#this sounds crazy ill probably delete this in the morning this feels crazy i think it is

[dreadfuldevotee]

Like I love Star Wars, I have to begin this statement by saying Star Wars is a genuine joy of my life and when its good it means Everything and even when it kinda fucking sucks I still love it. MY ISSUE is that everyone is fucking insufferable. Star Wars fans are some of the most annoying people I've ever had the misfortune of talking to. I can name every person I can stand to have a extended conversation with where we are both giving thoughts and opinions on One Hand. The fans across the board, are joyless and nhilistic and I'm convinced half the people who talk about SW hate it because you're not having fun, nothing is good enough if its not the exact version that exists in their head and I just couldn't do it anymore. Even people who I agreed with and thought their criticism are valid just! where is your joy! Why are you here if you hate it so much??

So I took a fucking break! The Ahsoka Discourse took me out and I wanted a different all consuming black hole of sci-fi to swallow me whole. And it was either DW or Star Trek but between Good Omens putting David Tennant all over my TL and a trip through my universities theater archives reminding me how much I adored Antigone and Jodie and Christopher's performances in it, I choose here! And honestly I don't know why I wasn't into this show sooner, like I was here on tumblr since late 2013, idk how I missed the bus but it doesn't matter. But, I come on here and twitter and tiktok and it's just the same shit. Like the discourse is near identical, the terms are just different but they're the same! And I come on here and its like "Oh boy I can't want to talk about the parts of this show I find enjoyable and the things that I find interesting, I sure hope I don't have to wade against waves of hate from every fucking angle again because you're all sad little losers sucking some random white guy's dick" I don't know WHHYYYYY I'm surprised that that's exactly what it is!

Its such a shame I really really enjoy fandom, in the sense of: creativity and fan creations and discussion and theory and just general comradery but also I think if I have to see another person who only writes "critical" think pieces on 13 but is balls deep into 10 or 11 I am going to start screaming, I think. Like I'm not the first person to say it and I won't be the last but its not about thinking its perfect, ever. And maybe its because her era just ended and it'll cool off but I DON'T KNOW!!! I think about how people still kick around sequel trilogy discourse like the movies came out yesterday and I've lived through fucking years of "Jedi Attachment Rule" fighting and I Think I'm Too Old For This Now. But I'm also an attention whore and I need people who are also in the well but Also I think hate all of you. I don't know.

I need to go back in time and strangle myself for jumping ship from Star Wars to Doctor Who thinking literally anything would be better. pick up anything else dear lord alive

[if-the-crown-fits-translate-it]

Discord pt 90

[Date: 17/03, 02.33 PM GMT - 17/03, 03.53 PM GMT]

[This conversation was going on in #arg, partly simultaneously to another in #general. The second is referenced later and was posted separately before this one.]  

[Direct continuation of pt 89]

[After Void pointed out the gdoc change, Fetch added another message:]

[Added was: “Please don’t tell them please don’t tell them please just pretend you never saw this just please.”]

Void: “nvm may be just my bad internet fucking things up ignore me”

Jack the Observer: “Oh. I see it.

Little sunflower seeds in green and yellow :)”

[Maxwell: “Where do you see that?”]

Jack the Observer: “Ask fetch, I think. He’s the one who edits the blog”

Jack the Observer: “But it’s there, if you look.”

Maxwell: “Fetch....”

fetch: “It isn't though?? I'm looking at the doc right now and there's nothing about sunflower seeds”

Jack the Observer: “I can send pictures, fetch.

If you would prefer?”

Maxwell: “i cant find anything”

fetch: “jack. after yesterday do you really wanna push me.”

Jack the Observer: “Yeah, i kind of do, actually

I could

I feel like it’s important and relevant information”

Void: “fetch knows best about what is there just ignore what i said,,,,”

fetch: “yeah. let's just ignore it.”

Maxwell: “but you all said...seeds”

donti (e): “... fetch please, this is serious.. it could endanger everyone here”

Jack the Observer: “Sunflower seeds :) leaves in yellow and green. You think if i won’t let Max hide it, I’ll let you, Fetch?”

fetch: “jack. drop it. right fucking now with that stupid fucking smile.”

Jack the Observer: “You are, in fact, just as important as Max is.

Unfortunately.

And it’s imperative that we keep all of you safe.”

Maxwell: “that...is one of the nicest things ive heard you say to us....”

fetch: “i know the doc better than anyone. i know what's there and whats not. if I say there's nothing there then there's nothing there.”

Jack the Observer: “You put it there, Fetch.”

fetch: “there's nothing there.”

Jack the Observer: “ Uh huh. /s”

jaynoblade: “he's right. there's nothing there. i just looked”

fetch: “im not ignoring anything there's nothing there.”

Jack the Observer: “Jay, what the fuck”

jaynoblade: “genuinely. i just looked. nothing”

donti (e): “hey hey hHEYyyyy chill”

Jack the Observer: “Is it gone — wait”

fetch: “check for yourself, jack”

[Context: Fetch deleted his edits about the seeds.]

Jack the Observer: “Oh, no i still have it”

fetch: “as i said. there's nothing there.”

Jack the Observer: “I still have it. And i have more pictures if you want to see them.”

donti (e): “... seeds?”

Maxwell: “thats just an image of a previous thing?”

fetch: “how do i know you aren't just editing shit”

[donti (e): “... seeds?”]

Jack the Observer: “I’m trying to have Fetch tell you first.”

kateza: “Hi good morning what’s going on?”

Mothbo: “Jack saw something no one else did”

[fetch: “how do i know you aren't just editing shit”]

Jack the Observer: “Fetch. You know I don’t lie.”

[Mothbo: “Jack saw something no one else did”]

Jack the Observer: “Haha :)”

fetch: “but you sure as hell spout a lot of bullshit.

now for the last time. There's nothing. there. Fucking drop it.

please.”

Jack the Observer: “And now instead of knight you sound like Max

Crazy”

Maxwell: “what?”

Jack the Observer: ““Oh no, i don’t want to tell them, please i just want to suffer by myself and not accept any help even though I clearly need it, no everyone else is busy, everyone else is stressed, they can’t know please don’t tell them”

That’s what you sound like

And that’s what Fetch sounds like too”

fetch: “you better watch your fuckin mouth, pal.”

Mothbo: “Jack, that's not going to help them all. I know you're hurt cos of Syd but don't take it out on them.”

Maxwell: “....”

[Mothbo: “Jack, that's not going to help them all. I know you're hurt cos of Syd but don't take it out on them.”]

Jack the Observer: “I’m not angry, I’m amused. And I’ll admit, slightly frustrated. What is up with these people and their self esteem issues.”

fetch: “what's up with you and your attachment to someone that doesn't exist anymore?”

Maxwell: “.....fuck off”

Jack the Observer: “If you don’t tell them within the hour ill see you in #img”

[fetch: “what's up with you and your attachment to someone that doesn't exist anymore?”]

Jack the Observer: “Oh, so you don’t exist when Knight is out? Shut the fuck up”

Maxwell: “i....”

Jack the Observer: “I’m glad you’re not all acting so goody goody and nice talking me anymore. This is refreshing.”

[People tell Jack and Fetch to stop arguing with each other. That just solved nothing and there’s no time to waste]

fetch: “i don't have the energy to fight anymore. there's nothing in the doc, whatever you have is edited bullshit, end of story.”

Jack the Observer: “Okay, we’re just going to ignore someone purposefully endangering their own health then. Sounds good to me /s”

[kateza: “I just woke up, I’m assuming something supposedly happened with the doc, I’m assuming the edit history was checked can we please stop fighting I don’t like this”]

Jack the Observer: “I can see something important. I’m being forced to keep imperative information to myself. You can see why I might take issue with this.”

fetch: “i thought you loved keeping information to yourself. that's what an observer does right. he just takes in information and does nothing with it. he doesn't get involved.”

Jack the Observer: “This is different.”

fetch: “of course it is.

just drop it.”

donti (e): “ah.”

Jack the Observer: “Yeah it fucking is different, Fetch. We fucking need you on this team. We’re meant to just ignore when you’re hurting? We’re meant to ignore when you’re endangering yourself?”

fetch: “i said. drop it.”

Jack the Observer: “Holy fucking shit not everything is about Syd”

Jack the Observer: “Maybe this is just about you”

fetch: “well maybe I don't want to be paid attention to. i'm not a fucking zoo exhibit. just leave me the fuck alone.”

Jack the Observer: “I don’t know how many times? I have to say this? But if I saw you as nothing more than a “zoo exhibit” i literally wouldn’t care about this at all”

Void: “fetch, people will learn one way or another. please at least take the chance to tell them yourself?”

Jack the Observer: “Clock is ticking”

fetch: “there's nothing to tell. im fucking fine.”

Jack the Observer: “There you go, sounding like Max again”

kateza: “wait, ok, so now fetch supposedly has the buds? Is that’s what’s going on? No one is catchinng me up everyone’s just arguing”

Jack the Observer: ““I’m fine I’m fine” you’re clearly not.”

[kateza: “wait, ok, so now fetch supposedly has the buds? Is that’s what’s going on? No one is catchinng me up everyone’s just arguing”]

Jack the Observer: “I can see something. Fetch isn’t letting me tell anyone.”

fetch: “well MAYBE I DONT WANT YOUR FUCKING HELP.”

donti (e): “HEEEEY HEY

jacks doing what he can”

fetch: “YOU EVER THINK ABOUT THAT? YOU CANT FUCKING HELP ME.”

Jack the Observer: “...”

fetch: “QUIT TRYING.”

Jack the Observer: “...”

Jack the Observer: “...

...

that was a bit too loud for me, actually. Ill be in #img in fifty minutes.”

Jack the Observer: “good luck.”

fetch: “fine. i need a nap anyway.”

Maxwell: “......”

[People talk about how important it is to share information, especially with how the situation currently is, and that they’d have to work together if they were ever going to resolve anything about this problem. They then note that if this in-fighting continues, more and more people might be dragged into Crown’s court. But then…]

jaynoblade: “okay, this is somewhat off topic, but.... do we even really know who crown is? because we thought he was ranboo in enderwalk, but then in that one ask he implied that he isn’t”

Maxwell: “hes something else then....”

Maxwell: “uh small problem”

donti (e): “prince read the backlog.”

[This refers to the conversation that had been simultaneously going on in #general2.]

A random Spark: “I know...which means Prince probably now knows the deal with the three court members and why they're gone”

kateza: “which means we'll be having another mind wipe probably :/”

LLyr: “D:”

Maxwell: “OH NO OH NO OH NO”

Maxwell: “i...”

donti (e): “if we had explained it fae would be wiped and then we'd be in trouble.”

Maxwell: “can we tell faem? fae already know....”

Maxwell: “he only brought up me and fetch....should we tell him about marcus?”

donti (e): “... maybe?”

A random Spark: “It's a good idea to.”

LLyr: “if the dam has already broken, i dont see a reason to keep it hidden. maybe ask marcus what he thinks about it?”

Maxwell: “i wanna say his name...”

donti (e): “you already namedropped him,

go for it

he might as well get the facts.”

kateza: “i don't like this

i don't like where this is going”

Maxwell: “jack what did you put in images”

Jack the Observer: “What i promised i would.”

donti (e): “fetches entry.”

Maxwell: “hes..oh god”

Maxwell: “i messed up i messed up i messed up--”

kateza: “no no no

you tried to help max. you did what you thought was right and even if it didn't have the outcome you want you tried to do what was right and that's good of you”

Maxwell: “i made it worse no no no no”

Jack the Observer: “You calm down too.

Panicking isn’t going to help prince.

It’s fine. Let faem remember.”

[fics-of-my-mind]

Trust - Chapter III.

Where are you now?

home

LA

Isn't it like 4 AM there?

yeah...

Are you OK?

just stressed a bit I guess

You said you needed to vent?

I did

can I call you?

Warnings: mature content, BDSM content Pairing: Nick Jonas / Other Female Character This fanfiction can also be found on Wattpad by fnntth

I don’t own Nick Jonas or any other recognizable characters. This fanfiction is completely fictional, its only purpose is entertainment.

Chapter III. - It’s four AM and I think I might lose it

Nick’s texts are bold

Milla’s texts are italic

The whole 'let's be venting buddies' idea seemed nice, up until the point when ten minutes later I realized, he didn't give me his number. I felt disappointed and a little bit mad at myself. Now I had no real proof that my mind wasn't playing wicked games with me and I, in fact spent the night running around in Barcelona with Nick Jonas himself.

I didn't tell the girls where I've been when Vanda opened the door with her tired eyes at 6:23 in the morning, not wanting to seem crazy. They've both known about my fangirling habits, but there was no point of telling them something that even I wasn't sure really happened. I just fell into my bed and slept until noon.

After returning home, I couldn't find my place. I went back to work, met up with friends, went shopping and even went for lunch with my family, but something was missing. It felt stupid – missing something that I've only had for like seven hours tops.

I tried doing something useful, that could actually have a good effect on my non-existent love life, so I downloaded Tinder. Then, after a day I deleted it. Honestly, I was more than fed up with our generation's dating culture. I couldn't embarrass myself to meet up with complete strangers and have sex – I kind of envied the people who could do it. I guess, it wasn't coded into me.

I was almost 25 years old, and I've never had a proper boyfriend. I blamed the series I watched growing up for my high expectations in men. But really, was it too much to ask to be taken out for a drink or dinner before having a one night stand? I would've had no problem with that, or at least I don't think so. But when a guy messages you on Tinder and his second sentence to you is 'wanna have sex', it kind of just kills the mood for me.

I've watched some of the videos I made during the concert, and every time I could feel my stomach clench. Even if we take my night with Nick out of the equation, it was still one of the best nights of my live, and definitely one of my best concerts. It was my teenage dream come true to watch them perform.

It took me two weeks to get back to normal. By then, my mind was mostly focused on my friends, my job, my colleagues, whom I adored and not on the lack of reaching out from Nick. I kind of let it go – I only thought about him on sleepless nights. I had much more on my mind, with the coronavirus setting its foot in Hungary, and Amalia being in quarantine for it.

In early March, they closed our office and we were forced to work from home, which I handled pretty badly. I loved being home and I loved being alone, appreciating the time with myself. But normally, I had people around me during the day, I was going somewhere, not just sitting from the couch to the dining table, then back to the couch.

At least I had my dog, Milo with me to help me get through the quarantine period. My daily routine consisted of walking him three times and going to the grocery store every few days. That's all, otherwise I was completely alone. I hated it, and I was feeling so bad, that I've had at least one mental breakdown a day.

That's when it happened. In the middle of a Wednesday, just as I was scrolling through my emails on the company laptop, my phone went off.

so, I kind of need to vent...

It was all the message said, yet I knew who it was from. My stomach clenched instantly, and I could feel my heart beating against my chest really hard. Here it was, my proof that I wasn't just hallucinating that night. I took my phone into my hands and typed my reply.

Well, hello to you too, Mr

hi. :)

Hi :) :)

sorry I've been MIA

just needed to get back to the states

do a few interviews

I smiled softly. I had no idea why he felt the need to apologize. He was busy, he was important, he was famous. I knew well that he had responsibilities. He was also married, so he also had a wife to take care of.

It's OK.

Where are you now?

home

LA

Isn't it like 4 AM there?

yeah...

Are you OK?

just stressed a bit I guess

You said you needed to vent?

I did

can I call you?

I quickly checked my Outlook calendar. Nothing else was in it for the rest of the day, so as long as my coworkers didn't want to chit chat on a Teams call, I was okay to talk to Nick. More than okay, in fact, I wanted to hear his voice.

Yes.

It didn't take more than a few seconds for my phone to ring, startling me, even though I've expected the call. My hand was shaking as I reached to my iPhone, and even though it was a reaction of a twelve-year-old fangirl, I couldn't calm myself.

'Hey.'

'Hey you,' I heard his deep voice, and suddenly all my nerves were gone. He once again had the same effect on me, as back in Barcelona, instantly calming me. I couldn't quite place this.

'So, what's up?' I asked, clearing my troath.

'Are you at work?' he asked, probably checking to see if anyone could hear me.

'Yes and no,' I said. 'Since Monday, we are forced to work from home. Sooo... I'm home.'

'Do you live alone?' It was kind of ridiculous. We've barely known each other (except for the fact that I did knew a lot about him), and the fact that he had no idea about my living situation just confirmed this. We still weren't any more than strangers, yet he was calling me from the other side of the world.

'I do. Well, I live with my dog,' I shrugged, even though he couldn't see it. 'Where are you? And what are you doing up at 4 in the morning?'

'I'm home. In the music studio.' So the walls were soundproof. Smart, if you don't want anyone to hear you talking on the phone. For example, your wife. 'Couldn't sleep.'

'Why?' I asked.

'There's just a lot on my mind, I guess,' he answered, his voice sounding really tired. I was concerned for him.

'Things like...?' I tried asking him again. There was a reason he's called me. There were things he needed to talk about and I quite enjoyed hearing him talk. His voice calmed me, and I felt much closer to him than just some fan.

'We probably have to cancel our Vegas residency due to COVID.'

'That's understandable. You shouldn't feel bad about it. You can't really control it.'

'I know,' he said, staying quiet for a few seconds. I waited for him to talk again. 'Just don't like to disappoint anyone, I guess.'

'You aren't doing this, Nick,' I said softly. 'The virus is. Fans will understand. You will make it up to them."

'Yeah, I guess you're right.'

'What else is on your mind?' There was a long pause before he spoke again.

'Have you heard Demi's new song?'

'I have,' I nodded to myself. It was quite fresh, just a few days old. 'You and her used to be friends, right?'

'She was my best friend,' he corrected. I searched my memories, I did know that they went on tour together and did Carpool Karaoke and other things together. I had no idea when that ended and why. I knew about Demi's OD, but nothing else.

The fangirl in me, who wanted to know everything desperately wanted to ask him about what happened. The person in me that was supposed to be his 'vent buddy', knew that this probably wasn't the right time to ask the questions. Luckily, this side was saner.

'But she isn't anymore,' I declared the obvious. 'And you are hurt by her video clip, where she just walks by you, right?' I asked, trying to decipher how he was feeling at the moment.

'It's not like I don't deserve it,' he said quietly. I didn't really know what to say.

'It is okay for something to hurt, even if you deserve it, you know.'

'Thank you,' he said even quieter. 'I think I needed to hear that.'

'Is there anything else that's bothering you?'

I could almost see him bite his bottom lip before answering.

'No, nothing really.' I knew he lied, but didn't press it. 'I just can't really talk with anyone else about Demi. Well, probably except Joe, but he's home with Sophie, so I didn't want to nag him.'

'Okay,' I nodded. This was weird, talking so naturally about things with him. Talking about his life, about people in his life... It was just crazy.

'How are you doing?' he asked, sounding genuinely interested in the answer.

'Fine, I guess.' I was doing just fine – minus the mental breakdowns, and the fear of this whole situation.

'Now tell me the truth,' he commanded, and my breath caught up in my throat. I wasn't surprised that he noticed my lie, I noticed his too. I was shocked that he did in fact call me out on it, in a very commanding tone. Like he expected me to tell him how I was really feeling.

'Why do you think I'm lying?' I asked, raising my eyebrows.

'You are, aren't you?' he asked. 'This venting thing can only work if we both trust each other with our problems. This has to be a two-sided thing.'

I did get where he was coming from. He had a lot to lose with trusting in me, but he did it anyway. Me telling him about my own problems meant that I also trusted him, that I also put my secrets and my fears into his hands. He wanted to be assured that he wasn't making a fatal mistake by opening up to me. Not that I had any intention of selling him out, but I understood that we were practically strangers to each other.

'I'm worried,' I said finally.

'About what?'

'This virus. About my family falling ill. About losing my job.'

'Why would you lose your job?' he asked, and it wasn't just a rhetorical question, he really did want to know about my concerns.

'I was just hired, you know. Just in the beginning of last month. Before that, I was an intern for a year, and I've worked my ass off to get a permanent position. But if thanks to the virus, the financial crisis hits and they start to fire people... I'm just worried that last one in means first one out,' I explained.

'Did your boss give you a reason to worry?' he asked.

'Not really. My boss is amazing. Really, she's more of a friend than a boss.'

'So if you two have a great relationship, and she managed to make you permanent part of her team, don't you think that she'll do everything in order to keep you?'

I stayed quiet for a minute.

'I don't like it when you are being reasonable,' I said jokingly.

'Sorry,' he chuckled. 'But really, why worry before you actually have the problem?'

'I guess, I just worry a lot about non-existent things,' I shrugged. 'It's always better to be prepared for everything.'

'Hmm, is it?' he asked, clearly amused about the things in my head. 'What else is bugging you?'

'I'm lonely,' I said quietly. I hated to admit this, because I was the person that always told everyone that I was doing more than okay on my own, and I didn't need a man to make me feel whole. Now, as I was alone in the apartment all the time, I started to realize that having some company would've been nice.

'What about your friends? Where are they?' he asked.

'Most of them went home to their families when the state of emergency hit.'

'Why don't you go home to your family then?'

'I'm kind of afraid to infect them. I mean, I'm the one living in the big city. If anyone caught the virus without noticing, it would be me. And I wouldn't feel comfortable knowing that I may give it to them,' I explained.

Nick stayed quiet for a while. My inhibitions of talking to him about my life were long gone. It kind of felt nice to say the words out loud, to share with someone that I was in fact, feeling lonely. Even if that someone was on the other side of the world.

'You don't have a significant other?' he asked eventually, as if it wasn't clear already.

'No, I don't have a boyfriend.'

'Why?' Came the next question. I bit my lip and contemplated telling him the great answer on my mind, that I was thinking for years now.

'I'm just not the type of girl that guys fall in love with.'

'You do know that's bullshit, right?' he replied, sounding irritated.

