#there's also a butch lesbian butcher

[viktorpartner]

Haven't been able to think about anything other than the victorian/edwardian/WW1 twink and his 80's punk almost-boyfriend for a week, send help

[thornedsidekick]

sorry i made my faves into lesbians. It will happen again

[fandoms-run-my-life]

For pride this year everyone should be watching Dead Boy Detectives on Netflix. 99% of the characters are either outright queer or queer coded.

Edwin - Gay

Charles - Queer (will be explored more in season 2 if we get one)

Crystal - Queer coded? (She starts to flirt with a girl (you know that one scene im talking about))

Niko - ???? (Find out next season maybe)

Monty - Queer

Jenny -Lesbian (goth butch butcher)

The Cat King - Queer

Ester - Queer vibes (that one scene with Crystal???)

Night Nurse - idk her deal but it doesn't give straight energy

Dandelion Sprites - Queer coded (nothing they did was straight)

It has a 30+ year slow burn.

It also has one of the best confession scenes I have ever seen in my life.

@neil-gaiman is a part of this show so you know it's handled well.

All I'm saying is if you like shows that ooze queer energy then definitely check out the Dead Boy Detectives on Netflix

[esoterichistoria]

confession: i wish lenore was butcher. as a butch lesbian i was so excited to see a gnc lesbian protag but now it seems like every new outfit they put her in is more feminine than the last. like did her dreamland outfit HAVE to include lipstick and high heels. i wish a female protagonist being masculine wasn't considered like...not "edgy" or "unique" enough for some people and they didn't have to also have feminine aspects to "balance them out"

I’m not a lesbian (I’m nonbinary sapphic) but I do lean more towards presenting masculine, and although I do have more “soft” feminine but still androgynous days. I really wish there were more gnc women not being afraid to be more masculine than what’s “expected” of them.

I did like her dreamland fit, but I can understand your point.

Something a little not Nevermore related but aughh, I could go on a whole rant about masculine women in media and in real life about how they’re treated by fans and people. I hate how they’re always seen as edgy, mean, just there to make the femme look good, cold and trying to “be a man” :[

It’s nice to see Lenore, a gnc masc woman, have a softer side and be allowed to show emotions and cry. It also reminds me of Vi from arcane.

[gaypolls]

*not that you ONLY like women of this gender expression, but just that this is your preference or like, if you had to pick a favorite.

also, the reason this is directed at lesbians specifically and not all wlw is to keep the factor of attraction to men from potentially skewing data.

[gooopy]

can i know abt scully!!!

!!!!!! OUUPIOUOOUUUGHHH GHOOGGHHG !!!!!! TYYY FOR ASKING!!!!!!!!! scullys awesome he is an oc ive had for a bit and had a lotta time to develop and is also a revamped version of an old oc from when i was young trying to avoid making mary sues!! ohh i likesss him hes awesome

so scully is a he/him butch lesbian with soso many issues and problems and shit. he was raised by his pa, a stern bitter old veteran, and scullys ma ran off after he was born. his pa was hard on him, he wanted a son anyhow and when scully started acting masculine he thanked God for givin him a broken daughter and started teaching scully how to be a man. unfortunately this included such beautiful wonderful things such as 'men dont cry' and 'caring for animals makes you look weak' and stuff like that. as a kid scullys pa started getting sick, and they were too poor to do anything about it living in a shack that his pa built, so scully dropped out of middle school and picked up an apprenticeship with a local butcher!!!! his pa was bedridden, so scully took the laz-e-boy that his pa usually slept in, started working, started smoking, and started cooking. his pa told him that cooking was a womans job but he was busy dying in bed and scully was able to steal the scraps from his job so they got by. scullys dad died, and scully dug his pa's grave and nailed together two boards to make a cross and he didnt cry. he just started sleeping in the bed again

but thats all background shit because nowadays this is whats important: scully would throw himself into a volcano if a woman told him to. he falls so utterly head over heels for any gal who so much as looks his way its FUCKED. in school the gals realized this and got him beatin other people up for their lunch money and scully was happy to do it. nowadays he would give a lady the shirt off his back for a kiss blown his way. he holds doors for people and he stumbles over his words and he talks while he smokes by tucking the cigarette in the corner of his mouth. he cooks a lot now, the kitchen in that little shack slowly taking over the whole place like a mold, and he feeds the scraps and bone and gristle to the stray dogs and cats.

