#then plvpw then dgs1 then dgs2

[alto-tenure]

so a while ago I made a list of how every victim falls in Ace Attorney to determine the most common cause of death. this includes assaults/attempted murders (e.g. Edgeworth being attacked in The Kidnapped Turnabout, DGS1-4, DGS2-2, LV-1)

TL;DR: Stabbing is the most common, followed by gunshot and blunt force trauma.

the dissection is under the cut; spoilers for every game

STABBING: 20

Jack Hammer (Turnabout Samurai)

Bruce Goodman (Rise from the Ashes)

Neil Marshall (Rise from the Ashes)

Terry Fawles (Turnabout Beginnings)

Misty Fey (Bridge to the Turnabout)

Rex Kyubi (The Monstrous Turnabout)

Constance Courte (Turnabout Academy)

Clay Terran (The Cosmic Turnabout)

Metis Cykes (Turnabout for Tomorrow)

Manov Mistree (The Magical Turnabout)

Tahrust Inmee (Rite of Turnabout)

Inga Karkhuul Khura’in (Turnabout Revolution)

Byrne Faraday (Turnabout Reminiscence)

Manny Coachen (Turnabout Ablaze)

Horace Knightley (The Imprisoned Turnabout)

Mason Milverton (The Adventure of the Runaway Room)

Olive Green (The Adventure of the Clouded Kokoro)

Jezaille Brett/Asa Shinn (The Adventure of the Blossoming Attorney)

Odie Asman (The Return of the Great Departed Soul)

Klint van Zieks (The Resolve of Ryunosuke Naruhodo)

GUNSHOT: 19

Robert Hammond (Turnabout Goodbyes)

Gregory Edgeworth (Turnabout Goodbyes)

Manfred von Karma (Turnabout Goodbyes)

Turner Grey (Reunion, and Turnabout)

Pal Meraktis (Turnabout Corner)

Romein Letouse (Turnabout Serenade)

Thalassa Gramarye (Turnabout Succession)

Dhurke Sahdmadhi (Turnabout Revolution)

Buddy Faith (Turnabout Visitor)

Colin Devorae/Oliver Deacon (The Kidnapped Turnabout)

Mack Rell (Turnabout Reminiscence)

Deid Mann (Turnabout Reminiscence)

Shi-Long Lang (Turnabout Ablaze)

Ethan Rooke (Turnabout Target)

Di-Jun Huang (The Grand Turnabout

John Wilson (The Adventure of the Great Departure)

Pop Windibank (The Adventure of the Unspeakable Story)

Herlock Sholmes (The Adventure of the Unspeakable Story)

Tobias Gregson (Twisted Karma and His Last Bow)

Genshin Asogi (The Resolve of Ryunosuke Naruhodo)

BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA: 15

Cindy Stone (The First Turnabout)

Mia Fey (Turnabout Sisters)

Phoenix Wright (The Lost Turnabout)

Russel Berry (Turnabout Big Top)

Kane Bullard (The Stolen Turnabout)

Zak Gramarye (Turnabout Trump)

Paht Rohl (The Foreign Turnabout)

Archie Buff (Turnabout Revolution)

Dumas Gloomsbury (Turnabout Time Traveler)

Miles Edgeworth (The Kidnapped Turnabout)

Ka-Shi Nou (Turnabout Ablaze)

Isaac Dover (The Inherited Turnabout)

Jill Crane (The Forgotten Turnabout)

Jack Cameron (The Grand Turnabout)

Kazuma Asogi (The Adventure of the Speckled Band)

Olivia Aldente (The English Turnabout, PLVPW)

FIRE: 6

Robbs (PLVPW)

Muggs (PLVPW)

Kira (PLVPW)

Maya Fey (PLVPW)

Arthur Cantabella (PLVPW)

Jove Justice (Turnabout Revolution)

POISON: 5

Glen Elg (Recipe for Turnabout)

Diego Armando (Turnabout Beginnings?)

Drew Misham (Turnabout Succession)

William Shamspeare (The Memoirs of the Clouded Kokoro)

Newton Belduke (PLVPW)

FALLING: 3

Dustin Prince (The Lost Turnabout)

Akbey Hicks (Turnabout Airlines)

Jack Shipley (Turnabout Reclaimed)

ELECTROCUTION: 3

Maya Fey (Turnabout Goodbyes)

Phoenix Wright (Turnabout Goodbyes)

Doug Swallow (Turnabout Memories)

CAR ACCIDENT: 3

Selina Sprocket (Turnabout Time Traveler)

Sorin Sprocket (Turnabout Time Traveler)

Carmine Accidenti (PLVPW)

SUFFOCATION: 2

Juan Corrida (Farewell, My Turnabout)

Taifu Toneido (Turnabout Storyteller)

EXPLOSION: 2

Candice Arme (Turnabout Countdown)

Apollo Justice (Turnabout Countdown)

CRUSHED: 1

Di-Jun Huang’s Body Double (The Grand Turnabout)

TRANSFORMATION: 1

Hershel Layton (PLVPW)

OTHER NOTES:

I honestly thought blunt force trauma would be the highest when I first listed these. I was wrong!

