#this gifset doesn't do the scene justice

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M3GAN (2022), dir Gerard Johnstone

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THE ADVENTURES OF SHERLOCK HOLMES (1939) Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes & Nigel Bruce as Dr. Watson

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EVERY CYCLOPS AND ROGUE INTERACTION IN X-MEN EVO - Cyclops thanks Rogue for saving the day (1x04 Mutant Crush)

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So I was trying to find the “bitchy heroine” rec list but couldn’t find it but I did find a gifset of Norrington who has had a chokehold on me since I was 13. Any recs where the hero is like him? Repressed proper asshole that reaaaaaallly needs to get laid and preferably by someone who he finds improper/annoying and just can’t STAND THE ATTRACTION he has for them?

I really need to find a way to tag things more specifically other than "book recs" I'm sorry :(

I did make this post about controversial heroines on Instagram!

But yes!!! Norrington Type Heroes:

Rules for a Proper Governess by Jennifer Ashley is THIS. The hero is a stern, uptight lawyer with a strong sense of property and morality, and he basically ends up picking a local pickpocket girl (who's been lowkey stalking him) because his troublesome kids love her. And so he hires her as a governess. It's very "Captain Von Trapp if Maria was a Menace and he only had two kids". I think they call him like, the Scottish Hammer or something, and it's meant to be the Hammer of JUSTICE but she's like "WHAT DOES IT DO THO". He also has a massive oral fixation.

The Chief by Monica McCarty. The hero is very cold and stern and businesslike, and he ends up in an arranged/kinda forced marriage with this girl, who he doesn't exactly find annoying or improper, but he does find a distraction from WORK, which is DIFFICULT for him because he needs to WORK and not BONE.

Never Seduce a Duke by Vivienne Lorret lol. The hero wears glasses, is very stodgy and focused on figuring out the recipe for this... magical food elixir thing... and the heroine is wild, and he ends up thinking she stole his Arthurian recipe book from him (she didn't) and follows her across Europe. She bugs him sooo much.

Hotel of Secrets by Diana Biller. Uptight virginal spy guy on a MISSION (he's celibate because feelings distract from the job among other things) stays in a Viennese hotel run by the more casual, very sexy, experienced heroine. She pushes all his buttons and he's always running in to save her from zany murder plots. There's also a scene where's masturbating while thinking of him, but like, she didn't realize the door was open, and she looks up and he's watching and he goes "don't. stop." and I did gasp when I read it.

If you're down for trying an M/M historical, Something Fabulous by Alexis Hall is a hilarious romcom in which the uptight (virgin!) duke proposes to the woman he was always supposed to, because he's very proper and there are Expectations, and she's like lmao fuck you and runs off so he has to chase her down with the help of her frivolous and wild twin brother. This book's humor is basically mined from Valentine (the duke) being soooooo stuffy and repressed, and Bonny (the twin guy) being whimsical and free.

The Earl I Ruined by Scarlett Peckham. Local uptight earl who's a Secret Freak gets his reputation ruined by his best friend's flighty and gossipy little sister (he's also always been secretly in love with her). She spreads a rumor that he's into submission which... is not his kink of choice.

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#this gifset really doesn't do it any justice #you NEED to hear the voice acting for this scene lol

Oh yes :D You can check it out here, at 5.58!

Until yesterday, he could’ve been found in his suite at the Empire Hotel downtown. But when I stopped by earlier this evening, all I found was spilled coffee on a morning paper. Appears he’s been abducted. By who?

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Thank you. I don't know how I'll ever repay you.

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Tell me you missed the point of the hallucination scene from Volume 9 without telling me you missed the point of the hallucination scene from Volume 9.

First and foremost, they are just that: hallucinations. If we're being charitable with the interpretations here, this version has them be hallucinations of broken pedestals that are representing their own broken moralities.

Weiss has Winter, who are both tied to the SDC and the family name, and Winter was someone Weiss looked up to until recently when she found she couldn't rely on her.

Blake was Adam's mentor and ex who she once idealized his justice before she saw what a monster he was, tying that to how she views her own version of justice.

Yang's relationship to Raven is natch and obviously was broken by the time they officially met in Volume 5. How it reflects with Yang could be her own devotion to protect her friends and family.

Ruby genuinely wanted Ironwood's plan of activating Amity to go off without a hitch and only opposed the whole "going into space with the relics" plan because it meant leaving a city to rot, which obviously was her broken pedestal moment, with the morality being questioned being her duties as a Huntress.

In the original scene, each of them were quizzed on what they wanted out of their life the same sort of question they got from Volume 2, though now with them having their answer (it's not a straight 1:1 question, but it's close enough to the question that enough fans made gifsets comparing them).

It's to symbolize how much they've grown compared to when they got their question before. Weiss has grown past the need to "redeem" the family name. Blake has grown to settle down into a life she can call her own without needing to fight for it, and Yang has accepted that just because she's missing something in her life doesn't mean she's empty. (Ruby is the exception because she's grown to realize she doesn't know what she is without her role as a Huntress).