he was an angry cruel kid and he was tempered into a kind, awkward, super mega autistic adult. AND! he brews the scariest hooch ever in his house its so scary looking dont drink it. he can still hold his own in a fight but will just take the hits unless its to help a lady, in which case he is letting out years of trauma and anger on your face to turn it into ground beef. hes awesome he has so many issues and he sucks and i love him. i havnt managed to shove him fully into the ebautiful world of tf2 yet (he originated from disco elysium!) but i think it would be funny if hes dating scouts ma and now scout has a new stepdad who keeps trying to be his pal but doesnt got a handle on the whole 'fatherhood' thing as a concept yet.

I DONT HAVE AN UP TO DATE REF OF HIM BUT YOU MUST KNOW THAT HE HAS BIG BEAUTIFUL BROWN COW EYES !!!!!! hes awesome hes fucked up. i have another drawing of him beating someone up but ill post that seperately because its got blood

[deathclawghoulie]

In more fun fallout related things, My OCs.

Sam(antha), most folks mistaken her for a male so she just goes by Sam usually. She was a biomedical major during the pre-war era and unfortunately was in out partying back in vegas right when the bombs drop, i guess a halloween party. She was sorta a party-goer type, being a medical major was stressful and shit. Eventually overtime she was ghoulified, and occasionally was a medic for random towns and villages.

Butch, is a gang leader, not sure of his real name butch is just for for butcher since he's known for butchering people with his knives, but he's also actually a chef too so he's really good with his knives and can be a bit of a connesuier specifically of kitchen knives. He's a bit questionable in his behavior, can't explain that. When he's not being a questionable scary gang leader he's probably figuring out wasteland foods like, radroach flour and using it for pastries or bread, trying to replicate pre-war foods but with resources of the wasteland.(edited)

I have two more that are also ghouls, they're radio DJ's. They're lesbians. One does the night show and another does the morning show, nighttime ghoul is tired always drinking coffee and daytime ghoul is preppy and cutesty, they somehow figured out how to get phonelines to work so they occasionally get insanely ridiculous calls from raiders. Butch is a melee based, Sam is a revolver and sniper.

Sam is my pfp. I don't have any art of them since I haven't drawn fallout art in yEARS. I'll see if I can find anything for Butch and Sam. I developed the DJs a few years ago while listening to a fallout playlist, never came up with their names though. I dont know why all my OCs are ghoul it sorta just happened that way.

[terezbian]

anybody else vaguely bothered by the pervasiveness of only using butches in canon man trans woman headcanons. Specifically he/him butches. not to say he/him lesbians + butches aren't beloved headcanons but it seems lazy and dismissive at best that the only he/him lesbian + butch headcanons you see are for canon man trans woman hcs + that the vast majority of canon man trans woman hcs are he/him AND butch. trans women headcanons can have changes to physical appearance and you should be willing to change how you refer to someone if they're trans this seems very obvious... also i think we should write about feminine tv women growing to know themselves and becoming butcher and/or using alt pronouns. Also i think it's rude to assume any butch woman will use alt pronouns or that any nb dyke (+etc) using he/him will be butch.

[butchladymaria]

11, 12, and 16 for the violence asks!! I need to know

OG POST HERE!!!

