#this quest was so… deep

[peridouu]

“why do we slumber?” - post honkai star rail 2.2 story analysis

HELLO HI HI HI!! my name is aster, and i normally don’t make analysis posts, actually, but penacony’s 2.2 story was so interesting to me that i had to make a post, in particular about order vs. harmony and what we can take away from this message. this is a short analysis but if i ever have anything to add i’ll reblog it!

i’m an artist in many forms, and the music motifs in particular stood out to me during the boss fight, so that’s what i’ll be focusing on, as being an artist in these trying times can be very strenuous 😭 likes and reblogs always appreciated!

please take this whole analysis with ten cups of salt, i ended up skipping a lot of the dialogue in this quest b/c i spaced out really badly, so if i interpreted anything wrong, lmk please!

without further ado, let’s begin!

(spoilers for hsr 2.2 trailblaze quests below the cut)

i. Harmony vs. Order (wait, what’s the difference?)

just to make it clear, i wanted to talk about the differences between Xipe and Ena. i don’t remember if they talked about this in the quest! so i’m going to yap!

Harmony by definition is notes arranged to sound nice in chords. When applied as a path, the “notes” are people, and the “sound” is humanity creating connections and peace between one another. The harmonious interactions between people, if you will.

Order achieves mainly the same thing, and is why it was eventually assimilated into Harmony, but the biggest difference in my eyes is how the “harmony” is achieved. With Harmony, it’s organic connections. People getting along of their own will and agency. This is kind of reflected in how Robin previously did outreach to other planets, almost like a religious missionary - serving others and spreading the word of her own accord.��

The harmony achieved by order, however, feels more constricted. When you interact with the NPCs who are already in the order’s dreamscape, their state is always “Satisfied”, but they’re robotic and soulless, almost. The “Harmonious Choir” boss wields a baton, the tool conductors use to command music ensembles. Herta describes Ena as “a control freak.” The Order is all managed by one entity, and in Penacony’s case, Sunday. But even so, Sunday and Robin were raised by the Order. It’s a cycle. 

And even though both essentially achieve the same thing, one of them feels much more righteous and moral in our anime protagonist eyes, and spoiler alert: it’s not the Order. Why?

ii. Sunday’s Philosophy (and how it pertains to artists)

Sunday’s whole reasoning as to why he wants to trap the universe in a dream is b/c he believes it’s less painful than the real world. Robin and the trailblaze believe people should have the choice to live in reality. Their conflict is still an extension of Order vs. Harmony. Free will vs. One safe option. The bird in the cage.

Set the bird free, where it will inevitably die, or nurture it in a confined cage? If you’re like me, when I got asked this question during the gameshow, I was very very very conflicted. I asked March, Himeko, and Firefly for their opinions and still didn’t have a complete answer. I ended up picking “Set the bird free” because, well, Trailblazer is essentially an anime protagonist, and that’s what my idealist heart wanted to pick, but….

I still pondered that question for a long time after.

“Why does life slumber?” is the question that we are asked throughout the quest, but it is only at the end of the fight that we have an answer:

Sunday: Why does life slumber?

(Trailblazer): Because... someday...

(Trailblazer): We will wake from our dreams!

And aside from protagonist reasons, I’ve come up with an interpretation of this response that makes sense, at least in my mind. It’s still important to indulge in our fantasies and dream, but eventually we have to wake up and make the choice to get out of bed, make the choice to continue forward, and that holds more value than hiding from our problems in the Dreamscape. And this is also an extension of Order vs. Harmony, and the reason why Xipe triumphed over Ena. 

but taking it from an artist’s perspective: 

As someone who creates art, it’s always our goal to make art as perfect as possible. We want our works to be as good as they can be, perfect like the Dreamscape. Obviously, that’s not possible, and it’s always discouraging to not create at the caliber you want. But art is meant to be imperfect, and I’ll talk about that in the next segment. 

iii. Penacony’s First and Last Disharmony

When Robin brings her song and the Astral Express into the boss fight, Welt says this: “Penacony’s first, and last, disharmony.” (fun fact, this was the quote that basically prompted this whole analysis! thanks welt!!) Robin’s voice is absolutely beautiful, so why is it referred to as “disharmony”?!?!?!?!?

