#this doesn't mean the green knight was BAD for not including it but it DOES mean it might be forever until the next SGGK movie chance
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rubiatinctorum · 23 days ago
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At the same time, I think
Adaptations being unfaithful to the source material, especially long after it was first relevant, isn't inherently some great violence done to the text nor a perversion of some pure and noble goal of the original
Sometimes an adaptation of an older work will work with themes that are more contemporarily significant to its current audience, and that's not necessarily a bad thing
It can be very disappointing to ardent fans of the original work who expect to see what they love on the screen/stage/whatever in the adaptation, not only because they now might be privy to what is a completely different story, but also, because this was kind of totally the work's one shot at getting a brand new TV show/movie/stageplay/whatever any time soon, and so this is what experts call a "turbo bummer :("
Some works don't need to be derivative, but wouldn't be made in a certain media landscape if they weren't, so it's better for the story to be told and vaguely connected to a previous IP than to not be allowed to be told in the medium at all.
Ultimately the mark of whether a work of adaptation is good or not rests with its quality as its own story, and if it fucks, well sorry people who dislike it bc it's not the original, but it fucks ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Holy shit, two cakes
All of this does not mean I would not be mad if some adaptation team used MY writing to build their own new story on top of in my lifetime because I already did it perfect the first time thank you very much ;)
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winterlinksandotherlinks · 3 years ago
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Blue's eyebrows seem to suffer the same fate as Twilight's wolf pelt: every time I draw them, they grow bigger and hairier
(Thoughts + bonus doodle below)
Do I low-key ship it?
...... maybe
But I also think it'd take all three of them forever to get together (we're talking literal years here)
It doesn't mean they're not close, Green just needs to get out of the metaphorical closet and face his inner demons (all related to being shoehorned into the role of the Perfect Hero, and the guilt of not living up to those expectations what d'you mean I'm projecting shush)
Some thoughts:
Blue continues to apprentice as a blacksmith, and eventually takes over the forge;
Red sometimes helps out, and enjoys figuring out how to make magical items (such as the metal piece at the end of their belts — the jewels glow in their respective colours whenever they split, but that's literally all it does, and Red loves it — as does Shadow, but that’s another story);
Green is the only one to continue training with the Knights, and frequently travels to check on border defences;
Green is close friends with Dot;
it takes some 3-4 years after their adventure before Red and Blue feel confident enough to start a relationship, but once they decide to go for it, they go all in and put in the time and effort to make it work;
it takes them another 3-4 years to become engaged (Red proposes);
Green thinks they're absolutely adorable, but feels like they've grown up and left him behind to shoulder the weight of Hyrule's safety and the role of the Hero;
not everyone is happy about most of the Heroes being openly queer (even when Link came out as bi in their early teens, the reception was strained), and particularly nasty officials will sometimes comment to Green that they're glad at least one of the Heroes is a “proper” Hero — Green is terrified of how people might react if he comes out too, and how the image of “the Hero” might change;
Red and Blue both agreed early on that they would like to include Green in their relationship, but when they saw no indication that he might want to, they didn't push it;
Green does eventually stick his head out of the closet, panics, and hides again (or in narrative terms: begs Dot to send him to whatever border fortress is the furthest away and give him an official command to stay there for a year or so, to avoid his feelings);
it takes another two years before Green sorts himself out and talks to Red and Blue (who at this point are married), and Dot, Vio, and Shadow (the latter two having worked out their differences years ago and now being in a healthy and committed relationship, thankyouverymuch) are watching the shit-show from the sideline with popcorn;
in other words, they're in their early thirties before they figure it all out and it's a time;
Red and Green both agree that Blue is the ultimate pillow;
Green is generally a light and antsy sleeper, but it's particularly bad when they're travelling as a group — it's not that he doesn't believe in the others' abilities as fighters, but he's very aware that he's the only fully trained swordsman, and he takes their safety very seriously;
Green has a small (non-magical) replica of the Four Sword that he uses as a dagger, and keeps at hand whenever he does sleep;
Green never sleeps in the middle, and always on his side, facing away from whoever he's sleeping next to, so he can get up quicker should anything happen;
Green drinks a lot of black coffee to cope;
Blue is eternally exasperated by Green's sleeping habits, while Red is not above pleading for a nap pile if he thinks it's needed;
Blue is eternally exasperated by Red's objection that “it's not cold, though!” because it's negative double digits and it's snowing, so pull those sleeves back down and put on some gloves, or so help me —
Blue is generally exasperated and firmly believes that his partners are going to give him grey hairs one of these days;
Red think it's hilarious, but does genuinely have no problem with colder temperatures (he's a walking furnace, and will sleep in the middle if it's particularly cold);
and Red has never caught a cold, while Blue always catches colds — Blue doesn't get why, but that's not going to stop him from forcefully handing out blankets.