11. number of fandom-related words you’ve filtered

actually all 36 terms i have filtered are fandom-related lmao. honestly i use the filtering system as a way to clean up my dash. i sometimes filter a tag if someone i follow gets into a new thing that i’m ambivalent about or unfamiliar with. it means i can keep following them without seeing stuff i’m just not all that interested in yet but also (and especially) to avoid having something spoiled for me if i want to check it out in future! it also means that i can click the “show” button if i’m in the mood for something specific or want to learn more about it — go to their blog and just look for anything filtered :) this is literally the only way i know of to search a tumblr account for specific shit because the actual search function is Actually Useless Shit

16. the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them

man there’s so many picks here but i’d have to say annalise. she’s not unpopular as in actively disliked afaik, just more generally overlooked. i need to post more about her but like — she’s such a key piece of bloodborne’s themes around gender and motherhood and its a goddamn shame it doesn’t get talked about more!!! she feels like a foil to miss doll in many ways (editor’s note: i Went Off on this but it needs to be its own post, so rest assured i will elaborate lol). she’s such a goddamn tragic character. in so many ways it feels that she retreated into the role of the queen to cope with the loss of her people: there’s nothing left of her home besides that. she calls herself “we”, not “i”. she is the queen of cainhurst before she is a human being and it feels like a very visceral reaction to the bigotry of the church. she is trapped in the throne room in a nightgown — evidenced the fact that her portraits show her wearing period-typical gowns, and the attire she wears looks like historical sleepwear. it makes me fucking insane. she was wearing her nightgown when the executioners attacked. despite seeing everyone she ever knew and loved be butchered before her eyes, despite being reviled as a corrupted subhuman monstrosity, despite being imprisoned in complete solitude for god only knows how long, she still fucking demands your respect and i love her for it. she is canonically some flavor of queer on account of the fact she rejects your marriage proposal in an identical way regardless of gender. i am able to fulfill my fantasy of a beautiful vampire woman bossing me around thru her questline. what is not to fucking like!!!!

17. you can’t understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc.)

hands down probably the defanging of the women characters: chiefly maria, miss doll, and adella/arianna. like, i know WHY it happens (misogyny) but it’s still baffling to me. why are you making them waifus. follow up question is your taste honest to god just that boring, and if so get better soon. they’re so much cooler than that. shut the fuck up. maria is such a complex character and if i see another clown reducing her to some soft maternal wifey because… what, she was compassionate to the research hall patients and felt bad about doing uhhh *checks notes* A Whole Ass Genocide???? i will staple myself to the ceiling. like some folks will do the most absurd mental gymnastics to call a woman in any media maternal for the most basic things 😭. in a similar vein are the people who shit themselves to death trying to claim that she TOTALLY COULD HAVE BEEN a femmey little uwu housewife even though she has a canonical and marked preference for masc presentation, and actually a woman conforming to victorian gender roles and being attracted to men is an EPIC FEMINIST WIN, actually. usually this comes from cis and/or hets who are convinced they are personally oppressed because like 3 queers on tumblr said maria is a butch lesbian. having said that there are so many amazing artists and theorycrafters that when i was trying to link specific posts/art the list was actually a million years long. some people are annoying but MORE people are so cool and thoughtful and creative!!!!! shoutout to nishihii saintadeline butchjolyne and pretty much all the lgbtqs in the mariadeline tag, all of your work is like oxygen to me 💕 yall are amazing :)

it’s the same with miss doll. either their complexity is painted over by making her the butt of those insufferable sex doll jokes or they’re made out to be this pure innocent mommy/housewife. usually this is hand in hand with just blatantly ignoring the misogyny inherent to the dynamic between her, maria, and gerhman and i just have to wonder how anyone manages to so spectacularly miss the point. i wrote a forty page paper on this. needless to say it makes me insane. i’m also a big fan of YOUR theories on the matter for a different yet equally neat perspective :) also i think marble did a post on it but i cannot for my LIFE find it

also i cannot stress enough how lame it is that adella gets reduced to a flat stereotype. they took a violently traumatized woman who was groomed into loathing herself by the catholic blood cult and who desperately clings onto the hunter for showing her justo the most basic decency of not Leaving Her To Die and decided instead of any of that it would be way cooler to water her down into a “yandere”. same can be said for arianna. like istg if they were men ther would be ESSAYS. but then again if they were men their themes would literally not even be half as cool AND they couldn’t be lesbians so i am writing the essays myself. tl;dr i am absolutely OBSESSED with both @/jurasicass and @/undefeatablesin’s portrayals of both these ladies. finally some good fucking adella/hunter/arianna dynamics‼️‼️‼️

