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fuckyeahchinesefashion · 2 months ago
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无挂碍 - 音速行星 Unencumbered - Sonic Planet
制作人: 泰然 Producer: Tai Ran
三娃嘞 Sanwa le
你杳无音信 I've never heard from you
一走就十载 You've been gone for ten years
你喜欢的姑娘 The girl you like
嫁了个好人 Married a good man
去年生了双胞胎 She gave birth to twins last year
你养的小黑狗 The little black puppy you raised
变成了老黑狗 Turned into an old black dog
就快要爬不起来 She's about to die
逢人都有常问 People always ask
你何时归来 When are you coming back
三娃嘞 Sanwa Le
你杳无音信 I've never heard from you
一走就二十载 You've been gone for 20 years
你种的树苗苗 The saplings you planted
长成了大树 Have grown into big trees
年年结出果子来 Every year they bear fruits
对面的山坡坡 On the other side of the mountain
油菜花漫山遍野 Rapeseed blossoms are everywhere
金灿灿的开 Blooming with gold
你二哥他在问 Your second brother is asking
你何时归来 When will you come back?
三娃嘞 Sanwa le
你杳无音信 I haven't heard a word from you
一走就三十载 You've been gone for 30 years
你二哥两爷子战死沙场 Your second brother and your dad died in battle
就地掩埋没有回来 They were buried on the spot and never came back
娘亲她泪洗面眼浑浊 Mom's eyes are clouded with tears
颤颤巍巍双鬓都斑白 She walks shakily and her hair is gray
她常年独坐村头 She sits alone in the village entrance all year round
你何时归来 When will you come back?
三娃嘞 Sanwa Le
你杳无音信 I haven't heard a word from you
转眼就四十载 It's been 40 years
娘走那天残阳似火 The sun was burning on the day mom passed away
天边有雁群展翅来 Wild geese spreading their wings in the sky
她说都回来接她了 She said they all came back for her
唯独其中寻你不在 Only you're not here
心有遗憾 She felt sorry for you
你何时归来 When will you come back?
三娃嘞 Sanwa Le
你杳无音信 I haven't heard a word from you
一走就五十载 You've been gone for 50 years
我弓腰驼背坡坡坎坎 I've been hunching over and walking uphill
力不从心走不快 I can't walk as fast as I'd like
想起带你下河抓鱼 I think of taking you to the river to catch fish
草鞋冲走笑出声来 We were laughing as our straw sandals washed away
我心头默默在念 I've been thinking of you
你何时归来 When will you come back?
何时归来 When will you come back?
何时归来 When will you come back?
何时归来 When will you come back?
何时归来 When will you come back?
何时归来 When will you come back?
何时归来 When will you come back?
何时归来 When will you come back?
何时归来 When will you come back?
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aoioozora · 3 months ago
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Songs that remind me of Hesh and Logan
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I cannot stop thinking of the Walker brothers. Oftentimes when I hear a couple songs on my playlist, I think, "sounds like them," and this little post is a compilation of those songs and my thoughts on them. Eight songs in total.
I got so sad making this hhhhhh
TW: mentions of suicide
Abyss - YUNGBLUD
Abyss always has me imagining the Walker brothers in their own abyss. While Logan is in a literal abyss of torture after his capture, I'm sure Hesh is in an abyss of despair of his own after having lost both his father and his brother to Rorke.
I think the lyrics of this song can be seen and imagined from both of their perspectives.
"Save my life Could someone please, save my life? Could someone please, save my life? 'Cause I've gone cold And I'm stuck in the abyss all on my own"
Sleepyhead - Jutes
Sleepyhead feels more of a Hesh track to me. This feels like these would be close to what Hesh feels and thinks post-Logan capture. Lonely. He'd rather sleep and have Logan in his dreams than wake up to a reality where he isn't around.
"I'd die in my sleep To live in your arms And I'd stay trapped in this dream Don't ring the alarm
Where do I fit? I don't belong If I wake up, will you be gone? There's nowhere to hide I'm lost and I'm scared If I open my eyes, will you be there?"
Hell's Comin' with Me - Poor Man's Poison
Another Hesh track. This screams revenge. You know when he gets a chance to get his hands on Rorke, he's bringing Hell with him to give the antagonist hell.
"He wiped the blood from his face as he slowly came to his knees He said, "I'll be back when you least expect it And hell's coming with me" Hell's coming with me"
I read someone's hc that Hesh would be irritable and prone to anger issues post-Logan capture and I can see that happening. I can imagine him grappling with the loss while simultaneously brooding and being vengeful, possibly thinking of how to get back at Rorke.
We know him to be the sweet and caring big brother, but fuck around too much and you'll find out. He has the potential to turn into a monster himself (on that note, someone did draw parallels with Hesh and Rorke).
Esperándote - Alvaro Soler
This Spanish song makes so much sense to both Logan and Hesh. If you can understand it or look up the English lyrics, you'll see that it's so their song :(
Both of them are lonely, missing each other, and just feeling plain lost without each other. We know they're so close they're practically attached at the hip.
"Soy una isla en el mar Tan solo y tan perdido No tengo punto en el mapa
Soy una isla en el mar Ven a buscarme así no Ya no estaré perdido, no"
[Translation:
I'm an island on the sea So alone and so lost I don't have a spot on the map
I'm an island on the sea Come and look for me so that I won't be lost anymore, no"]
Talking to the Moon - Bruno Mars
What if the boys got so loopy from the torture/depression that they start talking to the moon, imagining, hallucinating that they're talking to their sibling? Logan looking up at the moon from the pit, Hesh looking up at the moon from wherever he is. At least they're looking at the same thing.
Last Resort - Papa Roach
Do you think Hesh got suicidal after losing both Elias and Logan? I feel like this would be his song during that period of time.
"'Cause I'm losing my sight Losing my mind Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine"
Safe and Sound - Taylor Swift, The Civil Wars
Listening to this, I can't help but imagine a young, young Hesh comforting his little brother. What if, when the boys were young, their mother sang this song to comfort them, and Hesh was doing just that to Logan in the her absence?
What if, as Logan's in the pit, he's singing this song to himself?
"Just close your eyes, the sun is going down You'll be alright, no one can hurt you now Come morning light, you and I'll be safe and sound
Don't you dare look out your window, darling, everything's on fire The war outside our door keeps raging on Hold onto this lullaby even when the music's gone, gone"
And then even this song is tortured out of his memories?
Safe and Sound - Capital Cities
This post has been depressing so time to end on a good note!
In happier times, this would be their song. Full of support and encouragement for each other, because that's what family is for :)
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barrenclan · 4 months ago
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went absolutely nuts one night at 4 an and stsrted absolutely screaming about how you could have been anyone by roar is rainhaze coded before i just passed out before i could finish writing this
Sell off the licensing rights to your mind
(Very easy to pin this line on Rainhaze, he gave his mind to Defiance whole-heartedly, before he himself had even realized.)
You'll sit through some ads before you can see the light
(Can be interpreted as his heel-digging to embrace the Defiance beliefs, not only the resistance he presented but the gradual process and conditioning he went through. Depending on the perspective this line it can be interpreted as him finally understanding the gift of slaughter, or in a metaphorical sense the light at the end of the tunnel, repesenting the death of the old Rainhaze and the birth of a Defiance broken tom.)
Life doesn't mean a thing until you've almost none
(Can align with the beliefs of Defiance directly, so many animals take their lives for granted, submitting to the roles relegated to them and labeled solely as hunters or prey. Only until you understand you can be so much more and see the beauty in killing can you then understand you have power.)
You could have been anyone
(Very fitting lyric, if only he hadn't gone this path, perhaps a mate would have lied away from him, maybe even kits. A loving uncle who helped support his nieces and nephews through their struggle to unserstand their identities. A brother who could provide care to his deeply scarred sibling. A cat who above all else loved his family, instead of the grotesque, twisted love his mind was warped into believing.)
You can find Jesus in every thrift store
(In every single Defiance member lay a fragment of Deepdark.)
And you can catch hell, condemned by the Lord's billboards
(And when he wills it, he can tower above you as the almighty jury he is and damn you.)
Wildfires opalize the skies
While they try thinking of ways to monetize
Ways to monetize
Life doesn't mean a thing until you've almost none
You could have been anyone
I love it when people do all the analyzing work for me!
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Well, I wouldn't blame you for just the name. I like it with her, though! I don't think I've ever gotten a song suggestion for Rosey.
And I've seen the way the seasons change when I just give it time But I feel out of my mind all the time In the night I'm wild eyed, and you got me now
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What a sweet and romantic song for such a pair of weirdos! Deepdark is always associated with "paleness", though, and I think Prowl being sappy is pretty funny.
Good morning, how's the weather dear? My feelings are so clear I just wanna be with you Doing what you do, always Show me how to live <- big darkprowl energy
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"Death Thrice Drawn" has the word 'pining', automatic Pinepaw song. Haha, but I also like it as a song for both Pinepaw and Cormorantpaw, musing on their relationship.
Hotshot, have you got a clue how long I've been pining for you? Spent so many sleepless nights in unbaptized decline
The awful truth has eluded you for too long Uh-oh, everything you know is all wrong
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Oh, more vocaloid! Songs about barren, abandoned wastelands always fit PATFW.
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I can imagine this song being sung by a young Pinepaw.