Bonus doodle:
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purplerose244 · 4 years ago
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Thoughts journal for season 13!! 😎😎 (2/4)
Here we go with another four episodes! I'm enjoying myself A LOT and I do hope we will continue this way! I can't wait to know more about Rock Mom and who really is the Skull Sorcerer and ENOUGH LET'S GO TO THE EPISODES!!! 💕💕
Here we go!!
QUEEN OF THE MUNCE
For this one I already saw the Nya's knight suit already... and she was gorgeous... I mean she always is but COME ON 💙💙💙
These munce are too much 😂 They are kind of adorable in their stupidity really
Jay going full "we're never going to get out Imma get overly pessimistic because YES" is always a familiar sight, almost as him spazzing out during a difficult situation... that could still happen 🤷‍♀️
Good thing Nya gets the brain cell most of the time 👌
Of course while I'm waiting for the third part of Tales of Arcadia, something so similar to the Trollmarket comes my way 😂 Very nice thought, a bit dark. I hope it doesn't get in the way of seeing the good fighting scenes
Okay but THIS
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IS PLAIN CURSED, PLAIN BALD HEADS😱😱😱 Well I'm guessing Tommy doesn't have excuses anymore to become a LEGO character 😂
Well Murt, that was one breathtaking story, you should be a storyteller 👍
Ah, there we go, with the Jay and Nya and queen situation 😒 It's not that bad really, considering I thought it was going to be just a weak way to include Jay with just another triangle. It didn't last long so that's kinda fine, but it is annoying that Nya is pushed away. But overall better than I expected
Also it is nice the reminder that she is his yang 💙❤💙❤
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And they are still adorable 😂😂 I like that you can tell immediately here who's the strong one of the couple 😎😎
So there is a drawing of the Millie Gillie guy/gal on that wall, huh... was I in the wrong about that being Cole's mom? I thought they said she, but English is not my first language so I could be wrong 🤷‍♀️
Ninja Jay could be the new Kai Ninjago 😂
Aww, that part with the lightning and the crystals was so pretty 🤩🤩
And there we go with the confrontation 😛 I did snorted seeing Jay kinda offended at Nya not wanting to fight for him, but she is still super adorable saying that they belong 💕💕 Also Lloyd just being there trying to calm everyone down, le poor baby 😂😂
Yep, the fire instinct kicking in, Nya is the daughter of Ray after all 🤷‍♀️
AND SHE LOOKS ABSOLUTELY GLORIOUS WITH THE ARMOR 🤩🤩
Oh, apparently the queen of munce can do spin dash 😱
Woooo, that preparation for the spinjitzu was so cool 🤩 And of course she kicked the HECK out of her, THAT'S MY GIRL!!!
And now she's the queen, great, more problems to come 😅 We'll see how this plays out, and I am kinda curious to see queen Nya at work ☺
Not my favorite episode, but still enjoyable, let's keep getting better and better!
So... WHERE IS MY FLAME BABE?!? ❤
TRIAL BY MINO
THERE HE IS 😍😍😍
I don't know if it's because it's a very obvious but convenient thing to do or I just love Kai THAT much, but I love when there's dark and he just lights up his hand. Idk, I just think it's neat 🙂
There're the Geckos! They are cute too 💜 Also chanting about the Millie Gillie guy, I'm still convinced that's just Cole's mom! Also I'm kinda guessing the Skull Sorcerer is the king of Shintaro. He is the most suspicious for now, we'll see how it goes 🤷‍♀️
Poor Kai got the awful thing in his mouth... AND HAIR!!! Look out sweetie, your beautiful chocolaty hair!! 😱
OMG ZANE CALLING OUT KAI ABOUT HIS BLABBERING AS HE DOESN'T HAS A SKELETON 😂😂 I laughed too much at it, I'm sorry Tin Can 😅
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Really like the crystal vibe 😍 This one is blue, the other was green, is there a reason?