[forwomenbiwomen]

Hey! I hope this isn't weird. I've just started looking into radical feminism so I'm not familiar with all the terms to use/not use but this post/reblog on your account (https://www.tumblr.com/forwomenbiwomen/744343610494009344/moideater-baehraini-wow-lesbians-talking?source=share) reminded me of a sapphic book I read.

It was a historical romance and was very cute but there was this one side character - a woman - who was bisexual and also genderfluid. She went by the male and female version of her name and dressed in masculine clothing with her hair tucked away when she was identifying as a man or in femenine clothing when she was identiying as a woman. While she was a "man" she used he/him pronouns and while she was a woman she used "she/her" pronouns.  

Anyways, this character helped get other women (lesbian, bisexual, and straight) out of troublesome situations and whatnot by dressing as a man, and sometimes, these women would have sex with her. What I didn't understand is, the author was kind of implying that some of the women she helped had sex with her because they were attracted to the "male" version of her.

Which, wouldn't that mean they were most likely attracted to a "butcher" but still very much female version of her? Like, sexually, she wouldn't be able to have hetrosexual sex with them, she didn't have a male body or anatomy, and she wouldn't have been able to look like a man through medical treatments since was the literal 1800s. The women having sex with her know that they would also be having sex with another woman, thus, any expectation of "typical" sex between a man and a woman would be out the window. Wouldn't that mean that the women that sleep with her just think of her as a woman?

I remeber thinking, is genderfluidity just based on the types of clothes you wear or the way you hold yourself (at least based on this author's view)? Like, obviously women in the 1800s were treated like shit in society so there's no doubt she wanted to breakaway from that in whatver way, but I feel like the author missed out on a good opportunity to write a bout a rich woman from that time period who just wore whatver the fuck she wants and doesn't confirm to gender roles or expectations put on women during that time.

Anyways, if you got this far, thanks for reading this. It was definitley a bit of a drabble.

Hello lovely! <3 I've never heard of a book with that premise, it sounds like a totally missed opportunity for butch rep I agree 😭 you're also right that the author conveniently writes the characters having sex with that character as if they are having sex with a man, which....... Yeah huh??? How does that work. Where are all these 1800's wlw coming from and why are they in denial.

Also the ever-present "clothes = gender" thing going on here (side eye)

Haha a very warm welcome to radblr! You're eloquent and a good analyser so you'll fit right in here ;)

[rosalieisalive]

banban. if you will .. .

(im sorry if i butchered his design 😭)

BANBAN OMGG I LOVE HOW YOU DREW HIMM /VPOS

ALSO IT'S ALR I LOVE BUTCH BANBAN SHE'S THE ENBY LESBIAN EVERR !!

[erigold13261]

butch oleander definitely saw the incident different to morceau's cognition of it

I am... very confused on this ask. Because I'll be completely honest, when I saw this in my notifications cut off before I could read the whole ask, I though you were calling Oleander a butch woman/lesbian (which depending on headcanons can be valid).

But I think you mean the bunny incident(s) from his childhood. Though I don't understand what you are asking/saying when it comes to "butch oleader" and "morceau's cognition."

