#thought mon-el does come first technically lol

[karaspal]

the arm placement in those pictures says everything it needs to say about what went wrong snyder’s superman.

[whyemma]

92 Statements

i was tagged by @starkdelinquents -- thank you so much babe!!!!

RULES: you must answer 92 statements and tag 20 people.

THE LAST 1. Drink: tea 2. Phone call: mom probably? 3. Text: “is this what it feels like to be jewish” (context: i thought that i didn’t have christmas eve off this year and in my county we get off on like 2 jewish holidays total because we’re a very christian county) 4. Song you listened to: sober ii (melodrama) by lorde 5. Time you cried: last night lmao! 6. Dated someone twice: nah 7. Kissed someone and regretted it: it was a bad kiss but it’s a good story so 8. Been cheated on: technically no but this guy was talking to me and another girl at the same time (we weren’t official but it still sucked) 9. Lost someone special: yes 10. Been depressed: i’m not sure. sometimes i think maybe i do have depression but i have never been to therapy or anything Gotten drunk and thrown up: nope

LIST 3 FAV COLOURS (12-14): pastel pink, emerald green, blue

IN THE LAST YEAR HAVE YOU: 15. Made new friends: yes !!! 16. Fallen out of love: lol nah 17. Laughed until you cried: definitely 18. Found out someone was talking about you: probably 19. Met someone who changed you: yes 20. Found out who your friends are: hella 21. Kisses someone on your Facebook list: nah facebook is for old people

GENERAL 22. How many of your fb friends do you know irl: facebook is for old people 23. Do you have any pets: yes 24. Do you want to change your name: no 25. What did you do for your last bday: went to see blair witch w my friends 26. Time you woke up: 8:45am 27. What were you doing at midnight last night: sleeping 28. Name something you can’t wait for: my leg to heal 29. Last time u saw ur mom: last night 30. Last time u saw ur best friend: yesterday morning 31. What were u listening to rn: love by kendrick lamar 32. Have u ever talked to a person named tom: yes!                                         33. Something that is getting on ur nerves: people calling my injury fake         34. Most visited website: this hellhole 

35- 37: three fav albums!! (if they dont have questions im making them up) melodrama by lorde, folie a deux by fob, wild world by bastille                         38: Hair colour: brown 39: Long or short hair: medium 40. Do u have a crush on someone: unless u count tom holland, mon-el, or bellamy, no 41. What do u like about ur self: i think i’m pretty funny and smart 42. Piercings: ears 43. Blood type: i dont know man  44. Nickname: em  45. Relationship status: single 46. Zodiac: virgo 47. Pronouns: she/her 48. Fav tv show: the 100 or supergirl 49. Tattoos: none 50. Right or left handed: right handed 51. Surgery: i had to have surgery on my shoulder bc i tore my labrum and popped cartilage off of my shoulder bone (the ball in the ball and socket) 52. piercing: ears? again? 53. Sport: golf and track, maybe soccer but it’s doubtful and sad 54. Hobby: writing, noodling on the uke 55. Vacation: going to see hamilton on broadway soon!!!!                                 56. Instrument: oboe/ukulele

MORE GENERAL 57. Eating rn: just had an apple 58. Drinking rn: tea 59. I’m about to: watch criminal minds maybe? 60. I just: had an apple? did an ab workout? 61. Waiting for: someone to show me where my bike is 62. Want to: work on my writing but i have a schedule ok 63. Get married: hopefully someday, if i love them 64. Career: hopefully writing for snl or the daily show or smth

WHICH IS BETTER 65. Hugs or kisses: hugs 66. Lips or eyes: eyes 67. Shorter or taller: taller 68. Older or younger: for dating, older 69. i give up man 70. Nice arms or nice stomach: arms 71. yall come up with it u got this 72. Hook up or relationship: relationship 73. Troublemaker or hesitant: troublemaker with a heart of gold that does NOT vape

HAVE YOU EVER 74. Kissed a stranger: no 75. Drank hard liquor: one time i tried some of my dad's irish coffee does that count 76. Lost glasses/contacts: 20/20 vision baby 77. Turned someone down: sadly yes 78. Sex on the first date: im a virgo for a reason 79. Broken someone’s heart: hopefully not but i suspect maybe a little bit 80. Had ur heart broken: define heartbreak 81. Been arrested: lol nah 82. Cried when someone died: uh yes 83. Fallen for a friend: nahhhh