I'm missing a house That I've never called home I'm missing a time that I've never known I remember a tree, had a whole leaf of my own But now we're reaching spring Was it just a dream? I don't know
The children hum a hymn And I'd like to run away But to leave would be a sin
A distant memory that itches my brain Now it remains a dream
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I am always here for more Kate Bush! This song is really beautiful, and I'd definitely apply it to Asphodelpaw, though I think Mallowstar is a bit too old for the relevance. Perhaps more young cats throughout BarrenClan's history?
But he didn't have the money for a guitar (What could he do?) (Should have been a politician) But he never had a proper education (What could he do?) (Should have been a father) But he never even made it to his twenties What a waste Army dreamers
Give the kid the pick of pips And give him all your stripes and ribbons Now he's sitting in his hole He might as well have buttons and bows
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My mom is a big fan of Eurythmics, thanks for suggesting it. I can imagine Slugpelt walking through the warm spring rain of BarrenClan, thinking about her past with Cashew.
Here comes the rain again Falling on my head like a memory Falling on my head like a new emotion I want to walk in the open wind I want to talk like lovers do
Want to dive into your ocean Is it raining with you?
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I think I've been suggested this song before, yes! I agree, though perhaps this would fit Saltburn's Clan even better. PATFW is not set in a desert after all.
When the last light warms the rocks And the rattlesnakes unfold Mountain cats will come to drag away your bones
She twines her spines up slowly Towards the boiling sun And when I touched her skin My fingers ran with blood
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I don't believe it has! I haven't even heard this Mitski song before.
I better ace that interview I better ace that interview I should tell them that I'm not afraid to die
I wanna see the whole world I wanna see the whole world I don't know how I'm gonna pay rent I wanna see the whole world
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charlidos · 8 months ago
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I'm having a serious bout of nostalgia these past weeks. I started reading from my pile of fanfiction which I've printed over the years. And ended up reading the only Lord of the Rings story I have saved for posterity, namely Calico's brilliant (but sadly unfinished) Viggo/Orlando fic Blood Oranges. And wow, it's really quite an intoxicating read.
It was never a big fandom for me back then, but I remember reading a little, and I remember finding that whole cast quite wonderful.
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All of a sudden, I felt a strong need to look back at the Viggorli pairing of yore. Turned out to be a bit of a rabbit hole for me.
I realised I find it very fascinating to have this soon 25 years perspecitve on them, since fandom is usually quite topical. Particularly RPF, since it's quite dependent on that darn thing we call reality.
Looking back at a pairing like Viggo and Orlando is wrought with wistfulness, with all the could-have-beens and never-happeneds. In the now of a pairing, you can fantasise of a future, but with the reality of a past, it's quite different.
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I've always been intrigued by the relationship that Viggo and Orlando had during those 18 months of filming LotR. Sharing a make up trailer, getting lost in the woods together, and just generally spending a lot of time together. And waxing lyrically about each other. More than ten years later, O said in an interview that V is his biggest influence, that the way V took care of him on the LotR is something that mattered a lot to him. And that V in general is a legend, a beautiful soul etc. It's quite touching.
But it's also a quite melancholic and wistful statement since O also implies it's not that easy to keep in touch with V because "he's an artist, an ACTUAL artist".
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A few years later, O very randomly appeared on a rather odd Italian show where people are reconciled with each other, live on tv. O was there when two estranged sisters were reconciled. O says he has a similiar situation with a "good friend", someone with a similiar age difference as the sisters, someone who used to take care of him. It's not at all clear, but it seems this "brother" gave him a ring with the inscription "To Wherever it May Lead". A line from Legolas to Aragorn which was cut.
(It's a little difficult to hear, but O says that the line from LotR was engraved in the ring when it was given to him, and that he always has it, as an encouragment. I've only found this clip on a Chinese site, hence the subtitles.)
So, it seems to be implied that V gave this ring to O. That O maybe also lost touch with V. And that maybe they've reconciled? It's unclear, but I find it terribly intriguing.
Of course, I know nothing about what's actually going, and it's all fantasy, but it's nonetheless quite a fascinating perspective to look back like this over the years. In my brain - warped by years in fandom - it turns into this EPIC. Either an epic romance, with its ups and downs, loss and great love. Or an epic tragedy, full of unfulfilled desires, bad choices and opportunities lost. There's still some fanfiction written these days (not much, but I'm in awe that there's any at all!). The lovely recent work of chaosmanor really sold me on very wistful, but also quite hopeful, reconcilation fic.
O and V are getting old, but they are still two quite handsome fellows. And I hope there will be a proper, public LotR-cast reunion in time for the 25 yrs mark. They had a few covid-oriented reunions on zoom for the 20 yr celebration, but I hope it'll be live one day.
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I would like to see the fellowship of tattoed nine together again, as long as they're all still alive.
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crushedsweets · 1 year ago
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i was listening to twin size mattress by the front bottoms and was like. hmm this is the most toby song ever
SO i was wondering do u have any songs that remind you of specific creeps? could be from lyrics or just general vibes yk yk
- 🌙 anon (im new here hi)
HII welcome. ok ok. so i listen to music in a very boring way and never analyze lyrics/artists/albums/etc. but for you i will try to change.
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also these lryics with toby oh wow.. wow. ok. wowwww. wow. ok. wow. STUFF UNDER THE CUT BUT KNOW IM DEEPLY WARPING THE ACTUAL MEANING BEHIND A LOT OF THESE SONGS LOL. i religiously listen to love songs so its hard
toby and honey by coastal club. (my fave song rn..)
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whether its from his perspective or not.. it doesnt even have to be romantic either. just his friendships with everyone around him, both from people like tim and brian seeing this SEVERELY TROUBLED kid. . . 'wide eyed..dying to get outside' feels very :((( yk. he was a kid trapped in a fucking horrifying situation all his life. or him looking at his friendship with nina. "youve got a way with me... alive and so full of life, i'm mesmerized by your love" etc. maybe jack or clockwork with the "i started laughing at the words you spoke, i kinda like you and your stupid jokes"... AGAIN I KNOW ITS A LOVE SONG but i see it applying in so many different forms of love. and i love love. also a ton of like, car and driving references which is um. lyra reference sorry
nina x clockwork and "a big brown dog named bagel" by nep
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ok this doesnt apply so much to my au(nobody is canon in mine but yk)... buttttttt... yeah. ugh. this is so nina @ nat. sorry guys ive been changed. one ask always diverts my attention at the speed of light. "I like the way she bites, the way she talks, the way she looks when I smile" is just SO FUCKING NINA ADORING NAT. nina just wants to be in the most fairytale coming of age movie ya novel lovestory and she says that her biggest dream in life is to get married. she wants to take care of her lover and give and give and give so fucking much and "I'll buy you a big old house on a big old hill And I'll grow old with my baby, 'til she's dead" is so very her. of course i chose clockwork cuz 'she's tall in the knees' and 'some green in her eyes' plus im a lesbian and havent fawned over sapphic relationships in months since i began my creepypasta return. LOL
eyeless jack and "downhill" by lincoln
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there r few words to describe the amount of guilt, horror, and devastation that jack feels after what he's done, all he's lost, and what he has to do to survive. he has a year of his life that he was literally possessed by a demon and went around fucking tearing humans apart and eating their remains. even as he's """recovering""" and settling into a cabin, his friendships with the creeps, trying to just feel okay. he's on his last leg, he can tell that people know he's a shell of what he was but they'll never know how warm, kind, inviting he used to be. "i went downhill at such a steep inline" ... yea he did his life changed immeasurably in a single night and it's never coming back. the lyrics "'Cause I was born into the world on a silken cloud / And I got bored of the world before I hit the ground" ... while he had a ton of pressure. he loved his life, loved his family, was the type to constantly express how grateful he was for everything that got him where he was. and then he hit rock fucking bottom because he wanted to chase a little excitement with the pretty girl inviting him to join a 'club.' poor guy
liu and "i'm not angry anymore" by paramore
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i dont think i need to explain this because um..... lols... liu just wants to fucking move on. he just wants to escape everything. he wants his family back, including the little brother he'd play catch with in the front yard for so many years. but he has his moments where it all comes barreling back, and he makes real fucking brash decisions - he lost his marriage because he spiraled trying to find jeff and moved to fucking alabama. so you know.
jane and "everest" by beabadoobee
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again, i dont think i need to explain this. maybe this could be mary(jane's wife) singing to jane, cuz she was one of janes main supports after her parents death. jane can only act strong for so long but she is so so so fucking sad and mourning and she was always so soft and gentle and sweet and she lost everything in a single night. she spent a short period of time filled with rage, as she would be, but her story eventually evolves into her just wanting to help others with their cases, be happy with her wife, take care of sally, grow old, make her parents proud. she's climbed mountains and is probably in the best place of all the creeps. holds her. i dont touch her character too often because i just want her to settle happily lolz..
ok thats all i got guys :3.. thank youuuuu thank youuu. sorry if my music taste is bad guys. LOL.
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skyj80 · 1 month ago
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more info about Ángelito cuz im invested. please anything
I GOTCHU I GOTCHU I ALWAYS WANNA TALK ABOUT MY SON
the way I imagine Ángel looking is based off my big brother (just tanner) Side by side comparison of my bro and Ángel
His favorite musical artists are Lauryn Hill, Bruno Mars, and 50 cent
One of his favorite things to do is write lyrics to carmen's beats (she does instrumental stuff on her guitar)
He likes to freestyle rap
He has undiagnosed dyslexia
When his family got a cat, he named it coquí
he says "im sleepy, like, all the time" (someone tell this boy about depression)
He doesn't actually know Carmen named him, he thinks he was named after his dad (if u want the name lore lmk) (oooo u want the name lore so bad. you really really wanna ask my about the name lore)
he took baseball for a while and HATED it (hispanic right of passage. we've all had to take baseball at one point.)