I missed Kai and Zane together, I missed anyone with Zane in general! It's always a nice contrast and always amusing, especially if hotheadTM is involved 💕
So they throw rocks to show approval, I'm loving this society for some reasons 😂
Okay, vengestone is literally everywhere, there is no way all this stuff was not on purpose. It would make sense that a place studied to weaken an elemental master was meant for something more. Wooooo, ROCK MOM ROCK MOM 🖤🖤🖤
Awwww, I don't know why but them acknowledging the elemental masters is super satisfying 💜
Oh so Kai is not a king, he's a chancellor... and he didn't want to 😂😂 Vincent definitely had fun voicing this episode 👌
Okay, so there are three explorers involved? I'm guessing the muscular one in the trailer was one of them. I wonder what will be their part in the story 🤔
Poor Kai, his encouragement speeches used to be the key of convincing, here it's harder. Let's see how they will deal with this... also how Kai will react with queen Nya of the munce 😂
Pff, Zane throwing the rock of encouragement, that was so adorable 🤍
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I really missed these two ❤🤍❤🤍
THE SKULL SORCERER
Seriously, even talking to herself and thinking about the worst situations like Bluebell? If Cole and Vania do end up together, I'll still hold onto the fact that Rocky is into the loquatious type 😂😂
Okay, a sweet princess' paranoia towards a little white cute dragon named Chompy?
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One of the cutest thing ever seen 😍 Also I am a firm believer that everything improves if you put a dragon into it, another reason why I love Ninjago so much 🤍🤍🤍
Pff, seeing Vania talking about call then the cut on the black ninja makes me think about that one vine with the guy hanging with his phone saying "Yeah I'm okay mom, bye (phone down)... I AM NOT OKAY!!" 😂
SOLO MOMENT WITH COLE!!! Freaking yes, and it looks like the little tic of talking to himself when stressed from March of the Oni got stuck 🙃🙃
Lava punches back! Big bad bats!! Spiders!!... wait- AAAHHH 😱
Okay, forgive my skepticism when I doubt that a simple spider web could stop one of the strongest ninja of the team. We needed Vania to the rescue, alright, still sounds a little easy but eh watcha gonna do 🤷‍♀️
SHE HAS HER HAIR DOWN!!! SHE LOOKS STUNNING!!! Golden hair girl 💛💛
And Chompy is a big good boy 🤩
CALLED IT!!! CALLED IT FOR THE KING!!!... I mean it was kinda obvious 😅 Still, happy I thought about it before it actually happened. Although it's curious that the reveal happens now, halfway there, unlike in Prime Empire where it took almost all the season to build up the reveal. What's left for the finale?... ROCK MOM?!?!
There's a customer for all that vengestone? That... actually makes a lot of sense. Anyone who is against the ninja would want it really, and that only considering past villains. And if we think about possible elemental masters coming back, uuuhhh, I like where this is going!!
YOU CANNOT HURT A BABY DRAGON IN THIS SHOW AND NOT PAY I HOPE YOU GET THE WORST DEATH/DEFEAT OF ALL THE FRANCHISE 👿👿👿
Wait, so they don't naturally have wings? Oh, that's why she didn't have them in the trailer, I see 🤔
This is probably the only moment when I think they rushed a bit. Not too much, I iust feel like we haven't seen enough of Vania and her father to truly feel that decision moment as fundamental. Still cool, still intense, but kinda light. Anyway GO PRINCESS GO!!! 💕💕
THE REAL FALL
Oh Garmadon... that title... *flashbacks The Fall while realizing this is indeed Cole's season* NOT AGAIN 😱😱😱
I mean they are already falling so... uh, let's see how it goes
HE EVEN FRAMED CHOMPY HE MUST DIE SO HARD 😡👿😡👿
Okay the fall here is actually kind of hilarious 😂 Or is it because I love that Kirby gets to be on the center of the attention and he is giving his all? Idk, I love all the voice actors of the show really 🤷‍♀️
Hey, you people watching this
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Am I the only one getting emotional here?? 😢 ... just me, huh 😅 I mean come on, it's Cole and Wu! The first leader and the sensei! The used to be dad and his son Cole Jr.! I headcanon that Cole was the first to arrive at the monastery and this feels like the old times... EMOTIONAL PEOPLE
Lol, sensei taking the time to compliment Vania about her behavior, he's gonna adopt her when this is over 😂
I mean, you kinda faced worst yes, you fell into the Underworld on dragons you used to be afraid of, you fell from a ship with an anchor, you fell into a junk compactor that almost squashed you against your rival now best friend, you fell from SPACE towards THE EARTH, you fell from a ladder... THE LADDER COLE 😱😱😱 (this fangirl will never recover from that)
Aaaand a giant web. Of course. Classic Ninjago lack of luck right there 👈👈
Clutch Powers still lives 😂
Okay, seriously? She freaks out when things gets out of hand and talks about staying calm by making vocal exercises! Freaking, it might be me trying to find an excuse to think about Bruise, but they are making it a little too easy for me 🖤💙🖤💙
I am kinda loving her being so genuine, Idk, I really like Vania. She does her best 👍
Falling > Dying, life lessons by your master of Earth 😎 Wu sounds so done, they can never go anywhere without something crazy like this happening 🤣
Why is this so funny, the sequel of The Fall shouldn't be 😂 Meh, not complaining
That was one very mad Lapras
YES THANK YOU SENSEI!!! Finally he acknowledged it, Cole is literally surrounded by his element, OF COURSE he is crazy strong in here. I needed this scene, heck yeah, I love elemental powers 🖤
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Oh they must be the explorers... Merlin, Assassin's Creed and Conan the Barbarian 😅 So we hit rock bottom, literally apparently, and one of the spider's name is Adam... OKAY
So the real fall was in fact Cole falling asleep for the shock 😂 Lol if Cole and Vania really don't end up together, I can joke and say that in this season Cole has never fell harder 😉😉
This was very amusing, I liked this episode, I would rewatch it only for the comments 😂 I'm curious to see what else will happen, especially with these three now involved! Who are they?
