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I want to ask about elves!!
What do you think the particular motives of the feanorians who pushed for the second and third kinslayings were? I mean C and C were probably bitter but do you think it went deeper than that?
Why do you think their followers went along with it, twice?!
YAY ASK ABOUT ELVES I HAVE NO INHIBITIONS ATM AND WILL ANSWER ANYTHING
hmmm yeah I think C&C’s bitterness was the main thing – but also the Nirnaeth was such a turning point. Maedhros failed in every way imaginable. He had lost all his personal and political authority, and ofc Fingon was dead (not to mention his close friend Azaghâl and ally Bór! like Fingon’s death was the Main Thing but it wasn’t the ONLY thing) so I really don’t think he was in a state to restrain C&C from doing what they wanted to (and Celegorm is explicitly named as the leader in the 2nd Kinslaying). But the Nirnaeth was where Maedhros and his brothers put all their eggs in the basket of “get the two Silmarils that Morgoth holds instead of the one held by other elves” – and when that effort failed so dramatically, they were like “welp might as well try the one that’s gonna be easier to get hold of”.
In but two remain I put forward the argument that it was Amras who argued most strongly for attacking Sirion – which is partly backed up by an early draft where the twins (then “Damrod” and “Diriel”) are the ones who push for the 3rd Kinslaying, with M&M only going through with it reluctantly. “Don’t let our brothers fall into Everlasting Darkness for the sake of your faulty conscience” is imo pretty compelling reasoning.
Of course this doesn’t answer the question of why their followers went along with it – and in fact we have two extremes, the servant of Celegorm who abandoned Dior’s sons to die in the Second Kinslaying, and the Fëanorian followers who turned on their own lords in the Third Kinslaying. I don’t really have a good answer for why these people went along with their orders for as long as they did (and I am WAY too drunk to make a stab at figuring it out now). But tbh I think if you were still following the Fëanorians post-Nirnaeth, when they were “scattered like leaves in the wind”, you probably weren’t very normal anyway.
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3, 9, 10 for the ask game. The tolkien fandom (and canon) has a lot of... takes, so i'm interested to hear your opinions!
(choose violence ask game)
did 3 and 10 here!
9. worst part of canon
look I know there's been some pushback on this take but Tolkien... really isn't great with women. Yes, the female characters he writes are fascinating and complex when he can be bothered to write them; they're also often props in male characters' stories. The most egregious example of this is Aredhel's death imo - what little we know about her is SO interesting but like. her story mainly takes place in the chapter titled "Of Maeglin", and her death is really just part of Maeglin's tragic backstory, not as a culmination to any arc of her own. Finduilas gets this treatment too, and it's really the combined weight of their fridging that bothers me. Kill these women if you have to! But make it because their own tragic flaws caused their demises, not to make the dark-haired emo boy even sadder.
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hello I was the previous anon, sorry about my weird phrasing but I wasn't sure what type of getting the orcs were going to do
anyway please accept this shit comic I made of how I imagine this scene
fingon: quit telling people I'm dead
curufin: sometimes I can still hear his voice
I need to send this before I decide I hate it
I need to tell you that this is quite simply the best thing that has happened to me in many days and I am absolutely SPEECHLESS with joy!!! My silly little fic got a COMIC this is amazing and also you’re the funniest person on tumblr ❤️❤️ this is exactly how it went down
And your phrasing wasn’t weird at all, that was just me making a vague and not very good joke (and also trying to avoid spoilers: WILL they get got by orcs??)
Thank you so much again this is just brilliant and I’m so incredibly honoured ❤️❤️
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I saw that idea and I had to do it
I wanted him to look like the dog on the original poster but his eyes turned out huge which is vaguely disturbing! I tried to do the eyes looking in the same directions as the dog's but it was so funny looking I couldn't
Anyway here's the original image
I LOVE THIS SO MUCH THANK YOU THIS IS EVERYTHING AND HE’S SO CUTE
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📝 and 💗 for the ask game please!
