#this is about papa nihil.

[countmothra]

I have a very strong allegiance to losers and it’s frankly disturbing and it’s becoming more and more apparent as I slip further and further into the ghost hyperfixation.

[probably-impossible]

Seestor processes her feelings about Nihil in a normal and healthy way 👍

[lasagoofs]

ratty guy

[gogodollie]

"sister imperator won’t call copia his title because she doesn’t want to give him an ounce of respect/power!!!!!!!" she won’t call him by his title because she was bouncing on nihil’s dick while calling him papa and she does NOT need to associate copia with that

[ficandkaboodle]

Analyses of Most Ghost Characters be like…

Terzo was a tragic and extremely deep figure who, based off observations provided by his ghouls and Bishop Necropolitis, was a brilliant mind whose ideas were bastardized and squandered, which resulted in a disappointed and bitter husk of a man who still made an effort to display kindness. However, we will likely never truly know the full story of who he was because he lied so damn often.

Most of how we perceive Secondo is arguably the result of Sister badmouthing him as well as ghouls being brutally candid about how he acted in interviews. However, there’s reason to believe Secondo might’ve been just as multifaceted as Terzo, in that he wasn’t being his complete self to the audience. There’s evidence that could suggest Secondo did not enjoy being Papa in its entirety so much as the perks, which were ironically also hindered by him being Papa at the end of the day. It’s not hard to interpret him as someone who might not have enjoyed being a part of the bloodline at the end of the day because of what it meant he had to sacrifice.

Copia is a manchild, likely as a result of how he grew up: Orphaned, likely a social outcast, very likely undiagnosed. As a result, he might’ve become convinced that the only way to rise above it was to become someone worthy of adoration: Papa. But even after he ascended, his troubles didn’t stop: He had to learn his parentage, didn’t address the fact that his brothers were now dead, and spent the last few months he had with the woman he now knew was his mother dissociating because he developed a fear of death. This fear, mind you, that easily ties back into the theorized likelihood that he placed his self-worth into his success. And this is before getting into his willingness to be a puppet —

Papa Nihil’s complexities come in the form of his tendencies to escape reality and the consequences these brought. He was very likely an absent father, which would have had effects on his sons (say, attention-seeking tendencies; a distrust in authority; abandonment issues). In fact, the only things he seems to seek from his youth is his extremely short-lived music career and his unstable relationship with a woman who ultimately kept quiet about their son(s) they conceived together and ultimately played his lust and delusions against him to play nepotism. And by leaning into this, he got his own children killed. He only “became a father” after he died, and it’s sad that he actually seems his most lucid then. What’s all the more mind-boggling and makes you wonder about his tenure is his ability to be in the moment and try and convince Cardi to learn to do the same. It makes you curious: Was Nihil actually a good Papa when he wasn’t distracted?

Sister Imperator is willfully emotionally constipated and will justify it as being “for the good of the church”. She has definitely been affected by her decisions and what she’s done, from her relationship with Nihil to her giving up her babies and watching them at a distance, only interacting from a work standpoint. She lies, keeps secrets, has people killed off, all to tie her spawn into the position as Papa, which is curious considering her position means she’s already above the station of Papa. She does care about Cardi, but she doesn’t care for him the way he needs to be and, as a result, arguably only exacerbates his anxious tendencies. She’s an extremely interesting character but it’s so easy to water her down to just being manipulative and evil.

………………

Analyses of Primo —

Primo is fucking crazy man I don’t — Like, he might be a serial killer; he would punch a panda for profit; we aren’t even entirely certain he’s human like I would legit headcanon that Primo is a changeling and the fandom would run with it because what choice do we have, he honestly actually could be!!!

[copia]

THIRTY-ONE DAYS OF GHOST ⛧ DAY ONE

first song you heard — Mary On A Cross

September 1969; Papa Nihil and the beginning of the Ghost Project take to the stage at the Whiskey a Go Go club in Los Angeles, under the watchful eye of Sister Imperator. Fifty-three years later, in Tampa, Florida, Papa Emeritus the Fourth performs Mary On A Cross, unaware that he is singing the story of his parents—and that of himself.

[gorie-talks-a-lot]

Do you ever think Copia cringes at having to sing Mary on A Cross because Nihil probably (read: DEFINITELY) banged his mother to this song and wrote it seemingly to praise her head game?

Poor fucker was probably conceived to that song.

[ghulehvous]

Brethren - I am shocked. Socked and appalled that we could be so fickle - so goddamn frail - as to mourn the woman who gave the order for their demise. Never forget!

[cityofmeliora]

the Papas' eye colors

fun little observation i made: the natural eye color of Papas I-III and Cardi / IV / Frater Imperator is green. this is obviously because they're all played by TF, who has green eyes.

however, they actually don't share their natural eye color with their dad, Nihil. his natural eye color is blue.

Sister Imperator does have green eyes, though. it seems Nihil must have a thing for women with green eyes?

[gravehags]

it's monumentally funny to me that nihil put out two (2) songs in the 60s and sister imperator saw him impulsively kiss another woman and immediately retired his ass like...she really said "lol you're done. you're done."

[revelisms]

Emeritus Bros 🦇

[bloodonmysqueegee]

replayed faith a little and thought of the worlds goofiest crossover (please see my vision)

John goes to a Clergy ritual, unaware that said ritual is a three hour long concert sung by a fruity anti pope

[skywarpie]

Ch 6 really gifted us with the weird ass family dynamic that copia has with his parents.

Giving sister dead flowers that he more than likely found outside on a bush

The awkward introduction

Telling sister her accident did her wonders

Shushing her like a toddler does their mom so they can guess what's happening with literally no context

Making weird little noises and hand motions to stim

Making irritated looks at his dad

Both of them forgetting sister at the end; only for nihil to look at copia like "really!?"

