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#the stages of grief theory
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Ride the Cyclone as a musical has a lot of meaning to it, there's tons of messages and in a whole it's really tragic. Plenty of theories have gone around about what the characters represent themselves, and one that I really support is the stages of grief one. Because of that, I have taken it as my liberty to decipher and write about which characters symbolize which stage and why.
Firstly, Ocean O'connell Rosenberg. When I was first drafting about this, I had her as bargaining. She's constantly flipping through the reasons she should be the one to come back to life. Then I was rereading what I wrote, and I realized denial is a much better fit for her. In her song, and in Fall Fair Suite, she's mentioning how she did so much in life, went to school, got good grades, did everything she could to be the best, only to die before she could make anything of it. "Now I'll never graduate!" In Fall Fair Suite and her breakdown to Constance about how her death has really effected her shows proof in that statement. Throughout the musical, she's extremely desperate about getting the unanimous vote, going as far as to get mad at Mischa and Noel for saying they would vote for each other, because that would cause their two votes to cancel out. In What the World Needs, she's giving examples on why she should be the one to be brought back. She believes she's the only one that can keep the world spinning out of all of them. She doesn't want to process the fact that all she did in life was for nothing, she wants her existence to mean something. "You know I envy you. No, I do. I mean, I got straight A's since grade one. I was working towards something, I was building a life, and you. You were satisfied doing nothing. Baking cupcakes, eating them." - "I thought my life had meaning. Turns out it didn't! OH WELL! JOKES ON ME! My death has really effected me!" -Ocean O'connell Rosenberg.
Going in song order, we have Noel Gruber. Introduced as the most romantic boy in town. That alone, adds to the reason of why I've chosen him for depression. Being the only out queer in a dead end town, whilst also being the most romantic boy there, is clearly troubling for him. Fantasies of romantic dates and dinners and nights yet no one to initiate them with. In his boring life, working a boring job, with no one to love him or for him to love back, he was forced to dream up a different reality. Life so disastrous, even the role he played in his imagination was catastrophic. A hooker in post-war France, who burns herself with cigarettes just to prove to herself she's still alive. Her life void of romance, but replaced with excitement and lust. Horrifically doomed to die of Typhoid flu in an alleyway, she says, "I choose to burn out, rather than fade away." Mirroring Noel, in a way that all he wants is not just meaning, but to experience passion and lust and excitement. Something he never got to do in his depressing, boring life in his depressing, boring town. "You make me weep just looking at you. So, so tragic." "Oh, that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me!" -Mischa Bachinski and Noel Gruber, that order.
On a more obvious note, Mischa Bachinski. From the second we're introduced to him, he's described as angry. Emotional, angry, and passionate. Clearly, I assigned him as the anger stage of grief. In both of his songs (This Song is Awesome/Talia), rage is a fairly common theme. Not only in dialogue, but in lyrics and symbolism through instrumental and tune. In This Song is Awesome, the entire song is autotuned, something that Mischa had mentioned to signify fury and emotion. At the end of the song, before it transitions into Talia, he says "My rage has subsided. A moment, I am vulnerable now." Throughout the entire song, he was expressing raw sentiment for the things he feels strongly about (ex: the lyric "feeling homesick for my homies in Ukraine"). Now, the most important evidence for his stage of grief, Natalia Muruska Bolinska. His fiancé, a women from Ukraine he met online who he never got to meet in person. In his song Talia, he's putting his heart and soul on his sleeve, showing everything he's got, all his feelings for his darling Talia. The song, mostly in a folk style, is abruptly interrupted by a verse entirely sung in autotune. The lyrics "I wanna get with you baby," play two times throughout that part. As we've learned previously, autotune to Mischa is expressing anger or strong emotions. What we can decipher from this, is that the autotune and the lyrics point to how mad he is that he never got to formally meet/marry his beloved.
