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sugaroto · 2 years ago
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I may not remember anything from ancient greek from my freshman year, but the one thing I remember clearly is when Theramenes did the sluttiest thing ever when he drunk the conium and addressed Critias like "This one is for you" and then died
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t3thcup · 2 years ago
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Κριτίας x Θηραμένης walked so hannibal x will could run
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Omg i love my blorbos <3 ( ive centered my entire future around ancient greek classes and ive become so deranged because of it i am having delusions that war criminals and philosophers are my baby girls)
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kaggeorgia · 2 months ago
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And because on this blog we love ancient Greece I have to say this
Xenophon, an ancient Greek historian who wrote down the events of the last years of the Peloponnese war and the period where Oligarchy was settled in Athens wrote about an extremist Oligarch, Kritia who arbitrarily sentenced to death his like-minded friend and associate Thiramenis because he accused Kritia's extremist political actions.
Theramenis was sentenced to death by drinking a poison (κώνειον) but before he died he played with the remains of it an ancient greek game which the Athenians loved to play on gatherings. It's called κωταβος if you wanna search about it but the point here are the last words of Theramenis that he directed to Kritia. This is the original text
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And that's the translation in greek
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The rough Google translation for this in English for the non Greeks who might see this is "Here's to the health of the beautiful Kritias".
So the interpretation of the school book bc yes we get taught this shit is that the phrase shows his playful character and how that man never lost his courage even at his last moments. Also that phrase has the meaning of Theramenis wishing Kritia "και στα δικά σου" as greeks say, a way to wish the same fate upon Kritia. That's for anyone who wants to go by the straight interpretation of history.
For each one of you who heard the lyric "Anything but lovers, history hates lovers" you're in the right place my friends because nobody can convince me this wasn't just an action of flirt and that there isn't a lovers to enemies lore behind this. Because the term "friends" that is used from historians to describe their relationship doesn't convince me. Pls tell me I am not the only crazy out there who just made up a whole story for them to cure my boredom of ancient Greek?
My point is that you'll find a lot of tension between historical people that can be taken out of context and feed our delulu minds.
The song is dedicated to them and each and every pair of historical people who have taht chemistry between them
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valend · 3 years ago
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https://www.wattpad.com/859337986-θηραμένης-x-κριτίας-one-shots-●▬▬▬▬๑1-5๑▬▬▬▬▬●
ITS IN ANCIENT GREEK
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pls
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sugaroto · 3 years ago
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So I've been thinking about this for a while,
I wanna put aftg characters into greek school categories
**Lemme explain real quick for the non Greeks, in 2nd grade of High school you have to choose between two paths Θεωρητική (Theoretical) and Θετική (Positive) [idk why it's called that]
So in the theoretical path you have 3 extra ancient Greek classes and 2 Latin that the positive kids don't
In the positive path you have 3 extra math and 2 physics classes
Positive kids keep insisting that the path class is completely different from what we do in class but us theoretical kids still try to figure out where we're gonna use numbers since we supposedly no longer need them**
So yeah I wanna put the aftg characters into Theoretical and Positive
First we have Kevin Day, who is a known history nerd, he would obviously choose the theoretical path that has extra history in the 3rd year
Then Aaron Minyard, as far as I know he wants to be a doctor right? Well in the 3rd year there are more paths (im not completely sure about all of them since I'm in 2nd year but-) to get into the "Health"(biology/chemistry etc that path is obviously for docs) path you need to go through the Positive one the year before (I think you can change paths too but it's easier that way)
Nicky would go to theoretical, 1 gays cant do math, 2 I saw a meme describing theoretical as "🏳️‍🌈", 3 he would read the "Kritias x Thiramenis" fic on wattpad (about the 2 dudes who were fighting all year long at the book of the 1st year) #enemiestolovers, 4 he would make fun of Mantitheus (my dude was talking in 2 paragraphs about his hair pls-), 5 he would probably complain (like my positive friend did) about how the introduction of Latin talks about the biggest poets of all the time and then the 1st poem you read is Ovidius crying and talking about himself in 3rd person
Idk what Andrew's relationship with math is but he has a perfect memory for theoretical classes
Neil.... I don't what the f*ck Neil would do. He loves math but he speaks like 5 languages and that's what theoretical is about. He'd probably choose Positive tho, since he enjoys math (wtf bro) and Latin and ancient Greek aren't languages he would use.
I think in 3rd year there's a path called "Economics" which is supposed to be the easiest out of the rest so I kinda feel Seth would've chosen that (I think you can get into it whatever you chose the 2nd year)
And I've no idea what the rest of the upperclassmen would choose but let's give it a go...
So Allison would be theoretical but one of the girls that are living it, like she would have 24 different highlighters and colorful notes like those⬇️(I didn't even read what it says,I'm pointing out the aesthetic) and maybe she would've number her highlighters like I did who knows (unfortunately I don't have pretty notes but you get the point)
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Dan wants to be a coach right? I guess she'd be great at PE but, path? Idk maybe theoretical? (I know dead language sound difficult but it's a class you can get through? Somehow, well history in 3rd year is hell, but... idk... ) now that I thought about it idk.....
And Matt? I've no idea... maybe Economics with Seth?
Damn Neil why couldn't you pay more attention at their classes you're making my life difficult
And I almost forgot Renee, but she would be with Allison having aesthetic notes too. She looks like the girls that do. And she would be great at the classes too.