WAIT! NO! I'M JUST STUPID! BUTCH IS HIS DAD'S NAME! OMFG! XD

Okay okay okay! I understand now! OMG I can't believe that! HAHAHAHAHA. lol, well, As you can see, I'm not the most informed about Morceau Oleander, so some of the stuff I am going to say might be wrong. (to the point I forgot Oleander was his last name instead of his first, which is where my initial thoughts came from)

But yeah, Butch definitely sees it differently. He was most likely just doing his job as a butcher and selling rabbit meat. He could have talked to his son about his job a bit more instead of just killing rabbits he got attached to, but maybe he didn't realize how attached Oly was and didn't understand the psychological damage he was putting his son through.

Another thing is that, again he's just doing his job, but he purposely make Oly watch to toughing up his son. I doubt he wanted to fully traumatize Oly, but the business of butchering requires you not to get attached to the animals, especially if you are also raising them. So Oly being forced to watch the bunnies get butchered is something he would have been doing whether or not he could handle it.

And then Oly/Morceau, not understanding why this was happening and it was just the way of life, only saw pure little animals he loved being slaughtered. So yes, Morceau has a vastly different take on the situation than his father does.

[piercedpressure]

poorly summarizing my pcs (theyre all butch lesbians):

the butcher/marcelo bautista (he/she) - sad pathetic freak in the wet cat being lifted by the scruff way. hes also covered in blood, dont worry about it

robbie sunfall (they/he) - the type to do the anime "silly me" gesture right after unleashing terrifying mech tech thats never seen before

chrysanthemum espinosa (he/him) - think of a wizard. now imagine him as a mailman. with the energy of sans undertale. there we go

donnie ibarra (he/they) - if dave bautista had a wrestler kid who was also a superhero at the same time

tank (she/her) - shes got a chainsaw sword. what else do you want me to say

ricochet arsenal (he/him) - would wear assless chaps into battle and probably has. mostly for his robot wife

[aerisfelidae]

Wow its almost like lesbianism already encompassed NGC and NB and GF/BG identities and didn't need to be butchered in the first place??

It doesn't for everyone.

In the past decade alone there's been discourse claiming that "Being attracted to butches makes you basically straight", and arguments about whether trans women can be included in lesbianism, which should be enough to show that not everyone in the community includes Enby/NGC people or may "accept" them while not affirming their gender

If it encompasses that for you I'm really glad that you see it that way, that's how it should be! But the community isn't unified in that perception, and people affected by that exclusion are allowed to feel alienated and disconnected by those experiences.

Personally, I strongly associate it with womanhood, and it would make me feel dysphoric if a partner referred to me that way. Even if their perception validated me, I know other people would still hear it and perceive me as a woman. I am allowed that discomfort.

Like for what it's worth, I prefer the term queer to describe my relationships. But that's ALSO a term thats marred by discourse that people think shouldn't be used, so I'm not going to begrudge bi lesbians a label that they feel comfortable with.

Do we as a community have so few actual problems needing dealt with that we have to waste all that spare energy policing other queer identities?

[vole-mon-amour]

2x07.

The fact that she called them. Jfc.

But if he kissed a man, that wouldn't be ok. :/ They went full in with it, huh.

What a fucking asshole. Also, Butch kinds fits within my Johnny SIlverhand hc, lol.

What did she think would happen? Billy didn't want to see him for a reason. What's with the bad parenting in this show?

Yeah, he also raped Rebecca, so let's not forget that part. He probably didn't tell her. But if he did and she doesn't care, oh boy.

She's not a lesbian, Ashley.

Lady, your age is showing.

I wonder though, if John takes Ryan outside of those walls and Rebecca no longer has her son, can she go back to Butcher? Or will she be considered a threat by the company and be eliminated? But then they wouldn't be able to control Ryan I think. He loves his mom. At least for now, while he doesn't know the outside world.

Plus, I don't think Becca WOULD go back to Butcher? She's afraid to leave Ryan alone with Homelander? I wonder how they're gonna do it when Becca is dead.

The last time we saw him he could walk. What happened? Homelander? The actor got sick? What is it?

Really, Butcher? Really? :/

This is hilarious.