Since carmen can no longer be the first to go to college like she always wanted he feels pressured by the rest of the family to be the first
really good at video games
mainly watches cartoons/anime
unreligious like his mom (his dad and sister are christian. His mom was christain when he was growing up but lost her faith over time)
opposite to carmen (who is always trying to see the best in their parents) Ángel see's his mom and dad very negatively
got drunk ONCE at a party and it was incredibly traumatic for him (there is gonna be a whole scene and song for that moment)
good cook
forces himself to drink his coffee with milk even though he prefers it black (his mom drinks her coffee black he doesn't like having anything in common with her)
He and Dahlia (carmen's girlfriend) have days out where she will drive him to the mall and buy him shit
always wearing a hoodie
I don't have a love interest in mind for him (nor do I think there will be character like that for him) but I think his perspective of love was skewed due to his mom and dads marriage and was only mended when he saw how deeply Carmen and Dahlia loved each other (Ángel is gonna have a song where he basically kicks his feet and giggles at the thought of his future wife)
Definitely gets the "ay bendito" treatment from his family due to his grades and lack of girlfriend LKJHGDHJK
Ill probably add to this list as I think of more
THANK YOU FOR ASKING ABOUT MY BOY ILY
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gravedigg · 2 months ago
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"oh god i need it / i was wrong again / take me to the river / and make me clean again" crazy lyrics that make me DIZZY. is it cool to ask how they relate to angel?
Oh yeah absolutely!
The River by Manchester Orchestra is the second song in the war segment of Angel’s playlist, and it really symbolizes a big turning point in Angels perspective, from the military ideal he had in his head to the unpleasant truth of being stationed in a volatile desert, protecting oil investments for millionaires tucked safely in their mansions thousands of miles away.
When he joined the army he was just a kid in high school and he was fed this romanticized version of what the military stood for by the people around him, especially the army recruiters and jrotc instructors at his school.
And he was excited to be deployed, really felt like he was doing something good and important. But after a few weeks of scorching heat in the deserts, of watching the slow-building tension between the coalition and Iraq’s forces, he came to realize the reality of his situation, that he wasn’t really there to protect people, he was a pawn placed to protect certain peoples investments.
But his growing distaste for his role in this conflict was in a sort of dissonance with the relationships and brotherhood he was building with the men in his squad. They bitched and moaned about the heat and the food and having to hoof it through the sand, but they were still sold into the illusion of honor and duty that the army provides.
Angel felt, in a way, that he was betraying them by doubting all of it. But despite that, I think he found himself fantasizing about ways to get himself sent home, even though it was a cowards move. I think he knew in his heart that the army wasn’t right for him and that he would get out as soon as he could.
“Cheat, wanted a way out, crack my rib, wait to die”
“Me and my brothers, we have tongues sharp as knives. I found a way out, make a noise, close your eyes.”
“I'm gonna leave you the first chance I get”
And then, as the conflict progressed into 1991 and Angel started to see the devastation of the scud missile attacks and increasing assaults, as he saw the casualties of both troops and civilians, the cold horror of war really settled on him, and he found himself seeking absolution from a God that, as he would find, had no interest in answering his prayers.
“Oh God I need it / I was wrong again / Take me to the river / And make me clean again”
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pekoriamemories · 4 months ago
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another 4gamers article, this time with kajiwara gakuto and it mainly focuses on the song impressions. not really a translation bc im not fluent at all, just a summary and things i find noteworthy...
like with most roles, kajiwara got his role as hallritt through an audition (he also did another character) and seems like kajiwara's fluency in english was partially a reason he was chosen (hello kitty lore galore!)
kajiwara mentions that he thought the song he had to sing was quite difficult since the tempo was quite high.
murakami mentions that when creating EVER RED, he had to consider that it was a debut song for fragmem as a whole as well as RED BOUQUET/hallritt's first song. taking into consideration that both hallritt and hello kitty like to play the piano, the first note was decided to be a piano note.
murakami also wanted to express the transition from 'events' to 'memories' so in order to make the chorus pop out more, he put in a break in the B melody, and changed the key in the chorus to make it more catchy (musical terms that i don't understand but maybe others do)
the title EVER RED is based on the word "evergreen," which is often used to mean "something that continues to remain" and since fragmem itself values ​​the motif of memories and recollections, and even if things disappear, memories cannot be taken away...among other things!
when asked about any difficulties seeing EVER RED, kajiwara mentions that he found it quite easy to sing since he already had an image in his head.
before recording Your Melody, kajiwara was quite surprised at how much effort was put into the meanings behind the lyrics. a lot of little red riding hood motifs are also present (considering my melody's motif). kajiwara found the title of Your Melody quite tasteful in considering to My Melody.
there are various sections in Your Melody that references little red riding hood (such as the various どうして in reference to "why are grandma's ears so big" and "why is her mouth so big")
more musical terms i don't quite understand but there's an emphasis on the dissonant synth and the violin..
yotsubatsudzuri no rhapsody is suppose to invoke a 'relaxed and free older brother' vibe (in a good way), hence why it's a slow paced song featuring acoustic guitar.
since puruths hobby is looking for four-leaf clovers, murakami wishes for him to be as happy as a four-leaf clover. he's also the type of person to enjoy the small changes and happiness in life.
yotsubatsudzuri no rhapsody's mixed BPM represents the ups and downs of life. murakami mentions that he hopes the final "La la la" chorus at the end of the song can become one during the live performances.
kajiwara mentions liking Your Melody a lot from the perspective of the singer. he'd also like to try singing more 'natural-sounding' songs since fragmem features a lot of ''digital-sounding' music.
murakami would like to try having a song where kajiwara gets to make use of his english skills (not to the extent of NOIR BOUQUET songs though...) while still maintaining the RED BOUQUET 'vibes'.
for the 1st LIVE and 3DCG Wish is..., they mention wanting to include audience participation! since each performances will feature different performers, murakami hopes that the audience will be able to get a 'fresh feeling' that's unique to each time slot.
kajiwara also is excited about hello kitty, cinnamoroll and badtz-maru making an appearance lol.
in kajiwara's own words describing hallritt, he's "straightforward but imperfect, also human"
there's more related to murakami and BLUE/NOIR BOUQUET songs but since this is mainly focusing on RED BOUQUET, i'll stop here. seriously why is there so much to talk about...
maybe in a separate post idk
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memaidraws · 9 months ago
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On Repeat Playlist Tag Game
Rules: Shuffle your repeat playlist 10 times and tag 10 people. Tagged by @flymmsy 😘
If you've ever wanted to laugh at my musical tastes, no better opportunity now, folks!
I know a lot of you guys are within the venn diagram of shared/mutual fandoms, so what I'll do for this (to make things interesting) is assign a pairing for each song and a wee rationale as to why ;)
Tagging: @defira85 @atypicalacademic @dirty-bosmer @henbased @braindancer @feykiller @vasiktomis @circlejourney @chickenparm @sweatandwoe (sorry if you've been tagged before!)
SHEPARD / GARRUS (Mass Effect) Okay, Reina's technically not 'Shepard', and this is a big cheat because Jeon Somi is her voice claim haha. Definitely a song she's released out of spite when Garrus all but disappeared to play vigilante on Omega ;)
MARTIN SEPTIM / MARINA CORVUS (TES IV: Oblivion) Listen, listen, this song is so perfectly them it actually kind of hurts a lot. To people that surrounded Martin, Emperor-to-be, Marina was exactly the kind of troublemaker they needed him to stay away from. But to Brother Martin the man made of flesh? She was everything to him uwu
GORTASH / DURGE (Baldur's Gate III) Come on now, the lyrics are PERFECT for a Durge lamenting about the big dumb crush she's got on Enver and oh my god? He likes her back? (She says, kicking her feet in the air, after a bloody massacre, much to Sceleritas Fel's dismay)
MAYOR HANCOCK / LEE (Fallout 4) UGH oh my god so I know Lee Know from Stray Kids is his faceclaim but this song is very much them. Wanting to run away, seeking freedom where they can take it? Not wanting to take shit for all the crap that's been thrown their way? Yeah <3 Maybe for a modern AU <3
GORTASH / DARK URGE (Baldur's Gate III) It's not cheating! If Kill! Kill! Kill! was from Durge's perspective, I can see this being from Gortash's perspective (the fact this is one genuine emo/alt??? perfect for Gorty's aging rockstar look). Like come on, it's in the name, the lyrics, the screamo bridge? Davey Havok knows what's up.
ONMUND / ALREK (TES V: Skyrim) Oh man. Oh man so this particular album from Bastille has been very Onmund/Alrek coded to me (for reasons I won't get into yet ;D) But this is very much like Alrek watching the world quite literally burn and the only thing he can think of is courting the cute mage and throwing all his cares into the wind. After all, when the world's ending, why does any of it matter?
CAPT DELACOURT / MC (Heart of a Sky Pirate) Hey, my otome game officially lives on an app, so this counts ;D But these more upset, shanty-esque songs definitely reminds me of Delacourt and his romance route. Throwing your cares to the wind (literally) and having a grand ol' time no matter where the adventure takes you.
