#this is all /nm btw! not trying to be rude at all i just don't think basil and dorian have the cute relationship most people interpret

[rosquinn]

so there's this thing called 10 year old gap,

my take on dorian gray. hi

[project-sonadow]

hello—i have a question to ask, and i figured it’d be better to do it here than to bother an individual artist about this. (sorry in advance for bringing the mood down w/ a serious question, btw.)

so, i’ve seen posts going around lately where people are like “hey, stop being explicit about sonadow, it’s weird”. and i agree that making explicit comments on sfw work is not cool. forcing the creator to see stuff that might make them uncomfortable is rude. /gen

however, if the characters are explicitly stated to be aged up (like, have lived several years beyond the games) or are in an au where they’re older, is that still bad? /genq because i always thought that the authors/artists were specifically going out of their way to say “we’re actively not wanting to make these pieces about children, we just want to see these two personalities and how they would behave in nsfw situations”.

sorry again. i’m just very confused (and a bit scared by the hostility /nm) and was hoping that i could maybe get some clarification.

(btw, thanks to all the artists on this blog for making such cute art. it’s all really nice stuff.)

Hi there. This isn't the type of thing we would typically address here, but your approach tells me that you're looking to learn and understand, so I'll give you my thoughts.

First of all, to address hostility - it's intimidating and intense, because this is the kind of thing that fires people up. We're not exempt from this, because we do not want to see explicit content about minors, and we will be direct about this fact. And for some reason, some people get very offended when you tell them this.

I'm going to respond to you in good faith, and I don't assume any bad intentions on your part.

On aging characters up. I will be specifically talking about the sonic franchise as my example here, but this applies to any series where the focus characters are children.

Sonic and Shadow are kids. They are teenagers. Age discourse is NOT relevant. They are depicted as teenagers, they act like teenagers, and they are meant to be viewed as teenagers. And so this begs the question: why is there a need to see them in adult situations? Why is there a drive to depict minors in explicit situations?

Even if a creator is theoretically not making a piece about minors, when they choose to age up minor characters, that tells me that they thought about those minors in explicit situations, or that they wanted to see those minors in those situations, but needed a way to justify it.

This is why I fundamentally disagree with aging characters up to put them in adult situations. The core characters are children. Wanting to see a child character in explicit situations so badly that there is a need to justify it by aging them up or making an au or whatever is strange and disturbing, and I personally would not want to associate with someone who does that kind of thing.

Reflect on the issue yourself. All I can do is explain my reasoning, and say that I will choose not to associate with people who make and/or consume content of minor characters in explicit situations.

I appreciate that you want to learn. I am answering this question specifically because of the way you asked it, and that I see this as a way to tell you why we think certain things, and why we vehemently disagree with certain types of content. To others reading this, this post is NOT an invitation to discourse with us. I will not be arguing about ages or logistics or whatever. Do not try to convince me that nsfw of minor characters is okay, you'll get blocked immediately.

[sparkling-pink-lemonade]

(Different anon) Honestly I think it would have been better to just. Not react to the anti in a sexual manner At All /nm Because like...Idk, I don't think it's really okay to do that without consent Anyway (not that the anti's behavior was any better, of course). Discussing nsfw topics is not consent to being talked to in a sexual manner by a stranger, regardless of age. At that point, it strikes me as responding to harassment with...sexual harassment.

I think responding in a snarky way is fine, I'm not trying to say that you have to be nice to those who treat you poorly. But in my personal opinion, it's never appropriate to make sexual comments directly towards a real person without their consent, regardless of age. Them being a minor just makes it worse

(Not mad btw, this isn't intended to be read aggressively, so I apologize if it comes off that way)

Would have it been better? Yeah. I answered the previous ask with #morally grey because I knew it would have been the right thing to do to fix it. But if I'm honest, this blog exists because sometimes I don't want to be the better person. I have my own moral code, and I'm aware parts of it will contradict the morals of greater society, and such isn't always the best course of action. But isn't that just the spirit of proship in a way? To stick with your own morals, against the grain of society?