I like how Homelander tried to cover himself from the blood and brains. Not out of being terrified, just out of the Diva Doesn't Want To Get Bloodied. That move, that expression. A perfection.

Also, Ashley screaming "Do something!" while Homelander just sits there. Lol. So typical.

Oh, he's so amused. There's, like, 99% chance that it's Liberty's doing. Liberty, my ass.

[nieloxychen]

vamp and wolfie worldbuilding

vamp is now named anastacio “butch” de rojas! in this anachronistic fantasy world hes a greaser. rival gangs used to call him “the butcher” bc of his job, ruthlessnes and bc his diet consists mostly of rare meats and blood. anastacio did not care for that at all and started to cut ppl off (in various ways) when they called him that so often that they now call him butch. his gang thinks its funny bc hes honestly not traditionally masculin at all. theres a butch lesbian in his gang who is playfully annoyed that they didnt get that nickname. he was conscripted into the army as a spy (bc vampires are much more common and accepted in the enemy kingdom, so people already expect them to be traitors,,) and sent to the enemy kingdom when they learned of an impending war between the two kingdoms. he quickly joined the enemy kingdoms army and rose through the ranks to the point that the queen openly favoured him. which was really helpful for his spying and also led to anastacio meeting shepard...

shepards (wolfie) full name is shepard connor and he is a farm boy and shepherd. he grew up in a small border village between the two kingdoms, which was officially part of the “enemy kingdom” and was kidnapped a few months before the war started. anastacio and shepard arrvied in the enemy kingdoms capital city around the same time but by very different means and reasons. shepard and a few others were used in experiments to create werewolves that were always in “wolf” form. the goal was to use them as bodyguards and an elite fighting team, loyal and vicious and easy to condition and control. the process was torturous and many victims were completly overwhelmed by their new instincts and lost themselves. shepard was lucky and didnt, but that allowed him to be aware of the fact that no one should know that. him and the other successful “mutts” (as they were unofficially called) of the first batch were given to the queens favoured as personal guards and servants, with shepard being assigned to anastacio...

anastacio feels understandably uncomfortable with the situation and does his best to treat shepard well, as well as not attract attention for not being a fan of the whole human experimentation thing. shepard notices this and after a few weeks the two start to figure eachother out. shepard discovers that anastacio is a spy and anastacio realizes that shepard has retained himself where most other mutts didnt. after some careful testing eachother out, they start to work together. shepard as a mutt, is not seen as someone who can retain information more complicated than simple orders. so he helps gather further information for anastacio, while anastacio gives him information on shepards family and gives him resources to relearn any skills he lost through the changes he was put through.

im not sure how or why exactly yet, but they get captured by soldiers from anastacios kingdom and anastacio is imprisoned in order to keep him being a spy secret. but im not sure what would make sense to happen to shepard... the kingdom prides itself on being like.. nice? but that doesnt mean they want to openly admit to knowing that shepard and others are not willing combatants or something. i know that the two are going to be seperated until after the end of the war though. after the war, anastacio is quietly released from prison and leaves the kingdom for a third one that wasnt involved in the war at all. shepard is able to leave as well and travels to try and find anastacio. he eventually does and they live together from then on!!

i think anastacios gang would want to get answers from him, considering he left a cryptic message for them (so they wouldnt be in danger), disappeared for years and is then very publicly jailed for being a ""traitor"". his family would have publicly denounced him the moment he was arrested, largely because people were already assuming them to be traitors. anastacio also doesnt have much of a relationship with his family and hasnt talked with them in about a decade. so they have no idea what his character is like apart from occasionally hearing of his gangs exploits. shepards family would not look for him... disappearances are semi-common and especially those without influence and power would prefer to believe that their loved ones were killed by the animals that are a danger anyways. rather than focus on them not ever really knowing what happened to them, if they suffered or not. maybe one or two family members or friends would try to find shepard, but the majority of the people that knew him before his transformation prefer to think he is dead.