#tillmizi

[traffys]

i’m sorry rjehzjdhdjd

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[kaokogap]

havent post anything for a while, sorry🥺 im still getting used to draw on ipad

[sharkfan100]

Final moments

[yuseirra]

**alien stage final round spoilers**

I really enjoy looking at the feelings and relationship dynamics between characters when I see a work. I feel I got a better grasp of/understood that aspect after seeing that most recent alien stage video, so I'd enjoy talking about it. Before I begin, I respect all the canon interactions and appreciate what they give us. The major "ships" for this, I am aware of, they are all very valid and I find all of them intriguing and interesting to see!

This particular stage, I feel, shows a really good insight of how Ivan and Till's love's are conveyed in contrast to each other.

Ivan appears to be very mannerly and he's very kind towards the fans, giving a lot of fanservice, he's the "good boy" of the group (excluding Luka who's simply "made for the stage") while Till tends to be the rebel. He swears towards the aliens, tries to run away, and does the unexpected on stage, he's a loose cannon as they say, but when it comes to "love", their attitudes tend to be the complete opposite.

It appears that Ivan's feelings towards Till is very complex for it to be defined simply as "love"(although I believe it is) although he's reserved on the outside, I feel he's the one has the hardest time dealing with his own emotions, since it does exist, but even he himself can't actually make out what they are. Idk how it's been translated but I saw him defining what he had towards Till as "shallow(얄팍한)" and apologizing to him as being his victim of it, I think it's the contrary. It's way too muddled and complicated, the artbook also mentions that he'd be the only one who can know what that feeling he has towards Till is. And I'm not even sure if he himself does in a complete sense. What I can see is that he does care. However, it seems like Ivan doesn't know how to care for Till in a way that'd come across to Till in a way that he'd like. In turn, he keeps acting in a way that'd provoke him to make the guy look back at him. He ruins the flowers Till treasures that he's received from Mizi, punches him, follows him around, nudges him, and acts pretty imposing and unpredictable when it comes to Till, he does things that Till doesn't want. It's out of his interest and fondness but it just can't come across to Till as a good thing. He doesn't hate him (he's still pretty fond of Ivan when I read the artbook) but finds him annoying. The artbook defines Ivan's feeling as one-sided, and sadly, it is very much that way. Ivan is the one that looks most mature out of the 4 kids that grew up together (Sua, Mizi, Till and Ivan himself) but they phrase Ivan as someone who's grown in terms of body but has never matured from being a child (P 208, 211 in the artbook) The problem here is that he never learned how to express his feeling properly. It always... ends up in a way that hurts Till. Till fails to comprehend or make out just what's happened as he sees Ivan dead in the final moments of stage 6. While Ivan manages to achieve his desired results of having Till finally look back at him, that's also all he gets. It was predictable, though. I feel like they'd have had a much friendlier relationship if they grew up in a normal, humane environment. In the end, Ivan does realize he's being selfish. I personally believe it's both selfish and selfless, a bit similar to how Sua was towards Mizi. They do things for the other but also, they do realize it's what the other party wouldn't enjoy/fully comprehend while they do it. But they can't help it since they want the other to survive.

Till's feelings for Mizi has been always there, I kind of feel it could get overshadowed a lot from how immensely big and impactful Ivan's actions have been portrayed throughout the series, but I really appreciate how they acknowledged Till's feelings for her's also something that's very genuine and what's gave him light. I read that the idea that Till had a crush on Mizi was there from the very early stages of development from the artbook. That's a crucial part of his character. And unlike how the usual "reserved and gentle" Ivan can get pretty aggressive to get a reaction out of Till (nothing against Ivan, just analyzing) Till's love is also pretty much unrequited, but he acts very selfless and gentle towards Mizi, he never does anything that'd.. affect her in a strong sense except for trying to express his feelings through music. While Ivan pokes, punches, grabs, kisses his love to get his attention, Till tends to blush and run away. This guy is very aware of what his feelings towards Mizi is, yet I think he understood his position and how much Mizi loves Sua so he keeps at a distance. His commentary about Mizi is that he believes "she's the most beautiful being in the entire universe and he felt reborn when she smiled at him." Oh wait?? he's an INFP??? REALLY??? Looking at the artbook and..;;hshshg to imagine an INFP acting like him.. oh, he must have suffered A LOT;; I guess he was always on edge in those harsh conditions then. His feelings towards Mizi didn't really come across so much either, as it is said she thought Till was evading her, she wanted to be more friendly with him being the jolly and sweet person she is though.