(WIP It Good ask game)
Did 💗 here!
📝Share a snippet of an unposted WIP, with or without context.
Without context it is! Have some Russingon.
Maedhros sighed and brought his fingers up to rest on Fingon’s head. “Beloved,” he said carefully, “I have been where you are, you know.” “Oh?” Fingon asked, more bitterly than he intended. “When my father died,” said Maedhros, “and left all of it on my shoulders – I know how overwhelming it feels.” “It is different,” said Fingon. “My father loved me.” It was cruel, perhaps one of the cruellest things he had ever said to Maedhros; and he could see that the barb had struck, for the uneven line of Maedhros’ shoulders was suddenly tense. But in response he only said, mildly, “He did – perhaps even as well as you deserve.” “Then why,” said Fingon, “then why did he—” Tears were stinging at his eyes. He closed them before they could fall, and pulled Maedhros into another kiss. Maedhros sighed into his mouth again, but when Fingon’s hand began to drift from Maedhros’ back down to his hip, he pulled away and then stood up.
Thank you for the ask <3
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🌤️ and ☔ for the wip ask game
(WIP ask game)
🌤️Share your favorite piece of dialogue from your WIP.
I like most of the dialogue in sore must be the storm (which is the only reason I keep working on it, that thing is SO HARD) but here's a random little snippet of it:
“You do not know everything,” said Fingon. “You are not always right.” “I rather think I am wrong oftener than most people,” said Maedhros. “So you say!” said Fingon. “So you say. But that is all an affect. In public you will happily claim every mistake you ever made and several you did not, as though Thingol of Doriath was ever moved to pity by the Noldolantë. But in your heart you maintain the conviction that you know best, and yet you must labour to protect the ignorance of us poor fools who have not seen true darkness.”
☔Is there a fic concept you have that you'd like to just explain and share because you're not sure you'll ever write it? If so, what is it?
Another one!! One of the first ideas I actually noted down on my Sticky Note was a Russingon WW1 AU featuring lots of blood and angst and drama, and probably a version of the rescue from Thangrododrim, and historically accurate detail, and possibly Maglor as the framing narrator, and possibly a lot of epistolary sections (if the entire thing isn't epistolary), and period-typical homophobia and probably an eventual happy ending. The vibes of this fic are SO CLEAR TO ME OK. But it would be so much work to research and plan out and write, especially because I don't know much about WW1. Its title would be no morning glory, from the Taylor Swift song The Great War which was written about them.
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11 and 50 for the ask game?
(fic ask game!)
11. Are you partial to a certain character/pairing or are you more equal-opportunity? If you are partial to any character/pairing, why do you think that is?
I definitely play favourites! In silmfic Maglor and Maedhros are my two preferred characters – in almost any piece of media I enjoy I will latch on to the tragic codependent siblings, they make my brain go fuzzy. “I don’t see why everyone is so obsessed with romance,” eleven-year-old-me used to think disgustedly, “that’s BORING and OVERDONE, my favourite person in the world is the small sibling anyway, I am going to be COOL and DIFFERENT and invest all my creative energy into writing about angsty sibling relationships!” To my lasting mortification, eleven-year-old-me was right. (And the small sibling is still my favourite person in the world.) Anyway. M&M are both fascinating characters separately, but it’s their doomed and guilt-ridden relationship that gets me, which is not a surprise to me.