DO YOU BELIEVE IN 84. Yourself: sometimes!!  85. Miracles: depends on the miracle 86. Love at first sight: i wish lol  87. Santa Claus: uhhhhhhhh ya of course what r u tryna say ??????????????88. Kiss on the first date: i mean if it flows man 89. Angels: i want to 

OTHER 90. Current bf’s name: peter parker 91. Eye Colour: grey-green?? 92. Fav movie: wonder woman or spiderman own my ass

im making an attempt to tag people here but im also very lazy

@hxayleykiyoko (SHE’S BACK YALL) @sherlockvowsontheriverstyx @dr-camerongoodkin @cupcakeblake @itwontsurvivemee @bellamythology @smallmoonplant @mon-kai-el @sapphicoctavia @blogless-url

[whosaysitsfantasy]

Karamel thoughts

I don’t expect to change anyones mind or start an argument or anything I simply want to put in my own opinion.

I would like to begin by Discussing Mon-el, first off yes I am a karamel shipper, yes I love Mon-el  that being said no I don’t think he is perfect and I do think he is severely flawed. Mon-el came from a planet where it was ok to have slaves and where their citizens were put down and him and his family were raised above everyone else. He lived this way for at least 21+ years.

Now no, when you are living in a bad environment you do not necessarily have to become like those around you. People who have abusive parents or alcoholic parents do not have to become like that. That being said It is also 100% possible that those types of situations can effect how you grow up and your view on the world. Mon-el was raised to believe he deserved whatever he wanted, that he should be served. He was raised in an environment that never questioned or really showed any other alternative. For that reason he was a shit person, and he has a LOT to not only be ashamed of but to make up for.

Now when Mon-el came to earth all he knew was what he was taught. upon arriving on earth and meeting Kara and the rest at the DEO he quickly had to learn that what he knew on Daxam was not the only way and may not actually be the right way. Now Mon-el has only been on earth for a short period of time i don’t even think it’s been a year yet.. (correct me if I’m wrong). I think it is going to take longer than a year for him to completely shed 21+ years of a lifestyle he has known.

That being said.. he is clearly and actively TRYING. He’s no where near perfect and he is 100% flawed and sometimes comes across as what yes might seem as abusive, but that being said he isn’t aware of it, he hasn’t had real healthy relationships and he is trying to be better (and no I'm not saying being unaware makes in excusable Im simply saying he is not doing in with malicious intent) What everyone has to realize is Mon-el is not trying to bring Kara down, he does not want to hurt her. He is ashamed of his past, scared of how she might react to the truth because she has made her feelings about Daxam royalty VERY clear and he is still trying to learn.  I personally think the hatred towards Mon-el is a little misplaced. Just like Kara and every other superhero Mon-el deserves time to grow and face his past and his mistakes.

Now going onto Kara. I love Kara she’s adorable and sweet and so so good, but that being said if you are naive enough to claim that she is perfect you need to look again.

Kara. Danvers. Is . A . Flawed. Person.(or Alien technically ;P )

just like literally everyone. and now that DOES NOT mean she’s bad or should be hated on. NO. That just means that she is not ALWAYS right. Sometimes Kara is a little self righteous, sometimes she does not always look at every angle. SOMETIMES Kara needs a little help, she has all these powers but theres more to being a super hero then that, even the most powerful person in the world needs support. She is also very prejudice against Daxam. Which is understandable, however that doesn’t necessarily mean that she should just write them off as terrible. Both Krypton and Daxam are flawed races. Just like surprise surprise.. the human race.

Both sides have made bad choices. SO yes, Mon-el lying to her was wrong, however NO he is not evil for it because while Kara is a wonderful person she has made her prejudices towards Daxam very clear so naturally Mon-el would be afraid to tell her the truth JUST LIKE JAMES WAS AFRAID TO TELL HER HE WAS THE GUARDIAN & JUST LIKE M’GANN WAS SCARED TO TELL J’ONN. because Kara god bless her, can be very strong headed. She is very set in her beliefs which isn’t bad but can sometimes be a hinderance. It can prevent her from being open and understanding of those closest to her. Was the lying ok? No. Is it understandable why they did? Yes.

Mon-el was not proud of who he was. He wanted to change and be different because of Kara and because of how she showed him that there is something wrong with the way he lived. Now upon learning this Mon-el has actively started to try and change. He started training with her, and helping the DEO, he got an actual job and tries to be better. Does he fail? yes. But is he trying YES. For this reason saying he is terrible and deserves to rot in hell is incredibly misplaced. Is he very good in their relationship not always no. Why is this? Because he has never been in a real genuine healthy relationship. You cannot hate him because he knows nothing else. Especially when he is actively trying.