F!SOLE SURVIVOR / CURIE (Fallout 4) Hear me out: I think Parker's (my sole) romance with Curie is almost highschool puppy love. And it doesn't help that they both have some pretty huge baggage that they need to work through-- so having someone to lean on and love in a way that's easy, carefree and happy? Yeah they're gonna hold onto that <3
STELLE / MARCH 7TH (Honkai: Star Rail) Forever crying that my Caelus is getting so many better pulls than my Stelle, but fwiw, I definitely think Stelle and March have a very fun, easy-going relationship. Kinda need to when you're Trailblazing across the galaxy in a giant space train (and angering gods along the way, oops!)
GALE DEKARIOS / TAV (Baldur's Gate III) Hear me out: I think these two would be so into each other in the way that they absolutely would not leave each other alone. You think Astarion/Tav is bad? These two have it worse. To be more precise, my Tav for this romance, Rae, is very much into exploring his romantic curiosities with Gale. No one else makes him feel as safe and wanted uwu
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esther-dot · 1 year ago
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What do you think about song Bear and the Maiden Fair? While the bear is described as brown and black with hairs while the maid described as honey in her hair and pure. Many think that song is about Hound and Sansa because he saved her when other knights couldn't but the bear in song didn't seems to saver as it tastes the honey of maid when she was shrieking and kicking. Seems like forced touching just like Hound forcing on Sansa. Tyrion, Penny and Jorah had played the characters in Meereen.
I also received this ask about the song:
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(These are so old, neither of you may be around anymore, but I finally typed up some thoughts on this. Sorry for how belated this is! 😬)
I would assume that the reason so many relationships have a connection to the song is that Martin has an interest in developing relationships between extremes. At one point or another, he’s formed a relationship between youth/age, brother/enemy, beauty/ugliness, life/death, love/hate and I totally forgot the big one and had to circle back to add: ice and fire! Lmao). “Beauty and the Beast” is based on the interest in the juxtaposition of extremes, The Bear and the Maiden Fair offers something similar, so it makes sense to me that he repeatedly utilizes it.
The placement of extremes in relation to each other is an aesthetic thing some find compelling (created via The Hound’s size and scars against Sansa’s remarkable beauty and youth, Dany’s size, eye and hair color contrasted with Drogo or Jorah’s…), but more importantly, a thematic thing. We see the contrast vividly with Brienne and Jaime as well as Sansa and the Hound. Their appearance is at odds, of course, but what really matters are how their values are contrasted. Sansa’s beliefs and her nature are entirely opposed to the Hound’s, and if you think of Jorah as the knight exiled for being a slaver and the shame of his house helping the woman who attempts to end slavery (until she needs it) and restore her house…well, you get a version of that there too.
Being that Martin has stated he played with the Beauty and the Beast angle with Sansa and the Hound, but was surprised people shipped it, we should accept that Martin uses tropes/references for different purposes, not necessarily to signal an endgame romance or mutual interest even if that is the initial thought by the reader. Martin likes the inside/outside view of things, likes to examine ideas from multiple perspectives, and a character occupying different roles throughout the story allows him to extract a lot of meaning. Fans like to focus on how Sansa is wrong about a certain character, but the main intent behind all of this is the author challenging his reader when he forces us to examine and re-examine who characters are and what he is saying with them. The lyrics of the song twists our perception of things, so, even if I reject how it’s often applied, I agree that the concept behind the song is being discussed in these relationships.
We see the same beast/knight ideas with the Hound and Sansa as with Jorah and Dany. Both Dany and Sansa have these guys who are associated with specific animals (bear, hound), who function as protectors at some point even though they also betray them. Jorah’s betrayal is labeled as such in the book, but the Hound going from rescuing Sansa to assaulting her is a betrayal as well. Both men develop loyalty to the girls, they offer some protection, both have a sexual interest in the girls and both sexually harass them (Jorah kisses Dany without permission, the Hound assaults Sansa). I suppose Sansa and the Hound fit a little better with parts of the song because the girl is initially frightened by the bear while Jorah presents quite differently despite all the bear references. The bear-ish description of Jorah isn’t just the bear sigil, we also get all the hair stuff:
"I shall wish to speak with Ser Jorah before the night is done," her brother said. Dany found herself looking at the knight curiously. He was an older man, past forty and balding, but still strong and fit. Instead of silks and cottons, he wore wool and leather. His tunic was a dark green, embroidered with the likeness of a black bear standing on two legs. (AGOT, Daenerys I)
“He had a neck and shoulders like a bull, and coarse black hair covered his arms and chest so thickly that there was none left for his head.” (AGOT, Daenerys III)
and of course, he is referenced as a bear pretty often:
“Ser Jorah, her gruff old bear” (ADWD, Daenerys VI) and he’s referred to as her “bear knight” (ADWD, Daenerys III) and “My bear, she thought, my old sweet bear” (ADWD, Daenerys X).
I selected those from ADWD because to me, that’s when it for sure was deliberately connecting back to the song as Tyrion puts Jorah in the role of the bear:
"That one is part of our show. The bear and the maiden fair. Jorah is the bear, Penny is the maiden, I am the brave knight who rescues her. I dance about and hit him in the balls. Very funny." (ADWD, Tyrion X)
So, we begin the story knowing Jorah is a bear (Mormont), that he’s described as bear/beast, called a bear/bear knight, and then eventually, he’s playacting the bear from the song. Interestingly, the "knight" who fights the bear is acted by someone Martin has called a villain. I could never argue that the author isn’t being intentionally self-referential, he clearly is. However, we do have the fact that Jorah betrayed/molested Dany, and this:
Jorah Mormont's face was dark with anger, but he answered. "To serve her. Defend her. Die for her, if need be."
That made the widow laugh. "You want to rescue her, is that the way of it? From more enemies than I can name, with swords beyond count … this is what you'd have the poor widow believe? That you are a true and chivalrous Westerosi knight crossing half the world to come to the aid of this … well, she is no maiden, though she may still be fair." (ADWD, Tyrion VII)
I’m uncomfortable with the emphasis placed on virginity in the books and hate to use that (or beauty) as a determining factor in which couple the song is “really” about, but we have this line which I see as direct guidance from Martin about interpreting the Dany and Jorah relationship as a straight up version of The Bear and the Maiden Fair. The way it’s presented and challenged indicates that while in a particular dynamic or in a specific scene a character fulfills a certain role, that isn’t necessarily their overall role. To me, looking at the story as a whole, Brienne’s role is true knight, more so than maiden. Just as the idea that Dany is the maiden/damsel is present in her interactions with Jorah, but that isn’t her role in the story as a whole, no more than Jorah is the true knight. (He’s a slaver ffs).
As for the Jaime and Brienne of it, Jaime protecting Breinne from a bear slots him into the knight role, but as they struggle over who is fighting the bear, there’s a play on who is in the knight role and who is in the “maiden” role. Also, Brienne is mockingly called beauty and Jaime is described as a beast, and while those characters are being cruel to Brienne, to the reader, we know Jaime has done horrible things (attempted kid killing = monstrous), and we know Brienne is the purist soul (goodness=beauty), so taking a step away from the superficial, we are getting a layered play on the trope. And yes, Brienne is a virgin and Jaime a knight, we can leave it there, but Brienne is a knight in the truest sense and Jaime is beautiful, so I think the best way to look at this question of who this song is “about” is to accept that the trope being discussed is getting a rotisserie chicken treatment. We’re allowed to see it from every juicy angle, not limited to one. After all, Jorah is a knight and a bear.
Of course, as I already said, since the author likes to reference things without implementing them the way people expect, this doesn’t necessarily mean romantic endgame, but saying that doesn’t mean I’m dismissing Braime because I do think Martin wrote in the romantic stuff deliberately. The whole knights/fools etc is at play in that scene too:
"What are you doing here?"
"Something stupid. Get behind me." He circled toward her, putting himself between Brienne and the bear. (ASOS, Jaime VI)
Brienne is referenced as the maid in this scene, but later she reads like a knight on a quest to save the fair maiden --Sansa. We even get some “The Bear and the Maiden Fair” singing there. If they ever meet, I would expect some beauty/beast discussion to crop up just as part of this continuing conversation about roles, part of the characters revolving through them to allow the author to thoroughly analyze the ideas and evolve what fairytales are/say. In their pairing, Brienne would be the knight to Sansa’s maiden to allow for Martin to contrast Brienne with all of our failed knights.
We get a lot of duality with these characters/their roles which means we can ask, who is the knight/who is the bear and come up with many, many answers. All of them true in a certain light, only to then turn them on their head. Sometimes, a failed knight rises to the occasion, and sometimes the maiden saves the knight, and sometimes, the knights are evil, sometimes the knight isn’t a true knight. Sometimes salvation comes from where you least expect it, and sometimes, rescuers are also a threat. The roles are there, but Martin is playing with them, challenging them, so the multiple ways we can read these characters and dynamics is very much intentional. All of that being said, it’s undeniable that there is one maiden for whom the song is particularly relevant.
Sansa fits the maiden role in a much more overarching way than our other contenders. Not only because she’s a virgin, not simply because of her interest in romance or because so much of her story has been driven by various people’s sexual/political interest in her/marrying her, but because she represents certain attributes, foremost of them, mercy. We get in trouble when talking about how beautiful she is, but it can’t be disregarded because she represents hope, innocence, compassion, peace. Martin made her beautiful not just as a physical thing, rather, because she is representative of ideas; she is the beauty of certain ideals.