'No, Nick, really. I never had a real boyfriend, only guys that I've hooked up with, or that led me on to believe that here was something more going on, when there wasn't,' I said, and even though I didn't feel perfectly comfortable talking about my love life, or the lack of it, somehow I couldn't stop myself from speaking. 'And I got tired of that a while ago. It's still better to be alone than not being appreciated and having to make compromises.'

'What do you want from a guy? When is he worth the compromises?' he asked, and I could hear the curiosity in his voice.

'Quite honestly, if he makes an effort, he's probably worth it.'

'An effort like a big romantic gesture?'

'No,' I chuckled. 'I don't really like cheesy things. If he brings me flowers or takes me out for dinner, it's more than enough. But it's not like any of those things happened.'

'C'mon, you must've gotten flowers from guys. They must've taken you out to eat.'

'I did get flowers from guys. Just not flowers that were of any romantic origin. I got flowers for my birthday or international women's day, but that's about it. And as for dates... Nobody really ever took me out for dinner or lunch or whatever.'

'How?' he asked, sounding doubtful.

'Well, I must repulse all the men,' I laughed bitterly. Sometimes I did believe in that.

'Don't be stupid,' he said quietly.

'I'm not. I mean... Here I am, almost at 25, never been in love, never even been on a proper date. And honestly, I have no idea why it never happened, but nobody has ever asked me out,' I shrugged to myself. 'There must be something seriously wrong with me.'

Even though I tried to play it cool, these concerns were real for me. I thought about it a lot, how it has never happened. Maybe I expected too much. Maybe I wasn't pretty enough. Maybe it was written on my forehead that nobody should ever date me.

'There is nothing wrong with you, trust me,' Nick said, and there was something in his voice.

'I don't want you to feel sorry for me.'

'I don't, Milla, I just can't quite comprehend how you've never had a boyfriend,' he explained. 'You're beautiful, smart, hard-working. You care about people. You're witty and funny, and I've only talked to you twice in my life and I already know this.'

'C'mon, Nick,' I could feel myself blush. 'You're just saying those things to make me feel better.'

'I'm really not. I just don't like that you think so low about yourself, like you think something is wrong with you.'

'But what if there is?' I asked, opening up about one of my biggest concerns. 'What if I expect more than I deserve?'

'Trust me, wanting to get flowers and being taken out on a date, aren't that huge, earth-shattering things.'

'Well, I'm still alone, aren't I? Maybe I scare people.'

'Or maybe,' he started about a deep sigh. 'People around you don't deserve you and they know it.'

I stayed quiet for a bit, biting my lip again. After some time I sighed, not finding the energy to fight with him about this anymore.

'Damn you for always knowing what to say.'

[theycalledmecrazy]

It's strange to say, but I'm one of the last people to shop in the wee hours of the morning at a Walmart. I finished my shopping and approached the cash register right around midnight. The cashier had just clocked in and had just been told that was her last night working the late shift as a cashier. Starting tomorrow, all the Walmarts across the nation will close at 11 PM. Third shifters like my cashier will be in charge of cleaning and sanitizing a store and assisting in restocking for the next day.

It's a strange thing to think about. Our lives are so convenience based. Anytime day or night, if you need something, there was probably a store within a reasonable driving distance that you could go to and find what you need, barring any specialty necessities. 

I wonder to myself if this move won't be slightly counterproductive to containing the virus. As it stands now, shoppers are spread out in the major big box stores over a 24-hour period. Now, with many stores taking 8 or so hours off in the middle of the night, shoppers will only be able to access the store within a 16 to 17 hour timeframe, naturally leading to a higher concentration of people during those times.

It's been a week of interesting firsts. Just the other day, Mike Dewine, governor of Ohio made the announcement that Ohio schools would be closed for 3 weeks. For the first time in history, every Disney park on Earth is closed at the same time. And for the first time in my knowledge, my job has authorized people who don't normally work from home to do so.  

I digress from my point. First, I suppose some backstory will be due. This is being written on the Ides of March in the year 2020. I am in Columbus, Ohio, United States. I am 37 years old. The country, state, and city have all declared states of emergency in the wake of the spread of the Covid-19 virus pandemic. As I dictate this to my phone, I'm driving home from Sidney Ohio, having just completed a route delivering medicine to nursing homes. I work two jobs.

I began researching this disease and the spread of it well before it hit American shores. I've been watching the John Hopkins 'heat map' since the second week of January, a time when the only mention of coronavirus you heard was your coworker telling a joke involving it going best with lyme disease. I've learned about its capability of spread in an urban populace, and I watched the drone footage of the "ghost city" of Wuhan several weeks ago, long before it went viral (ha!) via Facebook. A booming urban metropolis reduced to how London looked in 28 Days Later. I learned about the term 'Community Spread' before it was ever uttered on American live feeds. My productivity at work, my attention to friends, my normal functioning bottomed out as I became hyperfocused on the menace that I begged the universe in vain to keep overseas. I should have known, and should have been preparing. But, as humans are prone to be, I was a product of my environment. That culture of convenience and procrastination. But now there's no more convenience and no more procrastination.

I now know that things are going to get worse. These kind of rushes on product like we've been seeing is just the beginning. We are going to face days of true scarcity. I fear that even with my recent stockpiling, that my "preparedness" has come too late. I remember my father teaching me how to stockpile and prep for days when there would be scarcity, and I've failed to do so effectively. Over the last week or so, I've done my best with the small amount of resources I have. As things stand now, my shelves are stocked. I know how to ration in emergency situations, and although it will suck, I know that I can ration much smaller amounts because I have a lot of fat on my body that my body will live off of for extended periods of time. I always joked that being overweight was just a surplus Y2K survival kit. Turns out, that's truer than I'd like it to be. I thought keto was my path to losing weight. Turns out the coming days will be much more effective. 

The scenarios that we had always gone over in are prepping drills involved an attack on the United States or some uprising within. All that boogaloo horseshit you hear, or heard. Ways to make sure that your food was secure from people that might be looking for it. Making sure that you had weapons to defend yourself and those in your care. Safeguards against basic things like frostbite or heat exhaustion. Basic first aid. Foraging. Boy Scout shit. The drills never included anything like Covid-19. At first we were told that the illness was little worse than a common cold, just a little easier to spread the people. Now, we are getting reports that it creates a fibrosis in the lungs, and even if you recover from your bout of the illness, you can be left with up to 20% reduced lung capacity. People in Hong Kong are now reporting that healthy adults that have recovered from the disease now get winded by a brisk walk. In Japan, a recovered patient has tested positive for the disease again, making the medical community wonder about the antibodies that the bodies of recovered SHOULD be producing. Dad and I never prepared for anything like that. I think the best hope in the situation that we prepared for would be that any human we come in contact with will have also been similarly reduced in  capacity, since this disease looks to be one that will spread to a majority of the populace. I'm glad that part of preparedness is adaptability, but I'm still sitting here rambling.  

I've tried to focus on purpose in the last several days. I keep telling myself that it's important to stay positive and to still do the things that I love doing. Indeed, I still play cards with my roommate and my gaming group of friends, all aware that we may wind up having to quarantine once 'things get bad'. I watch people that I love still doing the things that they love, seemingly unaware of the world that's collapsing around us. What I like to go see a movie? Would I like to go to the mall? Would I like to go see a show in a theater? Absolutely. But while many do not notice, we don't live in that world anymore. Well, some still do. They'll live in that world until the very last moment they can - which is why I had to live in this new one so soon. Even now, when it's becoming apparent that the world as we knew it is over, social media is alight with blissful ignorance and vapid resistance to the world we find ourselves in. 

When the first cases were reported in the state, it was on a day I found myself financially unstable. I couldn't have prepared for anything that day if I'd wanted to - I had victoriously paid off two large pieces of debt and was done with an 'only has money' week until next payday, and even the next paycheck had obligations. Instead of writing a plan, I wrote letters to my loved ones with advice for the upcoming hard times, and an apology for leaving them(before you all sound the alarm, that's not what this is, and that feeling has long since passed). Reading the letters to myself, I realized the cowardice behind the words, and despised myself for a few days after deleting them. Though, admittedly, even now as I watch the heat map and watch the numbers rolling in, I somewhat long for cowardice, but steel myself and square my shoulders for the task ahead. 

Now this.

Some friends have asked me to promise to get their loved ones to them if I'm closer to them than they are, or even to keep them with me and keep them safe. For all my misanthropy, I guess people still see me as some kind of fringe guardian in many respects. I suppose it's because they know I'd die before letting someone I care about die. I wonder if it makes me exploitable, or if maybe that's just my purpose. It makes a lot of things make a lot of sense. Sometimes in the horror movie of life, you're the one that distracts the monster so the others can get away. I have no illusions of being the hero, but I won't turn down the opportunity if it happens. Ugh, this paragraph was self serving as hell, but I'm not deleting anything at this point. Watch me ramble. Maybe there's something valuable in it. 

That time is a bit off, but I know that I'm going to see loved ones die in this, and I know that my friends in my time that read this will think I'm being overdramatic(I'm sure some of them haven't even made it this far and have either called me or forwarded this to authorities - both unnecessary, I assure you). I know that I may not survive what's coming. So I think the best thing I can do is do what I've always done. Write. I will write and hope that my words will create a culture among those that read my words in a distant future. My goal is to make you, the reader, not make the same mistakes we made, the mistakes I made, the mistakes anyone made. I won't have an editor, most likely, so forgive my rambled mess of a memoir. Maybe someone in the future will edit and make sense of it all. 

I hope that this is all just me ranting and raving about something absurd and in the future this will embarrass me and we'll all laugh about it. If you're in the future and reading this, however, that means that scenario isn't what happened. I hope things are better for you. I hope that I'm talked about with good words. I hope some of my loved ones are the ones who saved these words and shared them with the world. It would be really great if it was me, but I'd probably edit out this whole paragraph, so probably not. That's ok. Either way, it's now 2:30am and I must unload groceries and get them shelved. Tomorrow is another day, and I'm going to play some video games while I can like the old millennial I am to escape for a couple hours before my nerves finally let me sleep. See? Rambling run-on sentences. You'd never guess I was an English major. Ms. Somers would be so disappointed (lol). I told my friends in February that we'd be ordered to stay at home soon. They called me crazy.

I didn't realize until just this moment that if anyone ever reads this aside from those I send it to in order to preserve it, I'll essentially have been writing my own eulogy. That's fine. I'll take that.

I decided to create this Tumblr on March 30, 2020. In the two weeks since writing this prologue, things have progressively gotten worse. I will write more tomorrow.

[fanficcollection]

Tumblr - Girl (Part 8)

Tumblr – Girl (series) Part 1 Masterlist

Pairing: Misha Collins x reader Summary: answer time Word Count: 2.148 Warnings: it’s a quite smooth one, parts of a panic attack, mental illness, maybe parts of implied rape

Notes: it’s been some time, but here it is, part 8! Woho.. it’s a quite smooth one, but I hope you like it in spite of that.

As always loads of love and thanks to my precious beta @sinceriouslyamellpadalecki you are truly wonderful! Thanks so much!

Enough talk, enjoy Part 8. :)

Mishas POV

With some new energy the text gave me I mastered the rest of the convention, the panels flew by and soon it was time for the closing ceremony and with the knowledge of Y/N being okay I could enjoy the whole day. I had a smile tugged on my face and when the whole convention sang “Carry on my wayward son” together I got goose bumps. From time to time I saw Jensen looking at me, and smiling, sometimes I met his gaze and he seemed truly content with the situation.

After the convention ended, I went to my room, there were two more hours left before our drivers picked you up for the flight back to Vancouver. I first packed all my things to my carry-on bag, I never brought much stuff with me to a convention weekend, then I lied down on the bed, took my phone out to make some notes on my answer, which I wanted to do later, but then I saw there were a few messages from the cast:

 Rob (5 min ago): Hey buddies, what about some farewell-drinks? In 10min in the Lobby? Dick&Rob

��Jared (3 min ago): Mish, are you joining for some drinks?

 Jensen (2 min ago): Are you in your room? I’m on my way to you before good-bye drinks. :)

After reading that text I heard a knock, probably Jensen. I quickly jumped up and went to the door to open it. When I saw the familiar face I let him immediately in the room. “Are you joining for the goodbye drinks?” he asked and the first time in a few weeks I really thought about it and nodded.  “I think it’s not a bad idea.” I said and smiled. Jensen smiled as well. “Good to see you this happy, bro” he said and patted my shoulder. “Have you answered her yet?”  he asked. “No, I guess it will take some quiet time to find the right words, I don’t want to put pressure on her and I don’t want to send just a ‘quick text’.” I took my phone from the nightstand and went to the door “Ready to go?” I asked looking at Jensen. He nodded slowly and left my room before me so I could lock it behind me.

 Later that day, back at my place in Vancouver I took my laptop, it was an important text and writing it was a lot easier on the computer, there was more space and it was easier to organize the scraps of words I had in my mind at the moment. First I put my earplugs in and looked up a inspiring playlist then I opened tumblr and started typing slowly, I often typed and deleted it, it took me a while to find the right words, but then it started to fit together.

“Dear Y/N,

I hope you got all my texts, every single one, I as well hope you saw what they meant, they mean that I’m there even if you are not, I don’t stop being there, I’m here when you need it, when you are ready. It’s sad to hear that the demons are still chasing you, but I was so happy to read that you are still fighting them, that’s a quality that tells a lot about you.

And as I told you, unless you want me to stop writing, I’m here, there is nothing to forgive, nothing for you to feel bad about and once again, because no one could ever hear it too often, you are important! To me, to other people out there, I care, I’m here when you need someone to talk.

Y/N, what you said about the characters and the actors really got into my mind. You are such a strong girl and I think I got something that would maybe help you to keep up your fight. Some time ago I got myself some Con-Tickets for Vancouver Con, but sadly I can’t attend the con due to job issues, so I have to find someone to give my tickets to. Would you like to attend the con? I know, it’s probably hours of flying from your home town, but I would give you the tickets for free. Please, do me a favour and visit the guys, meet them, see it as a reward for your brave fight.

I’m looking forward to hear from you!

Love,

Dmitri “

I read the mail again and again, but then I decided to just go for it and sent it. Hopefully she would accept the offer to meet us in Vancouver; it was a possibility to get to know her without revealing that I lied to her about my real identity. Maybe I could talk about it to her in person; at least I could try to avoid a misunderstanding by talking from face to face.

 Your POV

While reading all the messages you fell asleep, you were deadly tired even though you slept in in the morning. In your sleep you started crying, you dreamt crazy things about Jacob, you could almost feel his fingers on your skin and you started shivering by that thought. The memories of yesterday came up, you felt like you saw the scenes from some outside: you saw when he slowly pressed his lips on yours, when you first rejected it, because it didn’t feel right, your stomach turned by this scene, then you allowed it and even leaned into the kiss, you could nearly feel his lips, smell his scent.  

Then all of a sudden there was an annoying noise, you didn’t know where it came from but you couldn’t stop it. When you woke up you recognized what the noise was, your phone, an awkward standard ringtone. You first thought it was just an alarm you set to not oversleep, but as it kept ringing you noticed someone was calling you. “What?” you answered the phone without looking who was calling. “Hey darling” the voice on the other end said “are you alright? You sound sleepy, have you slept until now?” he asked, it was Jacob. “I’m okay. Just a headache and very tired.” You said shortly. “And no, I was up for a few hours, but then I laid down again, because of my head.” There was a bit of a lie in it, your head was okay, but you didn’t want to tell him that you texted Dmitri and you of course didn’t want him to know you cried the whole afternoon about Dmitri’s messages.

 “So can I still come over tonight?” he asked politely “I can bring some food, maybe pizza or Chinese?”  you thought about a good answer, he already told you in the morning that he would stop by for dinner, but somehow you needed some alone-time, but you were to slow. “You know what-“ he said, “I’m coming at about eight, I’m so sorry I can’t be there earlier. Is pizza ok with you?” You didn’t know what to say, you didn’t want to lose him, you’ve already lost Dmitri because of your shitty behaviour, so you just accepted and ended the call.

You decided to put on some comfortable clothes and go for a walk to clear your mind, university things floated round your head, there was not much time left this semester, you thought about getting a summer job, maybe travelling a bit. When you got into a nearby park you sat down for a moment, your mind wandered, you thought about everything and anything, you didn’t want to go back, everything seemed peaceful here. Taking your  phone out you scrolled through your Facebook feed; you were not one of the persons who posted every little thing, you were more the observer; you looked at profile pictures of your former classmates, many of them were in a relationship according to their profile. They seemed happy, but on the other hand, you as well didn’t share your down times, all the information on this page were just illusions of happy lives.

You closed Facebook, it made you angry to see all their lies. Instead you opened up Tumblr, Tumblr was different. A smile sneaked on your face when you thought of that convention, where Misha was confronted with Tumblr and trying to understand it; he had compared it to Facebook and every single one reacted not amused.  While your blog was loading a small sign popped up to show you that you had a new message in your inbox, it was about an hour old. Why didn’t you see that one earlier? Maybe tumblr was fucking around again. Then it dawned to you, the notifications on your phone were still turned off. Whatever, there were more important things right now! With shivering fingers you entered your inbox, it was from Dmitri, your heart sank, your stomach turned and your vision blurred, you knew it was his last message, it had to be, you couldn’t imagine he want to keep your friendship up after everything that happened.

You had to take a few deep breaths to calm down; it wasn’t easy to keep your eyes focussed on the lines when you finally managed to open the text. For a short moment you stopped, did you really want to read it, after that message you had most likely lost the human being you trusted. But you had to know if he at least forgave you. Yeah, you had to read it. So you started to concentrate again, tears silently rolling down your cheeks, you slowly read one word after the other you didn’t catch the meaning at first.

Unknowingly you looked out for some words of reject, some kind of insult, some complaining, but there was… nothing. Nothing like that, no hate. Like earlier in your friendship. There were just nice words, again. Why couldn’t he be human once, he always was so calm, so friendly, so caring. “How did I deserve him?” you mumbled. Then you started again, reading the text, processing it.

The next moment you got interrupted, your phone was ringing, again. You saw Jacob’s name flash on the display and you waited a moment before answering “Hey. What’s up?” you asked. Your mood was a lot better than before, to know you haven’t lost Dmitri lifted you up and there couldn’t go anything wrong today. “I’m right in front your door and obviously you aren’t at home.” Jacob said “I thought we said 8 o’clock?” You quickly checked the time, it was 5 minutes after eight. “I’m so sorry, I’ll be home in about 5 to 10 minutes. I completely forgot the time.” He said something you didn’t understand, but then his voice got softer “Okay babe, just hurry up a bit, the pizza is getting cold.” He said nicely and you promised to be there as soon as possible. Then you ended the call, got up and went back to your place, you were happy, nothing could break your mood tonight.

 When you arrived Jacob smiled friendly and gave you a hug with his free hand and pulled you in into a kiss, it didn’t feel that bad as you remembered it from yesterday. You kissed back lightly and unlocked the door. “Come in.” you invited him and closed the door behind him. “How was your day, darling?” he asked you while he put the pizza on a counter on the kitchen. “It started a bit nasty with the headache and so on, but then it turned out quite okay. I made it a lazy day, was quite cool. What about your day?” you asked back politely. “Was okay I guess, there wasn’t much to do at the hospital, so it got a bit boring, but I looked forward to this the whole day.” He answered and once again pulled you into a kiss. He gently stroke your neck with one hand and placed the other one on your back. The touch felt good and you leaned in it, you felt his lips curl up to a smile during the kiss and you had to smile as well. Then all of a sudden he pulled away and you silently whined. “The pizza is getting cold.” He told you with a smirk on his face and you nodded. “What about a nice movie and pizza on the couch?” he suggested and you quickly nodded. You let him choose the movie and he went with a romantic drama, then you got some drinks, non-alcoholic today and sat down next to him.

After you were finished with eating you put the carton on the floor and Jacob slipped a bit closer to you. You leaned your head against his shoulder and felt his hands caress your upper arm. It felt nice, maybe you were just too drunk yesterday to realize it, maybe you totally overreacted.

Part 9

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11 questions...

I was tagged by @pureren @zaevran @glaspaladin @z-ayauitl and @kcgane ty so much !!! ♥

RULES: 1. Always post the rules 2. Answer the questions given by the person who tagged you 3. Write 11 questions of your own 4. Tag 11 people

my questions…

1. what’s the worst piece of clothing you own?

2. what’s the coolest piece of uh fashion that is so cool you can’t even wear to go out? lol

3.- what book have you read that you feel it has been the worst?

4.- What’s the healthiest meal you actually like?

5.- do you love keith kogane? (or vld keith lmfao what u prefer to use)

6.- something paranormal ever happened to you? if yea, what?

7.- do you get jealous easily? with who? (friends, popular ppl, talented ppl, the s/m)

8.- what’s the cutest thing you own?

9.- what are your favorite crisps?

10.- do you have a favourite drink?

11.- can you tell im hungry? what hobby you wish you liked or wish you did?

i tag: @kukinta​ @kittyr0se​ @heirith​ @liesfromsatansbuttcheeks​ @sheith-love-always​ @acequeenm​ @blessedkeith​ @lukaspatel​ @ke1th​ @ace-pidge​ @keith8​ but only if you want to!

TESSA’SS AND!! TAMI’S QUESTIONS1!!!

1.  Do you connect with people easily?

mmm, I don’t becos im a very quiet person and can be w u w/o talking at all and I get overwhelmed by convos I don’t care about also it’s kinda hard to win my trust and also interest lol. I’m nice tho, i mite not be enjoying myself but i’ll forev b nice w u.  