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janiedean · 7 years ago
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do you think sansan will become canon in the end? there were metas that say this pairing would be abusive to sansa and that the hound doesn't fit sansa's brave-gentle-strong ideal... and I wanted to ask if you think it's true and sansa is traumatized and doesn't actually like him? idk i just need to feel that it's not that horrible to ship them
I could say a lot of horrible mean things on the subject of *abusive to sansa meta* which 90% of the time includes *everyone* sansa interacts with but the person The Author Of That Meta Ships Sansa With, but I’ll shut up and instead attempt a reasonable and nice answer. insofar as I can.
spoilers: I shipped sansa and sandor since they interacted the first time. I don’t think anything bad about this ship whatsoever. all the contrary. feel free to read on knowing that everyone.
canon chances: I think in the show it’s not really an option (because the show fucked them up in S2 and they don’t have the basis that they have in the books) unless they somehow do a 180° turn in S8, but as far as the show goes I have a feeling sansa/tyrion has more chances. book-wise though I think it has plenty of chances to become canon and actually it’s the most likely imvho. then it depends on HOW and what do you consider canon (if she never marries and he’s her sworn shield how do we take it to say one?), but I think it has very high chances and if people say otherwise, too bad.
‘abusive to sansa’: lol. sandor is about the one person she’s not related to along with tyrion who is not abusive to her throughout her stay in king’s landing. period.
specifically: joffrey is abusive as shit to her. cersei is abusive as shit to her. TYWIN is to both her and tyrion because he forces that marriage on both of them and let’s not kid ourselves about how it’s abusive to the both of them given that tywin’s abused tyrion since the moment he was born, and tywin barely even interacts with her. the tyrells are emotionally manipulative and YES also partially abusive to her because they basically use her as a pawn and try to butter her up and make her think she can trust them until they think they can marry her to willas and use her to get winterfell, and then the moment she’s married off to tyrion they drop her like a boiling hot potato and frame her for joffrey’s murder. littlefinger is abusive as fuck to her because he’s forcing her to be someone she’s not, he’s trying to get her to be complicit in murdering robert, he’s also using her as a pawn and he’s fucking kissed her. a lot of people are abusive to sansa stark and not all of them have done that by being physically violent. 
now, sandor is not a gentleman nor anything of the kind, but sandor is also a highly traumatized and damaged guy who’s completely out of fucks, who has been physically and mentally scarred and betrayed by his close family and whose dreams have all been shattered including any notion of knighthood being a decent thing, who has ptsd in spades and who has absolutely zero conception of how you relate to other human beings also because he’s been dehumanized since we don’t know how fucking long - THE HOUND guys, THE HOUND - and certainly didn’t get schooled in manners, and he’s also an alcoholic and he reacts to about anything with violence because he doesn’t know any better, but guess what, he never hurt sansa the way joffrey or cersei did (physically I mean), he always tried to look out for her best as he knew (he told her from the beginning that the court was shit), he had her back always even if he wasn’t gentle or gallant about it, he confided in her about how he got his scars (fuck the show for giving that scene to littlefinger blergh), he saved her from that mob and most of all she was the only person who ever showed him a shred of kindness, how the heck is that **abusive**? he’s rash, he’s horribly mannered and he’s violent, but if you look at the blackwater scene and don’t see that it’s sandor at its lowest trying to get his song from her because he thinks there’s no other way he can have it and then when she gives it to him and touches his face he actually cries because he went at her violently and she reacted with kindness? like she basically went and fucked up his entire worldview by touching his damned face and at the same time she was entirely aware that he was looking out for her the whole time best as he knew how. that’s two fucked up people being fucked up together but getting somehow better, not an abusive relationship.