I fully expect people to not agree with how I handled the situation. And if it's enough to upset someone, I don't mind getting blocked.

That out of the way, it's possible their post could be considered harassment. While it lacked the criteria of targeting me with the intention to upset or intimidate, it had provided people a way to easily find my blog and send an attack if they wanted. But it was hardly harassment to me, and outcome is just as important as intent. It caused no distress, just amusement.

And then my post attached no name other than my own. No reblog, no @, no tags to search. On top of that, it is with the knowledge the referenced person already has me blocked. It's more akin to mockery and talking behind someone's back, intent to make fun of the idea of someone and the language used. The outcome? Well... unless they go out of their way to circumvent their own block and cyberstalk, or someone deliberately shows them a screenshot to spy on me on their behalf, the outcome is just the ignorance of never knowing about my post.

Is it mean spirited and rude of me? Oh absolutely. Inappropriate and a bit disgusting? Yeah. But this is the internet. Society at our fingertips. The good, the bag, the ugly. I don't want everyone to agree with me, and I don't want to be morally pure. And if someone has the ability to just step out into the hearth without the guidance of a guardian, they must use the tools at their disposal to protect themselves and maintain their boundaries, and understand that not everyone cares to have their best interest in mind.

I'd say the best course of action against mine when dealing with discomfort is an attempt at reason if bold enough, and then block if no change is made. And if I were dumb and cruel enough to escalate the situation, go out of my way to make sure they see and continue to receive unwanted comments, then more excessive measures against harassment in which I would be facing punishment at that point.

Anyways, I'm not mad either~ I just love finally being able to be forward and unsanitized in an argument regarding morals/ethics.

[yui-lover-33]

Hey, I noticed you were reblogging from an agere blog, I just wanna confirm cause idk it kind of concerns me a bit. /nm

Okay number one, why are you concerned? It's not age regression btw it's a form of it it's just age dreaming. I have been into age dreaming/agedre as a coping mechanism for stress and depression. I have no idea why you are concerned all I can say is it is not something to concern abt. Agedre and agere are very very different look into it.

I am not an age regressor though just an age dreamer. I take comfort in having a moment with my own partner to be childish and taken care of. Is there something wrong with that? I have been under a lot of stress and not feeling the best so I've gotten really deep into it since I've learned a more proper term for me that I enjoy.

When I agedre, I just like to be childish and dumb but not in the slightest dumb to the point where I'm incapable of taking care of myself. I have control and am still my absolute normal self, just trying to get into a mindset that is stress-free and relaxing, and having my own consenting partner take care of me is all. It is not age regressing, the dif with that is I would be stuck in a child-like state, unable to take care of myself, and sometimes people who have that dunno how to count.

I am still a grown mature teen, and I can still take care of myself. I'm just having a little fun, maybe watching MLP, and playing with toys, and being a dumb lil kid while I do it. It is really just coping.

It feels rude to say it concerns u, it sounds judgy and I think you need to be careful with your wording. If it discomforts u so much with me making some reblogs about agedre stuff then don't look or turn away from my acc. These past few days for me have been shit so I'm gonna be doing shit like this til I get better.

Sorry if I was so harsh, but that just sounded rather rude to me is rlly all.

[cupcraft]

hey just saying maintagging every post that remotely has to do with something just clogs tags and kinda like . Yeah . like I dont want to block you because I like you a lot but when you maintag everything that's in a post it just really clogs, sorry if this is rude or anything I do mean well :(

Hey this is a good point because recently (and over time) i've really tried to reduce my maintagging because i do realize how much of an issue this is. I really now try to tag the bare minimum of who is referenced in a main post of mine (so like if im liveblogging ranboo and billzo id tag them both if they are both mentioned in the post). However I don't want to be contributing to the issue but also i do maintag for organization/to be accurate. So if you want to come back on anon (or any other mutuals/etc) want to like contribute to this like yeah like i guess i'd want to hear more thoughts so I can tag better and not overly clog tags.

This is all /nm btw i appreciate you coming to say this!