2. Did something good happen to you this week?

uH yeah, i’m doing things to improve my health, i did my uni exam, im frEE, i finally don’t have to go to rEliGIoUs classes aNYMORE and UH,,, i got a diet to win weight and its cool i get to eat ESQUITE LMFAO. i will see my bffs in friday and i have browney mix there i should bake but im lazy

3. What’s the personality trait that annoys you most in other people?

When people pretend to like something just 2 b friends w someone or ME, do you know we can be total dif and maybe still b friends if u cOOL. Ass kissers, hypocrisy, LIES LOL. I don’t like fake ppl at all.

4. If you could participate in any existing tv reality show, which one would you choose?

The ones where they change ur style and buy clothes for u 2 love urself and do ur hair and make up and buy u xpensive undies. I loved that crap when i was in secondary school lmao

5. What’s something you’re insecure about?

That I can’t be in one place without wanting tofuckin run, the fact that i can’t eat w ppl at all, that i have to go to the fucken gYM

6. What’s your favourite way to hang out with friends?

:’)) well,,, i go to my bff’s house or they come. If im fine then walk around my neighborhood cus it’s nice ahaha anxiety am i rite. oKAY, even if i get anxiety i like ice skating, or roller skating, i have a lot of fun. My friend want us to go to this pixies concert and im like :(( boo i love u

7. What’s your favourite fic trope?

lol idk,,,,, pining? mutual pining? no pining and they getting to know therngs im melttin sTOP idk…… it depends on whAT shIP. I just know i’ll read any fake dating of my otp. idk idk duuuude i legit don kno. It’s not a trope but i love crunchy feelings, showefjsid fksjnj its hard to talk about this im sOrry

8. What’s the most embarrassing thing you’ve liked in the past?

hahahahahaha my crush

9. What do you consider to be the best period of your life?

When I was 14. I went to parties more than i go to them now lol, i drank and smokkd w who where my best friends back theN i know it’s whack. we used to go to roller skate? all the damn time and did sleepovers and everything was funny, we practically lived together and my friend that was 16 drove us to places lmao,, everything was so good. but like, dont imagine me too wild i only smokd like 5 cigs in my life and hookah and we even broke one.

10. What do you consider to be the worst period of your life?

mpghgg, when i turned 15,,, in the middle of it everythin went to shit to the actual date. But im trying to change that

11. How did you meet your best friend?

I met her,,,, 11 years ago. Look, I usually have best friends in pack. I have 3 bffs at the moment, one of them sat next to me in 2nd year of primary school. IDK how i got to actually know my absolute bff tho but we did a lot of weird shit. we also met in the same classroom and she was my bff back then. The third one was also a frind but not so much during those years. Later i changed of classrooms and shit and bonded more when I was 14 w 6 friends and those r i did crazy shit w but we got separated and stopped talkin and they invited me to the club a week before my uni exam but i was high on meds and sick af. and never replied also going to meet em again at the club makes me nervous af tbH…. I have had a lot of super close friends in my life wTf. In my new school i have also 7 friends that r super close.And we’re also a pack of bffs. I actually had a hard time to use the word bestfriend lol, not bc of me havin a lot or anythin, i was just emo i guess

BEX’S QUESTIONS YOo

1. What’s the strangest nickname you’ve ever been given?

:))))))))))))))))))))))))) gabhole, gabaloney, TETI THAT SOUNDS LIKE TITTY. now ft Aztec secret 

2. Do you like to gossip?

UMMMMMM,, i dont like to listen to another ppl judging someone, I hate it and i normally tell them to stop. it depends i guess

3. Are you afraid of the dark? um,,, no but i dont like it lol

4.Have you ever been stung by a bee?

no, but i steppeddd on one. I also was pickin a tree and till this day i dont knoW wTF it was but i had something big in my middle finger and it fucken hurt like a bitch and i had A BALL on it UGHHHHH I HATE BUGS

Bigfoot or mothman? fucking none

Do you trust anyone with your life? i mean, idk

Do you have any habits you wish you could break? yEAH, to stop tweeting my mental breakdowns is one lmao. 

Would you go ghost/alien hunting? 

both tbh, who wants to break into abandoned houses w me, i live in front of one,,, i mean not so infront but in the row of houses infront of me lmao english whO? dude rosetta stoned by tool is my aesthetic, alien stuff. bex listen to it pls

Best pickup line? (you’ve heard or used on you/you’ve used)

u r the best chair *proceeds to sit on em* keith to shiro probably

Mint or fruit gum?

I dont like gum much cos it makes me hungry or thirsty. I also drink too much soda to fuck w mint stuff :(( say that to the mints i bought lol :( i only eat halls or gum bc im nerves w ppl so they stopped bein a thing i enjoy for me lol. i do that since im like,,, uh,,, idK 15. it fuckd my stomach

What do you want to be remembered for?

I mean if I have to pick and b unrealistic, for art maybe,,, or for the thing i end up working with, like architecture or somethin. Art, def art cus i like art so much

ZURI’S QUESTIONS!!!

1.-if you had to chose one thing to eat for the rest of your life what would it be? 

I MEAN THIS QUESTION IS THE DEVIL I GET TIRED OF EVERYTHING TO THE POINT I DONT WNAN EAT ANYTHING I WILL JUST IGNORE IT SSAYS ONE AND SAY MEXICAN FOOD

2.- what are you most afraid of? Mental illnes and being ill and living 

3.- do you have a favorite place to visit?

I mean,,,, i love walking in the center? centre? of my city bc is like going to another place. Is also fucking Cuba in there. Everyone says that, my dad asked a cuban marine he met if it was true and he said it was ‘’ the fackin same’’ So its like,,, travelling in time and places. also the beach and the port.

4.- what type of weather you enjoy the most?

I need the sun, otherwise i get sad… i like cloudy w sun. I just like to go out in the afternoon tho lol so like,,, sun pls so the sky can turn pinkish

5.- do you have a rare ability like dislocating your thumb or moving your eyes really fast?

i move my tongue real real fast and also can do the cherry knot thing and uh i can like, be aberrantly stupid too. hey but dont fuk w me and bother me 4 bein stupid, i will fist fite u and i mite b stupid but i will also mite think u r stupid if i don like u so fuk off. Dam,,, i get like, bothered so easy LOL like, think u r better than me and i’ll fist fite u LMFAO WHY THO I SUK, but like, if not bothered, i think of everyone as my equal… wow this was not the question

6.- do you think it would be easier to create one universal lenguage or an accurate translator? nO… dont delete culture like that,,, an accurate translator mite come in handy u kno but like, some languages have words that don’t exist in others so like :-/

7.- is there something that soothes you no matter what? um no i wish

8.- favorite piece of clothing? boots and thights

9.- is there a song stuck in your head right now? YEAH dig down by muse i love it, every1 says it sUCLks but i can’t stop listenin to it

10.- why is your favorite animal your favorite animal? i don play favs but i love the honey badger bc of this pleas fuckin watch it and THIS

11.- morning person or late riser? Oh,, i cant wake up to save my life so late riser

SUNNY’S QUESTIONS!!!

1. do you have any plushies? a LOT but im like,,, they r in my wardrobe and i luv em but like,,, they’re all gifts,,, did u kno one of my past bffs bought me a dino for christmas?

2. have you ever walked out the cinema before? 

Yeah, i love drive’s aesthetic and Ryan gosling a lot but is SO boring so idk if my friends and I got kicked out or we prefered to get out to talk haha. 

3. if you could have a mascot what would it be and why?

A CHINCHILLA, they’re a irl pokemon and they r so cUTE

4. what would your theme song be? kool thing, sonic youth maybe or is she weird by pixies. All Over the world by pixies too lol

5. do you have any phrases or sayings you find yourself coming back to often? not really, im so bad at remembering sayings and quotes

6what’s the nearest object to your right? a book called azul by ruben dario

7. would you rather live in the big city or out in the middle of nature? 

Big city forever. I love high? buildings a lot. I dont do that well in the rural life lmao 

8. are you working on any creative projects right now (fic/art/music/photography/ect) Nope at all and das sad cus i should b doing art lmao

9. what’s your favourite movie score? idk what is score… but the soundtrack of trainspotting is one of my favs… oh but score… aghgsdhaj any tarantino movie tbh or wes anderson movie… or before I disappear or demolition oR southpaw or the girl w the dragon tattoo

10. i say vol you say….? uuhhhhh,,,,,  vol….tron??? (ICONIC, I MELT, I LVOE HIM)

[broadwaybaby5677]

I need to get something off my chest.

It’s almost our first anniversary, and I have an equally sappy but less biting post ready for Friday. However...

K is sick tonight. Hopefully it’s just a bug, but for someone like me, with depression, anxiety, and a phobia of people being ill, that means there is a wild, wild cocktail of emotions whirling around in my mind. Add to that some of the things I’ve been hearing lately and having thrown at us, and you get this post.

So. Let me make a few things incredibly clear. It’s probably going to offend some people, and they can get over it. Anything negative will be deleted.

Yes, K is twice my age. Yes, it was weird at first and definitely took some getting used to. No, it is not something either of us ever planned or expected... but having each other has been a HUGE blessing.

We’ve gotten so, so many “dagger looks” from people who think our relationship is “creepy” or “inappropriate.” We’ve been mostly supported by our friends and some family... but we’ve also heard some incredibly negative things.

If you are in the LGBTQ/allies camp and cannot support us because there is a gap in our age (despite the fact that we are both grown individuals of sound mind who can make our own bloody decisions), you are being hypocritical. You demand tolerance from us, but cannot be tolerant TOWARDS us? I’m not talking about those who disagree but still care about our happiness and so back us as best they can. I’m talking about those who want to tell us we’re “gross” or that we should not or cannot be “respected” because of the gap in our ages. 

I’ve been called a gold digger (which is completely laughable). He’s been accused of being perverted, which is incredibly insulting and complete BS. 

I shouldn’t have to defend us. And frankly, I DON’T have to defend us. We are both legal adults, with very similar tastes in so many, many things, who are attracted to each other and love each other so, so deeply.

Dating someone older, LOVING someone older is not all peaches and cream. Let’s talk for just a moment about what it IS.

Loving someone older is spending long, sleepless, worry-filled nights because he is ill and his immune system is not as strong as yours. 

Loving someone older is knowing you will never meet your in-laws because they’ve already passed, and just praying they are watching over you and approving from Heaven. 

Loving someone older is trying to figure out how to be his girl without being “stepmom” to kids who are your age.

Loving someone older is (in our case) doctor’s appointments and long roadtrips to hospitals. It’s brand-new dietary restrictions. It’s trying to kiss away aches and pains that are too deep to truly be affected by sheer love alone.

Loving someone older is knowing the odds of you growing old together are slim to none, and the odds of being a young widow are much, much higher. It’s learning to cherish every single moment you have because you know they are limited. It could be a year, it could be thirty. But you just don’t know.

Loving someone older is learning to bend a little because he is very set in his ways... but then again, so are you.

BUT.

Loving someone older is so, so much like many other relationships.

For us, loving each other is knowing your best friend is always by your side, through thick and thin.

For us, loving each other is taking turns “parenting” each other... caring for each other when we are ill or sad, teaching each other. It’s learning to deal with physical and mental issues TOGETHER, not alone.

For us, loving each other is scrambled eggs, toast, and sausage in the morning, with vanilla caramel coffee. It’s taking time out of a busy day to spend a few minutes just being together.

For us, loving each other is singing karaoke songs that most people my age haven’t ever heard... and cracking up that we both know and love them so much. It’s bonding over television that aired when he was a kid... that I grew up watching reruns of. 

Loving each other is knowing someone always has our backs.

Loving each other is navigating this crazy journey together.

Loving each other is being able to talk about anything and everything.

Loving each other is finally being able to trust someone again.

Loving each other is knowing that we are blessed beyond measure to have each other. It is cherishing every moment, good and bad. 

Loving each other is finally, after so many years, being happy. It IS butterflies and that fizzy feeling in the pit of your stomach when he’s around... it is not always there. But when you get hit with it, it warms you from head to toe just like it did the very first time.

Loving each other is not always easy. But it is always worth it.

Anyone reading this who cannot support us, who cannot understand that despite the age gap, we have a very caring, honest, faithful relationship, can quietly step aside. We are so, so lucky in this hellish world to have found each other... and I’m not walking away.

I love you, K.

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[2018-09-16T15:13:47Z] olso6229: Also just saw the workshop with Pablo is actually on Friday, not during our meeting time on Thursday.

[2018-09-16T15:14:26Z] olso6229: Does that affect anyone else? I can’t go if it’s on Friday during that time, if someone else wants to take my spot. :white_check_mark:

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Visit The Japanese House - Barbican Blog

http://blog.barbican.org.uk/2017/06/visit-the-japanese-house-google-street-view/

[2018-09-17T06:44:33Z] mahla008: Just a link to a virtual tour of the Moriyama House, it's alot more complex and interesting than the movie showed. I have more articles and photos for anyone who's interested in seeing more

[2018-09-17T17:11:30Z] olso6229:

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Apply for a Campus Climate Micro-grant!

https://campus-climate.umn.edu/content/apply-campus-climate-micro-grant-1

[2018-09-18T19:51:33Z] mahla008:

[2018-09-18T19:51:50Z] mahla008: MINNCOR revenue in 2009

[2018-09-18T19:54:17Z] mahla008:

[2018-09-18T19:56:40Z] mahla008: 22 million

[2018-09-19T00:23:51Z] watso595: Is everyone (or a majority) able to meet Thursday before class? I feel it could be a good idea to talk about our edits to the guide in person and thought that might be the best option for time based on last week.

[2018-09-19T00:25:08Z] watso595: Also, should we have a way of marking those that have/have not been edited since class today? Maybe your initials/time that you edited in parentheses at the end of each point?

[2018-09-19T00:25:21Z] watso595: I’m open to other ideas too, just thought that could be helpful

[2018-09-19T01:53:46Z] karle029: when/where?

[2018-09-19T02:08:53Z] watso595: We could meet in studio maybe like an hour before class?

[2018-09-19T02:25:54Z] olso6229: I like that and im open to meeting anywhere

[2018-09-19T04:38:38Z] bialo011: Sounds good to me!

[2018-09-19T05:45:07Z] batzl015: I probably can’t make it before class, but I will try my best to condense and edit the guide tomorrow. I will note what I edited and when I did it.

[2018-09-19T15:04:27Z] schra470: I can be there before class as well!

[2018-09-19T15:05:44Z] mahla008: So studio an hour before?

[2018-09-19T16:09:54Z] watso595: Yeah let’s plan on that for those that can make it

[2018-09-19T17:14:34Z] rumbe003: Yoooo so Matt wanted me and Colton to spearhead a movement of changing the manifesto to be more "question based" if that makes sense

Instead of giving statements that work as solutions, let's use questions in the same way that we use design, to push boundaries, create problems, and push ourselves to think further and be more provocative

[2018-09-19T17:15:34Z] mahla008: So like, what is love?

[2018-09-19T17:16:09Z] rumbe003: Yeah something like that, or "How will we feel love?"

[2018-09-19T17:16:17Z] mahla008: Oooo

[2018-09-19T17:16:21Z] rumbe003: Questions with a slightly more specific scope

[2018-09-19T17:16:22Z] mahla008: I like that

[2018-09-19T17:16:23Z] rumbe003: if that makes sense

[2018-09-19T17:16:26Z] mahla008: Ye

[2018-09-19T17:17:08Z] rumbe003: Matt was really about it, he liked the idea of posing questions now, and potentially answering them later in the semester with our work

[2018-09-19T17:19:11Z] bialo011: Honestly not crazy about that

[2018-09-19T17:19:31Z] mahla008: That sounds better than trying to have a set of definitives without actually experiencing wecolab as a whole

[2018-09-19T17:20:39Z] batzl015: Yeah, I mean it’s a different structure so that could be interesting, but it seems like with questions as the structure, it gets really simple and bony provocative

[2018-09-19T17:20:47Z] batzl015: Like it doesn’t seem like anything new

[2018-09-19T17:21:08Z] rumbe003: Yeah idk man haha I'm just communicating what Matt was excited about and wanted me to do

[2018-09-19T17:21:34Z] batzl015: Cause we can ask questions all day, but making statements that cause you to ask questions seems a lot more powerful

[2018-09-19T17:22:17Z] rumbe003: That's true, but also i feel like statements are already defining the answer to any question we may come across

[2018-09-19T17:22:34Z] rumbe003: I'm down with whatever

[2018-09-19T17:23:10Z] mahla008: We just need to destil and condense our manifesto, maybe doing what we did and just make a statement for each word we want to convey

[2018-09-19T17:23:43Z] rumbe003: What if we do both?? Come up with a statement about love, and follow it up with, "How will we feel love?" Essentially saying "How will we enact the statement we just defined?"

[2018-09-19T17:23:53Z] bialo011: I think we should talk about it tomorrow. Because this is our manifesto too, not just what matt thinks is best.

[2018-09-19T17:24:11Z] rumbe003: ^truuuuuu

[2018-09-19T17:24:18Z] mahla008: But do we want it done tomorrow, cause I think Matt does

[2018-09-19T17:24:39Z] mahla008: Like finish it before class when most of us meet

[2018-09-19T17:25:53Z] rumbe003: We have to find a way to meet Matt straight on with productive resistance ya know?

[2018-09-19T17:26:28Z] bialo011: For sure

[2018-09-19T17:26:40Z] watso595: I think should still edit them as statements like we were planning

[2018-09-19T17:27:01Z] watso595: I agree we can talk about the question stuff tomorrow

[2018-09-19T17:28:16Z] batzl015: I’m prob gonna edit quite a bit today, I’ll keep changes noted in the comments

[2018-09-19T19:01:30Z] batzl015: I just moved every statement of the same category next to each other. I’m going to see if I can condense to eliminate redundancy/condense

[2018-09-19T19:23:15Z] danks010: I'm really up for whatever. On one hand, I think using questions would allow individuals to put there own meaning behind their answers, especially as it pertains to answer the why question behind the point of the manifesto. Although I realize it is our manifesto so I think it needs to revolve around our goals and thus statements might help hold us accountable and solidify our ability to collaborate as one based on a uniform standard. For tomorrow, I don't think we should change what we have in terms of rewriting them in the form of questions. As long as we can condense and form our statements in the right terms, it should work and if we discuss the question idea tomorrow and want to push that concept forward we can.

[2018-09-19T19:23:54Z] danks010: Also, I can try to meet an hour before class. No promises though because I'm not sure how traffic will be. But I can always try!

[2018-09-19T19:24:17Z] batzl015: I’m editing rn if anyone wants to hop in the google doc with me :+1::skin-tone-2:

[2018-09-19T19:24:28Z] batzl015: Feel free to scrub anything I’ve done haha

[2018-09-19T19:24:35Z] batzl015: Just leave comments so we can talk about it

[2018-09-19T19:25:25Z] batzl015: Also it looks like there’s room for 16 statements on one page... We’re currently at 28

[2018-09-19T19:30:44Z] bialo011: I can hop on in a sec

[2018-09-19T20:14:44Z] danks010: I be on in a half hour Oliver! Just finishing up the model for Brad's class.

[2018-09-19T20:15:26Z] batzl015: Cool, Andrew and I have done a lot of editing, but please look through and share opinions. That goes for everyone!!!

[2018-09-19T20:16:25Z] danks010: I'm going to completely change it.....Nah ill proofread it and add anything that needs adding. I'm sure its coming along!

[2018-09-19T20:51:37Z] batzl015: We should probably arrange, delete, and get close to finalizing by the end of today. Tomorrow morning can be for last touches

[2018-09-19T20:53:11Z] danks010: For sure! I'm reading over everything right now to get familiar with some of the changes.

[2018-09-19T21:30:28Z] karle029: was the Destil on purpose

[2018-09-19T21:31:42Z] karle029: have we thought about inviting matt to this slack?

[2018-09-19T21:32:42Z] bialo011: I think he is already

[2018-09-19T21:32:51Z] karle029: also if anyone is interested in researching prison labor and prison censorship historically and today I got some really great leads from Linnea at the archives

[2018-09-19T21:33:06Z] karle029:

[2018-09-19T21:33:13Z] karle029:

[2018-09-19T21:33:42Z] mahla008: Is anyone in rapson?

[2018-09-19T21:34:01Z] mahla008: Me and parker are in studio talking about this if others wanted to join

[2018-09-20T00:45:24Z] olso6229: yes, everyone including Matt is in the Slack channel. His handle is

[2018-09-20T00:47:35Z] olso6229: Has anyone else looked at Boris' work/website/views on art+collaboration/bio on WAM site?

[2018-09-20T00:51:48Z] olso6229:

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Portræt af Boris Oicherman

https://vimeo.com/141645079

[2018-09-20T00:55:45Z] mahla008: He looks so different lol

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Art

http://oicherman.net/boris/art

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From the Archives: Allan Kaprow on the Legacy of Jackson Pollock, in 1958 -

http://www.artnews.com/2018/02/09/archives-allan-kaprow-legacy-jackson-pollock-1958/

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Allan Kaprow - How to Make a Happening

https://youtu.be/8iCM-YIjyHE

[2018-09-20T01:54:29Z] olso6229: Here's a PDF transcription of the whole LP:

[2018-09-20T04:04:53Z] mahla008: Hey guys, don't like be mad at me or anything but i've been doing research on MINNCOR and idk if they are really that bad

[2018-09-20T04:49:35Z] mahla008: Like they still bad but like not as bad as I think we were lead to believe

[2018-09-20T12:15:13Z] olso6229: Oh yeah?

[2018-09-20T14:02:08Z] bialo011: how so?

[2018-09-20T14:12:46Z] mahla008: Are we meeting in studio?

