#the trainee final ep fanmeet

[offjumpoladulkittiporn]

off's smirk 😏🤭💚

[ryansjane]

can't wait 🥰💚

[whstletomyheart]

Why YG TREASURE BOX is a complete mess and YG is playing with us. (A rant?)

First, its important to understand what or YGTB is and how it was promoted for this we should understand the events that happened before.

NOTE: YG will be referred to as a they since there are other people besides YHS Making the Decisions.

All of YG’s boy groups were made through survival shows.

BIGBANG=BIGBANG DOC

WINNER=WIN

IKON=WIN/M&M

So it was pretty obvious that they would reuse this concept for their new bg.

Now its safe to assume that the group was set to be made around Bang Yedam, he’s popular in Korea plus that he was the moat famous trainee .

Now this is the general assumption that the original silver boys lineup ot11 were the lineup set up to debut. This is the reason why they were promoted through Mixnine (GonSukKyu) and Stray Kidz (YG vs JYP). But we all know Mixnine failed and that some trainees left making YG To rethink their concept and lineup.

Now we must remember that prior to the show starting YG teased that Yedam, Hyunsuk and Raesung were basically confirmed members.

Raesung, due to personal reasons decided to not participate in the show (the best decisions honestly).

Currently YG as a company is at a point were every fandom in it has problems with the company. This is all due to the amount of mismanagement towards the majority if not all the groups and artists. YG despite being the house of great and unique artists doesn’t know how to mange them which leads to long hiatus, less music and cbs,etc.

Now lets analyze the problems with the shows format. Moat idol survival shows have the same format. Which is simply individual competition. This means that the contestants will be evaluated and the voting will be individual or 1 pick (produce 101).

YGTB showed the beginning to be more a team survival show in other words a group compete with other groups (Win). But around the second and third episode its revealed that the show will be individual, shifting the format. This is first seen strange since a consistent theme in YGs previous groups is their teamwork but this is because since predebut the trainees are grouped into groups.

In the show we are never truly explained about how the show works and if it is its vague and very contrictdactory. Plus a lot of unfair and frankly weird things are shown ( compared to other survival shows)

Examples of this are:

• Number of final lineup is always changing: from 7 to 9 to 7 to 6 to 5 to 7 it would change depending the mood od the ceo.

• YHS changes rules at whim: YHS changes or adds rules

• Missions: the missions to compete against the treasure team were barely explained. Winpink came to the show mostly just for name Dropping cause they didn’t show why they chose who they chose. The ep were winner 2seung was going to examine their performances was cut to almost nothing more than click Bait.

• The rounds or missions made little sense , at the beginning it 1:1 , then 2:2 (duo), then team genre(?)/concept (in my opinion they weren’t that different in my opinion to be a concept eval but oh well)and putting a position battle at the end ……makes little sense

In Produce and other shows its usually a cover, position, concept and then original song evaluation. Showing the growth.

• Lack of original ygtb songs most survival shows make their own songs fir the concept and final evaluations (example Mixnine). YG is company that prides on self production but not once was this used despite various trainee being able to ( Yedam, Hyunsuk, Byounggon, Asahi, Yoshinori, etc.) . Even if the boys couldn’t yg producers could’ve made songs just like in Mixnine.

• Lack of fan events besides liking a trainees video and channel there weren’t chances for the fans to feel really close to them. With the individual channels they could’ve done random lives but no. Or fanmeetings.

Despite this the show did release a series of interesting content that honestly saved the show.

• Not letting all the trainees participate in the treasure swap and cutting and not airing the performances certain trainees made. Leaving the fans to have to watch fancams.

Now to explain the real mess, throughout the whole show fans were confused on how they could help their faves in terms of voting. YG opens voting till the last 2 episodes and makes it a group voting meaning you have to vote for a group of trainees. According to fans this means that the lineup with most votes will have an advantage to debut. On the last ep its revealed that Isn’t case at all. The trainees only got extra points depending on how many ranks or lineups they were in. In other words again it was individual voting. They didn’t explain this till ep 10 when the voting’s was done. Along with this they added the final nail to the coffin. These online votes were only worth 20% of the final score. With onsite votes at a 30%. But YHS gets 50% of the score, so basically YHS gets to choose at the end od the day so fan votes mean close to nothing. If a trainee did well on votes but isn’t YGs fave they wont pass and vice versa.