So, you would assume that the above scene would be similar. That WBY would refute what WAR call them out on and it's Ruby who struggles to figure out a good counter for Ironwood.

But instead, we have what is basically a "no u" response from RWBY that barely refutes any of what the group had brought up at best and a thinly veiled rant at the characters masking as lines of dialogue at worst.

And keep in mind, these are supposedly hallucinations... So this scene becomes even more fucked. Why? Well, let's break it down.

Winter's statement is that Weiss has nothing now and that had they just stayed within the SDC and not broken out, they could have changed it for the better instead of now being purposeless people.

Normally, "I will not be defined by my name because I will be the one to define it." would still fit here, since the theme is trying to impress people.

Weiss' response is to instead yell at her for not doing anything to save Whitley and Willow from Jacques and being Ironwood's second in command.

Hey, uh, you remember that exchange in Volume 7 where Willow and Weiss meet up? This bit?

Willow: No matter what happens, Weiss... please don't forget about your brother.

Weiss looks at her mother.

Weiss: Whitley wants nothing to do with me.

Willow stops at the door and turns to look at Weiss.

Willow: Of course not, you left him alone.

She looks at the portrait of Jacques behind the desk, and Weiss looks at it too.

Willow: (sadly) With us.

So, what you just implied is that Weiss is projecting the fact that she outright abandoned her brother to be abused at the hands of Jacques... Onto Winter.

And just to remind you all, the last time Weiss saw Winter, she was trying to save her life, even if it meant that Cinder could get the Staff of Creation. She risked everything just to save her sister, and yet when seeing a hallucination of her...

She basically tells her "why didn't you go save our mom and brother?"

And, this is going to be a recurring theme, but notice how Weiss never refuted anything Winter said.

Adam's discussion with Blake is that she foisted responsibility onto a child (something that Volume 9 clearly shows wears on Ruby's emotions) and then brings up how bringing the civilians to Vacuo is a bad idea.

Blake has like one line that refutes this and then proceeds to yell at him about how he's not a real hero of Faunus like that has anything to do with whatever he said. It's funny that both he and Ironwood are the only responses that are multi-paragraph while Raven and Winter's are just one paragraph...

Almost like it's biased or something...

Which is funnier because in the original scene, WBY only had about a few sentences to respond to their hallucinations, not entire paragraphs of a thinly veiled filibuster.

But back to the one line that refutes this: "We sent the people of Atlas and Mantle to the only kingdom with enough Huntsmen to protect them."

I'm going to cut krypti some slack because they at least tried to give a response to what Adam said before Blake flew off into her multi-paragraph rant on why he's the worst person ever.

The debate on whether Vacuo is the right choice is hotly discussed and while it's a good shortcut for RWBY to get to the next spot Salem's hitting next, dragging Atlas and Mantle's people to it has its own problems because of Vacuo's philosophy of people needing to look out for their own.

And that's mainly because of how the OG Mantle fucked it over years ago. No one really brings up this problem when discussing Vacuo so I just guess the World of Remnant really is non canon.

But back to Vacuo, it will now need to divert its resources between quelling the truth bomb Ruby laid on an unsuspecting populace (something Ironwood had accounted for with his original plan), stopping Salem's inevitable forces, and now this recent refugee crisis, plus whatever sort of Maiden + Relic shenanigans will ensue (because you know that's bound to happen), so there's definitely a lot of risks that outweigh Blake's "it's the only kingdom with enough Huntsmen to protect them" reason, because they're not gonna be the only thing they're gonna be protecting, honey.

Raven's hallucination tells Yang that Salem can't be reasoned with and that she should just give up and run before more of her friends and family are slaughtered by Salem. This is an interesting point where what Krypti wrote does tie back to how it's a symbol of Yang growing past her character...

Except it feels more like a regression.

Let's pull up Yang's retort to her canonical hallucination for comparison's sake:

My losses, my failures. Those more than anything are what have shaped me into who I am, showed me how I need to grow. If there’s something I’m missing, it’s not because I lost it. It’s because I haven’t found it yet. And the only way to do that is to keep going.

Note how calm and rational Yang is being here. Even when Yang was confronting her actual mom in Volume 5's infamous finale, the only time she was outright angry and confrontational with her was when Raven was boasting about strength, because at that point, she had lost her patience with how she can just calmly talk about murdering an innocent kid and passed it off as mercy and she was (once again) dodging her questions by cryptically saying how strong she was.

However, she doesn't let that anger get the better of her and instead rationally convinces Raven to hand her the Relic. And this works. That's why Yang is in the Ever After in the first place! It was all because Yang managed to convince Raven that she could handle it.

So, let's now read what Krypti had written for Yang once again:

You know Raven, Ozpin should have given you the power to turn into a chicken rather than a raven. That’s all you’ve ever been!

A roast that barely refutes the point Raven made.

The moment anything gets too tough for you you just leave! Oh no I can’t be bothered with a child! Oh no this fight isn’t going my way!

