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@somegrumpynerd :3c Cross getting his first toy ever
I think it's the kind of thing he brings everywhere cuz it's his comfort item.. and he's never had a comfort item before
#This might be very ooc cause i'm just not good at writing characters??#I'm not the best at knowing how characters would act T T#Killer is the one that gave it to him#but really it's Nightmare who had it made#it's a wolf cause of course it is#Idk what he'd name it#probably like thunder or smth#Charlie you can choose the name if you'd like#this took so long bc it was basically four whole drawings lmao#undertale#my art#undertale au#sans au#utmv#pigeon's art stuff#cross sans#cross!sans#xtale cross#pigeon's digital stuff
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#greek gods#greek myths#epic fandom#epic memes#little wolf#epic#polites#athena#calypso#epic the musical#epic musical#epic odysseus#epic the circe saga#epic the cyclops saga#epic the musical fanart#epic the ocean saga#epic the thunder saga#epic the troy saga#epic the underworld saga#epic the wisdom saga#epic: the musical#epic the vengeance saga#odysseus of ithaca#epic the ithaca saga#jorge rivera herrans#mr jalapeño#greek mythology memes#meme
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Alucard’s bat transformation 🦇 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (1997), dev. Konami
#castlevania#castlevania: symphony of the night#alucard#gamingedit#dailygaming#edit:all#edit:gif#cvedit#sotnedit#after i got the bat and mist transformations my brain Opened... this game is so good holy shit 😭#im sorry alucard for thinking your gameplay abilities didn’t live up to your name… i just hadn’t Seen. you ARE the Son of Dracula#mist-bat-wolf-transforming thunder-fire-magic-casting master swordsman served by a demon a fairy and an intelligent flying sword
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Dear Telemachus
#epic the wisdom saga#epic the musical#epic the ocean saga#epic the thunder saga#epic the underworld saga#epic the troy saga#telemachus#the odyssey#little wolf#jorge rivera herrans#my art :p#epic
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MAIL IS HERE 🗣️🗣️
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#epic the musical#epic the thunder saga#wisdom saga#little wolf#antinous#athena#telemachus#artists on tumblr#art#animatic#Youtube
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how is legendary not even top ten most streamed on jay's spotify it's like the best epic song ever ??
#ok im lying i rlly like warrior of the mind and open arms#and just a man#and god games#and jump in the water#little wolf#ykw all of them#BUT HOW😔#did telemachus not mean anything to u#odysseus epic#epic the ithaca saga#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#epic the vengeance saga#epic the thunder saga#epic musical#epic odysseus#jorge rivera herrans
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Me when I found out the “friend” Athena had was my father

YOU AINT GETTING HER BACK SHES MY FRIEND AND REPLACEMENT PARENTAL FIGURE NOW BITCHHHH
(More of an explanation in the long af tags)
#I have very strong feelings on this matter#Little Wolf yaps#Listen I loved my father (Odysseus) but#He hadn’t been there#Since I was under a year old#And I know EPIC makes our reunion and shit wholesome#And it was#but I need y’all to know#i did not trust that fucker for a LONG ASS time#Like#couple months to over a year and a half#I didn’t really like it when he was alone with mom (Penelope)#But she assured me that she was fine#And I trusted her#so it was alright#i was a momma’s boy#Fuck off#telemachus epic the musical#epic the thunder saga#epic the wisdom saga#epic the ithaca saga#epic the vengeance saga#epic the musical#Telemachusepic#odysseus#telemachus#penelope#athena#odypen
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DuvetBox arrival in Suffering- “Hey, I know I’m late, but I’m here now.”
DuvetBox uploads since then- *bursts through the door, sunglasses on, Starbucks in hand.* “Move, bitches. I’m here.”
#duvetbox#epic the musical#odysseus#epic athena#epic telemachus#epic zeus#epic calypso#thunder bringer#little wolf#epic legendary#love in paradise#six hundred strike#epic the thunder saga#epic the wisdom saga#epic the vengeance saga#I mean am I right or am I right?#can you guess who one of my favorite animators is?