On top of all of this YG makes sure fans aren’t in the recording of the ranking to obviously avoid discord and only announces half the lineup for what we can only assume is for drama. Only YG and some staff know the lineup. Instead of releasing it all its adding more anxiety and desperation . Which can be seen in the fighting, the rumors and spamming.

Now that we’ve established that YGTB is a mess of a show that makes Mixnine look good, lets talk about favoritism and screentime. And why I don’t understand YGs intentions and the lineup.

Ok let get this out of the way YG/YHS always plays favorites, this isn’t new at all. We can see in the show that there are trainees YHS likes way more compared to others. In other words he tends to be very biased. On top that he likes to brag. The first ep is basically look at all the visuals I got.

All it takes is to watch the show to know who Yg/YHS like more baaed on screentime and arcs made. Lets Look at the confirmed members most got solid screentime. Yedam is pushed from the get go to being a super star trainee that is basically god where other trainees don’t want to be against him. Junkyu is cute and talented a good future asset, we see how he gets screentime from the start with his confidence arc. Plus its important to note that in Mixnine YHS’s fave was Junkyu . Haruto from the start was the Japanese trainee YG was interested in and he Gets the most screentime from the Japanese trainees. Jeongwoo was promoted through his vocal and how yg likes him, he gets attention. Junghwan On the other hand gets way less screentime then the other member but still way more than other less known trainees.

That being said a lot of the team b, team c and team j trainees get very little to no screentime. Jongseob who won Kpop Star didn’t get much screentime and performance was cut. Mashiho’s screentime is mostly reactions or being a friend.

Silver boys got the most screentime overall they focused a lot on their teamwork and bond giving fans the hope that they would debut. Which is were im frankly confused and would love to understand the why.

Why make silver boys participate in this show and emphasize so much on them for basically nothing?

Why bring Jihoon back?

Why bring Seunghun back?

After hours and hours of thinking and reading opinions. I came to a few theories:

A) YG wants to debut a fresh, young and visual new bg. For whatever reason, so choosing the younger trainees makes sense. Probably modeled around Yedam for a more pop sound in comparison to WinKon Some accounts state that a lot of kfans were pushing yg for a younger and visual group. Basically discarding the older trainees. Also this lineup has YGs faves who were the younger ones. If this is true YG will debut Yoonbin and Masiho or Yoonbin and Jaehyuk (his screentime in the last episodes makes me think so). Basically in this theory YG had an idea from the get go and they only used the silver boys for clout. This is the theory that makes me the saddest tbh. But still it doesn’t explain why yg would care so much about silver boys. Like bringing them back and emphasizing so mucho on how they’re a team. Plus it discards the power Hyunsuk has with one of the most stable fandoms.

B) The theory before the lineup was dropped was that yg Is testing the silver boys for the last time which made sense till the last episode. But SB stans have been very loud and spammed his Instagram, trended a hashtag and are contacting companies. This means they have a strong fandom so this might help.

C) YG will add more members to the lineup I think 9 is more realistic than 11. Based on screentime maybe Hyunsuk + Seunghun.

D) YG will debut all of ot13, doubt this since YG hasn’t have that big of a group and I don’t think YG can handle it. If it was SM yeah but not this. (I like this one tho )

E) YG will debut ot13 but in 2 teams a pop team and hip-hop team. Pop=treasure7 Hip-hop=silver boys +a member (I love this)

F) YG will debut SB but under the black label.

G) YG wont do anything except debuting the og treasure7 . And the sbs will leave the company and split up.

These are all the theories I have.

Tldr: YGTB has a lot of flaws as a survival show being extremely unfair and the situation with the lineup is the most chaotic thing ever. Whatever yg does will make people mad.

The worst part is that it worked as always YG doing the minimal manages to pull us in just to disappoint us. Just that he managed to drag more people this time.

At this point I’m done with the guessing and the rumors, I just really want to know what’s going on and the security that my faves are ok even if they’re in or not in the group. Cause not debuting in the group isn’t the end they can debut with another group or go solo. My point is that it isnt the end for their careers.

[lgcjaehwa]

Jasmine (제스민) is an idol under Legacy Entertainment and a member of Crystallis.

BASICS! Stage name: Jasmine  (제스민) Real name:  Ahn Jae hwa (안재화) Birthday: 20 August, 2000 Zodiac Sign: Dragon Height: 158cm (5′2.2′’) Birthplace: Los Angeles, USA Favorite motto: “Give yourself the best chance.”