For our fourth in line, we have Ricky Potts. I know a lot of people say that acceptance should go to Constance, and I agree slightly, but I feel as though it fits Ricky more. Right off the bat, we have the evidence of him conceding. Right after Space Age Bachelor Man, he concedes. He won't get to be voted for, but his vote will still count. The way I see this, whether it's meant to be taken this way or not, is that Ricky has completely come to terms with his death. He says, "There's only one commandment in the Bachelor Man Bible... don't be a dick," and that choosing himself would be the ultimate dick move. After Mischa calls him cool in the afterlife, he exclaims that he was always this way, but no one ever listened to him when he was alive. Mute, he couldn't express himself. He couldn't talk to go on about his interests in the way other people his age could. He was forced into a silent life. Now in death, he can talk. He can show the others his actual personality. He's a nerd, he fantasizes about sexy cat ladies from a planet named Zolar, probably a furry, and he's fine. I'd say he's okay with being dead, being able to actually interact without restraints. Getting chosen to come back alive would mean having to live with those things holding him back. This is why he's acceptance.
Jane Doe, or Penny Lamb. Deciding what she symbolizes was difficult. In a way, she's basically all of them, but for the sake of this, she'll be bargaining. Jane Doe, only known as Jane Doe due to her identity never being found out after death. Being decapitated, and having to spend her entire afterlife not knowing who she is. Throughout the musical, and her songs, she's heard begging, pleading for someone to tell her who she is. One lyric, "Oh Saint Peter, let me in, you must know where I've been. Won't you tell me at last who I am," is sang by her in The Ballad of Jane Doe, before she repeats the line "Who I Am" 4 times. Her song, and everything that follows, is demonstrating how the only thing she desires in death is to know who she was in life. Bargaining with higher ups, pleading for at least the tiniest bit of information. Finally, after her solo, she has a beautiful scene with Ricky where he gives her an identity to live with. Savannah, with the greenest eyes.
Lastly, the most challenging to assign, Constance Blackwood. Probably the most controversial opinion out of all of these, I think grief itself fits her. Of course, most people would say acceptance fits her better. Finally coming to terms with the fact that her life was perfect the way it was and she wouldn't have it any other way. Unfortunately for that analogy, I was able to twist it to fit the title of grief. Before Constance tragically died, she was known as the nicest girl in town. Getting awards left and right for it, always being someone that people adore for her "niceness". Moments before getting on the Cyclone, just to rebel for once, she loses her virginity in a porta potty to a random guy with cool tattoos. In her song and her dialogue, she talks about how much she despised her small shitty town. She was peeved at the mere fact that she was the only one born and raised in Uranium to think it was fine and dandy to live there. Then she explained how now that she's dead, now that she can see what she lost, she feels so, so bad for how she treated her life. Her family, her town, everything. She's grieving over not being able to accept that as she was alive.
If anyone thinks that I made a wrong choice, please tell me, I'd like the hear different opinions on this! I actually spent like a month on this cause I didn't wanna mess anything up
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lexa-ocean · 5 months
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I have just watched The Amazing Digital Circus ep 2. Got a theory re: Jax
Ok so ppl have been pointing out that Jax seems more 'violent' this episode. However, I want everyone to consider this v brief expression he pulled when hearing about Kaufmo's funeral
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I think it's clear he did care about Kaufmo, even if he didn't show it.
My thoughts? He's going throught the 5 stages of grief rn.
Ep 1 was denial, him acting like it was all fine and ignoring the situation
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This ep was anger. Him wishing for violence on everyone, dissapointed there was no bloodshed, willing to let the Fudge kill the whole kingdom... yeah, man was pissed tf out
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If we're going by that logic, next eps will be bargaining, depression and acceptance. Considering Gooseworx on twitter issued warnings for the whole series, which included "references to suicide"... yeah.
That was all basically bye-
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add1ctedt0you · 9 months
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Sucker for pain
That's for all the writers who look at jiang cheng and decide to put him through other unimaginable woes. <3 As if his life wasn't rough enough lol.