First, the goals of the Trailblazers (and everyone else on their side, whom i’m collectively calling trailblazers) is to destroy the Dreamscape and let everyone return to reality. This means that everyone who was blissfully ignoring their problems suddenly has to awake from their dreams and face their issues head-on instead of ignoring them, disrupting the “harmony” Sunday created.

Music will always be imperfect in the hands of humans, and it’s exactly why music is able to connect with people, because everyone can see parts of themselves and their humanity in the music. It’s something powerful that so many people can connect with, just like how Robin has so many fans across the universe, and just like the Harmony itself. 

If you’ve ever played an instrument and you’ve taken lessons, your teacher will likely make you listen to the piece you’re playing. the more advanced the piece (concertos, etc) the more recordings there will probably be. Even when just comparing 2 performances, there are already so many differences, but they’re both the same piece, and both recordings are probably really good. Different interpretations, but both contribute to the piece you play. 

Especially as we live in a time of AI where computers are creating more and more “art” it’s important to know that humanity will always reign supreme over soulless works. Because AI art might look pretty and might sound passable, but it will never carry the soul and meaning of human work, and that is the most important thing. Because when people create music, they put parts of themselves into it.

TL;DR: Art is imperfect and human and that’s what makes it so valuable, and that’s why Harmony will always triumph. 

[haleyusesherwords]

The Juppet, trying to defeat the ender dragon while wearing the netherite armor of an exiled sentient Jello cube and on speaker phone getting battle strategy tips from a zombie 30 millions blocks away

*record scratch*

*freeze frame*

Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation…..

[soulbrand]

man you all were not kidding abt the therapyspeak in veilguard.

[imgayfordennys]

Are these freaks still popular on this site *crosses fingers and whispers ‘please’ under my breath*

[barufisher]

other people have already said it but it’s really soooo lame how Flat elgar’nan and ghilan’nain are. especially when you compare them to solas and mythal. elgar’nan was literally mythal’s husband, they had children together, surely he wasn’t just pure evil the entire time? why don’t we get to see any of their regrets in the literal regret prison that was originally intended for them? (because theyre just evil, of course!) why couldn’t what happened with the titans have been an unintended tragedy born from them just desiring bodies, unknowing that it would hurt and anger the titans, with those consequences spiraling into a brutal and bloody war between them… and then we could have actually seen more of what happened during this war, the impact it had on the titans and dwarves, and the desperation to end it that led to the death of the titans and solas’s regret and the eventual twisting of the evanuris into godhood… but nah. they’re just pure evil.

[witsserviceablesubstitute]

Nie Huaisang is my favorite Untamed character because he's the heir to the biggest baddest warrior sect of them all but his best weapons are his mind, his theatrics, and his sense of dramatic irony.

[oxventure-text-posts]

Ellen should get to gm a campaign next and make everyone suffer for all the jokes they made at her characters' expenses. [Tone tag: not like really mad at the others or anything, I just feel Ellen's pain and annoyance. So ig like half-joking]

[doctordaymytoiletsister]

Let's kill God.

[Should We Be Picking Out China Patterns Or What?, Bailey Herdé / The Borgias 3.10 / Normal People, Sally Rooney / The X-Files 5.19 / caption from Mythic Quest 4.05]

[blood-orange-juice]

There's already Fantasy Russia doomposting, let's have Fantasy Russia wishes too!

We have Balkan and Greek references in the game, so no need to restrict yourself to Russian Empire. Go ham. I'll start.

Name change. Please. It's so cringe currently.

A world quest chain based on Bazhov's tales (miners' folklore mixed with Ural and Slavic fae stories). Non-negotiable.

Trains and trams. Do I even need to say it?