FACTS! - nicknames: jas, hwa, princess jasmine - family: parents, one older sister, 2 older brothers, 1 younger sister) - one of her older brothers is V&A’s leader, AJ - born in los angeles and moved to south korea when she’s 10. - her representative color is pastel yellow - jasmine’s role model is BLAZing’s Woohee - she hates tomatoes and coriander - puppies are her favorite animals - attends School Of Performing Arts (SOPA) and graduates in 2019, currently attends Seoul Institute of the Arts (majoring in theater) and in her final year - participates in multiple singing competitions as a child. champion for SOPA’s singing competition and first runner-up for nationals.  - participates in the music show, idol school, but never made it into the final line-up YEAR-END GOALS! - recognized more as a singer - get more gigs!! - crystallis to get best female rookie award

MOST MEMORABLE EVENT! her debut stage as a crystallis member because she secured her position in a permanent group

PREVIOUS APPEARANCE!

2019 - Performed for LGC Family Concert 2k19 - Appeared on ‘Dance Showdown EP 5′ - Vlive appearance ‘A day in the life of...’ - Performed at Legacy’s official cafe - Part of the Xmas choir during Future Dream S1′s mini concert

2020 - Appeared on ‘Eat with Jae S1 EP 2′ - Participated in ‘Future Dreams S2′ - Vlive appearance ‘New Life, New Experiences’ - 6 Months modeling gig with ‘Haribo’ - Participated in ‘Date Lottery S1′ - Participated in ‘Project Origin Musical’ - Appeared on ‘Variety Cage Match EP 1′ - Live Vlive appearance with fellow trainee, Kang Dana - 6 Months modeling gig with ‘Papa John’s Korea’ - Performed for Legacy Festival - Guest Appearance for ‘Cram School S1′ as Lee Sohee - Participated in ‘Date Lottery S2′ - Vlive appearance ‘Fan Video Call’ - Project Origin Fanmeeting Tour - Appeared on ‘Ready, Set, Cook S2 EP 11′ - Performed for LGC Family Conert 2k20 - 6 Months Modeling Gig with ‘Royal Canin’ - Appeared on ‘Lily’s Bakery EP 4′ - Featured in Small Room’s Sweet Sorrow - Vlive Appearance ‘Favorite Fall Recipe’ - Participated in ‘Dream Team Legacy S1′ - 6 Months modeling contract renewal with ‘Royal Canin’ - Performed ‘Adios’ during KBS Gayo Daechukje 2020 - Performed ‘ Dun Dun’ + ‘All I want for Christmas is you’ during SBS Gayo Daejeon 2020 - Performed ‘FavOrite’ during MBC Gayo Daejejeon 2020

2021 - Vlive appearance ‘VLive Q&A’ - Participated in LGC Girls Japan Promotions - Hosted Vlive show ‘Doggy O’Clock’ - 6 Months modeling contract renewal with ‘Royal Canin’ - Participated in ‘Dream Team Legacy S2′ - Participated in LGC Girls Summer Promotions - Performed for LGC Family Concert 2k21 - Participated in ‘Future Dreams S4′

2022 - Participated in Crystallis ‘Fiesta’ Promotions - 1 Month MC for MCountdown - Appeared on the spread of ‘The Star Korea’ Magazine - Supporting role in ‘My Roommate is a Gumiho’ as Gye Seowoo - Appeared on the spread of ‘BnT International’ Magazine

[themacov]

Sources for my ‘’Monsta X unhelpful guide’’ video

Reference video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8TEJa_qJq8

0:22 – 0:26 [NO.MERCY(노머시)] Ep.3 Rankings after the 1st Debut Mission! (1차 데뷔미션 순위는?) [ENG SUB] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jubpy36vk4U ))

0:26 [NO.MERCY(노머시)] Ep.10 The End of the Final Mission! And the final line up is 미션 종료! 최종 데뷔멤버는 [SUB] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZKjrQ4pXmk ))

0:28 [MV] MONSTA X (몬스타엑스) - 무단침입 (Trespass) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLeFYKDtw1I ))

0:30 [MV] 몬스타엑스 (MONSTA X) - 신속히 (RUSH) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSo7gYXp-bA ))

