 L followed Dover Street Market on IG ⊹ 2.19 L and E 'rekindled' / official again | x ⊹ 2.23/24 L with fans at the airport (allegedly with E) ⊹ 2.24 Daisy confirming L was bound for Jamaica ⊹ 2.24 H with a fan in London ⊹ 2.27 L posts Always You ⊹ 2.27 The Sun reported E and L were official again + together in Jamaica ⊹ 3.4 L punched a pap at LAX ⊹ 3.4 H spotted leaving a studio in London + Rose ring appearance

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Other Dates

H and L liked these photos in Feb 2018. | x

Receipt 2017 with Mitch (actual date unknown) | x x

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Debunk Claims

Important: These were all from the debunk thread. OP's original handle can no longer be searched on IG. I'm not sure who contacted them back then as well. With a grain of salt, as always.

ON LARRIES SAYING THE MAR 2017 PHOTOS ALIGNED WITH H'S STAY IN JAMAICA (as stated in the circulating Jamaica Photo Timeline); AND THAT THE PHOTO WAS RELEASED IN OCT 2017.

TL;DR: Apparently, the OP claimed that the photo was taken on 1 Mar and posted on 5 Mar, as opposed to what larries knew (Oct 2017).

RESPONSES:

1.) Extra take about the anti's claim ("this girl confessed to seeing Louis and el making out"):

If we're looking into the actual words used in the convo with OP, the question was to confirm a couple of things. 1.) Did she actually see L and E? 2.) Making out? 3.) Walking? ETCETERA?

And looking into OP's answer, it was quite vague. She basically just said that she DID. But what was she confirming though? Was it that she did see them together? While they were walking around? Did she actually saw them make out? Or was it just assumed? (I'm not saying they weren't; they probably did tbh, knowing people would see and they needed them to - for that stunt).

2.) @twopoppies' post on Aug 2021 clearly stating that these were just rumors (THEORY) and that it was openly discussed that H was probably not there. | x

3.) And based on the timeline I've consolidated, it is possible that H was not there during L and E's getaway stunt in Jamaica. Could even be damage control thing considering how media outlets like Yahoo UK could easily piece things together (if an info of H&L being together in Jamaica ever leaked).

Yahoo UK's tweet (funny tweet bait tbh lol) on 19 Mar. | x

Actual Headline of the article posted on 19 Mar. | x

Note: L sighting in Jamaica earlier was stated in the article—E/'gf' not mentioned.

EXTRA:

There was this claim by larries I found that was also mentioned in the debunk thread: "In May 2017, Louis has a session with the same producer who works at Geejam Studios, where Harry recorded in Jamaica."

I don't have the energy to look into this anymore lol I don't think it's super relevant to my current timeline anyway. Please feel free to add it in if you know anything about it.

End of Timeline (as of 1/21)

PART I: Jan 2014 / Sep 2016

[ask2ps]

i really wanna hear more about the 2ps possessing their 1ps?? do they swap bodies or does their original body just go limp?

a) it's not quite a "body swap." the phrase i've used in past writings for it is "overwriting." i think "suppression" would also be appropriate. the 1ps are, if all goes to plan, "put to sleep". they essentially become a repressed memory. oliver set it up like this because he didn't want the 1p nations trying to constantly win back their body. even so, some nations put up a real fight as they're overwritten (and maybe even a little after if they're strong/stubborn enough... ahem ahem america) italy is not one of them though, partially because 2p italy got him in his sleep.

b) yeah they just go limp lol . they're empty husks, now. free meat. england would try a bite if it canada would let him

[michimonieart]

Gizmoduck Timeline! This should be accurate (as of 9/2024).

(Note: The last one says Darkwing Duck comics. He's also in the new Justice Duck comic series, but since it's the same one, I didn't add that version of him in.)

[ianthedebonair]

like you never existed

[gwinverarrouz]

A timeline of Bisig!! Since I've decided her birthday was in July, I felt it was time for a little retrospective :>

Thought it'd be fun to see how the way I've drawn her has evolved over the years!

[foxymc]

Why again did DT17 not get at least six seasons and a movie?

[salesart]

every Solas I've drawn since 2015

I thought to do a year-end review of my art, but ended up compiling every Solas I've posted. Some of these are quicker sketches, and some took many hours. (and this doesn't include the countless pieces I've discarded instead of posting!)

Solas inspired me to start digitally drawing. Before that, I had only a basic knowledge of illustration, and didn't know what I was doing when I first picked up a tablet. But my love for this character spurred me on.