Relationships have ups and downs. Sometimes people lie because they are scared, sometimes they don’t treat each other perfectly. The fact of the matter is.. is that Mon-el keeps trying, When Kara shuts him down he learns, and he keeps trying. NOW if its a season or 2 into his role on the show and he’s still trying to side step her anger and he’s still trying to say ‘ok i’m sorry lets just carry on’ then sure start yelling abuse. But don’t tell me that someone trying to change their ways after 21+ years of being groomed a certain way is inherently bad and inherently abusive. Cause in no way does he ever try and tare her down, he actually praises her a LOT and admires her a LOT. & no their arguing doesn't count as him ‘taring her down’ because then she would be considered abusive as well because she has made some pretty cruel comments towards him too. It goes both ways. 

Cause trust me. Someone can be abusive, not realize it and then eventually work to change their ways. Specifically with emotional abuse. Relationships can be very hard, and while yes there are TERRIBLE people out there who emotionally abuse people with no remorse there are also people who realize what they have done and work to be better because they never wanted to actively hurt someone in that way.

While no not all abusers should be forgiven. Not all abusers actually care that they are hurting someone. There are people who have abused someone emotionally and not known what they were doing. There are people who have hurt people and have tried to fix themselves and have tried to be a better person because they are not proud of what they have done & because they know it is wrong. 

With all of that being said… I personally think it’s good that Karamel has broken up for now. Kara first off needs to learn that everything is not black and white. That sometimes people make mistakes and sometimes she is a little quick to judge. Mon-el needs to realize that everything is not always going to be easy. He needs to realize that his actions have consequences and that he has to really work to listen and respect his significant other if he wants things to work.

I think their time apart can give them both clarity. I think Mon-el needs to grow a little on his own without a relationship so that he can be even better and even healthier when he eventually gets back IN a relationship. He needs to see who he can be without Kara as a girlfriend and without anymore secrets. He needs a little bit more time to grow.

This same storyline happened with J’onn and m’gann and the green and white martians. This idea that your race makes you inherently evil. AS WELL AS lying about it because of how ashamed you are of it.  Did we hate M’gann because she lied about her race? Can we really blame someone for being so ashamed of what happened that they should be written off? As well Mon-el’s guard insisted he leave everyone behind.. while yes its definitely something to feel guilty about no, its not all on Mon-el. Also during that situation when there is literally very few things in which he could do and he is frazzled and being rushed out. No you cant necessarily hold it against him. Yes he should feel guilty and should work to make amends for his choices, but I don’t think you can blame someone for making a bad choice in a life or death situation like that.

Anyways.. thats kinda my own thoughts on the subject. I like to stay out of ship wars and arguments. I love all the ships and I love all the characters so I hate everyone hating on one another but I just had to explain my opinion as someone who understand various sides to everyone’s arguments. I refuse to argue about this and I will never participate in hate or endorse it.

So to just end this. If you are against Karamel thats fine, thats your choice but please don’t hate other shippers who like it and don’t tag your hate. and if you are FOR Karamel please don’t hate other shippers who dislike it and don’t attack them or single them out. Also don’t participate in hating on other ships. I really hope I don't get much flack for this lol but yea.. thats all I have to say on the matter.

Lets just all try and be kind to one another. Its what Supergirl would want <3

[notallthosewho-wanderarelost]

Completely agree on the writers not knowing what to do with characters! It's a problem that's especially obvious with James, but I'd argue that it applies to Winn too. He's had pretty much no significant development since the show moved to the CW. He's hardly shown up this season at all. I was actually just thinking the other day that it'd be really cool if they brought back Winn's dad for an episode. I would really love for them to fix this problem, but again, it seems like it comes with the network. Notice how after the show switched networks we almost never see Kara doing her day job? It's a lot like how on The Flash we never see Barry being a CSI unless it happens to be directly relevant to a Flash thing.

And I agree with you on James and Lena too. I'm interested in seeing where they go with it, because the idea of James Olsen dating Lena Luthor can go to some interesting places, but I'm not sure the show will give it the depth or the time it deserves, unfortunately. I kind of think the writers may have a long term plotline in mind for Lena that needs time to simmer and is taking a backseat to Reign for this season, so that may be why she's had so little to do. Though she does have the whole thing with Edge going on, which is pretty interesting and is hopefully setup for something next season. (Sidenote, where is Cadmus? We haven't heard anything about them this season at all, and it's weird.)