[Special Clip] 몬스타엑스 (MONSTAX) - 히어로 (HERO) Rooftop Ver. (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ9lJ5ctd0s ))

0:31 [MV] 몬스타엑스 (MONSTA X) _ 걸어 (ALL IN) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNxPGbk-gwA ))

0:32 [MV] 몬스타엑스 (MONSTA X) _ Fighter (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jTtU9VNALs ))

[MV] 몬스타엑스(MONSTA X) - 아름다워(Beautiful) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Zedh_5DDM ))

0:33 [MV] 몬스타엑스(MONSTA X) - SHINE FOREVER (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iewWMqeMpqU ))

0:35 [Special Clip] 몬스타엑스(MONSTA X) _ 네게만 집착해(Stuck) MV (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro74Ki2jsNg ))

0:36 [몬채널][S] 몬스타엑스(MONSTA X) -반칙이야 Self-cam ver. (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRBJwbbCtI0 ))

0:37 [몬채널][S] 몬스타엑스 (MONSTA X) - 하얀소녀 (White Love) Special Clip (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA-ccrefICc ))

0:38 [Special Clip] 몬스타엑스 (MONSTA X) – AMEN (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEya6qKUbt8 ))

[Special Clip] MONSTA X(몬스타엑스)_솔직히 말할까(Honestly) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4g9VSimh3Q ))

0:39 [몬채널][S] Perfect Girl Self-cam MV (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrfWMqwRSlY ))

0:43 [NO.MERCY(노머시)] Ep.10 The End of the Final Mission! And the final line up is 미션 종료! 최종 데뷔멤버는 [SUB] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZKjrQ4pXmk ))

0:44 [ENG SUB] 170701 Music Core Fanmeeting - Shownu's fame! (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eURCkWWwfYI ))

0:47 Hit The Stage 몬스타엑스 셔누, 꿈의 무대(feat.주헌) 160928 EP.10 (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1AxtU2o42A ))

0:51 《EMOTIONAL》 MONSTA X (몬스타엑스) – Beautiful (Acoustic+ver) (아름다워) @인기가요 Inkigayo 20170507 (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND194viiWDc ))

1:00 Lipstick Prince Season 1 Episode 8

1:02 [몬채널][B] EP.61 2017 S/S LITMUS (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBnSCCwjC4U&t=133s ))

1:04 170416 여의도팬싸 -- 몬스타엑스 셔누 (하하하하하) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3OQDf0DpRM ))

1:13 [NO.MERCY(노머시)] Ep.10 The End of the Final Mission! And the final line up is 미션 종료! 최종 데뷔멤버는 [SUB] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZKjrQ4pXmk ))

1:14 170507 HYUNGWON 형원 @ NOWON Fansign Event 노원팬싸 (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IrFjVf4Vus ))

1:16 170408 잠실팬싸 몬스타엑스 민혁 (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pr-DiK7sgs ))

1:20 170422 광주팬싸 몬스타엑스 야무지게 원호형 때리고 흉기는 뒤로 보내버리는 형원... ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jdamAbCJv4 ))

1:22 [FANCAM] [161014] MONSTA X - HyungHyuk Moment @ KANGNAM FANSIGN EVENT (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOD4AwuXeU ))

1:26 170429 홍대팬싸 몬스타엑스 형원 음료수 마시다가 대참사 ㅎㅎ (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVM6kka1NcY ))

1:28 Meme do hyungwon (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B47cotfY9v4 ))

1:30 170625 광화문팬싸 몬스타엑스 형원 춤추거나 졸거나 노래부르거나(!?) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyvl8JeAsm0 ))

1:34 monsta x title tracks sped up but every time hyungwon gets a line it slows down (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll3oH7yHKRI ))

1:35 [몬채널][B] EP.45 17 FW Seoul Fashion Week MH (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JTGly2wL3M ))

1:38 [NO.MERCY(노머시)] Ep.10 The End of the Final Mission! And the final line up is 미션 종료! 최종 데뷔멤버는 [SUB] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZKjrQ4pXmk ))

1:39 [몬채널][S] Safari in Monbebe World (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIE0MouBG_o ))

1:46 [몬채널][B] EP.54 '넌 어때(I'll Be There)' 작업일기 (by WH) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU67P-q5DRY ))

1:50 170513 MONSTA X 강남 팬사인회 WONHO FANCAM (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=998vo0fiDCo ))