I know (MAJOR PLVPW SPOILERS) that no one in PLVPW actually died except Newton Belduke, but I still felt as though it was prudent to list them here as victims.

Tasing is a form of electrocution.

Technically, falling and getting crushed could both be forms of blunt force trauma, but “blunt force trauma” is more “something hits you” than “you hit something” imo? I think it’s a distinction worth making.

There are a lot fewer poisonings than I thought. I didn’t know whether to put Diego’s poisoning under Memories or Beginnings, so I put both.

Simon Keyes was pretty inventive tbh

English Turnabout is the only case in PLVPW with a proper name. I generally ID the chapters with court segments as the ones that are the “case names”, which works for every case but the last.

I might have missed some? I know for sure I missed the original Di-Jun Huang, but I couldn’t find his cause of death poking around the wiki. Let me know if I missed any more!

[splashtailstar]

Unfortunately vi could not include Pursuit ~ Cornered 2004 [AA3], Pursuit ~ Wanting to Find the Truth [AAI2], Pursuit ~ Cornered (English Court) [PLVPW], Pursuit ~ Casting Magic [PLVPW], or Overture to Pursuit [DGS2] as actual options as there was not enough room

[mukuharakazui]

SOrry if you've been asked this before but since you're the one person I follow who's into Ace Attorney I can't help but ask. What's the best way to get into it?? I've seen the gameplay from RT but I know there's more and have no clue where to start. I only just realized there's an anime. For the love of God help me I want more of funny lawyer game. Thank u

i got you 😼 most of what i can say is the order in which to play/watch the games. whether you play the games yourself or watch a no-commentary or commentary let's play is up to you. playing the games yourself is more immersive and forces you to actually use your brain though which is why i joke around saying i suspect a lot of aa fans on tumblr and twitter have watched let's plays with commentary by the lowest of the low e.g. the game grumps. but especially if you don't have the money/don't know how to pirate then there's nothing wrong w watching a let's play.

here's the order of the games in terms of the TIMELINE, with the exception of plvpw and dgs/tgaa. this is how i would recommend playing them instead of in order of release dates. this is mostly because the transition directly from aa3 to aa4 can be VERY jarring in terms of interpreting phoenix's character as well as general timeline-based context, as well as the sudden jump from the more modern setting in the mainline games + aai to the older setting in dgs. this is why i put aai1+2 between aa3 and aa4 and plvpw between soj and dgs1+2. note that if you do jump around, you should go through the games in chunks of the trilogy (aa1-3), aai (1+2), the post-trilogy mainline games (aa4-6), dgs (1+2), and plvpw. mostly because for example it'd be kind of weird to play dgs in the middle of aai1 and aai2, considering thay aai2 happens like a week or two aftee aai1 and dgs happens in the meiji period (victorian era).

•phoenix wright: ace attorney. the first game. pretty standard, the big classic and where most of the memes come from. abbreviated to pwaa or aa1.

•phoenix wright: ace attorney- justice for all. the second game. really good and really bad at the same time (you'll know exactly what i mean if/when you go through it.) abbreviated to aa2 or jfa.

•phoenix wright: ace attorney- trials and tribulations. the third game. gets really fucking complicated but in a super cool way. abbreviated to aa3 or t&t.

•ace attorney investigations: miles edgeworth. the first investigations game, which isn't part of the "main line" of aa games. honestly pretty dull in terms of story relative to the rest of the aa series but GREAT for characters and interactions, plus it introduced some new gameplay styles. abbreviated to aai or aai1*.

•ace attorney investigations: miles edgeworth 2 (unofficially localized subtitle of "prosecutor's path"). still has no no official localization. regarded by a considerable number of fans including myself to be the best game in the aa series. literally so fucking good. please play aai2. abbreviated to aai2 or rarely gk2.

•apollo justice: ace attorney. now we're back to the main line of games. shu takumi originally wanted to introduce a new cast of characters and say goodbye to the old ones besides phoenix, who makes an interesting "new" character. however, after he stopped writing for the games, the other writers basically ignored his wish in later games. anyways, apollo is the protagonist now and he's just a guy with anxiety. also this game gets my personal vote for best soundtrack in the series. abbreviated to aj or aa4.