on top of that, what did sandor want to do with arya when he found her? bring her to robb and ransom her, figuring that robb would appreciate it, and same with brynden later before they learned that riverrun was under siege. why the fuck would he even trust robb to do it? ah, wait, hasn’t sansa most probably spent a lot of time talking about how nice her brother was (before her father died anyway) and hasn’t she given him some hope that some people might be actually decent? like, come the fuck on, this guy never had **abusive** behaviors towards anyone. violent? totally. but look at the damned context. saying that he’s abusive to sansa is ridiculous. also, what is he doing right now? calming his spirits in the quiet isle, where people go to… heal. technically.
also, what does sansa herself pray for? actually, what does sansa herself think of sandor?
He is no true knight, but he saved me all the same. Save him if you can, and gentle the rage inside him.
I wish the Hound were here. The night of the battle, Sandor Clegane had come to her chambers to take her from the city, but Sansa had refused. Sometimes she lay awake at night, wondering if she’d been wise. She had his stained white cloak hidden in a cedar chest beneath her summer silks. She could not say why she’d kept it. The Hound had turned craven, she heard it said; at the height of the battle, he got so drunk the Imp had to take his men. But Sansa understood. She knew the secret of his burned face. It was only the fire he feared. That night, the wildfire had set the river itself ablaze, and filled the very air with green flame. Even in the castle, Sansa had been afraid. Outside… she could scarcely imagine it.
As the boy’s lips touched her own she found herself thinking of another kiss. She could still remember how it felt, when his cruel mouth pressed down on her own. He had come to Sansa in the darkness as green fire filled the sky. He took a song and a kiss, and left me nothing but a bloody cloak.
now, this is a selection, but: SANSA HERSELF RECOGNIZES THAT THERE’S GOOD IN HIM and she’s praying for the mother to gentle his soul and help him and SAVE HIM, while she thinks he’s no true knight (more on that later);
SANSA HERSELF, since sandor told her why he has a burned face, does not think him craven for having run and since she’s an empathetic and nice person she recognizes why he’d do it (more than 99% of westeros would) and KEPT HIS BLOODY DAMNED WHITE CLOAK, which is absolutely not marriage imagery isn’t it, because you don’t marry changing cloaks in westeros, that’s absolutely not a thing that happens /sarcasm, she thinks that *she* was afraid and recognizes *he* might have been too;
SANSA ACTUALLY THINKS HE KISSED HER when he did not. I repeat: sansa has convinced herself that sandor kissed her because (most likely) to her it’s a lot better an option to think sandor took her famed and precious romantic first kiss rather than have it forced upon her by some random kid or someone else (*cough* littlefinger *cough*) - kissing sandor is a thing sansa thinks she’s done to protect herself in her unreliable-narrative-ness and like, sandor’s cruel mouth never was anywhere near her own but she thinks that anyway. and since sansa (now we’re getting to it) is nor an idiot nor someone who’s unaware of others but she’s also a very traumatized person who’s been abused to hell and back by about most people she’s ran into since ned died, she obviously is using defense mechanisms here. she’s a romantic. she probably fantasized a lot about her first kiss. and now that she’s had to give it to someone she didn’t choose and who actually imposed it on her (littlefinger, who’s also a creep who’s superimposing catelyn on her DIFFERENTLY FROM SANDOR who never did such a thing), what is she thinking? that no, sandor took it. are we fucking serious? I don’t daydream or make up that I kissed someone who I wouldn’t have wanted to kiss in the first place, or better, I don’t fantasize about someone kissing me if I don’t want that someone kissing me in the first place. people trying to spin the unkiss as some proof that she’s been brainwashed or abused (lol) aren’t getting that instead the unkiss is what she came up to reject the harsh reality of her first kiss not belonging to her brave, gentle and strong knight. that’s not what you do with someone who abused you. she doesn’t think about joffrey kissing her, she doesn’t think about tyrion kissing her, she thinks about kissing sandor. or better, sandor kissing her. like. it’s text. it’s canon. deal with it. 
that means that sansa herself has seen the good in him and knows that he has the potential to be a good person and that she likes what she sees. abusive relationship. yeah, my ass.
of course sansa is traumatized. but from the fact that she’s traumatized and from the fact that sandor is her defense mechanism - or part of it - you can deduce that the source of her issues is not sandor clegane and actually sandor clegane is one of the reasons she keeps herself grounded and deals with what happened to her. 