The Hound who laughs at killing children is moved to protect her, can’t follow through on his own desire to harm her. Dontos tells her,
"A knight?" Joffrey had decreed that he was to be a knight no longer, only a fool, lower even than Moon Boy. "I prayed to the gods for a knight to come save me," she said. "I prayed and prayed. Why would they send me a drunken old fool?"
"I deserve that, though . . . I know it's queer, but . . . all those years I was a knight, I was truly a fool, and now that I am a fool I think . . . I think I may find it in me to be a knight again, sweet lady. And all because of you . . . your grace, your courage. You saved me, not only from Joffrey, but from myself." (ACOK, Sansa II)
Personification is a thing and even though she is a multidimensional character, I think the way Martin has written Sansa makes it clear that he is calling back to old archetypes here which is why, when you hear “maiden fair,” Sansa is the referenced character in an overarching way, not just in a specific dynamic, not just in a specific chapter or one book, but in the series, this is who she is in a way that no other character is.
Her role in the story is notably the tropey damsel in distress/princess in the tower (in a way that Dany and Brienne are not), and even with the revision of what that means by a modern author, even with the idea growing and evolving into something new, with the girl having far more agency and inner life than in older stories, it’s so clear this is who she is that even her haters know it. They call her a princess in a tower to show their disdain, but all they’re doing is admitting that even they recognize who she is in the story.
And of course, there is the fact that Sansa is referred to as a fair maiden, even in her TWOW chapter, that her beauty is often remarked upon, and that she has some parallels with Persephone which seems pertinent due to the Beauty and the Beast/Hades and Persephone/Death and the Maiden connection:
Petyr cut a pomegranate in two with his dagger, offering half to Sansa. "You should try and eat, my lady."
"Thank you, my lord." Pomegranate seeds were so messy; Sansa chose a pear instead, and took a small delicate bite. It was very ripe. The juice ran down her chin. (ASOS,
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LF is her uncle (by marriage), he spirits her away from KL and is clearly intent on making her his, and as we know, he’s orchestrated destruction for her family/the realm, so he fits in here as a kind of Hades (death) to Sansa’s maiden which is relevant considering how loosely related death and the maiden is to the beauty and the beast idea.
However, the thing that feels the most like the author directing us to a specific conclusion must be reading her first chapter in ASOS which might as well be called “the Bear and the Maiden Fair chapter” because we finally get the lyrics to the song, and it’s interspersed into a scenario that is kinda telling a similar story. Sansa wants a beautiful knight (Loras), but is offered a stranger instead (Willas). We’ve also just read a speedrun through all the fake knights/bears/suitors/“love interests” Sansa (or fans) have selected for her:
Sansa wondered if Joffrey knew of this supper. For all she knew, it might be his doing. That thought made her fearful. If Joff was behind the invitation, he would have some cruel jape planned to shame her in the older girl's eyes. Would he command his Kingsguard to strip her naked once again? The last time he had done that his uncle Tyrion had stopped him, but the Imp could not save her now.
No one can save me but my Florian. Ser Dontos had promised he would help her escape, but not until the night of Joffrey's wedding. The plans had been well laid, her dear devoted knight-turned-fool assured her; there was nothing to do until then but endure, and count the days.
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Even so, she must accept. She was nothing now, the discarded daughter of a traitor and disgraced sister of a rebel lord. She could scarcely refuse Joffrey's queen-to-be.
I wish the Hound were here. The night of the battle, Sandor Clegane had come to her chambers to take her from the city, but Sansa had refused. Sometimes she lay awake at night, wondering if she'd been wise. She had his stained white cloak hidden in a cedar chest beneath her summer silks. She could not say why she'd kept it. (ASOS, Sansa I)
So, we have the prince who turned out to be a monster (Joffrey), the guy everyone thinks of as a monster who protects her (Tyrion), a knight who she saved but sexually harasses her (Dontos), a man who threatens her but ended up saving her only to then turn around and be a threat himself (The Hound). See what I mean about multiple roles? My gosh, it’s almost like the author has intentionally been writing variations of the song into Sansa’s story all along, or even, dare I say it, he's written Sansa’s story into a song, only, none of these match up perfectly, so we are still waiting for the true(est) incarnation of this song to manifest into her story.
Or, all of that shorter:
"I CALLED FOR A KNIGHT, BUT YOU'RE A BEAR! (ASOS, Sansa I)
"I prayed to the gods for a knight to come save me," she said. "I prayed and prayed. Why would they send me a drunken old fool?" (ACOK, Sansa II)
So, if Sansa is the maiden of the song, the maiden fair of A Song of Ice and Fire, who is the bear, who’s the knight? More importantly, where is this poor girl’s hero?
Y’all, this is getting ridiculously long. Now, I’ve never not done something for a silly reason like not wanting to appear ridiculous, but I can’t post seven thousand words all at once. tumblr staff will deactivate my account to save me from myself! I will get to Jon and the Jonsa of it all in part two.
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optimismxmagicism · 4 months ago
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Happiness, to share
Dancer mastery Word count: 1150
“Hum-dee-dum, A market full of food, it all smells so goood~! Shopping’s what I do, classes, I’ll make it through~!” Full of energy, Ewan was strolling down the busy streets of the local market and singing a little song to himself. It was the tune he’d been practicing on during dance classes, though the lyrics were a silly creation of his own. While dancing was his sister’s thing, with him being more about blowing up the bad guys, the ball that happened a while ago inspired him to try something new. Plus, he was the little brother of the best dancer ever, it was practically in his blood! How hard could picking up this new skill be, right?
The answer to that, would be very very hard. From missteps, slipping over his shawl or just losing his balance, it seemed as if he left every session with a new bruise somewhere on his body. It really put into perspective how much effort Tethys puts into her routines, huh? By now it seems as if dancing was like a second nature to her, every movement effortlessly graceful and beautiful. A part of him wanted to give up, it wasn’t like dancing was something he was particularly passionate about, but.. Something piqued his curiosity. A few days ago, when he felt he had perfected his routine, yet the coach failed him regardless. It led to an interesting conversation. “Ewan. Why do you dance? What goes through your mind when you’re on stage?” She asked. “That’s easy! I think about everyone watching me, and It motivates me to do my best! To be like my big sis!” Was his answer. In response, the coach only sighed. “And that’s where your problem lies. Until you figure out a true reason, your dancing won’t rally anybody. Think about it, give it some time.”
He thought about it several days now, yet his answer remained the same. He didn’t even know what was wrong about it! It really stumped him… Suddenly, his expression shifted to the sound of drums. Looking to the side, he saw a group of musicians, all putting on a performance. Hmmm.. He wondered what motivated them.
As he moved to look more closely at the performance, yet another sound drew his attention. This time, it was the crying of a small child. He was all alone, with seemingly no adult with him. Poor guy.. Ewan decided to forget the musicians for a little while, and instead moved to chat with the little boy. The mage stepped up to the child, a friendly smile on his face. “Hey there little guy, what’s the matter? Why are you crying?” He asked, as gentle as possible.
“Uuuuh… M-Mommy… I can’t find her anywhere.. She told me to w-wait, and She’d come back… But she hasn’t yet! Waaahhhh! What if she doesn’t like me anymore, so she left me?!” The child wailed. So, he was waiting for his mom, and she took a while.. Ewan could sympathize, even if he couldn’t really understand.
“Don’t worry, I’m sure your mommy will be right back! No mom would ever abandon their child, I promise!” Though the words were meant to be comforting, he couldn’t deny how bitter they felt on his tongue with how badly he wished those words were true. At least the boy took some comfort in it, from how sobs turned into quiet sniffles. “Y..You.. Are you really sure?” He asked, looking up to Ewan with teary eyes. “Yeah, definitely!” The mage quickly confirmed.
“O..Okay..” The boy still seemed upset, his eyes downcast. Though he stopped crying, his mood hadn’t improved much. 
“Hey, how about we wait together?” Ewan offered. He couldn’t leave this kid alone, not now. Perhaps staying with him would help him feel better too. “Oh, I know! How about we do something fun while we wait? Something like…” 
He wanted to reach for the tome in his bag, for a fun magic trick! ..Unfortunately, he had left his bag at the monastery, thinking he wouldn’t have needed it for minor shopping. Darn it! Then.. then..
He remembered, as well as heard, the sound of drums and wind instruments behind him. “How about we dance?” He offered. Though not his preferred method of cheering someone up, it was the best he could think of at that moment.
The boy seemed curious, though a little unsure. “Dance..? I don’t know how to dance..” Ewan gave him a comforting smile. “No worries! We can dance together, and it’s all about having fun! There’s no need to be perfect. Here, I’ll show you!” 
On the beat of the music, Ewan began to move. Though this wasn’t a routine like he followed during classes. He simply let his body move however it wanted, with large movements, bubbly steps and a lot of smiling. It wasn’t the most elegant of dances, but It didn’t need to be. Tethys was elegant, Ewan’s thing was more conveying high energy and cheer, a style much more focused on cute over beauty.  As this entire time, his movement was guided by one thought. “I want to make him smile again.”
Led by that selfless desire, his cheerful steps were like magic. People were staring, But he didn’t care. The audience that had their eyes on him, mesmerized, didn’t matter at all. All he wanted to do was make that lonely little boy happy.