1:54 Monsta X Season Greeting 2017

2:17 160923 중국인 유학생 페스티벌 몬스타엑스 - 네게만 집착해 (원호 focus) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LmHKvWVRXo ))

170618 MONSTA X 'Beautiful in Seoul' From Zero Wonho＆Hyungwon (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwoWfii3iXQ ))

2:20 Monsta X Season Greeting 2017

2:23 Monsta X(몬스타 엑스) 기현, 민혁, 주헌, 아이엠 "땡땡땡" (원곡 : 슈프림팀) [키스더라디오] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeTT9WFWSpA ))

2:26 [NO.MERCY(노머시)] Ep.10 The End of the Final Mission! And the final line up is 미션 종료! 최종 데뷔멤버는 [SUB] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZKjrQ4pXmk ))

2:27 Trainee MINHYUK X SEOKWON@2nd debut mission(민혁 X 석원 - "너 사용법"@2차데뷔미션) l NO.MERCY 4화 (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFkS-lS7xfY ))

2:31 [몬채널][B] EP.36 AFTER 11월이 담은 순간 (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKnK2SbTMpc&t=634s ))

2:33 Idol Battle Likes - 아이돌 배틀라이크 Ep.1 - MONSTAX [ENG-2016.12.16] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZSAbm_bxzY&t=1359s ))

2:35 [RIGHT NOW(롸잇나우)] Ep.1 Trespasser in MONSTA X' House!-(그들의 숙소에 침입자가 나타났다-)_MONSTA X(몬스타엑스) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMSxteUO9OA&t=905s ))

2:50 [MEET&GREET] MONSTA X - THE CLAN PART 2.5 : THE FINAL CHAPTER : BEAUTIFUL (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dua7957nBOQ&t=444s ))

2:53 [몬채널][B] EP25. KCON LA Practice (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp4MIsBZsuo ))

2:58 [몬채널][B] EP.36 AFTER 11월이 담은 순간 (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKnK2SbTMpc&t=634s ))

3:00 [몬채널][B] EP.66 '몬스타엑스레이2' 7화 (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNwqq2KDm2Y ))

3:02 161120 몬스타엑스 - 민혁@여의도 팬싸 (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnLYW3IrKCs ))

3:05 IDOL 360 WORLD(아이돌360월드)- MONSTA X(몬스타엑스)_Fighter(VR Guide Ver.(VR 가이드 버전)) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33M8eKZwxKg ))

3:06 [NO.MERCY(노머시)] Ep.10 The End of the Final Mission! And the final line up is 미션 종료! 최종 데뷔멤버는 [SUB] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZKjrQ4pXmk ))

3:08 [NO.MERCY(노머시)] Ep.8 4th Debut Mission with Top Artists Begins Now! 정상급 아티스트와 함께하는 4차 데뷔미션! [SUB] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P107nsO8RXo&t=157s ))

3:13 [몬스타엑스] 아! 님들 방석퀴즈(full) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PVMGODNT-M ))

3:18 [HOT!] MONSTA X Hyung Won and I.M being sexy and all on Simply K-Pop (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtLNNbyc9_g ))

3:20 IDOL 360 WORLD(아이돌360월드)- MONSTA X(몬스타엑스)_Fighter(VR Guide Ver.(VR 가이드 버전)) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33M8eKZwxKg ))

3:21 [MEET&GREET] MONSTA X - THE CLAN PART 2.5 : THE FINAL CHAPTER : BEAUTIFUL (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dua7957nBOQ&t=444s ))

3:22 Idol Battle Likes - 아이돌 배틀라이크 Ep.1 - MONSTAX [ENG-2016.12.16] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZSAbm_bxzY&t=1359s ))

3:25 [몬스타엑스] 아! 님들 방석퀴즈(full) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PVMGODNT-M ))

3:30 [DeokspatchX²(덕스패치X²)] Ep.7 Dinner time(맛저타임)_MONSTA X(몬스타엑스) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK7aEdQRzjE ))

3:39 [NO.MERCY(노머시)] Ep.10 The End of the Final Mission! And the final line up is 미션 종료! 최종 데뷔멤버는 [SUB] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZKjrQ4pXmk ))

3:44 [MIXTAPE] 주헌(JOOHEON)_Rhythm (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A1GW4K-nOk ))