My art journey has been more like climbing a jungle gym than a ladder. I only draw when I feel like it and don't practice diligently to see steady progress. Though I'm often disappointed in where my skills lack, it's nice to take a step back and see how far I've come!

[gosiksmallspace]

The Merciless Timeline

@inashoe and I have been talking lately and it got me thinking about The Merciless timeline.

First, we have to remember that the movie has flashbacks to pre-prison (probably 2013-2014) and the main timeline past the prison, which happens in 2016-2017 (I'm leaning more towards 2017).

I assume Hyunsoo was born in 1990. He is a rookie cop, even if he spent some time working for Golden Cranes. I would say he was around 23-24 before being sent to prison. He would be around 27 when he's out.

Jaeho could have been born around 1970, because between Hyunsoo and him is 20 years, more or less. I'm basing it on what he said to Hyunsoo:

"Even the boss I dedicated 20 years to is trying to backstab me with a smile on his face." "I got started here at your age. Do you know how many have betrayed me in those years?"

His parents died when he was 12 (so around 1982?) and he ended up in an orphanage. When he was a teenager, he began selling drugs. According to the priest in prison:

"Han started by dealing meth in his teens".

Then around 1997, he began working for Ko Byungchul. Once again:

"Even the boss I dedicated 20 years to is trying to backstab me with a smile on his face."

That would make him 27 then, so kind of old, but it also makes sense that first Jaeho would have to go to the military and then work with Byunggap on smaller illegal things to prove himself). He moved to Busan with Ko in 2008, at age 38. He could be around 43 when he was sent to prison and then 47 when he was released.

Now, in a police meeting, before Chun send Hyunsoo to prison, it is said that Ko Byungchul aka Chairman Ko is 52, so he was born in 1962, making him 8 years older than Jaeho. He used to provide strippers for a Russian bar in Seoul before he partnered up with Vladivostok's Gegard mob. In 2008 he relocated to Busan and founded Oceane/Oceans Trading, an aquatic importer.

Ko Byunggap is likely to be Jaeho's age (or really, really close) because he calls Jaeho '친구' (chingu). He's also Chairman Ko's nephew, which is interesting because according to my math, Ko Byungchul was 8 when Ko Byunggap was born. Byunggap mentions that it was his uncle who gave him up for an orphanage, which means that Byungchul had to be an adult then. So my lose theory is that Byunggap could be around 15 then when his parents died (that would make Byungchul 23). Byungchul could have given Byunggap up so he wouldn't get in his way.

That means that Byunggap's father was Byungchul's older brother and Ko brothers could have 10-year age difference because Byunggap's dad should have been at least 18 when he had him (I know he could be younger but let's go with the legal age).

What's interesting, although Byungchul calls Byunggap nephew, they both have 'Byung' in their names and that makes me wonder because in Korea children from the same generation and the same family can have a syllable in common. Maybe they are cousins? Because I don't remember Byunggap naming Byunggap's father as his brother. But this is just a small speculation because I don't know if '조카' literally means 'brother's son' or simply 'blood relative'. I will stick to Bynggap's dad being Byungchul's older brother.

The only person whose age we actually know for sure is Hyunsoo's mom, Jung Kyunghee. Because unfortunately it was inscribed on the tree dedicated to her after she died. She was born on 18th August 1962 (so same as Byungchul according to my math). If she gave birth to Hyunsoo in 1990 that means she was 28 then. And she died on 7th May 2014 at the age of 52.

So, summarising my estimated timeline: 1962 - Ko Byungchil and Jung Kyunghee are born. 1970 - Han Jaeho and Ko Byunggap are born. 1982 - Jaeho's parents die. 1982-1987 - Byunggap gets to orphanage. 1990 - Hyunsoo is born. 1997 - Jaeho and Byunggap began working for Ko Byungchul. 2008 - Ko Byungchul moves his business to Busan and takes Byunggap and Jaeho with him. 2013 - Jaeho is sent to prison, Hyunsoo works for the Golden Cranes gang. 2013-2014 - Hyunsoo is sent to prison. 2014 - Hyunsoo's mom is killed. 2017 - Jaeho and Hyunsoo are released and the movie begins.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

If you have different informations or other theories I would love to listen!

[ninjadoodleduck]

[flagellant]

Would love to hear more about your rabid animal encounter!

It was in 2017 at the time and I was working out in the national forests of California. I came into work one day at my ranger's station and there was way more chaos than I expected--turns out that someone had reported a suspected rabid skunk overnight after it bit a dog in a nearby town and it'd been brought in for testing (which includes euthanasia).