I guess I haven't been seeing the same reactions you have. :) I tend to stay out of the Supergirl tag though, the fandom can really get to me so I try to just avoid it. I've seen some reactions on YouTube and stuff, and from tv reviewers online, but I don't really make it a point to go looking for them.

I'm sorry to hear you've been losing interest in Kara! Personally I'm really enjoying the running theme of Kara finding her humanity, because one of the things I find so fascinating about her character - as a whole, and not just on the show- is that unlike her cousin, where he's Clark Kent at heart underneath the Superman identity, Kara isn't Kara Danvers (or Kent, or whatever name they give her in various continuities) but Kara Zor-El. She's an alien pretending to be human, while Clark is more like a human with powers. (Which the show mentioned in the season 1 finale iirc.) Show Kara is a bit different because she was younger when she came to Earth and has been here a lot longer so her identity of herself as Kara Danvers is a lot more prominent than it is* in comics, but I love that the show is exploring that. And that it's reaffirming the idea that no matter how alien someone is, it doesn't mean they're not human, that not being technically human doesn't mean that Kara isn't human in all the ways that really count. Plus after what happened with Mon-El at the end of last season I feel like it made sense for Kara to try to shit down her emotions- especially considering her own past.

*or I guess "was," because reboots.

While I'm on this topic, I want to mention that one of the big things I really really miss from season 1 is the exploration of Kara's life on Krypton. I was really excited for Reign being the main villain this season because I thought we'd get more Krypton stuff. Hopefully it's on it's way later this season. (I'd love for them to eventually adapt the Bottle City of Kandor arc, because that has SO much potential for emotional twists, but I'm not sure the budget could handle it lol. Plus they'd have to introduce Brainiac first.)

I'm usually not a shipper, at all- I care more about characters' development than who they're dating- but I actually really liked Kara and Mon-El together last season, and one of the main reasons for that was because with Mon-El, Kara got to be Kara Zor-El, not just Kara Danvers. And I liked their relationship because they made each other to grow as people- the example you mentioned, where Kara pushed Mon-El to be a hero despite him not wanting to, ended up teaching Kara that not everyone wants what she wants and that she should help Mon-El on his terms, not on her own. And for Mon-El, it eventually led to his being inspired by Kara's drive to help others and be a hero, and to his getting over his initial hesitation and stopping putting himself first in order to do what Kara did and help others.

That was a bit of a tangent, sorry. 😅 I wanted to respond to your point about Kara pushing Mon-El to be a hero and it... kind of got long. Also, I don't want you to get the wrong impression, I'm not trying to change your opinion or anything, I just wanted to respond to what you said. You should feel what you feel and I'm absolutely not trying to change that.

ETA (because I belatedly realized I forgot about your last paragraph): Yeah, I'm not sure what the best way for them to handle Mon-El staying would be. On one hand, if he also starts superheroing in National City, then maybe we could see more of Kara actually doing her day job because she'd have more time for that. But the writers might find it hard to strike a good balance with that in terms of making sure that Mon-El doesn't take over Kara's slot as the lead and the chief hero of National City, while also not diminishing his own growth and capabilities. One thing I could see working is to have Mon-El work part time as a consultant for the DEO in lieu of heroing, because he must have a lot of info on different aliens and things that the DEO could use (which would also be consistent with his role in the Legion from what we know so far), and then going into the field when Kara or the DEO could use the extra help. Because you're right, that scene of him being domestic while Kara went out to save the city last season was great, but that'll only work once. Having that happen constantly would get annoying since it doesn't fit with his character, especially after his time in the Legion.

I do think it's possible to write it so they can both be heroes without giving up the focus on Kara, but they'd have to get creative about it.

So I was just poking around the Supergirl reddit to see if there was any news on the Legion or Mon-El that I hadn’t seen (there wasn’t), and there are a lot of people debating whether a Legion of Superheroes spinoff is possible. Except for some reason people are arguing that it’d be only be a possibility if Mon-El leaves Supergirl to be on the Legion show, and if he stays with Kara on Supergirl then there definitely won’t a Legion spinoff.

Like… Mon-El can stay on Supergirl and the Legion can get their own spinoff show. There are lots of Legionnaires, they can easily carry their own show without Chris/Mon-El. The two things aren’t mutually exclusive, this isn’t a hard concept???