‘sandor is not the brave gentle and strong ideal’: good lord now we are at my favorite part of this ridiculous nonsense, which is: that people seem to have decided that sansa’s storyline has to be taken LITERALLY. when it’s OBVIOUSLY all a metaphor.
like, nvm that this ship is beauty and the beast played straight up (jb is deconstructed, sansan is really not), and grrm likes his b&b parallels, but the point is: when the series starts sansa is eleven and as all of us at eleven she’s somewhat shallow and judges people on appearance, which is… NORMAL, at her age, if you’re that kind of teenager. sansa wants a brave, gentle and strong knight and she thinks that person is joffrey. JOFFREY. and then she thinks it’s LORAS. loras is not into women and can’t give a fuck about her either way and joffrey is the reason her father dies. like, the entire point of sansa’s storyline is that she has to learn to look beyond appearance and to see that true beauty is not only exterior or in the manners. which also ties with the fact that even if she hates being married to tyrion then she thinks that he always was kind to her because as bad as it was she could see that he was a better person than they had given him credit for, and that’s why she sees that sandor, who doesn’t *look* like that, is actually a truer knight than anyone else, because *he* was the one who didn’t backstab her and who always looked out for her as best as he could. like, obviously he doesn’t LOOK like that ideal. if sansa marries someone who LOOKS brave, gentle and strong and whatever ie idk *jaime* /sorry I hate that crackship/ she goes nowhere because her entire storyline is about seeing beyond beauty/shallowness.
also I find it ridiculous that people expect the brave and gentle knight to actually look young, beautiful and gentle and whatever, because…. SPOILERS, the only *young, brave, true, gentle and strong* knight in the entire series who holds up to that regard and who carries out that ideal without stain is named, NEWSFLASH, BRIENNE OF TARTH. not sandor clegane, not jaime lannister, not jon snow, not willas tyrell, not anyone else. if you want sansa to go with the *literal* embodiment of all those things then your pick is named brienne, and brienne is…. ugly. like, ugly. and neither she nor sansa are into women anyway, so that point is moot, but most likely brienne is going to end up sworn to sansa at some point, so sansa *will* get at least a brave and gentle knight to watch her back in that sense. except it won’t be her damned love interest, because brienne’s there to be someone else’s love interest and viceversa.
what sansa’s love interest should be, according to the narrative, is someone who’s proved themselves to her to be what she needs and to care for her for who she was and not for what her surname meant and in this equation looks shouldn’t matter because if sansa has learned something is that LOOKS DON’T MATCH THE INSIDE, NECESSARILY. and sandor fits that scheme perfectly, especially if his stay with the elder brother calms him the shit down, he’s quit drinking and he’s straightened his shit out. obviously no one thinks they should have boned when they both were in KL because it wasn’t healthy at that point even if for the both of them knowing the other was a good thing and it made them better because it opened sansa’s eyes and it showed sandor that not everyone was automatically horrible. so lol, sandor is exactly as brave and strong and gentle as she needs him to be and the narrative doesn’t require for sansa’s love interest to be that *literally*.
also, I’m really fucking done with this idea that’s been around for a while that sansa has somehow turned into show sansa and her reactions to sandor are the ones she had in the show towards fucking ramsay, and with the fact that sansa has to be tough or that she has to react to everything with violence when what characterizes her in the book is that she’s highly empathetic and she reacts to violence with kindness and sees the good in everyone and *she stayed kind* regardless of all the shit and abuse that got thrown at her. sansa saw the good in sandor while she was being abused by other people and he helped her out and she knows that (and he helped her out as an abuse victim himself who’s been fucked up to hell and back, used and thrown away by the exact same system which is fucking her up so like hands off sandor thanks he’s an abuse victim too and if he reacted to it by turning to alcohol he’s not a less valid one), she’s not blind nor stupid nor she doesn’t know who exactly abused her (I mean, with LF she’s superimposing sandor on him to protect herself so subconsciously she knows that indeed) and assuming that she’s traumatized and hates him *and then she fantasizes about kissing him* and thinks about him with only good words is a) insulting to sansa herself as a character, b) purposefully wanting to misunderstand the text. as far as I’m concerned anyway. you can not ship it, but framing it as an abusive relationship or as her being *too traumatized to realize she hates him* is out of this world. especially when in canon there’s more than enough hints to interpret it as romantic or as potentially romantic. (again: the damned unkiss. seriously.)