I was super curious and had some free time before I needed to actually go out to do what I was assigned so I decided to watch some of the tests being done. I'd seen the vets take blood samples and such of wild animals in the station before--you use basically what amounts to a syringe at the end of a spear etc etc. But before it started getting messed with by us it still acted wrong.

First off: It was jittery and trembling. Wobbly is too cutesy a word--it was just slightly too intense to be wobbly. The wobbles were more twitchy and jerking, like it was constantly having to catch its balance, or it was constantly trying to react to every single minutiae of stimuli. It was also completely silent and utterly unafraid of any of us. This is one of the big markers of rabies: It fucks with an animal's brain to the extent that its fear receptors essentially rot away, because the virus wants the animal to come into contact with as many other animals as possible, and it can't do that if it's skittish. A nonrabid skunk SHOULD be huddled up in the farthest reach of the carrier curled up and scared out of its goddamned mind for being alien-kidnapped. This one just kinda ambled or stood wherever.

So anyway, we start taking blood samples, and by we I mean my coworkers because I am super unqualified for any medical treatment whatsoever of any animal.

The second the needle stuck into the skunk it stopped being a skunk and started being something else. It began writhing and jerking inside the carrier like it was trying to rip its own muscles and limbs apart to get away or get out, and the whole time it was shrieking and squealing so hard and constant that even outside the station it was loud. I've heard animals dying from predators before, I've heard skunks dying from predators before, they didn't scream like this one did. It screamed like it didn't know how to use its vocal chords or mouth, all it knew was pure unthinking noise.

Again, I'm sorry, but I really don't know how to describe the experience very well. The problem is that rabies doesn't make animals act like how they're supposed to. A nonrabid dog going absolutely apeshit is still going to recognizably act like a dog, just an absolutely apeshit one. A rabid dog going absolutely apeshit does NOT act the same. It acts with complete disregard and unawareness of both its surroundings and its own body. It isn't a living creature anymore, it's a breeding ground of rabies that has completely taken control over the dog and is now puppeting it around with the single purpose of spreading rabies everywhere it can. There's no fear, there's no thought, and I barely agree with calling what rabid animals experience as "aggression" because aggression in animals is a thing which fundamentally acts through motivation of stimuli and reaction. Aggression happens because the animal cares about what happens to the animal. Rabid aggression has absolutely no shits given about what happens to its host. It's awful.

[oddballsducks]

So basically I have 3 Duckverse timelines running through my brain simultaneously (Scrooge and his siblings keep their original birth years, it’s other family members and Donald’s generation that shifts from then on):

Timeline 1: Donald & Della are born around 1920 (ex: Don Rosa)

Timeline 2: Donald & Della are born around 1957 (ex: DuckTales 1987)

Timeline 3: Donald & Della are born around 1983 (ex: DuckTales 2017)

And then I mentally (because I almost never actually draw) make different designs for the characters based on the different time periods’ fashions because I’m normal

[blaithnne]

A while ago, @ai-higurashi suggested that Duckworth’s demon form was not a result of him being a ghost, but just something he could do anyways. I’ve been obsessed with that ever since and have FINALLY been able to visualise it — meet 60s era human Duckworth!

I based his demon form off a canine, instead of a sheep like in canon. Also his first name is based off a running gag from an old since deleted fic of mine lol. ALSO I still can’t decide on Beakleys colours, bear with me here.

Meet the Cast!

╰┈➤ Canon ☄. *. ⋆

→ Scrooge McDuff → Matilda McDuff → Hortense McDuff → Qalhata Duiker → Goldie O'Gilt → Bentina Beakley → LÙ Huifen (pre-caseflies) → LÙ Huifen (post-casefiles) → Ludwig Von Druska → Bradford Butcher

╰┈➤ OCs ☄. *. ⋆

→ Lucrais NicRiada

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[velvet4510]

Anybody else firmly headcanon Logan as a separate timeline from the happy ending of X-Men: Days of Future Past in order to sleep at night?

[kathren-is-here]

Been thinking about Ducktales 2017 again and needed a quick Brad doodle done during my break

anyways so I made my own hc timeline thing using some bits of the show as guides under the cut!!