[2018-09-20T17:38:27Z] batzl015: theres a mincorfurniture folder

[2018-09-20T17:38:33Z] batzl015: channel*

[2018-09-20T17:45:44Z] feria006: Tales of the traveling bag. To be continued

[2018-09-20T18:27:01Z] krieg087: So I was thinking a lot in class today about research, I re-watched 13th, and then watched a Portuguese film called "How Tasty is my Little Frenchman" that is inadvertently about imprisonment in 1500s colonial Brazil. Would anyone be interested in me creating a channel for research on the history of imprisonment and prison labor?

[2018-09-20T18:27:23Z] bialo011: do it

[2018-09-20T18:42:10Z] olso6229: Yes

[2018-09-20T18:44:06Z] olso6229: i wish my girlfriend was in the room for the first part of our conversation today, we would’ve learned so much about language

[2018-09-20T18:46:40Z] olson175: How so Lee?

[2018-09-20T18:58:12Z] olso6229: she did her undergrad in linguistics with several courses at graduate level during that time, her last 2 or 3 semesters of school were basically thesis

[2018-09-20T18:59:35Z] olson175: cool... would love to know who some of her favorite language thinkers are

[2018-09-20T19:00:00Z] olso6229: not chomsky, i can tell you that much

[2018-09-20T19:02:49Z] olson175: i love chomsky but, not because of his linguistic work

[2018-09-20T19:03:02Z] olson175: I wonder if she has thoughts on Barthes

[2018-09-20T19:07:07Z] olso6229: i will ask tonight. if anyone else has any questions about language, let me know anytime

[2018-09-20T19:08:05Z] krieg087: ^Same here Lee, my sister is currently getting her PHD in Linguistics and I can always ask her any questions as well!

[2018-09-20T19:08:35Z] olso6229: COOOOOOOOL

[2018-09-20T19:11:03Z] olson175: ask her about Barthes and Lakoff. I've watched a couple interesting lectures by Lakoff.

[2018-09-20T19:11:18Z] feria006: Bag makes it through lecture!

[2018-09-20T19:14:02Z] olso6229:

[2018-09-20T19:14:31Z] olso6229:

[2018-09-20T19:14:58Z] olso6229: Bag timelapse video + body art engulfed by bag body

[2018-09-20T19:34:34Z] krieg087: I absolutely will

[2018-09-20T19:43:43Z] olso6229: has anyone looked at the zines in the rapson library

[2018-09-20T19:45:35Z] olso6229: or read ursula le guin's the ones who walk away from omelas

[2018-09-20T19:45:57Z] olso6229: looking at the range of minncor products reminds me of her short story

[2018-09-21T00:47:08Z] santo204: Yee the zines in the library are really cool. Did we figure out if we were using a google drive or a Lightroom to upload media?

[2018-09-21T00:49:24Z] santo204: Or did we want to create a channel on this strictly for videos/photos/ other media

[2018-09-21T01:01:56Z] watso595: I thought we were planning on using Lightroom. I feel like starting a new channel for this might be good so we can share links to Lightroom and keep them in one place?

[2018-09-21T01:02:08Z] watso595: I can start a channel for media

[2018-09-21T01:17:29Z] santo204:

Apparently, Black Mountain College’s flame has been reignited on the same Claud location and has rebranded as School of the Alternative.

[2018-09-21T01:24:05Z] santo204: *campus not Claud

[2018-09-21T18:23:46Z] schra470: Hey guys! So Evan and I spent some time at Wilson library, and upon asking for information on university spending (and what kind of money is going from UMN to Minncor) we were directed to the "Purchasing Services" webpage. Although there were no readily available materials with this information, we contacted the general services via email and asked very politely who we may be able to get in contact with to understand the university's opinion on this matter. Hopefully they get back to me soon with some more information, and maybe a contact to sit down with and ask questions! Ill Keep you all posted :grin:

[2018-09-21T18:25:03Z] olso6229: Cool !!

[2018-09-21T18:26:03Z] kesse046: Here are some interesting resources:

[2018-09-21T18:26:08Z] kesse046: This video was helpful:

It mentioned these topics:

Minncor history:

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Prison Labor: Modern SLAVERY?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ7yN52tE5k

Burl Cain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burl_Cain

[2018-09-21T18:27:22Z] mahla008: What a picture

[2018-09-21T18:27:42Z] batzl015: Just got out of the collaboration workshop :sunglasses: this is gonna be cool to do with you all

[2018-09-21T18:32:08Z] mahla008:

[2018-09-21T18:38:43Z] olso6229:

[2018-09-21T18:54:14Z] olso6229: ... none of the librarians at the downtown minneapolis library are cool with us taking a photo

[2018-09-21T18:54:44Z] olso6229: All of them have politely declined

[2018-09-21T18:56:25Z] olso6229: Only library entity we could get a photo with so far

[2018-09-21T18:56:35Z] olso6229:

[2018-09-21T18:57:40Z] olso6229: FINALLY

[2018-09-21T18:57:53Z] olso6229:

[2018-09-22T18:24:03Z] mahla008: Hey has anyone been to the university resuse center this year yet? They might have MINNCOR furinture that we can purchase and own to do stuff with

[2018-09-22T18:26:08Z] watso595: Haley mentioned that too... I haven’t been but I remember talking to some people who found the “dorm chairs” there before I knew they were minncor

[2018-09-22T18:26:45Z] mahla008: Cool well maybe that's a next weekend trip since they only open on saturdays

[2018-09-22T18:27:00Z] watso595: We can also get it for free since we would be using it for university purposes

[2018-09-22T18:27:34Z] mahla008: Ooo ye or unless anyone has time to go to the center with a car today?

[2018-09-22T18:47:14Z] watso595: I've started putting together some of the clips I took on Thursday into a short video. A lot of my videos need some editing in premiere so I think it could be easier if I use the file I've already started but if others are interested in putting that video together we can find a time to meet and work on it!

[2018-09-22T18:48:54Z] watso595: otherwise, if you have videos, could you throw them in the drive?

[2018-09-22T22:20:06Z] danks010: uploading them now Parker! Sorry its taking so long. It's a decent size file

[2018-09-23T00:06:41Z] danks010:

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Bag of Air Performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z048OrJ57so&feature=youtu.be

[2018-09-23T00:07:02Z] danks010: This video has not been edited, so it is essentially the raw content

[2018-09-23T23:57:42Z] karle029: yes!

[2018-09-24T06:12:16Z] santo204: Parker, I’d be interrelated in meeting up this week & working on the film

[2018-09-24T15:37:03Z] schra470: A reply to my email to Purchasing Services about Minncor! Some good information in here!

[2018-09-24T15:38:51Z] batzl015: Good info find! could you post the spreadsheet as an attachment?

[2018-09-24T15:38:54Z] schra470: And here is the spreadsheet that details the amounts spent!

[2018-09-24T15:41:34Z] batzl015: cool! thanks!

[2018-09-24T17:17:19Z] rumbe003:

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13TH | Official Trailer [HD] | Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V66F3WU2CKk

[2018-09-24T17:17:29Z] rumbe003: If anyone hasn't watched this yet, I would highly recommend doing so

[2018-09-24T17:17:57Z] rumbe003: Could help us gain some perspective and relate more closely to some of the stuff we'll be working on

[2018-09-24T20:01:42Z] danks010: I remembered that we touched on bell hooks a little bit last week and I found a really interesting book of her that related to Love and how people define, and acknowledge love and how love impacts relationships, both romantically and socially. I'm only a chapter in, but it is a really unique approach that I thought I would share with you. Here's the link for the online version of the book. It can be downloaded as a pdf from the site which is really nice.

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124493278-bell-hooks-All-About-Love.pdf

https://www.docdroid.net/goTB7E8/124493278-bell-hooks-all-about-love.pdf

[2018-09-24T20:04:32Z] danks010: She also talks about belonging in her work with regards to connection through love and compassion. She has a book about belonging, which I have attached, as well as a talk on youtube. Both are below and are very helpful in determining were each person belongs in this world. Really inspirational stuff and relates quite a bit to our manifesto. .

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Belonging: A Culture of Place by bell hooks

https://issuu.com/schoolofthedamned/docs/bell-hooks-belonging-a-culture-of-p

bell hooks & john a. powell: Belonging Through Connection (Othering & Belonging Conference 2015)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sX7fqIU4gQ

[2018-09-24T21:41:08Z] olson175: THX Colton!

[2018-09-24T22:03:21Z] olson175: Do any of you guys speak French?

[2018-09-24T22:14:18Z] karle029: I took three years of french in high school - so i would say very minimally haha

[2018-09-24T22:15:35Z] olson175: Andrew has been looking into Emanuele Coccia. He's mostly a European phenomenon so far but... there are some videos in French...

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Conversation: Emanuele Coccia - Vinciane Despret

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDGNEJfxAPg

[2018-09-24T22:17:25Z] olson175: Emanuele Coccia makes a couple appearances in the required texts... I hope you guys are digging in to those!

[2018-09-25T18:12:21Z] broad095: has joined the channel

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[2018-09-25T22:35:18Z] olso6229: swapping my Chuck Close quote out of the zine FYI

[2018-09-25T22:39:44Z] olso6229: edited the wecolab guide doc, good to go

[2018-09-25T22:46:10Z] broad095: Is anyone else in favor of more images for the next edition? I feel like it might be too much text. Thoughts?

[2018-09-25T22:50:58Z] olso6229: Yes

[2018-09-25T22:51:03Z] olso6229: And sketches

[2018-09-25T22:51:17Z] olso6229: Im drawing the interview i did with my mom for the next zine

[2018-09-25T22:51:28Z] olso6229: Comic book / graphic novel style

[2018-09-26T01:01:03Z] renst011: There will definitely be more already from the documentation of last Tuesday and today

[2018-09-26T01:01:07Z] renst011: Plus yes for sure any imagery to support the individual assignments and referential images

[2018-09-26T01:13:37Z] olso6229: do you need any more photos from today’s session? I took a few, but i saw you had taken some too. Let me know

[2018-09-26T02:30:37Z] renst011: Feel free to throw them in the media channel! I won't know for sure until I start in on the next newsletter but the more pics the better

[2018-09-26T13:29:25Z] olso6229: asked my partner, Calli, what she thought about Barthes and Lakoff. She said "they're outside my specialization so i don't know enough about their theories to really make a statement about them. but i do prefer lakoffs theory of generative semantics to chomskys generative syntax. basically, we have to take semantics and meaning into account in sentence construction. chomsky syntax treats the mind and language as highly logical and mathematical. however, humans don't operate on that alone. communication relies on meaning, memory, and intention, which must be accounted for when discussing linguistics."

[2018-09-26T15:44:13Z] olso6229: and then i asked her about something she says about language often, that language is referential. "well when i say its referential, i'm talking about the fact that we can talk about the world around us. things and experiences. i believe its universal. remember the isolated mind conversation? a mind outside of any kind of environment would still have the capacity to refer to itself, its experience, and its functioning."

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[2018-09-26T15:45:32Z] olso6229: i'm curious to hear how this overlaps/aligns/conflicts? with color science/perception?

[2018-09-26T16:54:37Z] boris: Color is an extremely interesting case study of language. I believe I mentioned the book "Through the Language Glass"- it's about that. It's very related to Lakoff and Johnson's metaphor theory, and how metaphors are not just language constructs but creators of realities. Remind me next time in class, I'll tell more

[2018-09-26T21:18:37Z] mahla008:

[2018-09-26T21:20:06Z] olso6229: becomes one with paper

[2018-09-26T21:21:17Z] olso6229: becomes one with minerals

[2018-09-26T22:13:28Z] olso6229: Everyone needs to go to the library in the walker art center

[2018-09-26T22:34:57Z] danks010: Here are a few photos from and I from our trip at the Walker Art Center Library. Found tons of resources on many of the people we talked about, as well as some useful prison and manifesto resources as well.

[2018-09-26T22:35:14Z] danks010:

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[2018-09-26T22:35:49Z] danks010:

[2018-09-26T22:36:14Z] danks010: Tons of stuff on john cage that could be useful for your interview with him!

[2018-09-26T22:38:33Z] feria006: HAPPY BIRTHDAY LEE!

[2018-09-26T22:39:47Z] olson175: NOW I'M HAPPY

[2018-09-26T22:42:11Z] olso6229: Thanks for the birthday love

[2018-09-26T22:43:44Z] olso6229: deep in this black mt college tome. Theres a photo in there of john cage, merce cunnigham, josef albers together

[2018-09-26T22:44:39Z] olso6229: explores a collection of UMN installation artwork over the years

[2018-09-26T22:45:51Z] olso6229: Finding a potential path through Kaleidoscope magazine as a way for the zine

[2018-09-26T22:46:16Z] olso6229:

[2018-09-26T22:46:44Z] olso6229:

[2018-09-26T22:48:08Z] olso6229:

[2018-09-26T22:48:20Z] olso6229:

[2018-09-26T22:48:49Z] olso6229:

[2018-09-26T23:09:59Z] olson175: Fun fact you guys! I designed Kaleidoscope Magazine's booth at the NADA Art Fair in NYC a few years ago!

[2018-09-26T23:24:10Z] karle029: Do you have a copy?

[2018-09-26T23:26:19Z] karle029: Some of the topics we've been talking about in class are also being discussed in my sustainability class--for the first time that I've been aware of.

[2018-09-26T23:27:04Z] karle029: If anyone is interested in reading the entire article (3 pages)

[2018-09-27T00:00:52Z] olso6229: then it isnt coincidence that we gravitate to kaleidoscope

[2018-09-27T01:14:14Z] rumbe003: Lots of relevant theories and ideas brought forward by artist Joseph Kosuth here that could definitely be applied to our work and it's "meaning" and how we will construct that meaning

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ARTISTS TALK #4: JOSEPH KOSUTH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hpfkIPTRBo

[2018-09-27T01:16:04Z] olso6229: anything helpful that we should bring when you teach us the pablo workshop?

[2018-09-27T01:17:19Z] olson175: Hey! Didn't I tell one of you guys to look into Joseph Kosuth and his chair piece? Who was that?

[2018-09-27T01:22:50Z] rumbe003: Haha it was me Matt

[2018-09-27T01:23:20Z] rumbe003: Well at least you told me to look into Joseph Kosuth, you never said anything specific about a chair piece, so maybe someone else as well

[2018-09-27T01:23:47Z] rumbe003: just a level of high energy and eagerness haha as cheesy as that sounds

[2018-09-27T17:47:17Z] olso6229: Anyone else want how can i help by ram dass? i just got another copy

[2018-09-27T17:53:51Z] danks010: Perhaps...Can you bring it to climate change and I'll take a peek at it!

[2018-09-27T17:54:02Z] olso6229: Yes

[2018-09-27T17:54:23Z] danks010: Alright! Coming in clutch....

[2018-09-27T17:54:29Z] olso6229: I think Public Functionary in NE minneapolis could be a guide for us, or something to draw from

[2018-09-27T17:54:32Z] olso6229:

[2018-09-27T17:55:24Z] olso6229: upcoming exhibits:

[2018-09-27T17:55:25Z] olso6229:

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— Public Functionary

https://publicfunctionary.org/calendar/racingmagpie

[2018-09-27T17:56:05Z] olso6229:

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— Public Functionary

https://publicfunctionary.org/calendar/conversation-matrix

[2018-09-27T18:13:17Z] olso6229: the new Moon Palace Books on Minnehaha is also very spicy right now

[2018-09-27T18:14:13Z] olso6229:

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Moon Palace Books

https://moonpalacebooks.com/?q=h.calevents

[2018-09-27T18:15:17Z] olso6229: They do a lot of readings/events with trans/gay/bi/etc authors. I don't know how to describe the sensation of being there but it's unlike any other bookstore I've been to

[2018-09-27T18:20:03Z] olso6229: also rad metal/noise concerts hahaha

[2018-09-27T19:26:46Z] olso6229:

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carsten höller: soma

https://www.designboom.com/art/carsten-holler-soma/

[2018-09-27T20:08:28Z] olso6229: revisiting my notes from allan kaprow's 1958 essay "the legacy of jackson pollock", this bit seemed relevant to our discussion about objects today

[2018-09-27T20:08:47Z] olso6229: maybe this can help guide us?

[2018-09-27T20:08:57Z] olso6229: At any rate, for now, we may consider that, except for rare instances, Western art tends to need many more indirections in achieving itself, placing more or less equal emphasis upon “things” and the relations between them. The crudeness of Jackson Pollock is not, therefore, uncouth or designed as such; it is manifestly frank and uncultivated, unsullied by training, trade secrets, finesse—a directness which the European artists he liked hoped for and partially succeeded in, but which he never had to strive after because he had it by nature. This by itself would be enough to teach us something.

It does. Pollock, as I see him, left us at the point where we must become preoccupied with and even dazzled by the space and objects of our everyday life, either our bodies, clothes, rooms, or, if need be, the vastness of Forty-Second Street. Not satisfied with the suggestion through paint of our other senses, we shall utilize the specific substances of sigh, sound, movements, people, odors, touch. Objects of every sort are materials for the new art: paint, chairs, food, electric and neon lights, smoke, water, old socks, a dog, movies, a thousand other things which will be discovered by the present generation of artists. Not only will these bold creators show us, as if for the first time, the world we have always had about us, but ignored, but they will disclose entirely unheard of happenings and events, found in garbage cans, police files, hotel lobbies, seen in store windows and on the streets, and sensed in dreams and horrible accidents. An odor of crushed strawberries, a letter from a friend or a billboard selling Draino; three taps on the front door, a scratch, a sigh or a voice lecturing endlessly, a blinding staccato flash, a bowler hat—all will become materials for this new concrete art.

[2018-09-27T20:18:26Z] olso6229: another forthcoming book from Emanuele Coccia in a couple months

[2018-09-27T20:18:30Z] olso6229:

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The Transitory Museum

https://www.wiley.com/en-ai/The+Transitory+Museum-p-9781509533077

[2018-09-27T20:18:44Z] olso6229: "Stemming from a case study of this genre-defining entity, this first philosophical inquiry into a store aims to shed a new light on how categories that have governed our modern social, economic, political and individual lives, such as commerce, art, fashion, museum, are being redefined today. It calls on us to re-engage with what we long considered to be separate: transcendence and immanence, human beings and their objects."

[2018-09-27T20:27:39Z] olso6229: Lil B was at my friend's house recently

[2018-09-27T20:29:15Z] olso6229: Emanuele Coccia interviewed about one of his new books this year (The Life of Plants: A Metaphysics of Melange), perspectives on biology/botany/chemistry here

[2018-09-27T20:29:17Z] olso6229: "Plants embody life’s continuity, not its separation into distinct realms."

[2018-09-27T20:29:31Z] olso6229: "The interesting thing is, the transformation of the atmosphere into an oxygenated atmosphere was a byproduct of plant metabolism. In fact, the primary function of photosynthesis is not the production of oxygen but the storage of solar energy in mass. The byproduct of that process is the production of oxygen."

[2018-09-27T20:29:57Z] olso6229: :seedling::seedling::seedling:

[2018-09-27T20:35:34Z] olso6229: I wanted to copy & paste every sentence from this interview

[2018-09-27T20:35:37Z] olso6229:

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Emanuele Coccia - purple MAGAZINE

http://purple.fr/magazine/purple-25yrs-anniv-issue-28/emanuele-coccia/

[2018-09-27T20:35:56Z] olso6229: This is powerful and I'm pre-ordering the book now

[2018-09-27T21:02:05Z] batzl015: Thanks for putting this interview up! I should get a little reading in before I interview my mom on the subject.

[2018-09-28T03:34:06Z] olso6229: EVERYONE WE NEED TO GO TO THIS

[2018-09-28T03:34:08Z] olso6229:

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Beyond Bars: A Public Reading - October 22, 2016, 7:00pm

https://www.mnprisonwriting.org/mpww-public-reading.html

[2018-09-28T03:34:29Z] olso6229: THIS IS CRITICAL

[2018-09-28T03:34:43Z] mahla008: #critical

[2018-09-28T03:43:12Z] olso6229: please someone else go to this tomorrow, im in a studio during this time so i cant

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We Are All Criminals | Share Your Story

https://wam.umn.edu/calendar/we-are-all-criminals-share-your-story/

[2018-09-28T04:04:47Z] batzl015: Just interviewed my mom (Janet Batzli) who teaches biology and ecology at the University of Wisconsin about Emanuele Coccia and the idea of oxygen as a byproduct. In short, we ended up talking about the larger systems involving plants and how nearly every part of the human body is directly related to plant processes. My mom’s dissertation research and expertise is in the process of nitrogen fixation which, similarly to Coccia’s book, involves plant byproducts and a symbiosis of microbes and plants existing while creating an environment for life to continue and flourish. Very cool in reference to connectedness.

[2018-09-28T04:05:22Z] batzl015: I have a link to explain nitrogen fixation a little better.

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nitrogen-fixing bacteria | Definition & Types

https://www.britannica.com/science/nitrogen-fixing-bacteria

[2018-09-28T04:07:09Z] olso6229: !!!

[2018-09-28T04:07:21Z] olso6229: I CANT WAIT TO SEE THE FULL INTERVIEW

[2018-09-28T04:08:22Z] olso6229: now interview emanuele coccia about your mom's ideas

[2018-09-28T04:09:04Z] watso595: Just read an interesting article for another class but I think there's a connection there. Something about trusting that the thing will take you somewhere and the importance of letting go to (in this case formal) prescriptions

[2018-09-28T04:09:06Z] watso595:

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Iceland students turn willow branches into materials range

https://www.dezeen.com/2016/03/18/iceland-academy-arts-product-design-students-willow-project-materials-range-designmarch-2016/

[2018-09-28T20:57:23Z] kesse046: Here's the thing I gave you guys yesterday. I hope this helps!

[2018-09-28T21:41:06Z] watso595: Hey guys, after you all send in your library selfies, come to studio for the BDA student association movie night at 7, we’ll have veggie chili!