Sad eyes turned into surprise. Before slowly, they turned into delight. The boy, who had been nothing but tears up until now, slowly began to smile. Laugh, even. A twinkle appeared in his eyes, one born from genuine happiness. He began to clap along to the melody, swaying his body to the rhythm. A little dance of his own.
Emboldened by the other’s joy, Ewan began to dance with even more fervor than before. He was determined to see the song through to the end, together with his little partner. The music swelled for one last moment, before finally dying down. And with that, so too did he make his last movement, striking a pose as the big finale.
Applause erupted from all sides, much to the young mage’s surprise. He hadn’t even noticed the fact everyone was watching, so focused on  the boy’s smile…
Then it struck him.. This was what the coach meant, wasn’t it? This entire dance, he didn’t think about recognition, or being like his sister. He never needed the eyes of a crowd.. What he wanted, what his dance conveyed, was that he wanted to make someone happy. This dance wasn’t for himself, it was for the little boy that needed cheering up. This dance.. Was wholly selfless.
And what was the result?
A little boy, who found himself with renewed joy, courage and energy. Who could smile again after having lost it. A little boy, refreshed.
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jmkho · 2 years ago
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The One Where They Did An Album Lore Podcast
Summary: The boys decide to talk about some of the lore behind TBAGG.
Words: 3k LMAO NOT 14K IM AN IDIOT
Warnings: swearing, drinking, talking over each other, gums smacking lol, questionable lore,
Extra note: Thanks to @starcatcherkiszka for sending me a msg asking if I could write this. And also to the OP of the picture that was attached about the guys doing a lore podcast. I tried my best to add some crack into it but also squint hard at what I've written about the songs these are just notes I myself have come up with after listening to each song and looking over the lyrics a lot to try and write something lol so don't take this seriously it's just ramblings of a mad woman.
“Well boys, I think we should at least introduce what we are doing.” Danny spoke into the mic as he looked around to the others. He smiled. To say he was excited was an understatement. 
“Well, I think as the best speaker among us…well, yeah, all of us, I think I, the ever so eloquent, Josh, should, well , you know, should tell the people, the fans, what we are doing today,” 
Sam, who was sat opposite him, opened his mouth to say something to that, but Jake beat him to it. “Go ahead and explain.”
Sam turned his head to look at Jake as if to say, "Do you want to be here forever?" Jake just sat smiling at his twin, totally aware of the burning look into his face, but couldn’t give a shit. “Josh has a magical way with words that will really get this podcast set off, so I think he should be the one to let everyone know.” Jake’s gruff voice broke out again.
Josh cleared his throat. “Well, today we are going to take a balls deep dive into the magical, the mysterious lore of The Battle of Gardens Gate.” 
Jake closed his eyes at the sound of ‘balls deep’ but went with it.
“Exactly! And today we are ——-“ Sam’s voice suddenly went quiet. Josh was moving to look around the mic in front of him to his little brother. Sam decided to move his head as if to speak AROUND the mic to Josh.
Jake pointed a finger to the mic to remind Sam, who just moved, and carried on talking about whatever he was going on about. “—so to say that it took an interesting turn is true.” 
“So guys, shall we go from song to song in order on the album?” Danny asked.
The rest all began to mumble out answers, talking over each other, but he got a collective ‘yes’.
“So, Heat Above. Where shall we start with that one?” Jake smiled into the mic, looking around.
“Well, the opening song comes across as a pleading, right? So, then it moves onto talking about how life ————-“ Sam’s voice went again as he moved his head, looking Josh dead in the eye but was nowhere near the mic. 
Josh laughed. “Sammy, you gotta talk INTO that round thing in front of you and stop leaning to talk AROUND IT TO SPEAK AT ME.”
Sam stopped and leaned back into his chair. “Right, to me, the song means living through the bad, like pushing through it despite bad things still happening around it, you can still live through it an experience good. And to ME, there’s also something with change in the song.”
“What makes you think of change?” Danny asked.
“Well Daniel, by ignoring the bad and ‘the fire burning around’ you can still live, and I guess that makes people make a change to their life. So, the character in the song wants to change above anything else."
The guys all smiled around at each other. 
“Yeah, I agree with Sammy on that view. It seems like a great perspective to have, almost as if the person within the song is putting a stop to the bad things happening to them, like war, to live how they want to.” Jake added.
“This is a great idea. I just wanted to throw that out there into the abyss of the listeners out there. Thank you for asking us to...well, I guess talk about the album’s meaning more and what’s happening.” Josh smiled into the mic with a big grin.
“Next song, My Way Soon.” Jake cleared his throat. “I think this song is quite obvious. We only have one life, and I think this song, in particular, was written to express that. We have so much freedom and so much we can do that we should just do what we want and explore what we want and I think that’s why people, sort of, well love that song, it’s a sense of I’m free and I’m going to do just that.”
Danny nodded to him and leaned into the mic. “I think Jake said everything. There isn't a lore behind the song, story wise, but you can use this song to express your freedom of wanting to, well make your own story."
Someone burped right into the mic after that, which broke the magical moment Danny's comment made.
“Broken Bells is another type of story, I guess you can say?” Sam took a sip of his drink as he looked at Jake, who nodded.
“Yeah the idea of this world was one where the world that’s within this album has people that are forced to fight when they don’t want to, there’s destruction, loss of people, loss of nature, and that-that really stuck with me when writing some of these songs. I wanted to tell a story, a film even.” Josh added
“The person in the story talks about not being able to see stars, doesn’t want to sleep, but still holds hope for the world and themselves.”
“Yeah, there seems to be a lot of hope within this song-“
“I love this song” All three brothers spoke over each other at the same time. And were weirdly having 3 different conversations with each other at the same time.
Danny just sat there looking at each brother until he leaned into the mic. “Built By Nations.”
That stopped them. They all looked at Danny, blinked, and all went “Ah yeah…” and then started talking over each other again.
“WARRRR!” Josh suddenly yelled, clawing at air as he held his hands up.
Sam pulled a face and then commented how the person in the story doesn’t want to follow his brothers but does so because he’s a coward and doesn’t have any pride to do what he wants.
Jake interjected that the person in the song was merely not really a brother but more of a soldier who was bounded to the others because of being forced to fight. Thus making them brothers.
"We're all brothers." Josh said quietly into the mic as Jake and Sam started going on about the soldiers. Sam lifted his cup and waved it about a few times as he spoke, not caring if he spilled any on Jake.
Danny listened to all three of them ramble on at the same time. “What about the line, Trouble gets so loud? What does that represent?”
Josh laughed. “I think us.” He lifted his shoulders in jest. “That’s the war that’s happening. And the wounded warrior can be taken in two ways, I guess, I mean if you want to take it two ways-“ Josh rambled on about how people can interpret songs while Sam’s attention went to the snacks he brought in.
He actually forgot he had them but thought bringing in something to munch would be his best idea of the day.
He tore into the plastic wrapper, making a loud rustling sound before he shoved some Oreos in his mouth.
Jake laughed, letting his head hang as Sam began to chew loudly, directly into his mic.
“I wish I could get deeper with your guys….um, whey-hey to that.” Josh mumbled into the mic, barely making what he said even recognizable before finishing it with a giggle. “But, Sammy has decided to get peckish and near enough, EAT the mic.” 
Sam chewed, looking at him. “Wmhwat?” 
“Your chewing into the mic so all the listeners can hear is your gums smacking.” Danny spoke up and stifled a laugh. 
Sam looked at the drummer, then down at the packet on the table. He wordlessly picked them up and offered them to everyone, still chewing. 
“Anyway! So the wounded warrior can be taken as in this, person, this character we are following, that he has been wounded in war but also maybe that he wounded because he no longer the person he once was because of the war.” Josh sat back with a smile, crossing his arms as the rest of them all broke out with comments.
“I never thought of it that way before.” Danny commented with a smile. “That’s actually an awesome way to look at this character. Is it an actual war that’s happening or one within.”
“This is getting really fucking deep, and I wasn’t ready for this type of discussion. We should have gotten drinks.” Sam took a large gulp of his drink as soon as he stopped talking.
“You have a drink in your hand right now.” Jake lifted his own to take a sip as his younger brother nodded, “True but it would have been better with something harder,”
They all started talking over each other again, Sam was talking about which drink would go with his Oreos as he sat there shaking the packet at the twins. Jake was laughing, telling Sam and the listeners that drinking harder stuff would just make them talk all over each other, despite that was what they were doing anyway. And Josh broke out with his own rendition of, Edwin Starr’s ‘War’.
“-HUH! GOOD GOD Y’ALL!”
Danny knew he has to try and get their attention BACK. He unemotionally leaned forward to the mic. “Age of Machine.” 
That didn’t work as good as he hoped. They merely stopped for 3 seconds and then broke out again.
“-humans grow and destroy things it’s about how humanity-“ Jake was getting into the zone, leaning more towards the mic than he was before. 
“Take a step back from what we think we’re wired into and realise-“ Josh was waving one hand around as he spoke.
“But then he told me he wanted to go bowling instead so I said-“ Danny had no idea what the fuck Sam was talking about.
“TEARS OF RAIN.” He yelled this time. 
Sam slapped a hand down on the table. “NWO DIS WILL BE GUD TWU TWALK ABWOUT!” Oreo crumbs flying out of his mouth as his spoke.
“What gets me about this song is that I never sing this live. I know for a fact I’ll over think that fucking high note and crack out.” Josh mused for a moment.