Which is now becoming more petulant.

My mother was Summer Rose, not you!

A quick refresher that this isn't actually Raven, but rather a mental hallucination of Raven and that this is supposedly the moment of WBY's character arcs where they renew their vows of being Huntresses.

And it's instead being used for Yang to instead yell about her mommy issues into the void.

I’d rather die on my feet knowing I gave it my all than die in fear.

It's amazing that this is the only line of dialogue that has any right to exist, so I'll do you a solid and actually rewrite this:

Yang: I’d rather die on my feet knowing I gave it my all than die in fear. You say I wouldn't want to do this, but that's not true at all. I will do this, if not for the sake of my friends, then for the sake of both my moms... for I am a Huntress!

There. See how much better flowing it is?

And then... There's Ruby.

So, here's the interesting thing about Ruby.

Her entire character arc for Ever After is that she's the most broken of Team RWBY but the problem is that she can't ever outright say she's broken because everyone else sees her as the "smaller, more honest soul" that they fling their hopes onto. All so that she can fight a never-ending war against a monster that, as far as she knows, killed her mother who was in that very same war and failed.

When she faced her hallucination of her past who outright brings this fact up to her, she couldn't muster a response and Curious had to step in and stop it before things could have gotten worse.

Ironwood's is the simplest: two sentences that ask Ruby if she thinks she's a better hero than he is. The appropriate response here would be still hesitance or despair since by this point, Ruby was beginning to have doubts of whether their actions were worth it in the end, not helped by the fact that they risked everything for Penny and she still died.

But, of course, Krypti decided this is the perfect time for Ruby to have the longest rant out of the four members. To break down exactly what she says to him, she:

Accuses Ironwood for arresting them for the crime of protecting people.

Accuses Ironwood of looking for an excuse to cut Mantle loose long before the evacuation attempts.

Takes credit for Ironwood's "warn the world" plan.

Rambles out a laundry list of crimes Ironwood did throughout Volume 8.

I'm interrupting this list because most of the stuff she says is stuff I don't even think Ruby is even aware of:

Did Oscar tell Ruby about him getting shot?

Does she know about Sleet getting shot?

Does she know that Ironwood was working with Watts specifically?

This is a minor detail, but put a pin in it because I don't think Ruby'd just suddenly call people she had worked and trained with "goons".

And to top off her spiel to Ironwood:

Says how Ironwood stopped them whenever they tried to save people (name one time in Volume 8 that wasn't Whitley using the SDC ships)

Says how Ironwood's pride and arrogance was his biggest crime... While proceeding to have pride and arrogance by saying she's a better hero than him.

Pins the blame of the fall of Atlas entirely on him.

You know what?

I applaud you.

You've written a perfectly in character response here that is appropriate for the story context.

Because it would be in character for Ruby who, just a few episodes after this encounter, would end up flying into an outrage at her own friends after she gets a PTSD attack.

It is petulant, accusatory, paranoiac, egotistical, basically all the hallmarks of someone who clearly isn't right in the head and had just realized their plan to risk it all to fight for every life might have gone to shit and they have no way of knowing or even caring if it's even worth fighting for anymore.

Oh, wait? You mean to say that's just her being defiant in the face of Ironwood? The hallucination that was made based off her own psyche and hangups?

So... you basically had Ruby scream "NO, IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!" into the metaphorical void because things didn't go her way and expected that to be the good route?

This post is dragging long enough so I gotta wrap this up.

The concept of having RWBY's four toxic influences be the hallucinations rather than the past versions of themselves is a neat concept, especially if done in a way where it references how they've grown past who they are like in the original.

However, the retorts by Krypti barely work because of one primary reason that I'm sure you've noticed.

The main point that is brought up by the hallucinations is barely mentioned and is instead just lip service before they get roasted by what is clearly a mouthpiece, as evidenced by the random use of the word "goons" by Ruby, out of character knowledge being used, random tangents the characters go on, and the obvious bias against Ironwood and Adam having more words in their rants about them than Winter and Raven.

If anything, this serves as a great microcosm of RWBY discourse where one person brings up a problem that the characters will have to face and rather than talking about the problem, the fans will respond by saying how everything is someone else's fault or just resort to ad hominem attacks.

You’re No Better.

Okay but what if they confronted the people they’ve hurt/impacted the most? If you got better dialogue or alternatives for this scene let me know! This is just my version, wish I had Adam say more about how Blake just screwed around partying with FNKI than help the Faunus in ATLAS of all places!

Also… yeah I wish maybe RWBY faced WTCH but that would require a full rewrite to make sense. Heaven forbid the main villains interact with the main heroes.

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colin “yee-haw” robinson

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4 characters who got their memories back + 1 character who didn’t

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Bonus:

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"No speak spanish" my ass. NARCOS - 3.06 "Best Laid Plans"

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— The Man in the Iron Mask ( 1 / ∞ )

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... Works for me.

The Greatest American Hero - 2x13: The Shock Will Kill You