[2018-09-28T22:32:58Z] olson175: Thanks for sharing these Evan. They aren't the only MINNCOR products tho. There are others as well. I discussed one with Brendan today that is a library cubicle/study carrel table that two people sit at. Sorta reminds me of when prisoners have visitors...? Something interesting about those forms...?

[2018-09-28T22:33:18Z] olson175:

[2018-09-29T04:22:32Z] rumbe003:

[2018-09-29T04:22:55Z] rumbe003: “I think collaboration is a prescription

or device that keeps one from getting hung up on a strong

single intention that blinds,” Rauschenberg reflected in

1987. “Every individual that you add to a project will result

in ten times as many new possibilities.”

[2018-09-29T04:23:32Z] rumbe003: This will tie into the workshop on Tuesday, more people = more possibilities

[2018-09-29T04:45:51Z] rumbe003: According to this article, prison labor has been exploited in the US for a lonnngggg time. In 1885(!!!!), prison industries produced 24.2 million dollars worth of products. That number had already skyrocketed up to 73.8 million dollars worth of products by 1923, and now it's valued at over 2 BILLION dollars worth of products a year. In 2001 it was valued at 1.8 billion, and it's already gone up.

[2018-09-29T11:44:22Z] olso6229: We should do a group outing before winter, maybe can can wonderland? Other ideas?

[2018-09-29T12:28:46Z] olso6229:

[2018-09-29T12:29:27Z] olso6229:

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PREVIEW Foam Magazine #51, Seer/Believer

https://issuu.com/foam-magazine/docs/41-004_fm51_01_reduced_pages_issuu_

[2018-09-29T12:44:47Z] olso6229: maybe we can use issuu as a platform to distribute our zine?

[2018-09-29T13:43:08Z] olso6229:

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Rick Owens: Furniture

https://www.moca.org/exhibition/rickowensfurniture

[2018-09-30T14:27:22Z] olso6229: Book arrived today!!

[2018-09-30T15:29:38Z] olson175: I'm a huge fan of Rick Owens! We remade one of his beds for an exhibit at Haus der Kunst in Munich

[2018-09-30T19:28:09Z] olso6229: WOW Ram Dass’ dolphin story at the start of How Can I Help? Also the chapter titled “helping prison”

[2018-09-30T19:28:38Z] olso6229: I have a reverse experience with a baby bird

[2018-09-30T20:17:32Z] karle029: Notes from class last tuesday, add to them if you have anything else to add/we can continue adding to this doc for future classes if that seems valuable

[2018-09-30T20:20:18Z] olso6229: YES thank you

[2018-09-30T21:47:48Z] karle029: I really enjoy a lot of these

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Art - Judd Foundation

https://juddfoundation.org/artist/art/

[2018-10-01T00:36:48Z] douga018: Hey guys, so I just saw a tweet about Washington State releasing prisoners that were convicted of marijuana possession, so I started to look into it more just by googling. I found a couple of different articles and a lot of them mention the war on drugs, a clear racial bias, and mass incarceration. I thought it related a lot to what we have talked about in class, here is a link to one of the articles. Its a nice short read, but relevant to our class discussions.

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Seattle To Become Latest City To Erase Past Marijuana Convictions

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/seattle-past-marijuana-convictions_us_5a7c661be4b044b3821a2a9f

[2018-10-01T01:45:52Z] olso6229: hey sasha, check these out, i dont know why your judd foundation link reminded me of this

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The Uncomfortable

https://www.theuncomfortable.com/

[2018-10-01T01:48:21Z] karle029: ooo fun thank you

[2018-10-01T02:33:18Z] olso6229:

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Library Record Detail

https://midwayart.org/library/record/9958/

[2018-10-01T02:38:56Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-01T02:48:33Z] watso595: Abe and I have started talking about noise music and I found a list of some of the music that was in Moriyama San if anyone is interested in listening

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The Records of Yasuo Moriyama - Barbican Blog

http://blog.barbican.org.uk/2017/03/the-records-of-yasuo-moriyama/

[2018-10-01T02:52:30Z] olso6229: Merzbow's Pulse Demon is the obligatory album I have to mention

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Merzbow - Pulse Demon (Full Album)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AguPH0XBxdw

[2018-10-01T02:59:24Z] olso6229: soooooo we're all going to that moriyama gallery in london right???

[2018-10-01T02:59:27Z] olso6229: its open until june 23

[2018-10-01T02:59:35Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-01T02:59:48Z] mahla008: Hell ya

[2018-10-01T14:16:51Z] olso6229: about to pick up this book

[2018-10-01T14:16:52Z] olso6229:

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Stories of Almost Everyone - Hammer Museum

https://hammer.ucla.edu/exhibitions/2018/stories-of-almost-everyone/

[2018-10-01T16:43:40Z] olso6229: ram dass is still alive

[2018-10-01T16:43:45Z] olso6229: we should connect with him

[2018-10-01T16:44:19Z] olso6229: im calling it right now, when he dies someone is going to make a biopic and cast jaoquin phoenix as him

[2018-10-01T17:09:05Z] olso6229: this comes out tomorrow:

[2018-10-01T20:15:04Z] batzl015: IMPORTANT STUFF RIGHT HERE!!!! Sam and I are leading a workshop tomorrow for the class, it’s going to be super fun, but we’d like to communicate the following message in preparation for tomorrow morning.

[2018-10-01T20:16:05Z] batzl015: Internalize this message and do what you will with it: Think of something you’re an expert on, or passionate about, and come prepared to give an individual performance on it first thing tomorrow morning. Bring any materials/objects that you think may enhance your performances. Be creative, that is all.

[2018-10-01T21:12:04Z] mahla008: Me and Parker getting helped out by a lovely wood librarian

[2018-10-01T23:16:24Z] mahla008: I found 9 landscape manifesto books in the rapson trash just now

[2018-10-01T23:18:11Z] watso595: Whaaaat no

[2018-10-01T23:18:25Z] mahla008: come over here

[2018-10-01T23:20:18Z] mahla008: its about prison labor and using people for gain i.e. blood diamonds

[2018-10-01T23:20:26Z] mahla008: its so cool

[2018-10-01T23:21:59Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-01T23:22:28Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-01T23:23:55Z] mahla008: i'll bring them tomorrow so people who want to read them can get them after class

[2018-10-01T23:44:40Z] olso6229: Why were these in the trash???? :fearful::scream:

[2018-10-01T23:45:06Z] batzl015: those are COOL

[2018-10-01T23:50:10Z] mahla008: Idk I love them, I think Jacob Manz threw them out they were in a box with his name on it

[2018-10-02T02:58:52Z] rumbe003: IMPORTANT STUFF RIGHT HERE!!!! Oliver and I are leading a workshop tomorrow for the class, it’s going to be super fun, but we’d like to communicate the following message in preparation for tomorrow morning.

Internalize this message and do what you will with it: Think of something you’re an expert on, or passionate about, and come prepared to give an individual performance on it first thing tomorrow morning. Bring any materials/objects that you think may enhance your performances. Be creative, that is all.

[2018-10-02T02:58:57Z] rumbe003: Reposting so everyone sees it

[2018-10-02T05:09:07Z] danks010: I realize everyone has been researching different topics and different types of media with regards to finding information pertaining to prisons, prison labor, etc. With that being said, I decided to take a step out of the text aspect to see how forms can influence multiply people. Rather than continuing to flood the slack with readings and articles I have researched, I decided to look at a form of media that influences almost everyone. Thus, I looked into researching music about prison and how artists can evoke meaning and spread ideas about prison and prison labor. I created a document that starts to pile a list of songs and lyrics about prison songs, including links to the songs for those who have not heard some of them. For me, I think it was really beneficial to step back out of the book and see how prisons and prison labor is portrayed in other fields. Here is the link to the document, however if it does not work, I can share the google docs with everyone.

[2018-10-03T03:40:32Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-03T03:40:33Z] mahla008: Have you guys seen this?

[2018-10-03T03:40:41Z] mahla008: Rapson hall second floor

[2018-10-03T03:41:00Z] mahla008: Someone else is making zines

[2018-10-03T03:41:02Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-03T03:44:16Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-03T03:44:28Z] mahla008: Nothing too exciting but I got a couple if sweet buttons

[2018-10-03T03:44:50Z] mahla008: Maybe these people are someone to talk to

[2018-10-03T12:02:30Z] olso6229: thanks again for the landscape manifesto books, just read the manifesto on the inside covers

[2018-10-03T12:02:41Z] olso6229: I love the way its formatted

[2018-10-03T12:03:06Z] olso6229: Maybe something we can draw from if/when we reshape our wecolab manifesto later on?

[2018-10-03T12:25:43Z] olso6229: What do you all think of the undermining empire manifesto? I dont know how many people got a copy of it but we can share next time

[2018-10-03T12:27:13Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-03T12:27:37Z] olso6229: I feel like this one transcends the Canadian focus of the publication and bleeds over into what we’re doing

[2018-10-03T12:30:12Z] olso6229: Is there some way we can utilize voice with Danny’s project? Something that augments the experience? Like the idea we had to have a video loop projected on a wall/walls?

[2018-10-03T12:30:56Z] olso6229: How do you feel about that? Does the medium of voice excite you?

[2018-10-03T18:51:07Z] olso6229: Anyone else interested in going to this event? It's in Folwell Hall on Monday, November 5th at 4pm

[2018-10-03T18:54:26Z] olso6229: The title of the event itself seems compelling enough in relation to what we're doing. There's no event abstract up yet but I'll keep my eye on this one

[2018-10-03T19:50:39Z] olso6229: what did midway contemporary look like when you went? The gallery space only has paintings on one wall right now

[2018-10-03T19:50:54Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-03T19:51:09Z] batzl015: Yep!

[2018-10-03T19:51:43Z] batzl015: Also, I just put video of parts of the workshop on the drive

[2018-10-03T19:55:00Z] batzl015: Voice sounds really cool. I think t could be really cool for what we’re doing :+1::skin-tone-2:

[2018-10-03T20:00:50Z] mahla008: Insane book at Midway

[2018-10-03T20:01:09Z] mahla008: About prisoner abuse

[2018-10-03T21:44:17Z] olso6229: Whats going on with the prison playlist google doc? Can we make that a collaborative spotify playlist?

[2018-10-03T22:40:03Z] danks010: Ya that was mine Lee?

[2018-10-03T22:40:44Z] danks010: its suppose to be a collaborative playlist whereas anyone can add music that is prison related, maybe evokes ideas about prisons, etc.

[2018-10-03T22:41:51Z] olso6229: Is there a spotify set up? Or is it only a google doc right now?

[2018-10-03T22:43:21Z] danks010: Right now its just a google doc to document the songs, artists, and then I threw in some lyrics because I think it's important to understand the words and messages they are trying to evoke and or persuade others

[2018-10-03T22:48:28Z] danks010:

[2018-10-03T22:49:12Z] danks010:

[2018-10-03T22:49:30Z] danks010:

[2018-10-03T22:49:52Z] danks010:

[2018-10-03T22:50:17Z] olso6229: I have a different perspective on Yves Klein and Judo after reading through that book

[2018-10-03T22:50:48Z] olso6229: Tools of Disobedience was so simple but powerful

[2018-10-03T22:50:53Z] danks010: Some Lygia Clark Books at the Midway Contemporary Library! Good stuff there as well.

[2018-10-04T01:13:43Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-04T01:13:57Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-04T14:03:01Z] olson175:

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Pennsylvania Prisons Hired A Private Company To Intercept And Store Prisoners’ Mail

https://theappeal.org/pennsylvania-prisons-hired-a-private-company-to-intercept-and-store-prisoners-mail/

[2018-10-04T14:14:53Z] olso6229: What the f******k

[2018-10-04T14:14:56Z] olso6229: Hold on

[2018-10-04T14:22:49Z] olso6229: All mail to prisons in Pennsylvania gets routed through a private company in Florida

[2018-10-04T14:23:23Z] olso6229: The mail is scanned into a database, a photocopy is made and sent to the prison, and the original mail is destroyed

[2018-10-04T14:23:40Z] olso6229: "The DOC has also banned prisoners from receiving books from vendors—including book donation organizations like Books Through Bars. Instead, prisoners will have the option of paying for ebooks via tablets that cost over $147 each."

[2018-10-04T14:23:46Z] olso6229: >tablets that cost over $147 each

[2018-10-04T14:23:48Z] olso6229: HA

[2018-10-04T14:26:33Z] olso6229: The reason for this happening sounds like it was orchestrated by the Pennsylvania DOC

[2018-10-04T14:28:58Z] olso6229: “An incarcerated person may not want a private company to know about them and their family’s medical problems. They may not want a private company to know about grievances that they have."

[2018-10-04T14:29:16Z] olso6229: From Zeke Caliguiri we already know healthcare + medical access in prisons is a nightmare

[2018-10-04T14:40:55Z] olso6229: Oh man,

“This new policy is already having a chilling effect on how lawyers are communicating with their clients. Because legal mail is being opened and copied, attorney-client privilege is basically being ignored”

[2018-10-04T16:32:56Z] olso6229: Phillip Zimbardo

[2018-10-04T17:26:49Z] bialo011: ^his prison experiment was actually deeply flawed and widely regarded as being heavily biased. He basically set it up in a way where the guards where influenced to be more aggressive

[2018-10-04T17:42:46Z] olso6229: totally

[2018-10-04T17:43:47Z] olso6229: they definitely highlight that bias in him in the stanford prison experiment movie

[2018-10-04T17:45:27Z] olso6229: i think that incident could be valuable for us to look at, because we (maybe) are going to impact the space in a way where we want to encourage or suggest certain reactions (emotions, watcher/watched psychology shift, etc)

[2018-10-04T18:00:21Z] olso6229: WAIT, WOW

[2018-10-04T18:01:00Z] olso6229: A sign to push our video ideas ahead

[2018-10-04T18:01:34Z] olso6229: I had left off just before this paragraph in the Pennsylvania DOC article

[2018-10-04T18:01:36Z] olso6229: “Staff no longer are required to inspect each page for the presence of contraband, significantly reducing the time that staff handle or view privileged documents and allowing the inmate to receive the mail sooner. Finally, under the revised procedure, the entire transaction is recorded by video.”

[2018-10-04T18:02:08Z] olso6229: meta-recording

[2018-10-04T18:02:16Z] olso6229: i wonder if they have guards watching at the same time

[2018-10-04T18:02:17Z] danks010: My other idea came to me! I was thinking about the idea of freedom. We talked a lot about how prisoners are affected, what they lose, and I was thinking a lot about the idea of privacy or lack of privacy in prison. I think we often forget that privacy is a freedom and so I was curious of relating losing this privacy to the idea about observation. I'm not sure where I am headed with this idea, but just something I was thinking about......

[2018-10-04T18:13:34Z] danks010: Hey Matt, what was that video called with the prisoners chopping wood? It's been a while since I have seen it...I wanted to refresh my memory!

[2018-10-04T18:18:54Z] olso6229: take a look in today, are we set on the quotes? i think we need a better balance between men and women

[2018-10-04T18:19:50Z] olso6229: there are three quotes from that seems odd to me

[2018-10-04T18:19:58Z] renst011: The newsletter is already sent in for print but I added all of the quotes that were up before class today!

[2018-10-04T18:22:05Z] olso6229: ahhhh got it

[2018-10-04T18:22:57Z] olso6229: but thank you for crafting a wild zine with us!! :heart_eyes::rolled_up_newspaper:

[2018-10-04T18:28:44Z] batzl015: Yeah, I understand that they pertain to the class, but I think we already have Matt quotes in the writing he did for the first newsletter

[2018-10-04T18:29:03Z] batzl015: I think for the sake of diversity, we can leave those ones out

[2018-10-04T18:40:52Z] olso6229: Last section of the Pennsylvania DOC article:

[2018-10-04T18:43:15Z] olso6229: "The policy also bans educational programs and books donation programs. / Books Through Bars, a donation service that has operated in Pennsylvania for over 30 years, is protesting this change as censorship. Through the program, prisoners can request two or three free books every three months. / A “million books are published a year. The DOC is saying they’ll offer [about] 8,000 titles on e-readers,” [Keir Neuringer, a longtime volunteer with Books Through Bars, said.] “When you consider that those of us on the outside have access to millions and millions of titles. This policy cuts you out of such an enormous access to books.” Neuringer also stated that e-book tablets make it possible for the DOC to start monitoring what people were reading."

[2018-10-04T18:44:27Z] olso6229: I'm not going to read a million, much less 8,000, books in my lifetime

[2018-10-04T18:45:04Z] olso6229: My frame of mind on book access was changed already by us talking, and even more after reading this

[2018-10-04T18:45:51Z] olso6229: Yeah, all of us "on the outside" all have access to every coffee shop in the twin cities, but who cares?? It's a totally empty statement to me

[2018-10-04T19:00:09Z] boris: - might be this:

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no more, my lord

https://youtu.be/4Is6N4Q26Tc

[2018-10-04T19:01:58Z] danks010: Thanks Boris! This is exactly what I was looking for! :+1:

[2018-10-04T19:03:21Z] boris: note the sound of a chip striking the microphone towards the end

[2018-10-04T19:04:16Z] boris:

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Various - Negro Prison Songs

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Negro-Prison-Songs/release/1587237

[2018-10-04T19:04:41Z] boris: I have the record, maybe we should organize a listening session:)

[2018-10-04T19:04:45Z] olso6229: YES

[2018-10-04T19:05:52Z] danks010: I will definitely keep my ears peeled for it! Thanks again.

[2018-10-04T19:08:07Z] olso6229: Is there a turntable in the weisman? can we bring it down to the target gallery during our class? to see how our moods and ideas change with the addition of sound

[2018-10-04T19:08:54Z] danks010: YES! Great Idea...definitely would think it would change the space with some noise, especially with the vaulted ceilings bouncing the noise.

[2018-10-04T22:58:54Z] olson175: this is the largest user of prison labor in the state according to Danny...

[2018-10-04T23:49:49Z] batzl015: Whaaaaaaaaaat

[2018-10-04T23:50:02Z] karle029: lol the irony is 2 good

[2018-10-04T23:51:25Z] batzl015: Also everyone, meet up this weekend/Monday to discuss questions and principles of the book arrangement? I think best with others I think

[2018-10-04T23:51:52Z] olso6229: Aye aye

[2018-10-04T23:52:49Z] karle029: yeah i'm down

[2018-10-05T00:20:28Z] danks010: ill do my best to try to get there

[2018-10-05T01:19:40Z] fasbe023: I'm in

[2018-10-05T14:47:52Z] schra470: I only have one class Monday (11:15-12:30) so that sounds great to me

[2018-10-05T14:50:18Z] batzl015: Cool :+1::skin-tone-2:

[2018-10-05T15:11:04Z] schra470: Just remembered something I forgot to recommend yesterday during our short discussion on music! For all those who are curious about music, check out the “music” episode on a show called “explained” on Netflix. Super fascinating info on how humans understand and experience music unlike any other creature on earth. I think there is something to be said about how there’s no true way to explain how the human brain puts all the elements of music together and makes sense of it, and for that to cause an emotional reaction....just something to be curious about :thinking_face: Also, I’d recommend everyone just watch that show in general, every episode is super interesting and just makes you a little more knowledgeable about topics you may have never even thought about! And it comes out on a weekly basis, so you don’t run out of episodes to watch:slightly_smiling_face::v::skin-tone-2:

[2018-10-05T18:53:56Z] olso6229: cool ill check it out, whats the nutshell of how humans experience music differently??

[2018-10-05T18:55:09Z] olso6229: Is monday or sunday a better day to meet? Open invitation to everyone

[2018-10-05T18:57:03Z] schra470: Basically from what I remember, there are all these different aspects of music (pitch, rhythm, harmony, etc) that are exclusively detected by different species, but we actually use all of these together to hear music

[2018-10-05T18:57:31Z] schra470: Also, a fun fact was that we are one of the only creatures that can easily move to a beat, almost unconsciously

[2018-10-05T19:10:30Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-05T19:10:32Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-05T19:10:37Z] olso6229: Markus Miessen will be at Rapson this fall

[2018-10-05T19:11:28Z] olso6229: Monday, November 26th at 5pm in Rapson 100

[2018-10-05T19:23:15Z] mahla008: Omg it's that guy

[2018-10-05T19:33:11Z] olso6229: Lets invite him to the weisman

[2018-10-05T20:18:36Z] watso595: Zines in studio for the studio crawl!!

[2018-10-05T20:28:47Z] olso6229: SENSATIONAL

[2018-10-05T20:29:07Z] olso6229: Anyone going to the WAM many visions preview party tonight after studio crawl?

[2018-10-05T23:54:57Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-06T00:27:28Z] krieg087: Hey everyone!! I think I finally have my slack up and running again?? I'm realizing my comments from last weekend never posted when I thought they were (Sam I'm pretty positive the same thing was happening to me, as what happened to your slack a couple weeks ago). So for my assignment I'm going to need some volunteers, the more there are, the more powerful the project.

Looking at the idea of imprisonment, I want to do portraits of our studio group and give people the chance to just bear raw emotion and discuss heavy topics in a public way. The theme of each portrait will be the question asked personally "What am I imprisoned by?" My portrait will be about my disability and feeling imprisoned by my own body.

If you want to be a part of this feel free to like this message, contact me via Facebook message, email me at , shoot me a text, send a telegraph, or a tiny rolled up scroll delivered by a fox, or a note on a carrier pigeon.

[2018-10-06T00:43:04Z] batzl015: Just wrote a little thing on the interview I did with my mom about her teaching practice and her thoughts on Coccia’s writing. Here it is!