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The villains (more or less for Calypso) of the last two sagas of Epic the Musical! I think they're my favourite of all. For see their WIP you can check the video on youtube here!
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#character design#epic the musical#jorge rivera herrans#epic the wisdom saga#youtube#epic the musical fanart#circe#epic circe saga#epic the thunder saga#epic the underworld saga#calypso#the suitors#antinous#love in paradise#little wolf#scylla#epic#epic the musical art#Youtube#vengeance saga#epic the vengeance saga#600 strike#get in the water#digital artist#digital art
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''What an akward family reunion..''
Poor fenrir and Jormi, it's a little akward meeting family members destined to kill you :,D
#record of ragnarok#shuumatsu no valkyrie#ror#snv#norse mythology#norse pantheon#norse myth#norse gods#loki's kids#loki's children#jormungandr#fenris#fenris wolf#fenrir#ror fenrir#snv fenrir#ror jormungandr#jörmungandr#vidar#vidarr#ror thor#snv thor#thor god of thunder#thor
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>:3 mc of the thing I am working on. I'm calling them Turkey.
I'm not quite sure about their gender yet. I think I want to make them intersex. Could be an interesting dynamic within the pack.
They are half dog. Can be seen in more white in coat, larger ears, darker eyes, and smaller size. Also they bark more often.
Not quite sure about their backstory. Thinking they are adopted by the pack. Parents were probably killed by humans bc wolf dogs are a no-no (please don't support the breeding of wolf dogs, if you want more info, feel free to send an ask and I WILL yap)
The story will start from their perspective as a older pup. Pack dynamic works more like warrior cats clans than actual packs.
#i love themb#guess who ha sto relearn wolves hahahshsh#oc story#wolf#my art#art#digitail art#thunder's rumbles
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This is basically how Little Wolf went tbr
#epic the musical#the odyssey#epic wisdom saga#wisdom saga#epic the musical fanart#epic antinous#epic telemachus#little wolf basically#my art#epic the underworld saga#epic the wisdom saga#epic the thunder saga#epic the ocean saga#epic the cyclops saga#epic the troy saga#epic the circe saga#epic odysseus
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#epic fandom#epic the musical fanart#epic memes#epic odysseus#epic musical#epic the circe saga#epic the cyclops saga#epic the musical#epic the ocean saga#epic the thunder saga#epic the troy saga#epic the vengeance saga#epic the underworld saga#epic#epic the wisdom saga#greek gods#greek myths#little wolf#polites#athena#calypso#epic: the musical#jorge rivera herrans#mr jalapeño#odysseus#penelope#odysseus of ithaca#epic the ithaca saga#telemachus#poseidon
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Sad Canon.
What if in Epic, Penelope shut herself in her room after an incident? She was just out and about. You know, enjoying her palace as much as she could in spite of the unwelcome guests. Then Antinous has to be the creep that he is and tries to force himself on her, but Telemachus steps in (is probably a young teen at this point) and just gets laughed at. She sees that he's going to get really hurt if this keeps up, so she just stops leaving her room to protect them both.
#epic#epic the musical#epic wisdom saga#epic the thunder saga#epic the underworld saga#epic the circe saga#epic the troy saga#little wolf#epic telemachus#epic penelope#jorge rivera herrans
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Why do you say Canon Tawnypelt's faced no prejudice?
Because Bramblekit did. At least in the first arc. In fact, everything about that scenario is about Bramblekit.
No one EVER said anything about Tawnykit being the daughter of Tigerstar, or that she was inherently suspicious because of it, or that she would follow in his footsteps. Bramblekit was the one that Fireheart kept having a flipout over any time he caught the little guy's eye color. Tawnypaw gave up ThunderClan to be with her father that she presumably believed loved her and would welcome her better than her actual Clanmates, and yet Tigerstar is all focused on Bramblepaw because he's more worthy of being trained by his father.