3:50 [MIXTAPE] 주헌(JOOHEON) X I.M - 친구해(BeMyFriend) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2M3m4GR2-0 ))

3:59 170625 - 광화문 팬사인회 (Jooheon focus) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfZxmAIhIlg ))

4:01 [몬채널][B] EP.61 2017 S/S LITMUS (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBnSCCwjC4U&t=133s ))

4:05 [SBS]컬투쇼핫클립, 몬스타엑스 주헌 "애교 3종 세트"  (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHDSwHGmC04 ))

4:10 Monsta X Season Greeting 2017

4:13 [NO.MERCY(노머시)] Ep.10 The End of the Final Mission! And the final line up is 미션 종료! 최종 데뷔멤버는 [SUB] (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZKjrQ4pXmk ))

4:15 [몬채널][B] EP30. PPAP (KH & MH ver.) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKmtJSeJZA4 ))

4:19 [ENG SUB] MONSTA X-RAY EP. 4 | SEASON 1 (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZzubsg9uVw ))

4:24 150923 아몬드 먹다가 일낸 기현이ㅋㅋ (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3QA19BSXoE ))

4:27 [몬채널][B] EP6. Have a good dinner! (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKn-uK_uhPA ))

4:30 [MEET&GREET] MONSTA X 1st Album Repackage 'SHINE FOREVER'' 170804 (FULL/ENG SUB) (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waRvZ09Eqog ))

4:33 [ENG SUB] 170701 Music Core Fanmeeting - Shownu's fame! (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eURCkWWwfYI ))

4:34 [ซับไทย] 161209 MONSTA X Fighter Q&A Freeze Game @ Dukgune (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw2G7SW1BFk ))

4:39 Trainee KIHYUN - HYEYA@1st debut mission (메인보컬 기현 - 혜야 @ 1차 데뷔미션) I NO.MERCY 2화 (( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5p49sZ5zPU ))

4:55 Monsta X Season Greeting 2017

[offjumpoladulkittiporn]

this is so cute 🥰💚

[offjumpoladulkittiporn]

cuties <3

[ryansjane]

so far i got to say the trainee was a cute series very light hearted between off and gun and it was so worth waiting for and watching it. however the story between piploy, sea and kapook just doesnt seem right at all. i would love to hear more of your opinion on it. because i felt like in the end of the day they should all go their separate ways and focus on self love instead

I have SO MANY thoughts about the trainee lol, I almost wanna revive my youtube channel & pump out a video 😆 honestly the trainee had SO MUCH potential. I came into this show with no expectation apart from jane being hot af & offgun having flawless chemistry as always, and for most of it it actually blew me away by having a way deeper meaning than anticipated. the exploration of finding yourself & your career at the edge of entering the workplace was honestly really relatable and probably my favorite aspect of the show. I once said the trainee had some of the best writing I had seen from a gmmtv show... but sadly it didn't stick the landing for me. I feel like from ep 9 or 10 the writing really degraded slowly, although there were still very strong scenes in those eps. I HATED the 5 years timelapse in the finale, I've criticized the trope of sending a character abroad for years before but here I particularly hated it bc it honestly kinda destroyed jane's character imo? he was the greenest green flag ever, absolutely obsessed with ryan... but he's gonna ghost ryan & then come back and tell him he's leaving the day after & still kiss him?? and then not come back for FIVE YEARS and not even contact ryan during that time?? that's insane. jane could've easily went for a master degree in thailand & this whole trope was so bad I hated it, I feel like they just went for the easy way out. however, yes, the whole taebahmeejudy storyline was deffo the biggest flop of this show. I think it was obvious that the audience was gonna root for judy & bahmee more bc same sex couples are almost always more popular in the thai fandom, and also the show built up judy & bahmee's chemistry so much. even once bahmee & tae broke up, I personally thought bahmee should've spent at least six months single to learn to be by herself before jumping onto judy, but the storyline that just bc judy was slightly overbearing 3 times, bahmee decided to ditch her & go back to tae... was insane. also I think tae was a really weak character who benefited from being played by sea who's super beloved, but lowkey the only great tae scene is when he drunkenly scolds jane in the last scene of the show (and that's bc it's OOC & frankly should've been a pah moment.) but the whole situation felt unfair for everyone & I hate that judy's feelings were never explored after she cried once & then she was just shown to be okay like??? I don't think the writers accomplished what they set out to do at all. and also they focused SO MUCH on that love triangle that it robbed janeryan from being much more developed, be it the drama with nine or seeing ryan back with his family & tao-hu in the later eps... at the final ep fanmeet, pompam asked piploy what she would do if she were in bamhee's shoes, and piploy hesitated a lot but mentioned the idea of "what's right" before choosing tae still. so maybe it's a cultural difference bc tbh the whole crowd was cheering when tae proposed to bahmee during the fanmeet while I (a hater) was rolling my eyes lmao. so yeah overall I loved janeryan & pie & pah and there were so many amazing scenes, but... I SO wish I could turn back time, barge into the writers room and hijack the writing process for this show to make it stronger towards the end lol. it's definitely offgun's weakest show so far apart from puppy honey, but I still enjoyed it and, yes, sobbed like a little bitch when it ended 💚