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notedchampagne · 2 years
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harrow the ninth, gideon pov & seven stages of grief feat. harrowhark nonagesimus
#reposting the harrow page because i finally got the energy to scan it properly#after the main tags ill go over all the small details im excited about bc i want people to have the chance to pick them out themselves so:#the locked tomb#harrow the ninth#gideon nav#harrowhark nonagesimus#harrow the ninth spoilers#griddlehark#dudele#john gaius#okay so details:#the halo around harrow (gideon)s head is the iris of an eye#same with alectos eye and 'first flower of my house'#the shadow of one of the iron railings and the zweihander make IX#i referenced that freak bug description from the actual book lmfao i hid the page number in there#dont forget the 'river is a revenant' theory w the teeth as is described in ntn so i added that in there too#i balanced green on both sides of harrow(gideon) with the bug AND the stray leaves from the planet harrow killed-#- the bright green stands out and is supposed to feel unnatural against the orange#for the harrow piece: obviously i replaced like all stages of grief with denial#but i put some random words in there too in the bg/in different colors#to try and represent her forced changing of the 'stages' so to say#behind harrows head in the top right you can see the first two letters of 'acceptance'#if you look closely at alectos hand her fingers are fused together and are smaller proportioned. that is on purpose. ily barbie#i do NOT have a distinct gold marker so imagine all the orange is gold. now look at that last golden denial eye. hi gideon#i also hid stairs in there. haha <=== homestuck
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FUCK 2024
THIS YEAR IS S H I T
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pa-pa-plasma · 29 days
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"Brooklynn not actually being dead is cheap" actually I think it's really funny that they spent 5 seasons convincing us that a character dying off-screen (because of censors) means they're actually fully dead so they could really make us sweat during CT
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notasecrettelepath · 3 days
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Update!
In this chapter, Eddie starts to Lose It™ (not that he would admit it (it also for sure has nothing to do with buck having a new boyfriend btw)), Buck gets a new couch, and the word "Fine" is repeated 34 times.
Chapters: 5/20 Fandom: 9-1-1 (TV) Relationships: Evan "Buck" Buckley/Eddie Diaz (9-1-1 TV) Rating: M | Words: 36k (slow burn babey)
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Once, at Buck's request, Eddie had watched a documentary about a tribe deep in the Amazon rainforest. When the boys of the tribe reached twelve years old, they could go through a rite of passage to become men. For the rite, they had to put their hands inside gloves filled with Bullet Ants, one of the most painful insect bites on the entire planet. They kept their hands in the gloves as they danced and the ants stung. And Eddie was horrified. As a father, as a son, as a man himself. But he kept wondering about it. Wondering what it’d feel like for him — to earn his manhood through one single ritual. Not having to slowly learn and muddle his way through it. Not having to be repeatedly punched in the face by his failures at it. Thrown into the Texas dirt, dragged through the Afghanistan desert, crushed by 40 feet of Californian earth. The thought made him at ease. Attaining manhood by trading in a few days of semi-unbearable pain. Eddie had had quite a few of those already. But they didn’t make him feel more like a man. He just kept fucking failing.
Read Chapter 5 on AO3.
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The absolute funniest way they could do the Volume 9 exposition would be if Yang walked up to Ozpin and said "Hey Oz, what's your favorite fairy tale?".
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absolutely reading too far into it but what if the circus gang are going through different stages of grief? Pomni is obviously in denial at first assuming this is a dream, later falling into insanity Ragatha is trying to be hopeful and kind in a hopeless situation probably in bargaining or denial depending on how much she's aware of the situation We really haven't seen Gangle in her comedy mask but with her drama mask she's prone to bouts of despair, kind of in a depressive funk Zooble feels just frustrated and done with everything, no fucks to give but seemingly easily irritated and angry Jax is difficult to classify for me since we don't entirely know what is going on in his head, Jax could be depressed and fucking with everyone else as a way to cope with it all, or he could be angry with the situation and everyone else or completely accepting of what's happening and he does this just cuz similarly i can't really figure out Kinger, he's not exactly sane but from what we've seen he's not really in acceptance or angry with the situation, hope we see more of his backstory later on really
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cr1ms0nesp3ra-ac3 · 5 months
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Wait.... Idk if anyone may or may not notice this but.