[2018-10-06T00:46:44Z] olso6229: Wow good timing, heres my mom interview for the zine too haha

[2018-10-06T00:51:59Z] olso6229: i'll also post this in newsletter media [edited file, latest version is in ]

[2018-10-06T00:52:10Z] olso6229: here's a PDF too

[2018-10-06T00:52:29Z] olso6229: im heading to WAM preview party now, but i'll read it this weekend

[2018-10-06T01:27:28Z] rumbe003:

[2018-10-06T01:27:31Z] rumbe003:

[2018-10-06T01:27:35Z] rumbe003:

[2018-10-06T01:28:10Z] rumbe003: Matt had me handwrite an interview with John Cage about collaboration, and to try and incorporate sketches relevant to Cage's life/work

[2018-10-06T01:28:15Z] rumbe003: So, here it is I guess!

[2018-10-06T01:30:29Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-06T01:30:33Z] mahla008: It's Poppin at the weisman

[2018-10-06T01:30:57Z] olso6229: Im on #slack mom

[2018-10-06T01:56:27Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-06T02:12:00Z] mahla008: Are we meeting Monday or was there a plan for a time this weekend?

[2018-10-06T18:15:26Z] watso595: I could meet monday

[2018-10-06T18:25:45Z] karle029: If this helps to figure out a time when people are all available :

[2018-10-06T18:26:29Z] karle029: updated notes

[2018-10-06T18:28:26Z] mahla008: Wow that's a cool tool

[2018-10-06T18:29:08Z] olso6229: Oooo ty

[2018-10-06T18:43:52Z] olso6229: I like this way more than doodle

[2018-10-06T18:43:58Z] olso6229: Filled my availability out

[2018-10-07T19:51:20Z] schra470:

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The end of American prison visits: jails end face-to-face contact – and families suffer

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/09/skype-for-jailed-video-calls-prisons-replace-in-person-visits

[2018-10-07T19:58:08Z] schra470: This is what Matt was talking about on Thursday when he briefly brought up switching from in-person visits to video chats in prison. Not only is stripping away an inmates ability to have face to face contact unethical in my opinion, the fact that a person has to pay $13 for a 20 minute, glitching conversation is absurd. I personally believe nobody should ever profit off of crime and incarceration, but here is YET ANOTHER way in which someone is filling their pockets at the expense of others. It is sad. Also, I know this is nothing like being separated by incarceration, but being somebody who uses video chat almost daily to connect with my partner who lives in a different city, I can easily say there is so much lacking in a conversation that happens over a screen, vs in person contact. This is just sad.

[2018-10-07T22:54:36Z] rumbe003: Crazy... the prison phone industry is valued at 1.2 billion dollars a year! That's insane!

[2018-10-07T22:54:54Z] rumbe003: Monopolizing human rights

[2018-10-07T22:58:34Z] rumbe003: Are there any question that people might have about prisons and the architecture of prisons and how design might be used as a strategy in prisons? Or anything along those lines? I'm going into BWBR tomorrow for an informational interview and I know that one of the architects that I'm meeting with has a large body of work in prison design, so I plan on picking his brain a little bit

[2018-10-08T12:31:19Z] batzl015: Meet later today? Also does anyone know how to play piano/have access to a piano?

[2018-10-08T12:53:37Z] olso6229: you could open up a DAW like garageband or logic on your laptop and use a keyboard piano :musical_keyboard:

[2018-10-08T13:40:25Z] olso6229: aside from the 1st floor piano in coffman, there are pianos by the whole and upstairs around the president’s room

[2018-10-08T13:41:01Z] olso6229: There might be one in the lind hall library still

[2018-10-08T13:42:58Z] watso595: It looks like around 4 today might be a good time to meet?

[2018-10-08T13:44:54Z] olso6229: I could jam with a four

[2018-10-08T13:45:35Z] batzl015: 4 works for me!

[2018-10-08T14:56:55Z] olso6229: Just had a chat at work with our digital comms director, she pitched the idea of having me do a U of M alumni association instagram takeover for like a week. Im thinking it could be a good way to promote wecolab/weisman/danny’s project/BDA

Thoughts?

[2018-10-08T15:10:38Z] schra470: Yes!!

[2018-10-08T15:11:10Z] schra470: Also I can meet at 4 too :grin: BDA studio?

[2018-10-08T15:13:30Z] watso595: Yeah let’s meet in studio, there’ll be some classes going on but I think it could be good to discuss wecolab stuff around other BDA students since they aren’t able to see what we do as much

[2018-10-08T19:36:23Z] schra470: turned the google docs prison playlist into a spotify playlist for easier listening! Added a few of my own songs and made it collaborative, so if you have spotify, add away!

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Prison

https://open.spotify.com/user/1247497233/playlist/1v3SH9dyKt3X5ZAsuBBy4T?si=9LeF9BMGSx-bOm21bdswOQ

[2018-10-08T20:10:57Z] schra470: Artist Trent Bell created this very moving project in 2014 called "REFLECT Project" which basically consists of portraits of prisoners with letters to their past selves surrounding them....Powerful stuff that may give insight into the personal more human side of this project. Here's a link to the images:

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Reflect Portrait of Wes

https://www.trentbell.com/REFLECT-Project/prisoners/1

[2018-10-08T21:59:02Z] schra470: Lee and Oliver’s Collaborative transportation

[2018-10-08T22:01:51Z] karle029: bad news ppl

[2018-10-08T22:02:13Z] karle029: weismann is closed on mondays apparently

[2018-10-08T22:02:26Z] schra470: OMG NO

[2018-10-08T22:02:34Z] watso595: Oh no

[2018-10-08T22:03:03Z] schra470: Sasha are you still there

[2018-10-08T22:03:09Z] karle029: yes

[2018-10-08T22:15:30Z] schra470: If anyone who’s free wants to come to the wood workshop we are here!

[2018-10-09T14:23:45Z] schra470: Our prototype is being carted

[2018-10-09T18:26:24Z] olso6229: about NY book art fair

[2018-10-09T18:26:28Z] olso6229: i've mentioned moon palace books before

[2018-10-09T18:26:56Z] olso6229: moon palce is drawing from NY book art fair

[2018-10-09T18:27:46Z] olso6229: i can also see threads to the NY book art fair from this years Autoptic in downtown

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Autoptic 2018 / Aug. 19, 2018 / MPLS, MN

https://autoptic.org/

[2018-10-09T18:28:21Z] olso6229: beautiful place too, Aria

[2018-10-10T00:23:10Z] olso6229: Jakob colten and i are communicating with Jennifer at the MN Prison Writing Workshop. I can copy or summarize her email for you all, she’s been a great help to us so far. Does anyone have any questions or thoughts they want to have us translate over to her?

[2018-10-10T00:24:21Z] olso6229: The prison workshop also hosts a public reading event called Beyond Bars, which i think we all need to go to

[2018-10-10T00:24:41Z] olso6229: Jennifer was gracious and invited us all there

[2018-10-10T00:25:43Z] olso6229: It’ll be at Hamline this month

[2018-10-10T00:25:47Z] olso6229:

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Beyond Bars: A Public Reading - October 22, 2016, 7:00pm

https://www.mnprisonwriting.org/mpww-public-reading.html

[2018-10-10T00:28:09Z] olso6229: As far as book donations, we’re getting copies of the gift and how can i help? I mean, really, imagine the WARDEN holding copies of those books in their hands and deciding if they get in. That’s wild to me :face_with_cowboy_hat:

[2018-10-10T00:32:16Z] olso6229: and I also have some info to unpack and communicate to y’all

[2018-10-10T00:33:03Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-10T00:33:52Z] olso6229: We just found this earlier tonight

[2018-10-10T00:36:01Z] olso6229: In tune with ’s conversation with BWBR. Also, Sam, did the people you talk to at BWBR have a weird attitude about being a firm that has designed prisons? Were they embarrassed, was there a stigma attached to it, were they neutral or happy about it? Curious what their feeling towards it are

[2018-10-10T00:40:52Z] danks010: Super interested in exploring some of the ideas regarding a study by Laura Kurgan that mentioned above. and I are applying some of the things we learned in WeCoLab to a research project in another class.

[2018-10-10T00:41:44Z] danks010: You might need to give me a recap of the Beyond Bars Lecture if you go. I have class on Monday nights so I can't make it. Really wish I could go though.

[2018-10-10T02:56:57Z] olso6229: Anyone have time for a library visit tomorrow 2pm?

[2018-10-10T03:42:02Z] olso6229: We have room for 1 more to come with

[2018-10-10T03:42:16Z] olso6229: In coltens car anyway

[2018-10-10T03:42:42Z] olso6229: We’re going to MCAD / MIA at 2pm

[2018-10-10T03:43:57Z] olso6229: If you have time, you should meet up and check it out with us all! :bat:

[2018-10-10T17:25:40Z] olson175: could you guys bring some wecolabs and try to place them? especially using your new awareness of etiquette :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-10-10T17:25:55Z] olson175: newsletters that is

[2018-10-10T17:27:02Z] mahla008: where can we get the newsletters? Is there more in studio?

[2018-10-10T17:27:48Z] watso595: In the arch office, in a box

[2018-10-10T17:27:59Z] watso595: Mahva can tell you if you can’t find the box

[2018-10-10T17:30:34Z] schra470: can I come to the library today!?

[2018-10-10T17:32:13Z] mahla008: Cool cool pwatts

[2018-10-10T17:51:43Z] schra470: Shelves have been moved from our original cluster...interesting observation, wonder how this will affect the view from the window

[2018-10-10T17:55:43Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-10T17:55:46Z] mahla008: I bet it was this guy who moved them

[2018-10-10T18:25:23Z] olso6229: Let’s come up with some locations to group up outside of the Weisman for tomorrow:

[2018-10-10T18:25:44Z] olso6229: The graduate hotel lobby

[2018-10-10T18:26:24Z] olso6229: Nanotech building 2nd or 3rd floor

[2018-10-10T18:26:29Z] mahla008: ?

[2018-10-10T18:27:11Z] olso6229: Didn’t we say that we would think of places to meet with Danny outside of WAM tomorrow?

[2018-10-10T18:27:17Z] olso6229: Or did that get scrapped?

[2018-10-10T18:27:57Z] schra470: Graduate hotel lobby :heart_eyes: most comfortable seating

[2018-10-10T18:28:31Z] batzl015: I think it would be cool to meet outside of WAM or Rapson

[2018-10-10T18:28:49Z] batzl015: Maybe a room in Bruninks? I’m not sure

[2018-10-10T18:29:26Z] olso6229: Bruininks feels sterile IMO, the lobby areas facing the river is nice

[2018-10-10T18:29:31Z] mahla008: I thought we were just meeting in a different room of the weismann

[2018-10-10T18:29:39Z] mahla008: Cause we couldn't decide

[2018-10-10T18:30:00Z] olso6229: I thought that was for the first half before we meet Danny

[2018-10-10T18:31:53Z] mahla008: :thinking_face:

[2018-10-10T18:33:08Z] olso6229: the merge records bit in your email is really throwin me off

[2018-10-10T18:33:25Z] olso6229: Your friends know how to pick em

[2018-10-10T18:35:00Z] olso6229: about the book rearrangement, see ’s photo/message above. Seems like someone outside of our class did it? As far as i know, we left then placed neatly on the carts, which were clustered by the window

[2018-10-10T18:37:51Z] olso6229: We will distribute some magazines to MCAD + MIA today. Light Grey Art Lab is across the street from MCAD, maybe we can drop some off there.

[2018-10-10T19:09:21Z] olso6229: you still wanna come with?

[2018-10-10T19:10:22Z] schra470: Yes! I’ve been in contact with Colten, we good

[2018-10-10T19:10:29Z] olso6229: Sweet

[2018-10-10T19:10:36Z] olso6229: Jakob and i will come down to HGA

[2018-10-10T23:04:44Z] olso6229: we’ve got some cool news to pass on from our library visit today !!

[2018-10-10T23:05:41Z] olso6229: We’ll explain tomorrow :scorpion::basketball:

[2018-10-11T01:17:45Z] feria006: Matt asked me to share this manifesto by Jason Rens an individual not so characterized by his designs as much as the individual aspects of craft and emotion that they evoke. I looked into Rens further and discovered a couple interview in which he got into many of the topics/issues we are facing now. First, he talks about materials as letters in the alphabet, how when in the right combination and order they can make words, sentences and eventually language. I think this could be something to consider as we move forward in to making something.

[2018-10-11T01:21:26Z] feria006: Second, his thoughts on collaboration. Most of his projects involving collaborating across many different professions, mediums and ideologies. I think going forward we should use his manifesto in order to keep our ideas evolving and thus making the product much more evoking.

[2018-10-11T02:03:29Z] olson175: He's a friend so, if we wanna Skype with him or something, it'd be easy. (He might even say he learned some of this stuff from me?!) :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-10-11T07:54:53Z] olso6229: Highlights from 's interview with architects @ BWBR about prison design. Posting for Sam because his Slack has toys in the attic

[2018-10-11T07:54:56Z] olso6229: -In their eyes, prison design has become much LESS oppressive over the last 10-15 years.. more space is being provided for inmates in cells and in common areas, more focus is being put towards ventilation of the prison, circulation within the prison to best suite the prisoners, etc. I found that to be interesting because I see it as a sign of positive change and motion(hopefully).

-These designers/architects talked me through some design strategies that they use. In each prison, they strive for two things: Calmness and Security. How do these things mix and match? Security is such a tension-inducing word, calmness is the opposite. They aim to provide abundant amounst of daylight into qualifying areas of the prisons, as well as the use of acoustic materials on the walls and in corners of larger areas. Since there are so many hard surfaces in prisons, sounds bounces everywhere, especially when tensions are high and there is lots of yelling. I found this to be especially interesting, especially in light of our recent discussions regarding sound, and sound as a free and endless resource.

-Perhaps most importantly, they encouraged me to think of prison as a city. This I found to be incredibly thought provoking. Society always constructs this image of "real life" and the city life as one thing, and then prisons as an entirely different world/concept. In reality, prisons have stores, economies, transportations systems, postal services, recreational opportunities, educational facilities, etc. Many components to the cities that free citizens live in and understand! I think we could be more productive moving forward if we also thought of prisons as miniature cities, instead of thinking of them as other-worldly. We may be able to empathize more efficiently with prisoners and find more humanity in our humility.

[2018-10-11T07:57:29Z] olso6229: ++ in the morning let's all talk about meeting outside of WAM for the back half of class

[2018-10-11T18:13:28Z] feria006: Just a spark from the meeting with Danny today, he talked a lot of statistics of the people in jail (all family member, half parents, third with mental illness) an idea for redacting our readings could be using those percentages for the percent of the reading, skipping pages or words to raise awareness to the types of people that are in this system

[2018-10-11T18:19:10Z] olso6229: Damn, good observation , i totally missed that. I did pick up on Danny being into incorporating the number of balloons that a prisoner would pack for single shipping into something we make. Ideas?

[2018-10-11T18:23:06Z] olso6229: Overview from today with Danny:

- balloons :balloon: + handing out to people, incorporated with the target gallery space, something that gets handed out at the event? during the sleep conversation event, people were given pillows, pillow cases, and sewing kits to make at home, as an activity to help them fall asleep. Create a giant pikachu balloon glob at the WAM entry

[2018-10-11T18:24:00Z] olso6229: - evoke prison visitation environment. Rows/benches of seats where people face each other

[2018-10-11T18:24:40Z] olso6229: ^^ tie boris’ interview with robert irwin + habitability symposium into the way we think about this

[2018-10-11T18:25:46Z] olso6229: (Cool note, boris is generating a habitability symposium in 2020 here. Also, jennifer newsom + dream the combine will be the artists in residence at WAM next academic year)

[2018-10-11T18:27:20Z] olso6229: you should talk to jennifer about Spooky Architecture. She did a guest lecture in one of my classes on Halloween last year dressed as a witch.

[2018-10-11T18:28:47Z] olso6229: - directional lines on the floor. Tape may ruin the floor, try paint instead. Will people have a weird psychological obstacle of crossing a painted line on the floor?

[2018-10-11T18:30:59Z] olso6229: How that evokes control, restriction, authority, order, rules, manufacturing inaccessibility, obscuring. We don’t know what we don’t know

[2018-10-11T18:37:14Z] olso6229: - play handball as a performance? Activity outside of WAM to stop people on the street. Something we do during the workshop artist talk? Something filmed or photographed and gets projected into the space?

[2018-10-11T18:38:07Z] olso6229: - will WAM allow concrete or cinderblocks?

[2018-10-11T18:40:43Z] olso6229: - how can we use sound? Start recording books on tape. Redact audio - distort audio, censor with SFX, dont record certain words/topics/passages/etc. Is the redaction explicit or hidden? A false transparency? People wouldn’t know what they don’t know.

[2018-10-11T18:45:59Z] olso6229: - about materials, danny mentioned blue-gray enamel paint

[2018-10-11T18:47:12Z] olso6229: - can we see if the U of M has a banned books list?

[2018-10-11T18:47:38Z] olso6229: How does that list overlap, align, conflict, surprise us when compared to DOC lists?

[2018-10-11T18:49:16Z] olso6229: A reminder: MN Prison Writing Workshop’s Beyond Bars event is at Hamline next Saturday, October 20 at 7 PM – 9 PM

[2018-10-11T18:50:18Z] olso6229: The event is free and Jennifer from the program has warmly and graciously invited us all to attend

[2018-10-11T18:51:47Z] danks010: That Spooky Architecture lecture your talking about is really interesting, besides the point that it doesn't relate to this project

[2018-10-11T18:52:13Z] olso6229: In what ways does it not?

[2018-10-11T18:53:18Z] danks010: I suppose I would have to reflect more on it. That's a good question for me to explore.

[2018-10-11T19:01:32Z] danks010:

[2018-10-11T19:01:51Z] danks010:

[2018-10-11T19:04:00Z] danks010: Here was a few collages I had been working on to build ways to express ideas by storytelling. I realize after todays meeting that these may be irrelevant but the goal behind them was try to evoke ideas of viewing the space. However, I am keeping this on the back burner to allow other ideas to be generated.

[2018-10-11T19:11:40Z] olso6229: Thank you for sharing !!

[2018-10-11T19:12:22Z] olso6229: Markus Miessen will be in Rapson on November 26th.

He's the Principle Architect of Studio Miessen in Germany, which is self-described as a "decentrally-organized group of architects, designers, and researchers interested in the deployment of Critical Spatial Practice as a methodology. They collaboratively work and consult on projects that include spatial design, strategic frameworks, research, curatorial and discursive activities."

They also say they "work closely with artists, who we assist to realize small-to-large-scale spatial ideas and support them in realizing exhibitions and large-scale institutional shows. Our work also includes self-initiated activities and projects that span from physical construction to writing and criticism. Our practice is based on dialogue."

Sounds familiar. :slightly_smiling_face:

If Markus is here on the day before or after that Monday, we should invite him to WAM, talk with him, other ideas?

[2018-10-11T19:13:54Z] danks010: Most definitely agree.

[2018-10-11T19:13:57Z] olso6229: - here are some photos of Danny's work that I was referencing today:

[2018-10-11T19:16:52Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-11T19:48:11Z] olso6229: I've scheduled my office Instagram takeover for the week of Danny's workshop/conversation in November

[2018-10-11T19:49:46Z] olso6229: Following from our discussion on how to escape architectural material traps, here's a recent solo exhibition from MCAD faculty member Kate Casanova. This was at Public Functionary this August

[2018-10-11T19:49:47Z] olso6229:

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Body Works: Kate Casanova at Public Functionary

https://www.mplsart.com/written/2018/08/body-works-kate-casanova-at-public-functionary/

[2018-10-11T20:33:44Z] olson175: here's the guys I work with for context, you might even recognize some universal patterns and forms?

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Sober path out of prison in jeopardy

http://www.startribune.com/sober-path-out-of-prison-in-jeopardy/122632424/

[2018-10-11T23:42:09Z] karle029: could you add your notes to the google doc pls:)

[2018-10-12T01:16:31Z] karle029: ‼️ please fill out your availability !! ‼️

[2018-10-12T01:18:12Z] mahla008: ^^^^^^^^

[2018-10-12T03:16:42Z] olso6229: i would love to :heart:

[2018-10-12T03:32:44Z] olso6229: I've restructured the google notes document

[2018-10-12T03:32:47Z] olso6229: and added notes from today

[2018-10-12T03:34:34Z] olso6229: I've changed the chronology to descending dates, that way most recent meetings have higher visibility

[2018-10-12T03:36:59Z] olso6229: So a few of us visited MCAD/MIA this week. After talking to the librarians there, we found out MIA hosted an event during BANNED BOOKS WEEK at the end of September titled "Don't Read This! Don't See This! : Censorship and the Creative Truth of Words and Art"

[2018-10-12T03:41:30Z] olso6229: We passed over a few copies of the WeCoLab zine to the librarians to give to program/department heads and directors. We also exchanged contact info, and will stay in touch. I asked Danny if he's interested in connecting with MIA and will follow up on that with him

[2018-10-12T03:42:34Z] olso6229: Sam's BWBR interview summary is also on the doc

[2018-10-12T03:44:09Z] olso6229: Does anyone want to take a trip to Moon Palace Books together? If you want to experience the NY book art fair approach firsthand, that place is a great resource

[2018-10-12T05:21:54Z] olso6229: Anyone have time for a library visit next Monday or Wednesday afternoon?

[2018-10-12T07:32:00Z] olso6229:

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The Voice Behind Many Bestselling Books On Tape Is Actually That of An Infamous Serial Killer

https://www.shared.com/serial-killer-audio-books/

[2018-10-12T07:32:29Z] olso6229: Kemper murdered several people, including his paternal grandparents and mother

[2018-10-12T07:32:43Z] olso6229: He was also a necrophiliac

[2018-10-12T07:33:05Z] olso6229: Bits from the article:

[2018-10-12T07:33:07Z] olso6229: "From 1977 to 1987, Kemper had spent over 5,000 hours in the recording booth and had more than four million feet of tape and several hundred books to his credit"

[2018-10-12T07:33:11Z] olso6229: “I can’t begin to tell you what this has meant to me, to be able to do something constructive for someone else, to be appreciated by so many people, the good feeling it gives me after what I have done,” Kemper said.