The outcome for these two are very similar but different. When I watched Till's fate..(yeah, I was shocked he almost NEVER stood a chance against Luka despite how good he is too;;) I think I felt sad, but I was.. also happy for him that he realized Mizi does genuinely care for him. What Ivan got wasn't mutual, Till didn't understand.. and he was engraved, but as a source of trauma (I find this inevitable though seeing how that stage played out). Mizi smiled at Till and he was so happy to see her again he immediately lit up and tried to reach out to her while the stage was still going on, their eyes meet, the way Ivan and Till did on the previous stage, but it was welcoming and out of glee. Of course the one Mizi loves is Sua, but it was sweet to see Mizi really caring for Till as a friend. He's also what she's wanted to save, and Till was suffering after he thought Mizi was gone, but he got that sense of relief in his last moments. There was a comment I found that I found was quite insightful about this situation. He doesn't ask much in return, he always was that person that'd accept and appreciate what she gave him. Was that really enough for Till? I'm not sure but, he was still happy from everything Mizi had given him. I do see Ivan having a harder time being the same way because Till would have been so focused on Mizi to look back at him if he was as passive and accepting as Till was to her, and besides, I think the type of "love" they have may not exactly be the same although it can be categorized as "love". "Love" comes in many different forms and it grew in ways that were affected by their environment and personalities. I appreciate how that was depicted. I feel Till's love towards Mizi is just as powerful as Ivan's love towards Till was, it displays the different types of one-sided love.

I can talk about Sua and Mizi's dynamic too, with that I'd be talking about all the four major ships (I talked about Hyuna and Luka in another post earlier!) but maybe I'll do that another time.

However, I'd still like to mention what I found interesting in the artbook! They say that Sua wanted to protect Mizi's naivety and shield her from reality, because she found salvation in it. It was a place of escape for her, they say (p44) she gave Mizi hope that there would be a good ending, and that's how Mizi completely broke down the moment Sua was gone. Mizi really didn't see it coming while Sua actually did as she sang. Sua wanted to remain in that moment forever with Mizi, they say (p39) she depended on Mizi as much as Mizi did for her. The artbook gives out a really good insight in terms of about how the characters feel about things and it's very colorful and thick and great to see in general, so I recommend you to buy it if you are interested in the series. I'm not a hardcore fan of this piece (yet) but it was still worth every penny to me so, I bet it'd be a gem for those who really care for it~

[melow232]

Alien Stage FINAL in my art style ❗SPOILERS❗

[cloverstar-li]

My life is over, kill me.

Alnst ≠ ship

[kioren333]

wake up

[aikorinbam]

My poor baby

[the-alien-stage]

Me before Blink, Gone: Haha, Tillmizi is such an odd ship. The one sidedness of it makes it feel incomplete and Ivantill is so much better!

Me after Blink, Gone: P O L Y C U L E

[aroy-aroy]

art cr yoki_short on twt

[lu-alnst]

source

[fuckityshitbang]

HI I NEED ALIEN STAGE FRIENDS OR ILL REMOVE THE SKIN FROM MY FACE AND WHOLE BODY

SPECIAL IMPORTANCE TO PPL WHO RP OR DRAW/WRITE FOR THE FANDOM

I'M LOSING MY MIND I'LL TAKE ANYTHING AND NEED AT LEAST SOMETHING TY

[vesper-leroy]

Okay okay seen this debate too much on twt and I'm curious now. What are your thoughts on

[summert519]

[cloverandstuff]

Little Game - [Till and Mizi Edit]

(i...am so very tired. round 7, my beloated)

[iri-desky]

Hey Alien Stage nation.

I won't wanna add salt to the wound or anything but.

The Song "I miss you" by Blink-182 could work for both Till singing to Mizi or Ivan singing about Till.

Perfectly. Please consider claiming this song. Please.

I'd like to elaborate:

"Hello there, the angel from my nightmare. The shadow in the background of the morgue." It would describe how the memory of Mizi is haunting Till, or how Till continues to probe Ivan's mind, no matter how out of reach he becomes. It's his love that hurts him; the "deep obsession with undertones of nausea"

"Where are you? And I'm so sorry. I cannot sleep, I cannot dream tonight. I need somebody and always, this sick strange darkness, comes creeping in so haunting every time." A line describing both Till and Ivan's sick obsessions with their respective love interests, but sick less in the sense of "Disgusting interests" but more "I think of you so much that it makes me ill."

"And as I stare I counted the webs from all the spiders, catching things and eating their insides...like indecision to call you, and hear your voice of treason, will you come home and stop this pain tonight? Just stop this pain tonight." 'Your voice of treason' could reflect cure's line regarding drowning in your lover, and how you don't care if they hurt you, you just want them here. And "come home and stop this pain tonight" could reflect how Mizi's fate is uncertain to Till, which absolutely destroys his psyche; conversely, in Ivan's view, it reflects how he just wants Till to see him and come for him, "come home", and end all that yearning he just knows deep inside will never end.

And last, but NOT LEAST...

"Don't waste your time on me, you're already a voice inside my head."

Till is starting to give up on Mizi, and at this point he just is starting to resign himself, asking Mizi not to waste her time on him; after all, he's already gaining hallucinations has gone too insane over her, she's already a voice in his head that's torturing him already. As for Ivan, he's regretfully accepted that Till will never love him back, so he tells him not to waste his precious time on him and thus pursue his own life and freedom, telling him that he's gone insane enough thinking and dreaming of him that Till is still on his mind, torturing him just as much as mizi is torturing Till as a voice in his head. He's gone insane over him, and he just his setting him free.

*runs away*