• Modern Bradford - working for Scrooge with his “brothers”, the rest of the events in the show continue

• 2010 distances Scrooge more

• 2000 and up, still working for McDuck but also expands FOWL, works on distancing Scrooge from his family

• 1990 CFO for McDuck and apart of the Board of Directors with his “brothers”

• 1980 looking more like modern Bradford now, has attended Scrooges Christmas party with his “brothers”, almost gets caught during a FOWL mission but doesn’t, leaves shush for McDuck enterprise to work closer to Scrooge

• 1970 A trusted shush worker and worked behind their backs to make fake brothers (?)

• 1960 Bradford just started working for shush

• 1950 Bradford graduated school and got recommended to shush from his grandma

• 1940 Bradford was in his studies

• 1920 Bradford most likely left to live with his mother again, Isabella published her books (?)

• 1910 Bradford adventured with Isabella finch

• 1900 birth and very young Bradford

also just like, I’m reaaally stretching it with the Clone Bros they just sorta appear during the Christmas episode in the past so like??? Only conclusion he made the clone bros around that time behind shush or used shush materials to help him out, also i skimmed the show so like hdjshd I’m pretty much here for Brad, very sorry if this looks like it doesn’t line up I’m really just here making up my own story dhjshdhs

[lewishamiltonstuff]

the opposite of exciting is what I felt during today's race

[fookinhellcurlyy]

Larry in Jamaica Masterpost Pt. 1

Quite a lot of things about Jamaica scattered around here, though I haven't found a fully outlined masterpost about it so here we go.

Also, what pushed me to research more about Jamaica was this debunk post from an anti. Since I don't have a full reference of what had transpired during that period, I decided to take on the responsibility of collating information across the internet, including this account's own debunks for transparency.

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February 2014

Harry on vacation.

TL:DR; The receipt of T Blair about Larry being together at that period. There is a possible debunk claim about his receipt I added below (huge grain of salt as per usual). Nonetheless, they could still have been together given the simultaneous MIA period.

H and L both went MIA on 28 Jan (Louis had been ski-ing with Eleanor previously and Harry had been in LA and also got the anchor tattoo) and were not seen again until 5/6 Feb.

Harry went to Jamaica for a family vacation as reported on 7 Feb. | x

There was a photo of him at the Norman Manley International Airport reposted by a UA from a fan on 7 Feb. | x

It was confirmed that James (Corden) and Gary (Barlow) were there. | x

Later on, it was mentioned by James that he first met Jeff (Azoff) in Jamaica. It was assumed that it was around this time.

The Larry receipt from a certain “T Blair” was posted on a forum/website. Comments span from 22 to 25 Feb. | x 

Possible debunk claim for T Blair: as per @larrynotlarrie | x

“In keeping with our intentions to be fair and present all sides of the situation as we see them - it has been brought to our attention by a valid source that the now-defunct blog that tblair commented on was run by someone who believed Harry and Louis were together at the time. The person who wrote the blog would at times create different aliases to comment on their own stories to generate traffic. Therefore, we do not stand behind the comments of tblair and believe “his” account of the situation was likely fiction. Whether or not H/L went to Jamaica together is up to everyone else’s interpretation/speculation.

Note: The larrienotlarrie account has already deactivated and I have no prior information about the content and credibility of the blog’s contents. Though this is the first seemingly larrie-centered blog I’ve seen that provided this possible debunk. 

EXTRA: Larry anon receipt mentioning the aqua tank top. | x

Not sure if they were pertaining to 2014 Jamaica or after that; but definitely before the September 2016 one.

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September 2016 to January 2017

Harry’s HS1 Album Recording / Possible multiple Larry in Jamaica occurrences.

TL;DR: It's possible that Larry were together in Jamaica multiple times between September 2016 to January 2017.

Tumblr post by @cristinayanggirl which was outsourced somewhere from Google (which is also the reason why I wanted to make a more thorough research of this series of Jamaica events). | x

September 2016 Jamaica Timeline by @sslarrysettingsail | x

TL;DR: Louis was spotted multiple times every month from January to August (1, 17, 20, 25, 21, 16,10, and 20 times), and was only seen 5/6 times after Harry left for Jamaica in September.

September and October 2016 Larry Location Summary by @iftheresnolove | x

TL;DR: In support of the aforementioned September 2016 timeline, the table above spans to October 2016.

Louis Sightings 2016 Summary by @parodiesofuktabloids | x

TL;DR: "So he’s definitely been seen in LA ~30% of the year. His unknown status is the biggest at ~40%, and he’s currently spent 25% of the year out of LA. It seems like more because as the year has gone on, he has been seen less and less in LA, and is either out of town or his whereabouts are unknown."

PART II: March 2017 + Others + Debunk Claims