[2018-10-12T07:35:07Z] olso6229: He is currently serving 8 concurrent life sentences in California

[2018-10-12T07:37:45Z] olso6229:

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Imgur

https://imgur.com/xzWBeyL

[2018-10-12T07:37:56Z] olso6229: Is there something we can do with the essence of inmate IDs?

[2018-10-12T07:38:30Z] olso6229:

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Ed Kemper Interview - 1991 (extended)

https://youtu.be/j8IfslxOmF0

[2018-10-12T07:44:27Z] olso6229: This is wild, imagine this: this video is an interview of Ed Kemper by French writer Stéphane Bourgoin.

In 1976, Bourgoin discovered his girlfriend Eileen, "killed, raped and cut into pieces" in their apartment in Los Angeles, California.

Since 1979, Bourgoin has interviewed 77 different serial killers.

[2018-10-12T14:08:55Z] mahla008: reposting cause we only got half the studio rn

[2018-10-12T14:11:13Z] olso6229: it takes like 10 seconds to fill out on your phone :)

[2018-10-12T16:25:31Z] mahla008: Are the only people still needing to do the when to meet, but so far only half of us could meet tonight. Alot of us could do saturday morning, half on sunday, and most of us monday evening

[2018-10-12T17:39:43Z] rumbe003: I am out of town at a family wedding all weekend so my only day I can meet is Monday evening

[2018-10-12T17:39:52Z] rumbe003: as I just put into the thing

[2018-10-12T18:05:10Z] olso6229: Sweet thanks for the heads up sam!

[2018-10-12T18:07:25Z] batzl015: just updated it!

[2018-10-12T19:26:41Z] olso6229: Thank you Pangolin

[2018-10-12T19:36:38Z] santo204: Sorry for the delay, I filled out the when 2 meet now

[2018-10-12T20:00:44Z] mahla008: Would we want to meet Saturday morning and then maybe Sunday night? And if we have to Monday night?

[2018-10-12T20:02:23Z] batzl015: I dig that

[2018-10-12T20:02:54Z] mahla008: And then maybe after the proposal we could maybe break into teams for certain projects for the 14th so it's easier for people to meet in those groups?

[2018-10-12T20:07:13Z] watso595: I could meet tomorrow morning! I like that plan

[2018-10-12T20:07:26Z] olso6229: Agree im into it

[2018-10-12T20:36:18Z] schra470: Spotted in the bathroom at St. Croix state park :eyes:

[2018-10-13T00:05:31Z] danks010: Nice find.

[2018-10-13T00:06:49Z] olso6229: See yall tomorrow around 9 am in rapson!

[2018-10-13T15:44:27Z] watso595: Hey , we're working on drafting a project proposal and want to know if we're thinking about two separate projects (one for nov. 14th and the other for dec 11th), or if we want to have all of our ideas done by the artist talk on nov. 14th?

[2018-10-13T15:45:29Z] mahla008: I vote Nov 14th all ideas

[2018-10-13T15:46:00Z] watso595: I wonder about what we do after nov. 14th if we have all the projects done by then

[2018-10-13T15:46:04Z] olso6229: I vote duo/concurrent projects

[2018-10-13T15:48:40Z] fasbe023: Duo/concurrent

[2018-10-13T16:10:25Z] : has a poll for you!

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Hey @everyone, we're working on drafting a project proposal and want to know if we're thinking about two separate projects (one for nov. 14th and the other for dec 11th), or if we want to have all of our ideas done by the artist talk on nov. 14th?

[2018-10-13T16:22:10Z] batzl015: I’ll be in around noon to work with y’all

[2018-10-13T16:48:32Z] schra470: Unfortunately I’m out of town today so I won’t be able to come help, but I will be available on Sunday night and Monday to help continue the project

[2018-10-13T16:52:11Z] mahla008: We will have a second meeting Sunday night, time to be decided later, we got a good start today and Parker and a few others will be forming a draft of the proposal to be edited and finalized tomorrow for matt

[2018-10-13T17:10:29Z] batzl015: Where are y’all?

[2018-10-13T17:10:37Z] batzl015: Did you finish up already?

[2018-10-13T17:11:21Z] olso6229: I left, but we set up a google doc draft for the project proposal :ok_hand::ok_hand:

[2018-10-13T17:11:36Z] batzl015: Ok, sounds good

[2018-10-13T17:11:40Z] batzl015: Sorry I couldn’t make it

[2018-10-13T17:12:21Z] olso6229: No problem, see you tomorrow?

[2018-10-13T17:16:09Z] batzl015: Yep!

[2018-10-13T18:43:54Z] olson175: great to see motion/enthusiasm! Nice job you guys. Just a reminder - maybe you're already doing this but - I encourage you to move all things forward at the same time... so discussions about dates are important but until we know more about what we're going to do, it's hard to make those decisions meaningful? I always try to keep as many variables in the air and moving with me as long as I can. The variables I can see now are: built objects (design, iterations, and prototyping may be necessary), policies the Weisman and Boris have that might affect those objects/designs, budgets and the necessity to get Gayla and Boris's approval, shop time and project planning, material considerations, de-installation and disposal/recycling at the end of the project, new ideas that will emerge as we move... so make sure you visit these things if you haven't! What am I forgetting? And let me know "how can I help" :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-10-13T18:44:16Z] rumbe003: Sorry I couldn't make it either, thank for doing that you guys! Exciting stuff!

[2018-10-13T22:50:26Z] watso595: Hey Matt, do you have any examples of project proposals or things like that your firm has made? might be useful as reference while we start to think about all these variables and work on the first draft of ours

[2018-10-14T00:40:37Z] olson175: as part of our attitude about 'open practice' we don't participate in competitions or RFPs so formal, written proposals have been rare in my work. We pretty much only work with people who approach us and never really seek work. But I'd be happy to talk you guys through a few projects on Tuesday to explain how they've come to life. Let me know.

[2018-10-14T14:41:23Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-14T14:42:25Z] olso6229: We should donate these books at Beyond Bars!

[2018-10-14T14:54:11Z] olso6229: Also, a few of us are going to the center for book arts + library in downtown minneapolis on monday afternoon. Open invitation to join us! :books::slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-10-14T16:37:37Z] mahla008: just a reminder that we are meeting from 3-5 in the the BDA studio today

[2018-10-14T16:45:41Z] olso6229: I’ll be there!

[2018-10-14T19:52:20Z] santo204: I’ll be working in the Rapson laser lab from 3-10, so if someone wants to come fill me or work on scale models of any concepts let me know

[2018-10-14T19:53:12Z] mahla008: Np abe I'll fill you in when you come in and we will come by the lab and get ur help

[2018-10-14T20:47:00Z] fasbe023:

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Joe Rogan Experience #1171 - Nick Yarris

https://youtu.be/AIc5XYpRc1M

[2018-10-15T16:46:05Z] schra470: Where are we meeting up for today’s field trip?

[2018-10-15T16:46:35Z] olso6229: BDA studio, then we’ll walk to the greenline station together

[2018-10-15T16:46:53Z] watso595: Meeting at 1?

[2018-10-15T16:46:57Z] olso6229: Yes

[2018-10-15T21:33:59Z] batzl015: Move.

Some good advise from a zine I found at the Center for the Book Arts. Everyone should check this place out!

[2018-10-15T21:34:05Z] batzl015:

[2018-10-15T22:06:38Z] danks010: Wish I could have made it...Unfortunately I had class! Lol We have permission to skip class in favor of doing work for WeCoLab?

[2018-10-15T22:18:17Z] olson175: does move mean physical or conceptual?

[2018-10-15T23:29:53Z] batzl015: I think both

[2018-10-16T14:23:33Z] feria006:

Vice Article about prison handball. Many inmates talk about how the game play resembles life in prison.

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Handball Saved My Life: A Sport Behind Bars

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp7yyv/handball-saved-my-life-a-sport-behind-bars

[2018-10-16T14:46:40Z] fasbe023: A video to help understand what andy goldsworthy does

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Rivers and Tides- Andy Goldsworthy

https://youtu.be/f7sZv4_0Fxg

[2018-10-16T18:01:22Z] danks010: I have your sketchbook...you left it at the Weisman so I'll bring it to our meeting tomorrow.

[2018-10-16T19:26:10Z] mahla008: I bought batteries for the laser if you want to use it for measuring, if ur in rapson rn I can give it to ya or find a time to give it to you

[2018-10-16T19:28:37Z] fasbe023: Abe and I found this at the minneapolis central library

[2018-10-16T19:55:49Z] watso595: do you have the measurements of the space yet? does someone need to get an email to Boris?

[2018-10-16T20:32:00Z] santo204: Library visit

[2018-10-16T20:32:37Z] santo204: Happy Librarian

[2018-10-16T22:43:54Z] olso6229: The notes from today’s meeting are on the Google document. I organized everything we talked about into categories. There are plenty of ideas for each group to develop

[2018-10-16T22:47:45Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-16T22:50:23Z] batzl015: I will share a budget and material spreadsheet that I made earlier today with everyone tonight. It’s a list of possible materials, equipment, and costs that we can pull from when choosing our materials. Please take some time to take a look. I think we should have it filled out by tomorrow night at the latest. Keep the stoke high! :+1::skin-tone-2:

[2018-10-17T12:12:07Z] olso6229: the spreadsheet looks great, thanks for getting that started

[2018-10-17T20:31:42Z] santo204: & are we still meeting in the BDA studio?

[2018-10-17T20:32:38Z] karle029: weisman

[2018-10-17T20:54:51Z] schra470: Hey guys, just shared with you all an “observation log” that the guard gang is going to work on as the space changes. We will primarily add to it, but if you find yourself observing in your free time, feel free to log your findings on this doc!

[2018-10-18T03:54:06Z] batzl015: Great work filling out the materials spreadsheet y’all!

[2018-10-18T03:54:51Z] batzl015: We still need to fill the video and audio section, so if anyone has done research on that, please put it in the spreadsheet so we can discuss feasibility tomorrow!

[2018-10-18T15:07:22Z] kesse046: This is a simplistic shell of the space, feel free to request the addition of details we will need

[2018-10-18T16:27:07Z] batzl015: A used prison bench…

[2018-10-18T16:28:54Z] batzl015:

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Barker Built® Replacement Seat, Stainless | Jail and Correctional Supplies

https://www.bobbarker.com/replacement-seat-stainless.html

[2018-10-18T18:06:52Z] schra470: Here’s my really REALLY rough sketch from today if we wanna run with the idea of a slant

[2018-10-18T18:09:39Z] batzl015: I think I need more time to work over slants :thinking_face: I don’t know how that functions with the redaction of books that we were passionate about earlier

[2018-10-18T18:52:59Z] mahla008: I think there can be room for both, books on display and book redaction

[2018-10-18T19:36:41Z] batzl015: I totally agree

[2018-10-18T19:37:01Z] batzl015: We should be intentional about how those things relate though

[2018-10-18T19:37:31Z] batzl015: Maybe they’re the same, like redacted and displayed

[2018-10-18T21:55:34Z] feria006: I think the slant is super dope. #slantgang

[2018-10-19T00:25:34Z] olson175: could there be lighting under the benchs?

[2018-10-19T03:35:12Z] kesse046: Here's a quick model of a bench in Sketchup. 12 benches will cost ~$315 (including tax.) I looked on the Home Depot website and found the 2x4s (8' long) are $2.59 per piece and the 4'x8'x3/4" plywood is $20.07 per piece. It will take a total of 20 8' long 2x4's, and 12 sheets of plywood to construct all 12. The bench's dimensions are 1 1/2' x 1 1/2' x 8'

[2018-10-19T03:36:00Z] kesse046: This design is modeled off of Haley's design

[2018-10-19T03:36:08Z] kesse046:

[2018-10-19T19:08:39Z] mahla008: The gift and How Can I Help is on its way to the wardens office in stillwater

[2018-10-19T20:53:05Z] olso6229: Thank you !!

[2018-10-19T21:31:13Z] mahla008: Very cool!

[2018-10-19T23:03:33Z] olso6229: On display at All Square

[2018-10-19T23:44:16Z] olso6229: Bob Marley — I Shot the Sheriff was playing while we ate

[2018-10-19T23:50:44Z] olso6229: Quick info about All Square:

[2018-10-19T23:50:53Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-20T14:26:39Z] olso6229: Who all is coming to Beyond Bars tonight with , , and me?

[2018-10-20T14:45:27Z] batzl015: I don’t think I can come through :( My parents are in the cities tonight and I should spend time with them. I will work on getting some stuff seriously ideated for our big meeting tomorrow :+1::skin-tone-2:

[2018-10-20T14:45:55Z] batzl015: Let us know how beyond bars goes though! Report back!

[2018-10-20T18:11:41Z] krieg087: I'm coming! Is there someone driving?

[2018-10-20T23:32:04Z] olso6229: What’s the situation with the WeCoLab tumblr? Is it good to go? I feel like we haven’t heard about it for a while now

[2018-10-20T23:32:18Z] olso6229: Also do we have everything for zine #2?

[2018-10-21T01:23:17Z] olso6229: We need to do something with MPWW, moon palace, and/or free black dirt for the artist talk or beyond in WAM

[2018-10-21T02:42:09Z] olso6229: Holy shit wow, the MPWW event broke my heart and made me laugh hysterically and everything inbetween

[2018-10-21T02:42:51Z] olso6229: We connected with Jen of MPWW and Erin + Janauda of Free Black Dirt

[2018-10-21T02:43:17Z] olso6229: Would love to get them involved somehow

[2018-10-21T13:25:56Z] olso6229: Just got off the phone with Janauda

[2018-10-21T13:27:31Z] olso6229: such an awesome woman

[2018-10-21T13:32:20Z] batzl015: :+1::skin-tone-2::+1::skin-tone-2: amazing lee

[2018-10-21T13:32:58Z] batzl015: Hope to hear more and see where this relationship takes us!

[2018-10-21T13:51:13Z] olso6229: Who all is meeting today?

[2018-10-21T16:15:02Z] watso595: I will be

[2018-10-21T16:15:30Z] batzl015: Me!

[2018-10-21T16:15:40Z] batzl015: What time are we doing?

[2018-10-21T16:21:27Z] mahla008: 5:00 is when most people can meet but we can start a little bit earlier

[2018-10-21T16:28:48Z] olso6229: I will meet earlier

[2018-10-21T16:29:04Z] olso6229: Notes from thursday are up on the google doc !

[2018-10-21T16:29:30Z] batzl015: I’ll be in there at 2ish

[2018-10-21T16:47:15Z] danks010: Please keep me posted how it's going. I'll try to put in some work on my end with some sketches/iterations/elaborating on ideas. Apologize I can't make it down.

[2018-10-21T19:00:46Z] mahla008: If you in rapson there's a mini meeting in the laser lab

[2018-10-21T19:01:10Z] batzl015: Maybe 3ish, I got bad sleep last night

[2018-10-21T19:01:34Z] batzl015: Bottom line, I’ll be there before 5

[2018-10-21T19:01:49Z] watso595: All good

[2018-10-21T22:38:17Z] mahla008: We all in the woodshop if your late to the meeting

[2018-10-22T03:44:42Z] watso595: Notes from today’s meeting are in the doc!

[2018-10-22T03:52:50Z] olso6229: Thank you

[2018-10-23T01:37:31Z] olso6229: We should reach out to Emily Hunt Turner

[2018-10-23T01:37:41Z] olso6229: She's the founder of the All Square institute + restaurant

[2018-10-23T01:37:50Z] olso6229: Weird energy in relation to all of us, she's trained as an architect

[2018-10-23T01:39:22Z] olso6229: But mainly practices in public policy as a civil rights attorney

[2018-10-23T02:01:51Z] olso6229:

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Prison Life in Scandinavia - Discover Scandinavia

https://www.dailyscandinavian.com/prison-life-in-scandinavia/

[2018-10-23T02:02:17Z] olso6229: >_Based on figures, it’s safe to assume Norway’s criminal justice system is doing something right. Few citizens there go to prison, and those who do usually go only once. So how does Scandinavia accomplish this feat? The countries rely on a concept called “restorative justice,” which aims to repair the harm caused by crime rather than punish people._

[2018-10-23T02:11:53Z] olso6229:

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Why Scandinavian Prisons Are Superior

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/09/why-scandinavian-prisons-are-superior/279949/

[2018-10-23T02:12:24Z] olso6229: >_Cellblocks look like dorms at a state university. Though worse for wear, rooms feature flat-screen TVs, sound systems, and mini-refrigerators for the prisoners who can afford to rent them for prison-labor wages of 4.10 to 7.3 Euros per hour ($5.30 to $9.50). With electronic monitoring, prisoners are allowed to spend time with their families in Helsinki. Men here enjoy a screened barbecue pit, a gym, and a dining hall where prisoners and staff eat together. Prisoners throughout Scandinavia wear their own clothes._

[2018-10-23T02:20:57Z] olso6229: >_Each prisoner has a “contact officer” who monitors and helps advance progress toward return to the world outside—a practice introduced to help officers avoid the damage experienced by performing purely punitive functions: stress, hypertension, alcoholism, suicide, and other job-related hazards that today plague American corrections officers, who have an average life expectancy of 59._

[2018-10-23T02:23:28Z] olso6229: >_Throughout Scandinavia, criminal justice policy rarely enters political debate. Decisions about best practices are left to professionals in the field, who are often published criminologists and consult closely with academics._

[2018-10-23T02:36:02Z] renst011: Heyo everyone, newsletter #2 is in progress so if you haven't sent your individual assignments or documentations to me yet from the last 3-4(ish) weeks of class that you'd want to include, please do soon! Especially from gallery arrangements, responses to thoughts brought up in class, etc. Not everything will be able to make it into print but I want to make sure I have everyone's stuff. This won't include the physical conceptualization/buliding yet (besides Jocie's chair and maybe Evan's cart) but mostly the progress of thought and movement in prep for the spacial outcomes that are happening now. Feel free to shoot me any questions as well! Thank you!!

[2018-10-23T02:38:48Z] renst011: Also terrible at email response but if you have already, thank you thank you :—)

[2018-10-23T03:49:16Z] feria006: I agree

[2018-10-23T03:49:37Z] feria006: She has done a ton of work in our immediate community and would be interesting to talk to

[2018-10-23T17:34:11Z] mahla008: Is there a tape team ?

[2018-10-23T17:47:22Z] olso6229: Anyone who wants to join tomorrow afternoon, we’re going to Moon Palace Books around 2:30

[2018-10-23T17:53:56Z] olso6229: And maybe grab some food down the street at All Square? :sandwich::fries:

[2018-10-23T17:54:04Z] mahla008: Ooooooo

[2018-10-23T17:54:21Z] olso6229: Theyre both on Minnehaha ave

[2018-10-23T18:07:57Z] douga018: yes, its me Cole and Abe.

[2018-10-23T18:08:26Z] mahla008: Would it be cool if I join you guys?

[2018-10-23T18:56:59Z] douga018: yeah of course! We were planning on working on some research and doing sketches of possible tape layouts and then meeting to discuss later.

[2018-10-23T19:10:27Z] mahla008: sounds good I'll work on that as well!

[2018-10-23T19:35:15Z] danks010: Added the notes to the WeCoLab document. Let me know if I forgot anything, otherwise go ahead and add it directly. I covered everything from matt and boris suggestions/conversations to what Danne spoke about and our interest and concepts.

[2018-10-23T20:39:50Z] olso6229: Full circle, just realized Danny redacted his own book

[2018-10-23T20:40:24Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-23T20:41:17Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-23T20:49:19Z] mahla008: speaking of that i'm watching an interesting video on an art installation right now called the redaction project

[2018-10-23T20:49:21Z] mahla008:

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Anne de Marcken, The Redaction Project

https://vimeo.com/159719562

[2018-10-23T20:50:25Z] mahla008: It's really interesting how she talks about the many ways shes redacted this one book, but not only that but in way she thinks about the words and how they relate and what they mean next to each other

[2018-10-23T20:50:42Z] mahla008: its an interesting watch for those interested in redaction

[2018-10-23T20:57:45Z] mahla008: "Everything was still there, I just couldn't see it all. At some point the redaction itself became a compositional tool, I began to treat it almost like an element of grammar or an element of language, so the blacked out words themselves had as much significance as the words you could see. It was no longer just about concealing the things, its about revealing other things that had been obscured by syntax and narrative, by the conventions of language"

[2018-10-23T21:08:16Z] batzl015: Cooool

[2018-10-23T21:08:23Z] batzl015: I like that v much

[2018-10-23T21:34:08Z] danks010: Here's a brief description of libraries in prisons in Europe that me, Lee, and Cole found while doing research for a project regarding prison infrastructure.

[2018-10-23T21:41:52Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-23T23:11:54Z] kesse046:

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Why Beautiful Things Make us Happy – Beauty Explained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5kNPlUV7w

[2018-10-23T23:12:27Z] kesse046: something to keep in mind when designing, these ideas can be applied to prisons, as well as our instillation

[2018-10-23T23:13:59Z] olson175: Now I am Happy. Is that beauty?

[2018-10-23T23:39:54Z] karle029: @home depot

[2018-10-23T23:44:15Z] schra470: Not bad on price!!

[2018-10-24T01:00:48Z] mahla008: And they got lil stands

[2018-10-24T01:13:47Z] schra470: AND they are LED so no problems with heat!