•phoenix wright: ace attorney- dual destinies. yeah, phoenix is back in the title. woooooah it's in 3d now. they butcher apollo halfway to hell. at least we get athena here, though. i love her. it's easy to see it as kind of a mediocre game because the start and finish were very lacking, but the middle was jam-packed tbh. abbreviated to aa5 or dd.

•phoenix wright: ace attorney- spirit of justice. bringing back and butchering edgeworth in ddvwasn't enough. now they had to do it to maya, too. don't even get me started on the colorism going on in this game. a very polarizing game, some consider it a perfect addition to the series while others (including myself) see it as having some of the poorest storytelling and gameplay in the series. at least the turnabout sisters remaster nearly made me cry though. anyways it's abbreviated to aa6 or soj.

•professor layton vs. phoenix wright: ace attorney. this game is optional but super fun if you're into professor layton as well as ace attorney, or honestly just either one of them. this is a game you should DEFINITELY play for yourself as opposed to watching a let's play because it's a puzzle/adventure game as well as just a visual novel. abbreviated to plvpw:aa, plvpwaa, and plvpw.

•the great ace attorney (recently localized with the subtitle "adventures"). just what one would expect and more, imo. very entertaining while far more grounded than later mainline games (thank goodness). i love most of the characters especially iris she's my daughter i am adopting her now. abbreviated to dgs, dgs1, tgaa, tgaa1, and now probably tgaaa.

•dai gyakuten saiban 2/the great ace attorney 2 (recently localized with the subtitle "resolve"). finally. the official localization is here. it was a meme for so long. anyways, this is also known as one of the best games in the series alongside (if not behind or ahead of) aai2. the hype was totally worth it. abbreviated as dgs2, tgaa2, and now probably tgaar.

NOTES:

•games 1-3 are known as "the trilogy" because. well. they're the original 3 games.

•ace attorney investigations 1-2 are simply just called "investigations" and the series was originally going to focus on ema skye instead of miles edgeworth.

•rise from the ashes is a dlc case which goes along with the first game, also the only officially localized case without "turnabout" in the title. prior to the release of apollo justice, people argued over whether or not it was canon because it contradicted some pieces of the games or was missing certain things. a lot of things were retconned.

•you do NOT have to play dgs last. if you want to get into it earlier, especially considering the hype, i wouldn't even warn against playing it BEFORE the trilogy and other games. playing it right before or after the investigations games is cool too. everything besides the placement of dgs though i would recommend as the play order.

•this probably seems like a LOT of information but it's really easy to understand once you get into it. it does not NOT feel like as long or complex of a series once you play the games and understand the very vague ties between each "section" of the series. in fact, a lot of ace attorney fans have NOT played/watched every single game. some people haven't played dgs, some people haven't played investigations. hell, some people have only gone through the trilogy. just make sure to have fun and not try to rush or force yourself! that'll just make the whole experience unenjoyable. i've known a few people who've started the series and stopped because they decided it just wasn't for them, which is totally fine.

*was referred to as "perfect prosecutor" by fans prior to official localization, as a nod to the alliteration in the original "ace attorney" title, but no one calls it that anymore.

[iatheia]

Ace attorney rankings

AAI2 - one of the two game in which every single case delivered 100%

DGS2 - Shares the same rank as above. The only issue with it is that it is physically impossible to sustain the hype of the last two trials for 12+ hours straight. It is exhausting, and more than a little bit tiring. Excellent, amazing, even mindblowing, but exhausting. And what a shame it is that the best games in the franchise will never get an official translation, though I am desperately waiting for the fan translations of this game to replay it for myself.

AA3:TT - perfect game ruined by the prosecutor. Loved every case, but the rage in my heart over the second half of the last case could not be concealed.

DGS1 - Wonderful beginning and ending that make me willing ignore somewhat dissatisfying middle.

AA6:SoJ - same as TT. At least Godot had style, Mr Sad Monk had nothing. Hated the last case with burning passion. Though, features some of my most favorite cases as well.

AA2:JfA - doesn’t have as many highs, but doesn’t have any particular lows, either.

AA1 - an excellent introduction to the characters, but some of the cases don’t work all that well.

PLvPW -  as much as I loved some of the cases, my desire for Estella to die in a fire has grown with her every appearance, and the ending is quite bad.

AAI1 - enjoyable, solid, if a bit drawn out, especially near the end.

AA5:DD - loved the new characters to bits, loved what was done with the old characters, but the gameplay suffered from being too streamlined, and the last two trials ruin the game for me as a whole, can’t say I enjoyed the rest outside of the DLC all that much.

AA4:AJ - unsatisfying from the beginning to the end. Questionable logic. And as much as I love the new cast, they don’t make much sense until later games.