50. Answer any question of your choice, or talk about anything you want to talk about!
I… think I’m just going to ramble about tfs here because when do I not do that (and you’re now the fic’s official artist so ❤️). Hmm what are today’s thoughts. Let’s talk about Maglor because his storyline so far has been quite important to me actually! Maglor was badly injured at the end of Part 1 and has been basically bedridden since; nonetheless, with the exception of Parts 2 and 3 when he was unconscious, he’s taken a pretty significant role throughout. This is quite deliberate. As I’ve groused on tumblr recently, I have a chronic pain condition myself (not the sort that leaves me bedridden thankfully but it still isn’t fun) and I like the idea of a character being able to make important, plot-changing decisions while being confined to a sickbed; I like exploring how there are so many more ways than physical action to affect the narrative. Maglor can’t fight at present – he can barely walk, in fact – but he’s still achieved a lot! Winning Lúthien’s friendship (and her pity), trying to get the Silmaril back from Thingol, although admittedly that didn’t work, resisting the Oath long enough to get through the Girdle again; most of these moments have been relatively undramatic but they’re all there and Significant. And Maglor seemed like a good character to give this arc to because his greatest weapon has always been his voice, his charm and persuasiveness and, when that fails, his sincerity.
I jokingly called him a pincushion because I do feel bad about that whole lil stabbing incident – but in a way his whole story in tfs has been about being a pincushion, and doing interesting and important things anyway!
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20 and 25 for the ask game?
(fic writer ask game)
20. What’s a favorite title for a fic you’ve written?
I’m not usually that satisfied with my fic titles, but I think in the breaking is a good one! The line in canon, of course, is “Then the Everlasting Darkness shall be our lot, whether we keep our Oath or break it; but less evil shall we do in the breaking.” And the fic itself is canon compliant, so titling it after the breaking of the Oath, the thing Maedhros and Maglor are notably Not doing, might seem weird at first – but what I was trying to get at was that this little scene is actually about the breaking of them, the slow unravelling of Maedhros and Maglor and of their relationship. The way keeping the Oath is actually what destroys them 💔
25. Have you ever upset yourself with your own writing?
Yes! Not that often, but sometimes. In tfs when Maedhros was having his delusional episode his POV was genuinely very very painful to write and I had to keep taking breaks from the writing to recover. Poor baby I put him through so much :( gleefully plans more torture for him
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feanor or finwe for the ask game?
(character ask game!)
Did Feanor here.
one aspect about them I love:
This is tricky because I am not a Finwe fan. I guess I like the whole "intrepid king who led his people across the ocean to a new land of plenty" thing?
one aspect I wish more people understood about them
Tbh I think most of the fandom agrees with me on this but Finwe was a terrible parent. His favouritism failed all his children. And blaming Feanor - who was, according to almost all versions of canon except one that makes timelines very difficult to reconcile, a very young child when Miriel died and Finwe remarried - for all this is... not great.
one (or more) headcanon(s) I have about this character
He was, in fact, an excellent and universally beloved grandfather! So he did get it right eventually, it just took him an extra generation.
one character I love seeing them interact with
Most of his grandchildren! I think I'm going to go with Maedhros again though. All those delicious Finwe-Third Finwe dynamics.
one character I wish they would interact with/interact with more
Miriel, perhaps. She dies so early on the story, but I'd love to know more about their marriage.
one (or more) headcanon(s) I have that involve them and one other character
He taught Maglor a lot of very ancient songs from Cuivienen that had mostly fallen out of fashion in Tirion by that time. Later, when Maglor wound up in Beleriand, those songs were pretty crucial in the early days of bridging the language gap with the Mithrim Sindar.
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for the ship ask game finduilas/nienor and erendis/aldarion :)
Finduilas/Nienor - excellent and lovely and perfect!! except it could never have happened which makes me sad. give me more of those fix-it AUs always. I can't remember who made that post recently saying that Turin saw Finduilas as a sister when she wanted to be his wife and saw Nienor as wife material when she was of course his actual literal sister; but they were so right for that and this makes the ship SO SO JUICY. they both deserved so much better :(
Erendis/Aldarion - ohhhh they are SO. the complexity!! The Mariner's Wife is such a virtuosic depiction of a failing marriage actually - the dynamics are so so fascinating and tragic. Aldarion PLEASE be less of an idiot (but also I still sympathise with him often??).
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