[2018-10-24T02:44:12Z] olso6229: Excited for people to see Moon Palace Books tomorrow :)

Experience the NY book art fair / neo-Scholastic books aesthetic first hand

[2018-10-24T02:44:38Z] danks010: :ok_hand:

[2018-10-24T02:44:59Z] danks010: More excited to stop at All Square...

[2018-10-24T02:45:42Z] schra470: I am taking a second car to Moon palace tomorrow, so more people can come! I have room for 4 people if you haven’t secured a ride yet!

[2018-10-24T03:01:53Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-24T03:02:00Z] olso6229: For tape group: photos from conversations on sleep. they had the lamp cords taped to the floor

[2018-10-24T03:14:31Z] mahla008: Ooo neat

[2018-10-24T03:23:51Z] mahla008:

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__a_ i_ I _old you a __ory in a language I _an _ear?

http://www.lizasylvestre.com/__a_-i_-i-_old-you-a-__ory-in-a-language-i-_an-_ear/

[2018-10-24T03:25:45Z] mahla008: I think this is the Artist Boris was talking about today, Liza Sylvestre. In context of audio and redacting. Currently listening to some of her redacted audio work

[2018-10-24T03:27:02Z] mahla008: Definitely give the video a watch, very interesting

[2018-10-24T03:28:56Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-24T03:29:19Z] mahla008: On her website there is even a photo of her at the Weisman

[2018-10-24T03:29:24Z] olso6229: WOW

[2018-10-24T03:29:39Z] kesse046: Target Gallery Episode II: Attack of the Outlets

[2018-10-24T03:29:54Z] olso6229: GOOD CATCH JAKOB !!

[2018-10-24T03:30:12Z] mahla008: Oh she was part of the sensory loss workshop that happened like 3 weeks ago

[2018-10-24T03:30:27Z] mahla008: theres dannys books in the background

[2018-10-24T03:31:02Z] olso6229: Still no one else here saw the photo as far as we know right now

[2018-10-24T03:35:07Z] mahla008: It's really interesting to hear the original story she tells in this video and next to the redacted version, there the same story just in different languages. One as we hear it and one redacted. Kinda similar to the redaction project i posted eariler how what isnt there is just important as what isn't.

[2018-10-24T03:36:50Z] olso6229: funny you sent the stuff about sensory loss / hearing because i was trying to find this just a few minutes before your messages

[2018-10-24T03:36:56Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-24T03:37:52Z] mahla008: wow

[2018-10-24T03:37:58Z] mahla008: thats cool

[2018-10-24T03:38:16Z] mahla008: I wonder if that applies in other ways of sensory loss

[2018-10-24T03:39:22Z] mahla008: Does someone who is deaf view the face in the same way as this paragraph says the way blindness makes you view a face through sound

[2018-10-24T03:40:59Z] olso6229: I wonder

[2018-10-24T03:41:59Z] olso6229: In my tutor/TA days I used to regularly help a guy who was legally blind, we had a machine he used to read assignments which basically just made things 10000x contrast and some zooming

[2018-10-24T03:42:26Z] mahla008: woah what does that look like

[2018-10-24T03:42:35Z] olso6229: If I remember right he had a portable kind of version of that, or it was setup in the classroom, so he could see high contrast silhouettes of the professor and stuff written on the board

[2018-10-24T03:44:08Z] olso6229: Around the same time I knew someone else who was legally deaf and I've seen on social media over the years he's made a lot of posts about his appreciation of film, he probably notices more microexpressions and good acting because of the loss of one sense

[2018-10-24T03:45:07Z] mahla008: wow

[2018-10-24T03:46:08Z] danks010: Thats super cool! Thanks for sharing! It's amazing to realize the ability our senses have, especially when one is lost...glad you followed up on Boris's suggestion Jakob. And thanks for sharing your insight Lee.

[2018-10-24T03:46:44Z] mahla008: Ive never really thought about books in terms of someone who is visually impaired or audio books to someone who is hearing imparied

[2018-10-24T03:47:17Z] olso6229: tactile

[2018-10-24T03:47:29Z] olso6229: what happens when we pay attention to the feel of the books in our hands

[2018-10-24T03:47:41Z] olso6229: does that change how think about presenting them

[2018-10-24T03:47:47Z] mahla008: thats interesting

[2018-10-24T03:48:02Z] mahla008: I don't know but its an interesting question

[2018-10-24T03:49:36Z] mahla008: Does anyone know if they make braille books?

[2018-10-24T03:50:03Z] mahla008: Well I know they do but from what I can see from like a quick amazon search not really that many

[2018-10-24T03:50:15Z] mahla008: Are braille books banned in prison?

[2018-10-24T03:53:55Z] olso6229: what if we made a braille zine

[2018-10-24T03:54:03Z] olso6229: braille manifesto

[2018-10-24T03:54:07Z] mahla008: that sounds hard but cool

[2018-10-24T03:55:49Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-24T03:56:14Z] mahla008: Confirmation the gift and how can I help are at stillwater

[2018-10-24T03:58:39Z] mahla008: I wonder what will happen to them next?

[2018-10-24T04:09:06Z] schra470: That’s so awesome! Gosh I’d love to see who’s hands those books could end up in if they were allowed into the prison library

[2018-10-24T04:14:02Z] mahla008: I hope we get to find out, they are supposed to send me a letter so maybe I will find out soonish

[2018-10-24T04:18:48Z] schra470: Great! Keep us posted :grin: thanks again you guys for doing this, what a cool way to get involved

[2018-10-24T12:25:24Z] batzl015: Super cool stuff Jakob, pretty wild to know Ram Dass is in the hands of the warden.

[2018-10-24T12:50:54Z] olson175: re your question about the deaf and sight, it's def the case that they "hear" some through "seeing" and lip reading requires a sorta expanded sense of reading the different layers of visual information!

[2018-10-24T16:24:11Z] santo204: Is anyone driving to Moon Palace books that I could possibly get a ride with?

[2018-10-24T16:31:12Z] olso6229: Talk to Haley, Sasha, and Kailee

[2018-10-24T16:33:06Z] schra470: what time works for you guys to head out? I can pick you up from wherever!

[2018-10-24T16:33:25Z] olso6229: For all the people going, Moon Palace has a generously sized parking lot FYI

[2018-10-24T16:33:39Z] olso6229: that group is the 4pm squad

[2018-10-24T16:34:08Z] olso6229: Including

[2018-10-24T16:34:21Z] olso6229: And

[2018-10-24T16:37:52Z] schra470: Sweet okay :+1::skin-tone-3: thank you!

[2018-10-24T17:21:40Z] santo204: I’m off work at 3 & can go be ready on campus

[2018-10-24T17:25:39Z] schra470: :+1::skin-tone-3: sounds like I’m picking up a crew from rapson at 4? If anyone wants in for sure, let me know by then!

[2018-10-24T18:10:05Z] santo204: Thank you! I’ll for sure be at Rapson by 4

[2018-10-24T20:10:43Z] watso595: could I get in on that?

[2018-10-24T20:12:06Z] schra470: Yes for sure!

[2018-10-24T20:15:29Z] watso595: Where are we meeting?

[2018-10-24T20:16:11Z] santo204: Let’s just meet in the studio

[2018-10-24T20:16:57Z] schra470: I’m actually at home right now so I’ll just pick you guys up in that new little turn-around thing between the Northrop parking garage and Rapson at 4! I drive a blue Hyundai Elantra

[2018-10-24T20:57:40Z] schra470: Waiting outside rapson!

[2018-10-24T21:11:21Z] mahla008: Got some good books at moon palace u guys might get here before we leave

[2018-10-24T21:16:38Z] olso6229: :crescent_moon::ocean:

[2018-10-24T22:09:57Z] karle029:

[2018-10-24T22:10:26Z] mahla008: Woah

[2018-10-24T22:12:48Z] mahla008: Go check out the Guantanamo diary second floor bargin shelf

[2018-10-24T22:14:45Z] schra470: Love it forward...with balloons

[2018-10-25T04:12:57Z] danks010:

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Handball Saved My Life: A Sport Behind Bars

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp7yyv/handball-saved-my-life-a-sport-behind-bars

[2018-10-25T04:13:20Z] danks010: Insane article about the power of handball in prison.

[2018-10-25T04:41:26Z] danks010: Possibly an overlap area for the tape group and the handball group? Thoughts?

[2018-10-25T16:39:13Z] fasbe023: ok everyone. disregard that first link, here is the link to the AndyG exercise

[2018-10-25T16:39:16Z] fasbe023:

[2018-10-25T17:34:12Z] feria006: Here’s an idea for a plan for a Handball Exposition. Covering each wall and the respective floor space with overlapping handball courts. I think maybe a video or using audio or noise music of different handball sounds coming out of the space.

[2018-10-25T19:48:43Z] olso6229: Oooooo i love the overlapping courts

[2018-10-25T19:49:57Z] olso6229: We’re chasing down light rentals. Sunbelt Rentals is a prime choice for us right now

[2018-10-25T20:34:50Z] olso6229: Filled it :slightly_smiling_face: thanks

[2018-10-25T20:35:19Z] olso6229: Quick update on lights for everyone:

[2018-10-25T20:36:41Z] olso6229: Sunbelt Rentals has 6 balloon lights ready to go, no minimum quantity for rental, fine to use indoor at the museum, no foreseeable problems with the outlets and power draw/breakers. Sunbelt’s warehouse/supply is off of 35E and Hennepin, about 5-10 min north of the U campus.

Colten is going to Menards and Home Depot this weekend to check out the light rental situation.

Parker is still waiting for campus facilities to get back to him.

We're also looking into Powermoon LED balloon lights.

Other ideas? Anything we missed? :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-10-25T20:37:24Z] olso6229: Powermoon lights can be set up / torn down in less than 5 minutes

[2018-10-25T20:39:06Z] olso6229: They also match Danny's comment about blue-grey enamel paint in prisons.

[2018-10-25T21:34:33Z] douga018: Here's the Handball Tape Layout that we ended on in class today.

[2018-10-26T02:52:31Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-26T02:52:40Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-26T02:52:46Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-26T02:52:52Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-26T02:53:09Z] mahla008: Redaction Groups - Black out poetry

[2018-10-26T02:53:33Z] mahla008: If you are interested and want to do some black out poetry attached is the word document

[2018-10-26T02:53:46Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-26T05:20:59Z] danks010: Really Powerful Poetry! Fascinated with each iteration from each person. Nice Work Redaction Group!

[2018-10-26T05:21:05Z] danks010: :+1::+1:

[2018-10-26T16:03:26Z] olso6229:

[2018-10-27T00:03:12Z] olso6229: Open invitation for a library visit next week to American Craft Council

[2018-10-27T00:04:04Z] mahla008: Memememe

[2018-10-27T00:10:36Z] olso6229: I have a photo of myself with some friends with this ROLU project from 2012. Also the executive director at american craft council used to be the Curator of Public Practice and Director of Education at the Walker Art Center. do you have any memories / stories about Sarah, either from this project, Fritz Haeg’s residency, or otherwise?

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Visiting Lecture: Sarah Schultz, Walker Art Center, Wide Open Public - The Contemporary Austin

https://www.thecontemporaryaustin.org/event/visiting-lecture-sarah-schultz-wide-open-public/

[2018-10-27T00:51:29Z] olso6229:

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The Vault

https://vault.fbi.gov/

[2018-10-27T02:39:14Z] mahla008:

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National Security Archive

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/

[2018-10-27T02:40:07Z] mahla008: For anyone interested in redacted documents, two websites with a database of governmental redacted documents ranging from alot of things. Mostly due to the freedom of information act

[2018-10-27T02:49:43Z] mahla008: Heres one example, they are just really neat to look at

[2018-10-27T02:55:39Z] mahla008: Last one -

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Projections — Jenny Holzer

http://projects.jennyholzer.com/projections

[2018-10-27T02:56:03Z] mahla008: Jenny Holzer does cool stuff with sign painting and redaction, with projects and scrolling text

[2018-10-27T02:57:46Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-27T02:58:19Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-27T03:00:04Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-27T03:00:38Z] olso6229: the quotes on the stone benches at the walker garden are her work, also check out her “truisms”

[2018-10-27T03:00:50Z] mahla008:

[2018-10-27T03:01:20Z] mahla008: I love her projection work, i never knew she did redaction stuff

[2018-10-27T03:02:21Z] mahla008: Oh yeah, i was litteraly just looking at the "truisms"

[2018-10-27T03:17:48Z] mahla008: At the UMN reuse center 30$

[2018-10-27T03:19:42Z] olso6229: We want something wayyyyy taller, like 9’

[2018-10-27T03:20:03Z] mahla008: phhf

[2018-10-27T03:20:15Z] mahla008: get an extender

[2018-10-27T03:21:02Z] mahla008: Like that babys gotta be at least 8'

[2018-10-27T03:34:15Z] mahla008: I'm still gonna go tomorrow at like noon and see what they got, anyone is welcome to join

[2018-10-27T09:39:06Z] olson175: I remember everything!

[2018-10-27T11:25:38Z] olson175: just sent an email. make sure you read as soon as you can. THX!

[2018-10-27T13:46:23Z] olso6229: WHEW, it’s GO time :stopwatch::woman_climbing:

[2018-10-27T13:48:01Z] olson175: "Plant Seeds with Care"

If we act constructively, happiness will ensue; if we act destructively, problems will result…We create the causes by our actions, and we experience their results.

—Ven. Thubten Chodron, from “What Is Karma?”

[2018-10-27T15:01:32Z] olso6229: Alright, what’s the weekend scoop? Where’s everyone at? :nerd_face:

What all is on our plate? Benches, shelves, lights, tape, balloons, performance, redaction, outreach, proposal document? Did I miss anything?

do we have ideas for tape color/material? what type of tape won't leave an adhesive residue? What effect will a matte or glossy tape have when it interacts with the lights? Can we borrow or rent from anyone, or is it easier to buy? Maybe the theatre dept. at Rarig will be kind to us? Either way, they probably have some interesting and unexpected advice for us. :slightly_smiling_face:

+ + Is there a way to incorporate redaction into the larger conversation of what we're doing? Does it become part of the Target Gallery space? A performance outside of or within in WAM? If you're interested in opening it up as a larger conversation, I can connect you with Jen of MPWW and/or Junauda of Free Black Dirt?

Can our redaction poetry become part of a zine issue or Tumblr?

+ + Anything new on the balloon front? Is there the potential to combine the redaction group's work and balloons? LOVE balloons? A balloon performance?

Can handball and balloons tie together? Any ideas with the tape group for a handball event in WAM? How do we get the word out on this? :slightly_smiling_face:

is going to Re-use today to possibly pick up test lights

is checking out Menards + Home Depot for light rentals

and I are checking with light rental companies.

is it better to hold off on the Goldsworthy performance until after the 14th?

and , can you coordinate with Kevin / Justin / whomever about time in the shops? I see on the calendar there are BDA (box problem+dimensional color), PDES, GDES, and furniture classes that will flood the shop soon. It looks like afternoons are a bad time for us?

+ + can we get some mockup bench/shelf masses made to test in WAM alongside lights? Something simple made from scrap material? I think it’ll be great to use those to inform lighting and tape placement. :slightly_smiling_face:

And for everyone, can we follow the mantra Danny learned from his sculpture professor and passed on to us, “How much can I take away from this before it becomes something else? Peel it away to the most powerful elements.” Danny asks if we can keep it open, graceful, and thoughtful? Place-making and experiential qualities are our tools.

How can we peel the layers of everything we're doing to their most authentic, powerful, and essential parts? Simplicity comes after complexity.

[2018-10-27T15:03:53Z] olson175: Holy shite! (Irish accent) Lee. Psyched. This is a team. Thanks!

[2018-10-27T15:07:22Z] olson175: I'm sorta obsessing about this image/idea? It feels punk... and maybe a little post-Habitability? So I love the aesthetics. It would be really easy to make a version of something based on this. It would be incredibly cheap. And thanks Lee for invoking what Danny said about reduction... because this is simple. Thoughts?

[2018-10-27T15:10:28Z] olson175: Benches made from 14" tall sliced Sonotubes... ready-mix bags... Simpson strong ties for piers to elevate off the footing... or maybe we could custom make some more formal ones like in this pic? Then some sort of matching bookshelves or book presentation objects on casters? (Didn't someone mention A-frames at some point? maybe?

[2018-10-27T15:10:59Z] batzl015: Moving with the complex->simple mantra seems to be the way

[2018-10-27T15:11:14Z] olson175: Maybe some redacted text prints on tubes?

[2018-10-27T15:11:24Z] batzl015: I think we’re getting there with what we were doing on Thursday but I think it still needs something else

[2018-10-27T15:12:26Z] olso6229: I totally get and love sonotube seating from a time/material/construction POV. Stay fluid, right? I feel it’s honest to Danny and the essence of his work/subject matter, and will evoke the feelings we’re going after. As a bonus: the clarity/strength of this + smaller budget + less shop time is a WIN+WIN+WIN between Boris, WAM, Gayla, the Rapson shops, and (of course) us

[2018-10-27T15:12:37Z] olson175: This wouldn't require the shop as much either

[2018-10-27T15:13:35Z] olso6229: What're you feeling, chief?

[2018-10-27T15:15:23Z] batzl015: I need to work it a little more. Would you be down to get together today to throw down? Maybe get a large group formed to go hard on design?

[2018-10-27T15:16:11Z] batzl015: I like a triple win option

[2018-10-27T15:16:45Z] batzl015: When can we all get together today or tomorrow? Does a when to meet work?

[2018-10-27T15:17:53Z] olso6229: Let's go chief

[2018-10-27T15:18:09Z] olso6229: Can you set up the W2M link?

[2018-10-27T15:20:12Z] olso6229: I can meet both today and tomorrow

[2018-10-27T15:23:33Z] schra470: I am very free!

[2018-10-27T15:25:40Z] boris: Hello people. Just noting it here that I do not monitor what happens on slack. If you need a response from me please send an email (or text if it's urgent)

[2018-10-27T15:26:09Z] olso6229: Thank you for the heads up, Boris :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-10-27T15:28:05Z] batzl015: Do y’all want to meet at some point around noon?

[2018-10-27T15:28:34Z] olso6229: Yes

[2018-10-27T15:28:37Z] batzl015: Idk what we would do but there’s a lot to do, so we’ll figure it out

[2018-10-27T15:28:47Z] olso6229: Totally :+1:

[2018-10-27T15:29:06Z] batzl015: I’ll prob bring lunch/a snack if people wanna bring food for a throwdown

[2018-10-27T15:29:12Z] batzl015: Meet in studio?

[2018-10-27T15:30:04Z] olso6229: BDA it is chief

[2018-10-27T15:30:43Z] schra470: Yeah I’m in!

[2018-10-27T15:31:18Z] watso595: I’ll be in the laser lab so if you guys could fill me in or wanna meet down there that’d be cool

[2018-10-27T15:31:27Z] olso6229: can you make a meeting post with location+time back into the general chat? :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-10-27T15:32:03Z] batzl015: Sure! Would an email be helpful too?

[2018-10-27T15:32:15Z] olso6229: What number can we contact you at?

[2018-10-27T15:32:23Z] schra470: Definitely

[2018-10-27T15:35:07Z] batzl015: Hey, who can should come to the BDA studio at noon today to throw down on all parts of our project.

Urgency is high, but so is energy!

We will likely have to meet tomorrow as well, so keep posted if today is full for you.

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[jesssmmariee]

I never thought I would end up liking you the way I have. I didn’t think anything of it when we were supposed to hang out again. After the first time it was awkward and weird. So I didn’t think anything of it. I thought we would just drink and have a good time and whatever. I get attached so easily so I wasn’t looking for anything serious possibly just a hookup. At this time I was still trying to process everything that happened with Daniel. That night changed me. Sounds so crazy but it did. We stayed up all night talking about our fears and insecurities and our past. I opened up to him about my mental illness about my abusive mother. He was actually were interested and wanted to hear about my life . I was so content. We probably drank too much but we were both so comfortable with each other . I’ve never been able to open up to a guy like that. 2 nights later you kissed me in your truck and we held hands and drove around. I was so happy we got pizza and went back to your house. I was completely sober and completely comfortable with you. I loved laying on your bed and talking and watching Netflix. I knew I couldn’t have sex with you . I was completely open and honest about my situation with him . We still tried . After being completely mortified I was like okay I’m gunna head out i just wanted to run away.but he wanted me to stay and for a second I thought this guy actually might possibly STILL be interested in me . So anyway long story short he went away that weekend and didn’t text me for 3 days . I got drunk on that 3rd day and texted him and told him I was drunk and knew he was going to stop talking to me and he responded and said he’s out of town and he had told me that prior. (Which is true) so I thought whatever and I responded and he never texted me back. I got drunk this next day too LOL and texted him asking if he wanted to hang out the next day. He didn’t respond to me till a day later that morning and said he couldn’t He was working on music. After that I went on his Instagram saw some new girls he added went on their profile and saw he was liking their pictures.My thought was I don’t want to see this shit it hurts me . Like how do I keep him as a friend in social media I’m going to be checking who he’s adding and what pics he’s liking. I don’t want to see that shit. So I blocked him to protect my own self . I only blocked him on social media because I thought there might be a chance he would actually hit me up over texts. Weeks went by and nothing .. I unblocked him on social media and go on his profile everyday since. I don’t truly know how he feels about me. I don’t wanna ask cause deep down I almost don’t want to know. I’m so sad over it . He has made no effort to even show me he’s still Interested or misses me or anything so oh well. I can’t even text him drunk or tell him how I feel I start to cry and delete everything. I miss him so much.

I’m also out of whack off my medication my hormones are absolutely insane. It was the first time ima long time I thought about writing a suicide note to my family and friends and was actually looking up and planning way to do it. I feel so lonely . I never leave the house and don’t want to be around people. I always say I know life wasn’t for me. I started talking to god or higher power to help me out my foot in the right direction . Shits hard man.