eventually, it’s framed as a b&b where both of them are highly damaged people who help each other become better, and saying it’s abusive is basically wanting to prop up your ship - like, say that you don’t like it and it’s not your thing and be done at that, don’t make it pass as *abusive* when asoiaf is full of textbook abusive relationships (romantic and not) and sansa is in at least two of them if you just count the romantic ones and more if you also count emotional not romantic stuff. sansa and sandor has nothing to do with sansa/lf or sansa/joffrey, just to mention the two romantic ones/the ones where kissing was involved, it’s not even barely on the same planet let alone the same galaxy tbh and while it certainly has *problematic* elements and it’s not a wholesome fluffy thing where there’s no element that would make modern sensibilities raise eyebrows (but then again guys the most wholesome relationship in these series made of people who have actually kissed and boned in canon is *sam/gilly* and she…. was raped by her father and had his son, no one in these books has a fluffy uncomplicated pure TM relationship without having come from a horrible background), it’s not abusive and sure as hell sansa stark doesn’t hate sandor clegane. or well, she hates him so much she’s turned him into her coping method. let me tell you, if I hate someone, I don’t turn them into my coping method - that’s completely preposterous. and it has romantic undertones voluntarily. people need to deal with it.
as for your last question: it’s not horrible to ship sandor and sansa but it’s not horrible to ship anything as long as you don’t go around to other people being an arse and you know what you’re doing. I’ve shipped sansan from the very beginning - it was my first asoiaf ship actually - and I’m entirely aware that it wouldn’t have been healthy when it started and that in real life a guy who asks a song from a woman putting a knife to her throat isn’t healthy and that he’s a person with ISSUES and that those two having gotten together in KL would have been highly problematic af, I still ship it and see it as an endgame because when they meet again they’ll be older and less damaged and they’ll be able to pick up on the good that was in their relationship, but like even if they had before as long as I knew that irl that stuff doesn’t fly and that a twelve-year old and a twenty-six year old in OUR world wouldn’t fly, it’s all fiction and I’m not horrible for being into it, same as no one is inherently horrible for being into idk theon and ramsay or jaime and cersei or sansa and lf or whatever other badwrong thing they’re into. there’s nothing inherently wrong in being into problematic ships.
but in this case saying that it’s wrong to be into sansan because of the above is ridiculous because those things are not existing in canon nor in text and turning it around saying it’s ABUSIVE and that she hates him is just intellectual dishonesty. /two cents
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If you're taking requests, could you do a prompt where the reader is the newest intern at the AH office and is super shy at first and doesn't like being on camera, but a few months later she's needed for a let's play and she opens up, showing her real personality and Trevor falls for her???
“One final thing before we wrap up this latest AHWU episode is that we uh… we have a new intern,” Geoff said, glancing around to bring you on camera so he could introduce you to the fans, “Where the fuck is (Y/N)? Gavin, Michael, go find (Y/N) so we can show our audience our newest member.” He orders the duo. Gavin grabs the camera and Michael takes the microphone as they go exploring their office to find you.
“She’s gotta be around here somewhere, its not like there is anywhere she can hide.” Michael says.
“Did she know we were introducing her on today’s AHWU?” Gavin’s voice asks behind the camera.
“Dude, I don’t know. Let’s check the community room, she’s bound to be in there, right?” Michael opens the door, “(Y/N)!” He shouts as he enters before he actually sees you in your little corner of the room, “There she is! Let’s get her.” He jokes.
Him and Gavin quickly navigate their way over to you and you look from Michael to Gavin and notice the camera. You try and cover your face but Michael wouldn’t let you. “Uh… hi… guys.” You say to them.
“So, this is (Y/N), she’s new to this little rooster family.”
“The latest cock.” Gavin adds.
“Got anything to say to the fans, (Y/N)?” Michael holds the microphone out in front of you.
“They’re going to see this?” You ask him, not looking at the camera.
“Of course! It’s AHWU!”
“Umm…”
“Perfect!” Gavin states before the two of them bound out of the room.
A few months later after that incident you began to slowly warm up to everyone. You were new and didn’t want to step on anyone’s toes. You knew your place. You usually just edited videos for the company and you were happy with that, you still got to be here with people you’ve watched online for years.
“Hey! We need an extra body for a Let’s Play video, any volunteers?” Jeremy yelled into the room, startling you a bit.
No way were you going to offer to be in the video, you still hated being on camera and because of this the fans didn’t really know who you were. They never usually like the girls that appear in Let’s Plays. You continued editing the video in front of you and ignored Jeremy since there were others in the room willing to help them out.
“(Y/N)! Thanks for volunteering!” Jeremy shouted, “Come with me.”