“Yeah, but you scream your balls off for that long ass note in The Weight of Dreams with no effort everytime, so maybe, get your head out of whatever you think about, and just scream your balls off when singing this.” And with that, Sammy lifted his cup and cheered his older brother, who sat there looking at him.
A soft smile faint was on Josh's lips. “Ah yes, I’ll just, as Sammy said so delicately, scream my balls off, next time.”
Sam nodded as if anyone could see him. 
“Bringing us back to the song and not focusing on Josh’s balls for a moment.” Jake cut in but got a bark of a laugh down the mic from his twin. “This song can almost have a connection to Heat Above.”
“I get what you mean, with the rain?.” Danny agreed. 
“So, the people within the world are begging for rain. The land is hot, it's just getting worse and all they want is rain. But could this also be about change?”
“You mean like the weather changing?” Sam asked.
“I think I know what Jake’s getting at.” Danny let out. “I guess the rain can be used as a metaphor almost? Like a metaphor for change. They want things to change as it will make their world different since, apparently, there is no rain. There are so many ways songs on this album can be taken and that is literally, like….you’re following a form of story through some songs, or you can take it as metaphors and apply them to even yourself. To your own life and story.” 
Josh grinned widley. “By joe isn’t he dandy?!” He let out in an English accent which Jake joined in with. “Yes, just splendid.”
Danny beamed a smile. 
“Speaking of rain, Stardust Chords.” Sam spoke way too close to the mic at that time, which made Danny wince. 
“I don’t know how that connects to rain, but okay.” 
“From what I get from that song is that the garden has been cut down, nothing is there, it’s all done and everything has fallen. Next song.” 
“Okay….One of our, well, every song is much loved, but you know what I mean. I mean, when we released-“ Josh went on a ramble again as Sam sipped more of his drink and shoved more Oreos in his mouth. Jolting forward a little when one hit the back of his throat, making him splutter out into a coughing fit.
Jake began to laugh manically because of how much he was going on. “Who the fuck thought this was a good idea? Letting me on one of these? I should run for, for office with how well I speak. Don’t you agree?” He looked around the booth to the other members as he broke out in a loud laugh while Sam's coughs were calming down.
“What Josh was trying to say was, The Broken Bells.” Danny saved the day again.
The boys all started talking over each other AGAIN.
“This is where that master is kind of mentioned-“ Sam spoke to Danny this time, gesturing with his hand at the mic as if it was the master.
“—-seeds mean growth, we need to replenish and keep growing to keep going-“
“What I liked that was the fact freedom was promised if they fought in this war, but was he telling them the truth-“
Danny couldn’t take it anymore, they were running out of time for their podcast slot.
“QUICK FIRE ROUNDS GO! LIGHT MY LOVE!” He yelled again
The brothers all looked at him and almost began to panic.
“Er, er, er….shit!” Josh groaned.
“Love. It’s about love. Finding love, having love, having someone make you feel love? Right?” Jake asked also getting in a panic.
“Also Danny wrote it!” Sammy threw in as he began to chug his drink as if he was being timed for drinking.
“CARAVEL!” 
“A BOAT!! EXPLORING NEW PLACES” Jake quickly yelled.
-“A SEXY SOUNDING BOAT!” Sammy yelled back.
“How can a boat sound sexy-“ Jake laughed, but then Danny cut him off
“THE BARBARIANS!”
“HAVING ENOUGH OF FIGHTING! AM I A WILLING PERSON IN THIS OR DOING IT CAUSE I’M TOLD? BESIDES I’VE DONE WHAT I’VE NEEDED. OUR HOME HAS FALLEN FROM THE WAR. BYE.” Josh yelled, screwing his eyes closed, hands clenched. 
“We should play that song more just FYI.” Jake commented and everyone made a collective noise of agreement. 
“WE SHOULD! TRIP TO THE LIGHT FANTASTIC!”
“Think it’s about traveling amongst the stars, going through time, to live, to experience-“ Sammy was actually getting into giving a deep answer until Josh cut him off.
“I vote doing the ramramram bit again in a new song.” 
No one said anything they just looked at Danny as if to say, “yell the next one.”
“Oh, right.” He coughed. “THE WEIGHT OF DREAMS!”
“Ah the ball screaming song” Josh laughed and lifted his shoulders again in jest.
“This song is actually quite deep.” Jake smiled into the mic. “The mention of gold can be seen as exactly what it is, something people want, something people need to survive but then having things such as gold, money, whatever, can actually destroy you just as much as you think it will, well I guess, fix or help you?”
Sammy nodded and pointed a finger to him. “Yes.” They all looked at him as if waiting for him to say more, but he didn’t.
“Um, I guess that’s it, right? Did we make it on time?” Josh asked, looking around for a clock.
“Yeah we have a few minutes to spare, but that was quite tight.”
Jake barked out a laugh, throwing his head back.
“Well, I guess, thank you to all of those who listened and who wanted us to explore this world and our thoughts or feelings would have you. It was truly fun and I hope we can um, well I guess do more of these right?” He paused to smile at the other who all mumbled in agreement.
"Bye everyone!" Danny let out smiling and everyone joined in.
"Sweet dreams!" Josh waved to no one.
"All our love!" Jake was smiling at Josh as he continued to theatrically wave.
"See ya next time!" Sam finished the tiny bit left of his drink, then turned to look at the drummer.
"Hey Daniel, have you ever-" and his mic cut out.
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etherealising · 1 year ago
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OMGOMGOMG You’re so sweet! I’m so happy my song recs are inspiring you 😭, I also read chapter 8 and listened to the songs and read the lyrics separately for the best experience lol, I sobbed what can I say, my favorite one was Your Needs, My Needs! amazing chapter like always, it took me so long to read it because work has been crazy, it was so sweet to come home and see that you had updated and that you tagged me? You made my night thank you so much
I’m also a very slow reader and when I saw all the chapter tags I made a playlist with your songs and some of my own lmfao, Philadelphia by Good Night & Good Morning, and I Bet on Losing Dogs by Mitski! Song recs are not exactly a birthday gift but lets pretend, happy late birthday, hope you had an amazing day!
Now, the chapter… 😭😭😭 I was so sad by the end, but I’m happy they are on somewhat good terms now, Natalie can finally rest! More or less. Baby finally coming clean in some parts it’s so good, for her and for Carmy, he needed to know that he wasn’t the only one going through stuff, and that his fear of commitment really impacted other people, even if the way things turned out were not completely his fault. He felt so bad knowing about the alcohol and pills, I can’t imagine how he will feel when the other shoe drops. We also had another part of the puzzle, the fact that it was Richie that found her the day of the miscarriage make his disgust for Carmy even more reasonable (and sweet? In some twisted way lol, we love a protective “older brother”), I hope we can read in the future what exactly happened and why. The chain and the pendant are also a beautiful detail, it’s the small details that make a story so memorable and you nail that every time.
I loved it! Can’t wait for the next chapter!
you could have read this chapter a whole year later and i’d still be screaming at this message! 😭 but yes they have all been so inspiring it is crazy! but omg yes, your needs, my needs was the heart and soul of chapter 8 i was bawling whenever it came on! i’m so happy to have made your night, you literally make my day anytime you send me an ask i like almost jump up and down when i see you in my notifications!
more song recs?!?! you spoil me, i will damn sure accept these recs as a birthday present! and yes it was quite great, thank you for the well wishes lovie!!
i was so on the fence about having them make up, but i just want to right them in love and lovin on each other so bad now! but yes nat can take a break for now lol. yes i thought it was well beyond time for baby to at least admit something to carmy, and you’re absolutely right hearing baby’s confession kind of gives carmy perspective like he’s not the only one struggling through things, but i also thought it was important to denote that no matter what, just because he loved her that didn’t mean anything would be different. not the other shoe dropping 😭 but yes richie is 100% so much team baby it hurts his big brother senses are always tingling around her lol. i’ve decided i’m not going too into detail about the miscarriage because of how delicate of a topic it is but when baby reveals it to carmy she will explain what happened. the chain, pendant, and flower lore are probably my favorite detail i’ve included in this series like its just so close to my heart and i love sharing it with you all!
i’m so glad you still love this fic so much and i can’t wait to continue sharing it with you! 🤍
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bubblesandgutz · 10 months ago
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Every Record I Own - Day 803: The Rolling Stones Some Girls
Did the world really need another Stones record in 1978?
FM radio had been overrun by disco. And even the rock world was gravitating towards harder stuff---The Sex Pistols and The Ramones were the new rabble-rousers. The Stones last album, Black & Blue, was a bit of a bust.
And did the Stones even have it in them to make a record at this point? Keith Richards was facing a possible seven-year jail sentence in Canada for possession of heroin, and only by the intervention of Jimmy Carter was the guitarist permitted to enter the US to undergo rehabilitation in the months before recording. The odds weren't in the band's favor.
Adding to the gamble, Jagger took on the lion's share of writing and aimed his sights at two diametrically opposed musical phenomenons of the time: disco and punk. It could've been a disaster. Instead it yielded an album that's generally considered a return to form for the band. The disco-inspired "Miss You" became a massive hit while the fiery punk influence of songs like "Lies" and "Respectable" showed the world that The Stones could still go hard. And yet the album still sounded like classic Stones.
I wasn't privy to any of this information when my older brother gave me this used copy of Some Girls many years ago. "This was the only Stones album I ever really liked in its entirety," he told me. I recognized "Miss You" and "Beast of Burden" from the radio, but the rest of the album just kinda sounded like that band I'd always written off. Like Let It Bleed, this one sat neglected on my shelf for years until it finally sunk in during the pandemic.