No one gave a shit about Tawnykit/paw in the first arc. I can't remember a single time she felt the pressure Bramblekit/paw was under by the main character and his Clanmates. She had less reason to go to Tigerstar than Bramblekit/paw did, but she went anyway. Why, I can't say. I guess they just wanted a Tiger kit in ShadowClan, but they didn't want to give up the precious boy, so they threw an underdeveloped girl at the Clan and promptly forgot about her.
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EPIC!Polites had to die
(Hear me out!)
Anyways, i talked a bit about how Polites literally moves the plot in EPIC ( here) but this time I'm sorta gonna mirror the arguments.
So, this is all gonna come across as Polites favoritism, but (though you don't have to agree with what I say) know my arguments are taken straight from the text.
So, why does Polites have to die?
Because EPIC cannot happen without his death (for two reasons)
Number One
As I state in my linked post, Polites is the only person Odysseus is shown to listen to.
Odysseus changes his mind/his actions 3 times in Act 1.
Zeus: Odysseus would not have killed that infant if Zeus did not tell him to. Zeus tells him the infant will kill Odysseus' loved ones in the future & with a heavy heart, Odysseus acquiesces.
Tiresias: Odysseus would not have become the monster if the prophet had not told him he would never get home + Penelope was with a murderer.
Polites: at the end of "Open Arms" Odysseus starts to seriously consider Polites' words (that's why he sings Polites' words "Greet the world with open arms" back to him.) Thats also why that's the moment Athena chooses to come berate Odysseus. Odysseus has been guilt-ridden since Astyanax, but Athena chooses this moment, when Odysseus is with Polites & listening to him, to tell him he's "forgotten to turn off [his] heart."
One of these instances is not like the other.
Unlike with Zeus or Tiresias, Polites is not threatening Penelope/Odysseus' family.
These are also not the only instances of someone trying to change Odysseus' mind (or trying to tell him what to do)
Odysseus disregards Athena's instructions to kill Polyphemus & when she doubles down on his recklessness/disappointing actions, Odysseus essentially tells her to fuck right off.
Odysseus refuses to give Poseidon a real apology (not saying it would have saved his crew or not, but Odysseus clearly thought it would, hence him playing along)
Odysseus doesn't allow himself to be tempted by Circe in order to save his men (not saying this is a bad thing btw!!)
And then there's Eurylochus.
Eurylochus, notably, tries to reason with change Odysseus' mind a whopping Five Times in Act 1.
Full Speed Ahead: "We don't know what's ahead"
Remember Them: "Captain, we should run"
Storm: "Captain, we will capsize with these waves, our fleet will fail"
Luck Runs Out: (literally the entire song)
Puppeteer: "Think about the men we have left, before there're none"
And Odysseus listens a total of zero times.
And yet, unlike with "Luck Runs Out" when Polites tries to tell Odysseus to change his behavior/his mind/his way of thinking, Odysseus puts up a lukewarm resistance at best AND he sincerely considers Polites' words.
Number Two
Out of all the characters we've been introduced to this far (up to the Thunder Saga) Polites is the one who knows Odysseus best (AND the one he is closest to)
I know we only have 2-3 songs to establish Odysseus & Polites' relationship while Polites is alive (though he does very much haunt the narrative, even up to "Suffering" as Jorge recently-ish informed us) but OH BOY, is it Thoroughly established.
Full Speed Ahead:
The joy in Odysseus' voice when he greets Polites vs the more professional affection given to Eurylochus' entrance.
Not only the fact that Odysseus chooses Polites out of 600 men to scout the island with him, but that he choses only Polites. Either he can trust his life to Polites' skill as a warrior OR (more likely imo) he wants some alone time. And he feels he can be alone/himself with Polites.