“What?” You were confused, but then again you shouldn’t have been surprised by this, knowing the guys.
“Let’s go, come on. It’ll be fun. We’re gonna be playing some Offense Defense on GTA, nothing too difficult. Since Geoff and Jack are away on business we needed a couple people to help out.” He tells you, with an arm around your shoulders guiding you out of the room.
You walk in and see Gavin, Michael, and Ryan all set up waiting to go, they all look at you and smirk as you walk in, knowing how shy you are. One final head turned to look at you and your eyes connected with Trevor’s. You’ve had a small crush on him since you’ve started working with him but never really had much in the way of conversation with him, you felt the nerves in the pit of your stomach as Jeremy removed his arm from around you.
“Nice choice!” Gavin teased.
“Well, don’t just stand there, sit the fuck down and let’s record a video.” Michael tells you and you make your way over to the empty chair beside Trevor.
“Don’t be nervous.” He tells you, you look beside you and see Trevor is leaning over to you. “It’ll be fun.”
“Were you nervous the first time you got to record a Let’s Play?” You whisper.
“Who isn’t?” He smirks at you and your cheeks betray you with a rose tint, “Just be yourself, that’s all any of us do.”
“Alright! Let’s start it up!” Ryan states and you nervously begin the capture and get ready to play.
The guys do the intro to the game and you try to make comments here and there but you were still way too nervous and way too shy to even be doing this. “So… what are the teams?” Michael asks, “I’m the pink car, who’s with me?”
“Oh! Michael, Boi! I’m pink too!” Gavin states.
“Okay, so Gavin’s gonna be blocking me.”
“I’m Green.” Jeremy says.
“I got you, Jeremy.” Ryan adds.
“And so that leaves (Y/N) and me.” Trevor remarks. “We’re gonna dominate.”
“Orange cars for life.” You tell him and Trevor laughs.
The game goes on with Trevor protecting you from the oncoming attacks from the other blockers, you begin to just embrace the game and let down your inhibitions.
“Oh I see an Orange car!” Michael states.
“Michael..” You warn.
“I’m gonna flatten you.”
“Hey! Stay away from my team mate!” Trevor chimes in.
Michael lets out a battle cry as he tries to hit you, you narrowly avoid him.
“Ha! Suck my dick, Michael Jones!” You yell and surprise everyone, they all start laughing.
“(Y/N), I’m a married man. I’m gonna be a father.” Michael retorts. Just then he gets hit by Trevor in order to detour him away from you. “Trevor!”
“Hey, I said stay away from her. Now you made her offer you to suck her dick.” Everyone laughs at his comment, including you.
“Uh… Trevor? I may be needing your help up here!” You exclaim.
“She needs her knight and shining Treyco.” Ryan jokes as he hits your car.
“I’m on my way! Later, Michael.” Trevor leaves Michael and begins to head your way.
“Go after Gavin!” You try to tell Ryan. “He’s in first!”
“Whot? No I’m not.” Gavin fibs.
“I’ll get to him, right now you’re the one in front of me so I’ll just play a little bit.”
“Ryan, you creepy mother fucker.” Jeremy says.
“What? Jeremy! You’re on my team!”
“Just because I’m on your team does not mean I don’t get to remark on when you’re being a creepy mother fucker.”
Trevor gets Ryan off of you and hits the back of your car, “I gave you a little nudge from behind, go! Go my little orange!”
“You’re taking her from behind? That’s pretty forward of you, Trevor.” Michael adds.
You laugh along with the others while Trevor tries to argue with Michael. You end up winning that round and the two of you celebrate your victory, “Should’ve sucked my dick, Michael!”
“Told you we would dominate, we’re the perfect team.” Trevor states.
“Alright, quit your flirting and let’s go on to the next round.” Gavin says.
You finished playing and the session, you remove the headset from you and look around the room, suddenly shy again.
“Good game, (Y/N) who knew you had that side to you?” Jeremy compliments you.
Everyone leaves to go get lunch and its just you and Trevor left in the room. He wheels his chair over to you with a big smile on his face. “You were amazing!” He exclaimed and lifts his hand up for a high five.
You shake your head with a smile as you return his high five, “You weren’t so bad yourself. You did a great job protecting me when you were the blocker.”
“Well, I had a precious partner, I couldn’t let anything happen to you.” He tells you. “Hey… do you wanna go grab lunch together?”
“What?”
“I’m asking you on a date, I liked the girl that was just playing with us and I want to get to know you better…”
“Um��� o-okay…” You say, before grabbing your stuff and following him out the door to go on your date.
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