[gogodollie]

Papa Nihil has a pinup tattoo of Sister Imperator on his forearm. She’s in a martini glass in her iconic green dress sporting devil horns, wings, and a tail. Nihil also happens to have a classic heart with her name (full legal name Sister Imperator) scrawled over it that’s placed over his own heart. She HATES it and wants it removed but he insists it’s like a wedding band to him. On the other hand, she appreciates it because everyone knows that he’s her bitch for life so it all shakes out I guess.

[ficandkaboodle]

You know what? I like the idea of Copia’s potential dating life being absolutely rattled by his well-meaning but absolutely insane family.

Primo tells him to do it old school and offer his crush flowers. Proceeds to create a bouquet of poisonous plants for Copia to present (“Careful not to let this one receive more than two hours of sunlight.” “Per day??” “No, in total. Too much sun and it releases spores they haven’t yet created an antidote for.”). Copia coincidently forgets the bouquet in his room when he goes to meet his crush.

Secondo tells Copia to take control. To flaunt his wealth and power and his crush will throw themselves at his feet. Now, Copia does enjoy fine materials himself. But…the idea that they’ll only want to be with him because of his money and means just agitates his anxieties about being unwanted as a person. He only feels vaguely better and more full of hope when his crush notices he’s down and offers him a juice box. They ask if he’d mind if they sat next to him with their own and he sheepishly gives them the okay. He’s fighting for his life to not let his blush region turn ablaze.

Terzo means well the most, offering advice. But it’s of the sexual variety. And while Copia does want to do…stuff…with them eventually, he feels much more comfortable wooing them first. “Ah. Well. Lean into being Italian, then. Though…When I say ‘lean’, I actually mean to dive headfirst into it. You need the help.” (Yes, that was inspired by this ) Copia, dressed in his red sweats and a shirt that reads “Sweet Dreams Are Made of Cheese 🧀”, furrows his brows in confusion. “What do you mean by this?” he asks, taking a sip of his juice box.

Even if she’s dead, Sister stays working. This includes messing with the schedule to make sure Copia’s crush frequently interacts with him. However…she almost literally hovers. Telling Cardi to fix his posture, to speak up, but also to not be distracted — You’d think she wouldn’t really care about her son’s love life but I think in a way, her interfering is an extension of her efforts to make it up to him for the life he wound up having. Suffice it to say, it stresses Copia out.

Nihil…You can’t just… You can’t give your son advice on making out in the car and groping and whatnot. And for the life of SATAN, STOP IMPLYING YOU USED THIS SHIT ON YOUR SON’S MOTHER —

At the end of the day, though his family probably means well, they’re just not good for this and make the whole situation worse. Either Copia toughs it out and tries to woo his crush on his own, or Only Sane Man Psaltarian just cuts it straight and tells him “Just ask them out. If it doesn’t work, you tried and it’ll be over quicker than if you just nursed this. If it dies, la dee dah.”

[mintea-in-space]

Ghoul Clergy Au(Species Swap): Hands!!

Copia(Fire/Air): Has beans! They're very sensitive so he very rarely takes his gloves off. The pads glow a pretty cyan. Has to be careful because his hands get very hot very easily, he’s given up trying to hide the burnt handprints that end up all over his furniture. His claws match his skin tone, but he likes painting them too. Copia has a bad habit of biting his nails, so they tend to be all uneven. Eventually his human ghouls catch wind of this and set off on a journey to help him stop. Dewdrop ends up being the only one allowed to take his gloves off, so Dewdrop is the one that offers to help him clip them and keep them filed down. It becomes a special routine for just the two of them.

Terzo(Quint/Air): Has beans but very subtle ones. Look more like calluses than anything else. Slightly textured. He also has he sharpest claws of the group and keeps them very well maintained. (He has a fancy cat scratching post in his room. Omega laughs the first time he sees it.) He has gold claws, and his pads are also a very faint shimmery gold.

Secondo(Water): No beans, but as a water ghoul, his scales cover his wrists and part of the backs of his hands. He also has webbed fingers. Is the only Papa that can't wear gloves unless glamoured because of this. Secondo's claws are better suited for breaking rather than piercing (think like a crab or lobster claw, for breaking open shells) His are probably the most durable.

Primo(Earth): No beans. But the backs of his hands are covered in soft fuzz. He has black claws that are almost blunt at the ends, but very very strong. Primo just disappears outside and comes back with his claws worn down. No one really knows what he does. (He digs. Dead ass. He finds a cave and claws the rock. He also fucking climbs. Like a mountain goat. No one who has seen it lived to tell the tale, as it's usually when he's hunting)

Nihil(Originally Water/Air): Has beans! Size is somewhere in between Copia and Terzo. Has scales on the backs of his hands like Secondo, but no webbing. He has to get his claws clipped for his own safety really but that does not stop him from being absolutely pissed about it every time. Just picture Nihil hissing and spitting like a cat while Sister calmly clips his nails for him. Just thrashing around while simultaneously keeping his hand still because he knows if he makes her mess up he'll get his ass whooped. Although before his elemental loss he was probably the diva that clawed the ministry doorways just to make sure someone knew they pissed him off. His claws used to be semi translucent and sparkly.

Sister Imperator(Fire/Quint): Queen of beans. Hers are a bit leathery, but they also glow a light green like Copia's! Hers also used to be sensitive but she powered through until it didn't bother her anymore. Probably has the best kept claws next to Terzo. She routinely files hers and they are razor sharp.

Psaltarian(Quint): Has very calloused beans. Upon further inspection they are a dark purple, but mostly blend with his skin. Clips his own claws, but also has a scratching post in his nest to properly file them down. His claws are black, with a slight metallic sheen to them.