Open Arms:
Polites immediately knows something's up with Odysseus but (unlike Eurylochus in "Luck Runs Out") he doesn't say anything in front of the crew, rather waiting until they're alone on the island. Either Polites has more tact than Eury OR (more likely imo) he knows Ody--enough to know he doesnt respond well to being called out in front of others or how to best approach a conversation about his mental state
Polites correctly calls out that Odysseus is tired of war (which Odysseus confirms in "Just a Man"), that he's stressed out ("Look at how you grip your sword, enough said"), and that something is eating at him ("I see in your face there is so much guilt inside your heart")
Odysseus never gets defensive with Polites or shuts down him down (unlike in "Luck Runs Out") despite the fact that Polites IS calling Odysseus out, (Just Like Eurylochus in LRO!) The most we get is a half-hearted/unconvincing "I'm fine, Polites" which makes ME think Ody isn't trying too hard to convince Polites, either because he knows he can't get one past his best friend or because he doesnt want to wear a mask, not around Polites.
((arguably!!)) Odyssues only goes to the cave/trusts the lotus-eater's information because of Polites (which is another instance of him being swayed by Polites or of the affection he holds for his friend being strong enough for him to want to please him)
Survive:
Polites' death is what causes Odysseus to freeze up/go into shock. Odysseus stops captaining his men & leaves them orderless (despite their pleas for him to resume command) solely because Polites dies (and we do have confirmation on this given that in the last live-stream, the stage directions during "Remember Them" tell us Odysseus is still staring at Polites' body up until Eurylochus snaps him out of it)
[edit]Underworld:
Odysseus becomes overwhelmed by the accusing voices of the underworld & starts to spiral (arguably starts having the beginnings of a panic attack)
Polites' voice snaps him out of it (listen to the change in the music/soundscape from "I keep thinking of the infant from that night" to "This life is amazing"
There is audible relief/hope in Odysseus' first "Polites." I hesitate to call it joy, but everything does become lighter
However, Polites CAN'T offer Odysseus comfort/support, since he's not really here/he's just a spirit stuck in his deathloop
Odysseus' 2nd "Polites" sounds dejected/small when he realizes Polites can't interact with him/stay
He was hoping for comfort/support! He heard Polites & the screams IMMEDIATELY quiet! His mood audibly lifts! Polites is canonically Odysseus' emotional/mental support, as seen in "Open Arms" (check out my super long post analyzing "Open Arms" lyric by lyric here) and by how we are shown/told he's noticeably changed in the Ocean Saga (both by Eurylochus suddenly doubting Odysseus + the lyric "Everything's changed since Polites)
So, why do I think Polites had to die to keep the EPIC plot as is?
Well, given the information we have (and including no further speculation or headcanons) we know five things:
Odysseus trusts Polites
Odysseus cares deeply about Polites
Polites can effectively tell when something is bothering Odysseus
Polites can call Odysseus out without getting shut out/down
Polites can get Odysseus to listen/change his mind
Which tells me, Polites could have likely prevented everything past the blinding of Polyphemus.
We KNOW Polites' death is a large part of what causes Odysseus to shout out his name ("My friend is dead") but beyond that:
If anyone is going to tell something is eating at Odysseus in the Ocean Saga, it's Polites. (No other crew member tries to figure out how Odyssues is doing mentally/emotionally OR figures out what's bothering him beyond "Everything's changed since Polites") If Polites is alive, Odysseus isn't carrying all the weight on his own, because Polites will notice & reach out
Polites has a track record of getting Odysseus to listen. If they need to talk to him, it most likely wouldn't be Eurylochus stepping up if Polites lived
Odysseus trusts Polites. If they still get the windbag, Odysseus is letting Polites take a shift
If Polites lives, the plot of EPIC is diverted during the Ocean Saga at latest. Either Odysseus isn't made reckless with grief/anger & thus doesn't reveal his name. Or he doesn't become isolated/succumbs to his stress (and thus allows doubt to sow within the crew) because Polites is there to reach out. Or he trusts the windbag to Polites & they make it home to Ithaca.
Polites has to die to cement Odysseus' downward spiral.
Thank you for coming to my tedtalk.
#wolf's posts#epic: the musical#epic meta#polites#*odysseus voice* you doomed them! you doomed them ALL polites!!#jk#but also like...we have confirmation of polites haunting the narrative up to the thunder saga!!#his death literally seals the deal on odysseus' fate#odysseus#epic the troy saga#epic the cyclops saga#epic the musical#musicals
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