TRDLO. Look at it. Look at it. We can have Western Slavs too and if there's no trdlo I'll riot:

(for the US people reading this: it's a sweet pastry cooked on metal rods over coals, popular street food in Prague, although it was originality Hungarian. eating it on a cold day is an Experience)

Frozen lake sounds, they sound a bit like whalesong.

Sami people. Finnish references in general.

Childe's family's side of his story.

A tired playwright bullied by censors.

Sirin and Alkonost birds! Half-birds half-humans who could put you to sleep or kill you with a song.

A black cat called Behemoth. iykyk.

Pulcinella as an Alexander II reference ("ruling Snezhnaya is not hard but it's pointless").

A giant bridge over a harbour.

Greenhouses. Just giant greenhouses.

Some steppes. A girl can hope.

Bog.

A springtime area near the sea with rhododendrons in bloom.

Space program. If Natlan can be modern then Snezhnaya can have space program. We are going to the moon to poke at a dead goddess (now where have I seen that... hm).

Cyberpunk and medical horror.

Pantalone's Ayn Rand era.

Atonal music.

Linguists.

An ice skating mechanic.

I'm assuming that Soviet adaptation of The Snow Queen (one of the things that inspired Miyazaki to draw) is a given, so here's an obligatory mention.

And, the last but not the least, 6 nations coalition army entering Snezhnaya for humanitarian help after the country falls apart on its own.

Hoyo, please. Allow us to have nice things at least sometimes.

[thirdwheelravi]

oh okay I was like. wtf kind of power does apple have 😭😭 why not just leave the cliffhanger though. let poppyian live in fanfiction ...

watching the final cut it really does like. defang the finale in my opinion lol. like the show ends with them getting back together (platonically) but then it's just back to business like usual. nothing has REALLY changed so it ends up just feeling like the whole season was kind of for nothing

[hellafluff]

Losing my MIND over the Rogue Trader getting Bathed in Blood while having a normal bath. HOW did they get clean directly after that? Idira mentions having a small shower in her cabin at one point (IIRC) so I can only imagine that RT had to run to the nearest officer's cabin to clean off before the investigation.

Imagine seeing your captain who is nearly as worshiped as a demi-god running, covered in blood, to an officer's room. And then it turns out the Death Cult who lives in the ship did it bc apparently the Emperor told them too. Sure, fuck it, 'nother fuckin day on this nightmare of a ship.

[poppyseedmuffiin]

POV it's vault daily day and no one will fuckig help you

[asheface]

UMM???? Davrin speaks dwarven????? That’s really fucking cool omg

[dark-elf-writes]

Meanwhile, in the MDZS/PJO au underworld....

Hades is particularly fond of his children, as far as gods go. He gets away with more direct action on their behalf as there’s few places for them anywhere else. He would like to see Zeus try and stop him from caring for Nico, Hazel, and his Ying-er

It is, however, a bit hard for him to wrap his mind around the idea of any of them in a relationship so young.

A-Ying was a foregone conclusion if he was honest with himself. The red string of fate had bound him to Apollo’s son far before A-Ying was his and Lan Wangji was his nephew’s. He had however wished for a few more years of his son getting to be young. He has already cornered Aphrodite on the winter solstice after he claimed his son, arms crossed over his chest and silently demanding a kinder life for them this time around. She had only smiled and patted his cheek, telling him that paternal love looked good on him.

Nico, technically his second oldest but locked in stasis for so long it’s hard to see him as anything other than the same little boy who had been brought to the Lotus Casino on his order. Hades doesn’t hold the same panic for his future as he does his youngest, no for all the grief his son has gone through his love life is not one destined to be as fraught. He checked. Multiple times. The younger child of Apollo will be good for him, he thinks even if it aches to see him grow so quickly.

Hazel, his oldest who is now his youngest by number of years lived, is yet another matter. While the child of Mars is… fine he supposes she is still so young. Still, at least he’s not another son of Apollo. He’s not sure he would be able to withstand his nephew’s teasing if all three of his children fell in love with his offspring without resorting to violence that would only upset his children.

[warmfuzzyanimal]

i'm alive btw i've just been, um,

[xxgalacticambitionsxx]

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