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[offjumpoladulkittiporn]

I can't with them 😫🫶

[offjumpoladulkittiporn]

I screamed 🤭💚

[offjumpoladulkittiporn]

🥰🥰🥰

[ryansjane]

sooooo... the actual craziest thing just happened... I haven't been on ig in months so I literally DIDN'T KNOW there would be a final ep fanmeet for the trainee but I had a gut feeling... today I wake up at 10 & since the final ep is in 2 weeks I'm like "let me check"... lo and behold... THE TICKETS ARE ON SALE RIGHT AT THAT MOMENT. I managed to snatch one of the last five tickets 😭 I'm not getting a group pictures sadly but hey, I almost missed out on something I've waited for fucking years!!!

[ryansjane]

I am shocked and saddened that Cooking Crush aren't getting a final episode fanmeet, for all offgun do they really do get done so dirty could it be cause it is a wetv exclusive so gmmtv aren't allowed or does that not matter and they are just doing offgun wrong

nah cause me too, for all the times gmmtv has done offgun wrong, I didn't think they would do this shit, especially since it's a GREAT opportunity to make a lot of money with very minimal effort. I have no idea why it's not happening bc even though cooking crush sorta flopped, babii's WOULD without a doubt pull through for offgun. it has nothing to do with WETV either bc they just have the exclusive distribution contract in terms of streaming site, however I assume gmmtv owns the IP & can do everything else since they have sold merch & stuff. like the only thing that MIGHT be the problem is that there is the gmmtv happy together fanmeet in japan happening around this time but bruh it's 6 WHOLE DAYS LATER STILL!!! or maybe off or gun aren't available??? seems unlikely though. for me nothing makes sense & I'm so disappointed bc my ultimate dream in life is to go to an offgun fanmeet while I live in thailand & they're still at gmmtv and this was the perfect fucking opportunity & I'm pissed... I do really hope gmmtv does a final ep fanmeet for the trainee but now I have even less hope... 😭😭😭

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[ryansjane]

You think we get something special from The Trainee?

I have zero idea... during the final ep fanmeet they teased the idea of a season 2 but I don't think the show was popular enough for us to ever get a season 2 lol. we shall wait & see I guess!

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[ryansjane]

fans and antis alike have doomposted about offgun so much, since forever, that it's hard to take seriously. gmmtv has always been a poorly run company, and if gun was gonna ditch the ship or the company he would've done it ages ago. both o and g have a longtime attachment to gmmtv, for better or worse. it's also probably the easiest place for them to stay consistently employed. of course, one day they'll start winding down the ship, but we still have the trainee AND now a babii concert in april!!! so i rly don't see the point in doomposting about their partnership at least for this year, lmao.

yeah I mean I hope people didn't see my reply to this ask as me doomposting tho lol, bc even tho I do have a platform with followers I'm also literally just an offgun fan & also get doubts & fears like everyone else 😅 the babii concert has me GAGGED, that's what I've been waiting all along I'm so fucking happy!!! however I never said I believed offgun were gonna break up this year, but I was more so thinking about the years forward as I said I want them to at least reach their 10th anniversary bc it'd be BEYOND iconic in an industry where bl ships drop like flies every day. so yeah, not doomposting, just voicing my worries & responding to an ask that was even more worried than I was. I understand not wanting to read negative shit about a ship you love, but this is literally the only ask on this topic I've ever received & answered. don't worry my regular content will never become about offgun separating... until they separate lmao. but yeah the concert is giving me some hope, it compensates the lack of cooking crush final ep fanmeet a liiiiittle bit lol

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