I feel like the ST albums are the representation of five stages of grief.. although some songs had those styles, but this I had to ramble em up:
One - Denial
Two - Anger
Sundowning - Bargaining or Depression, it seems look like it.
TPWBYT - Depression(or Bargaining.. idk tho)
TMBTE - Looks like Anger but also Acceptance, but again, idk..
Seems to me that some of the songs had the slow sad theme, yet it had the tone of anger, denial, depression at the same time as its tone of sound.. That's how I think of Euclid.
What I believe that this song, is a song of Acceptance.
Like um- hear this.
At the end of the music, the TNDNBTG tone starts with a calm yet bittersweet sound makes it a sad bittersweet tone. Imagine this text I made:
"i did it, I managed to complete the obstacles.. even though I know the suffer I had is still here, I must keep going and keep living. For everyone. "
Correct me if I feel wrong of my first and ever analysis.
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iwatcheditbegin · 7 months
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5 stages of grief and variants with corresponding colors is the new lover house theory
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veinsglisten · 6 months
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The folklore love triangle
as the ultimate folklore girl, I refuse to believe the folklore love triangle is indeed taylor, joe and potential “augustine”, whoever that is…
I’m in denial
I mean taylor has changed how we view her discography over the past few days
but this just subverts my worldview and hits my core
my mind is fucked, my heart is broken
watching some videos of the long pond session gives you so much context now
like how taylor explained betty and james would end up together despite the cheating but “james really put her through it” and the side eye from aaron dessner says it all, as if he knew what she was going through and was empathizing with her
she genuinely believed they could sustain the relationship at that time but now betty is in the denial playlist…
and in another video she emphasized that james was a fool
and a line from it’s time to go: “or that moment again, he’s insisting that friends look at each other like that”
that speaks volume as to what possibly happened…
and hoax
if you don’t count the lakes, hoax is the closing track
and it is just the saddest
“my best laid plan, your sleight of hand”
“sleight of hand”
“you knew it still hurts underneath my scars
from when they pulled me apart
but what you did was just as dark
darling, this was just as hard”
I can’t…
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miirshroom · 9 months
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Marika's Grief and the Shattering
Age of Fracture = Denial
Blessing of Despair = Anger
Age of Order = Bargaining
Age of the Duskborn = Depression
Age of Stars = Acceptance
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monkeymeghan · 6 months
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So I’m sitting in the recliner, super comfy and settled in, and watching the yankee game. Then all of a sudden out of nowhere the memory hit me of hearing my brother walking up the front steps behind me (the chair is near the door) after 11pm to tell me about mom. Knowing what those footsteps meant. I physically felt my heart drop. I opened the door, looked in his eyes, and fell into his arms sobbing. We were in the doorway and it was freezing outside and he eventually asked if he could come in. He made a comment that “ye golden girls” was on the tv, which it was. Then we sat at the kitchen table and talked and cried. I remember it all so clearly, it’s strange. I was just totally blindsided by this memory, I felt it viscerally in my gut, like it was happening again.
Shoutout to @shortstorylonger for recently introducing me to the ball and box theory of grief. I read up on it and it made a ton of sense. Something in my head clicked with this. Much better than Kübler-Ross’ DABDA, which is factual, but not necessarily helpful. It made me see how this intense pain won’t be so constant forever, even though it feels like it will be.
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shivasdarknight · 8 months
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newish band ive been looping for a bit now mustve updated their spotify banner recently, which I didn't initially notice because it's so similar to the old one but
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lead singer's got a keffiyeh in the new one, fuck yeah
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vicneedstherapy · 10 months
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you guys.....HEAR ME OUT-
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