Edit: @winterxjxsmine pointed out that Seth would've gone to an "Επαλ"(Epal) (according to Google translate that's a) Vocational High School (I thought it was professional high school, but anyway)
That's the easiest choice. No paths. Easy classes and you're supposed to be teached about more in-hand jobs
However, Epals do have a bad reputation (that would fit Seth tbh)
Like you ask your mom if you can go to the epal cause it's easier and she says no cause she doesn't want you doing drugs
Epals are known for the "Epaliotes" (that's what the students that go there are called) that show up at school with a GLX (I don't even know what that is but I suppose it's a motorcycle) smoking in class, exchanging drugs with the teachers or threating them with guns (Ok,ok some are jokes taken too far but you get the point)
Some pics/memes about Epal I found on Google:
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I can't find "Γελ" (general high school, you know the one with the paths) memes to compare cause it's spelled like "Gel" and Google thinks I'm talking about that thing you put in your hair
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sugaroto · 1 year ago
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Hey remember the whole greek sexyman thingy?
Yeah I still haven't finished it so let's go to round 2😀👍
Round two
Hermes(Ουκ αν λαβοις πάρα του μη έχοντος/You can't take from the one who doesn't have) vs Lazaros (Είσαι το ταίρι μου/ You are my match)
Deligiannis (Old politician) vs Andreas (Πάρα 5/ in the nick of time)
Jose (Σαββατογεννημένες/ Women-Born-On-Saturday) vs Mpezos (actor)
Antonis (maestro in blue) vs Venizelos (old politician)
Tanimanidis (presenter) vs Rouvas (singer)
Thiramenis(ancient politician) vs Paris Skartsolias (actor)
Charon (Ουκ αν λαβοις πάρα του μη έχοντος/ You can't take from the one who doesn't have) vs Charis Romas (actor)
Socrates ( philosopher) vs Fotis (Happy together)
Sportacus (lazytown) vs Sotiris ( Είσαι το ταίρι μου/ You are my match)
Giannis Chatzigeorgiou (actor) vs Dionisis Atzarakis (comedian)
Katakouzinos (Konstantinos and Eleni's) vs Lampros Fisfis (comedian)
Platon (philosopher) vs Mouzourakis (singer)
Kapoutzidis (Actor) vs Karagiozis (Barbie's uncle) vs Kolokotrinis (soldier)
Since I have polls, that means GREEK SEXYMAN OF TUMBLR can begin
If you're not greek don't worry! You can vote too, I plan on putting photos next to each person so you can vote based on the vibes and their descriptions
First of all, here they are, the candidates
Gabriel vs Hermes (TV show: Ουκ αν λαβοις πάρα του μη έχοντος/ You can't take from the one who doesn't have)
Christopher Papakaliatis (actor/screenwriter) vs Lazaros (TV show: Είσαι το ταίρι μου/You are my match)
Deligiannis (old politician) Vs Aris Pavrinos (Fictional politician TV show: Πάρα πέντε/At the nick of time)
Andreas (TV show: Πάρα πέντε/At the nick of time) vs Gerasimos Skiaderesis (actor)
Jose (Σάββατογεννημένες /Women-born -on-Saturday) vs Menippos (Ουκ αν λαβοις πάρα του μη έχοντος/ You can't take from the one who doesn't have)
2J (YouTuber) Vs Mpezos (actor)
Antonis (Maestro in blue) vs Evaggelatos (News)
Venizelos (old politician) vs Konstantinos Emmanuel (influencer?)
George Theofanous (musician?idk someone recommended him) vs Sakis Tanimanidis(presenter)
Sakis Rouvas (singer) vs Manthos Foustanos (Konstantinou and Eleni's)
Thiramenes (ancient politician) vs Antonis Kanakis (presenter)
Ntanos (old survivor player) vs Paris Skartsolias (actor)
Charos(Ουκ αν λαβοις πάρα του μη έχοντος/ You can't take from the one who doesn't have) vs Eponimos (YouTuber)
Marios (survivor player) Charis Romas (actor)
Periandros Popotas (Το καφέ της Χαράς/Charas's Cafe) vs Socrates (Philosopher)
Fotis (Ευτυχισμένοι μαζί/ Happy together) Vs Alexis Kostalas (art presenter? Idk)
Fatseas (Tο καφέ της Χαράς/Charas's Cafe) vs Sportacus (Lazy town)
Trikoupis (old politician) vs Sotiris (Eίσαι το ταίρι μου/You are my match)
Giannis Chatzigeorgiou (actor) vs Spyros (Ευτυχισμένοι μαζί/ Happy together)
Dionysis Atzarakis (comedian) vs Aristotle (philosopher)
Konstantinos Katakouzinos (Konstantinou and Eleni's) vs Maraveyias (singer)
Lambros Fisfis (Comedian) vs Samuel Toci (influencer)
Platon (Philosopher) vs Makis (Ευτυχισμένοι μαζί/ Happy together)
Ex King Of Greece Konstantinos vs Mouzourakis (singer)
Giorgos Kapoutzidis (GodActor) vs Petretzikis (chef)
Karagiozis (Main character, barbie but poor) vs Mitsotakis (president)
Tsipras (ex president) vs Kolokotronis (commander/soldier idk)
The posts with each poll will have more descriptions
I'll pin this post, and update it each time with the results
Questions
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