"When The Whip Comes Down" was the song that finally got me. This must've been one of the songs Jagger wrote with the intention of matching the punks' piss-and-vinegar. To my ears, it actually sounds more like AC/DC than The Ramones, but with its two-chord attack it arguably has more in line with punk primitivism than the Aussie's big riff anthems. The song only got better once I paid attention to the lyrics:
Yeah, mama and papa told me / I was crazy to stay / I was gay in New York / Just a fag in LA
It's a song written from the perspective of a gay hustler. Pretty bold for the world's biggest rock band in 1978.
With that song as my entry point, the rest of the album quickly grew on me. "Just My Imagination" is an undeniably solid soul cover. "Some Girls" is a bawdy jam, even if the tongue-in-cheek lyrics are a little tough to deal with in 2024. "Far Away Eyes" scratches my country itch. I don't know why it took me so long to fall for Some Girls charm.
I know people expect an artist's trajectory to be a straight line, but the Stones showed that there could be peaks and valleys. And as was so often the case with the band, the Stones often hit their highest points at their lowest personal moments.
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Ateez MV Teaser Thoughts
The preview starts and ends with the moon, the cromer, and all that important stuff but I’m not feeling big brain enough to deal with that just yet, so I’ll dive right in with Dreamy Day.
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First off, seeing them back at the abandoned wearhouse in Universe A gave me so many emotions I thought I wouldn’t have. It’s just so nostalgic. When listening/watching in chronological order that’s always what comes first; the wearhouse. I very much wasn’t expecting it to come up again. Not now.
It (paired with my theory on Crescent 2 and the rest of the MV clips) really got me thinking. Ok, so Dreamy Day is a dream about the wearhouse days. Before their group fell apart, before Halajoong showed up with the cromer, before they lost Yeosang and then got him back, before they witnessed death, before they even entered Universe Z. It really makes sense. If you were lost, and having a hard time, you would dream of when things were good, right?
I ran a few other theories through my head, like maybe it’s Halateez wishing they had a past like that? Or maybe that Feverteez ran away and went back to world A? But it just seems improbable. (At least for Dreamy Day) The teaser is called “The World EP. Fin: Will ‘World A’ Preview” so it’s probably safe to assume it’s about Feverteez not Halateez, and while they could've gone back home at some point, the placement of Crescent 2 and the lyrics of Dreamy Day suggest otherwise. So I’m sticking with that option.
Dreamy Day is Feverteez dreaming of the past. But it’s still just a dream.
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The rest of the MV’s could go a completely different direction. Assuming that their unit songs (which I had previously assumed to be lore unrelated) are lore related, there are a handful directions the latter half of the album could go.
1- It could be an anime level flashback explaining their individual pasts, how they met, their emotions, and emphasizing how the past is affecting what they do in Strictland. That would make sense from a story perspective, and a solid chunk of flashback could be justified timeline wise if they’re in a dreamscape.
Going with that theory Matz, iT’s You, and Youth would be about Matz, Woosangsan, and Yungi being/becoming friends. Whereas Everything would be about someone Jongho left behind due to either time travel or depression.
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2- It could be them going off and doing their own things. Frankly MATZ, iT’s You, and Youth’s settings still feel fairly dystopian, and Everything’s teaser takes place almost entirely indoors. So it’s possible they’re in Strictland, or perhaps in the future of Universe A.
If they’re still dreaming it would make sense that they’re in different places. It would also explain the more introspective or otherwise nonsensical scenes like this vv
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3- It’s more related to Halateez than I originally gave it credit for. Yea it’s “World A” but who says Halateez can’t go to world A? Halajoong did it before, and besides they would’ve had to have traveled there at least once on accident to know how to repeat it.
Actually, I’ve been thinking about that for a while. After learning how to time/universe travel did Halateez ever just drop into other worlds to take a break from their own shitty one? Is that where they learned so much about music and art in a world that outlaws it? On top of that, other than the Real we know almost nothing about Halateez other than that they know how to Time/Universe travel, are fighting the government, and look just like Feverteez.
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I only suggest this theory because the setting and characterization in the Youth teaser make me think that it’s Halateez. Yunho is dancing in a room that is reminiscent of his brother’s old room, but at the same time, it’s not that room. The roughness, and desperation really shines through. It reminds me how much those two really had going on in their lives in the lore. Canonically Yunho has lost his brother twice. Like, think about that. Perhaps it’s Feverteez Yungi finally letting loose. Or maybe that whole Fever/Halateez merging into one theory is onto something…
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4- It could be Feverteez going home and dealing with their own problems. Learning how things have changed, grieving the past, or perhaps embracing the present.
I mean, what happens if Feverteez really does go home? Everything will be different. They will be different. Even if they return to the same place in the future it will never be the same as it was in the past. Even if Halateez and Feverteez are separate people, their time together will have influenced them. That and the threat of death they faced everyday. Seeing the suffering of others. Feeling their own power and helplessness. Witnessing death. (The Will diaries really held nothing back.)
There’s something beautiful and horrible about coming home a changed person. On one hand, life is good. Home is good. But on the other hand….Somehow coming home after a long time makes you realize all the messed up things about your everyday life you never noticed before. You have a lower tolerance for people’s bullshit when you’ve looked death in the eyes.
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At some point in their journey they crossed the point of no return. (*cough* Wonderland *cough*) They will really never be the same people again. There was a point where the people they once were died.
I don’t know unit MV’s will be them going back home, but even still it’s an interesting point to consider…
Do they even have a home? In reality? Outside of their dreamy day?
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Anyway, as always feel free to add your opinions. (*^v^*)b I’m just so excited!!! Like, not only are they feeding us good music & good content, but it’s lore heavy too? Ateez never disappoints fr T^T
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teenagemutantninjatrauma · 2 years ago
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Figured I might as well dump my ideas out here, if anyone wants to steal these, so here goes:
TMNT ideas (inspired by music) that I don’t have time to work on, looking for a good home ✨
1. A Raph crossover animatic set to Wrecking Ball by Mother Mother
All the Raphs join up and go to a wreck room, or an old building they can thoroughly obliterate.
Rise Raph originally supervises, like “hah thank goodness I don’t have issues like this, I can just be the responsible one and make sure no one gets hurt”
And then he proceeds to have a flashback to when he was krang-ified and couldn’t fight against it and almost killed his brother. And he joins in
And all the other Raphs cheer because they get to watch him use his ninpō
They all go to therapy afterwards 👍
2. A Rise Leo animatic/songfic based on Lie a Little by Confetti
Not much to say here, guy’s repressing his trauma
I will say that I discovered this song through an Undertale animatic and now I feel everyone is sleeping on Rise Leo clearly being a Sans kinnie
3. 2k3 Mikey and Leo bonding moments with Mr. Blue Sky playing in the background
Mr. Blue Sky, in my brain, is such a “from Mikey to Leo” song — it’s the youngest sibling going “well that’s fuckin ridiculous stop being edgy” and the oldest sibling going “oh. Maybe that is a little ridiculous” and they get to be funny together
I think maybe the song follows Leo through all the times he’s gotten messed up, and then pans over to Mikey, trying to cheer his brother up
4. Rise Apritello animatic/AU based on Hot Wings (I Wanna Party) from the Rio movie
AU where Donnie doesn’t know the other turtles and neither does April. Possibly a Separated AU? Do whatever you want <3
Somehow, Donnie and April, two strangers, end up chained together. They now have to find a way to break the chain and go their separate ways.
It’s Donatello, so to prevent the plot from being resolved immediately by his genius, let’s say the chain is magically indestructible in some way. Maybe it’s Draxum’s villainy or whatever
They end up dragged off into the city’s underbelly by friends they make - other mutant turtles - and a big friendly guy named Raph who they originally go to for help breaking the chain brings them to a club where his brothers work. Mikey is the DJ, Leo is a singer (and a drag queen. You know I’m right)
They party and have a good time, and perhaps fall in love <3
The important bit about this to me is colors. Mikey has that one jacket with splotches on it from Clothes Don’t Make the Turtle, everything and everyone is neon and the perspectives are a little tilted at all times!
5. 2k3 Donnie & Mikey concert, they sing Bang Bang by Green Day
That song is just viscerally a tmnt song to me okay
Specifically Donnie and Mikey because I think they’d vent about their brothers through this song
Speaking of them, we start the song by Mikey and Donnie playing the instrumental opening on drums and a guitar, and we see snapshots of Leo and Raph in the city, about to get into a fight
We cut to Mikey for the start of the song, he is INTO IT, he’s singing the main lyrics!
Elsewhere, Raph and Leo get into a fight. It progressively gets harder and harder as it progresses while Donnie and Mikey continue playing, perhaps to an audience? Perhaps there’s people and this is on stage
There is a melody at about 2:15 in the song where I think Mikey summons his dragon spirit, just for the effect of it, just for the drama.
Raph and Leo see the light of it from all the way across the city, and start heading there, jumping over rooftops, racing each other with smiles
Donnie sings the “hoorah” while Mikey interrupts with “BANG BANG!” in the background
6. Silly goofy Rise Mikey set to Eighth Wonder by Lemon Demon
Genuinely just a Mikey tribute. I think this song very well describes him as a cryptid and a mutant but still as a very neat little guy
He celebrates being the way he is, and it rubs off on his brothers as well. He’s a sunshine :)
Honorary mentions:
Infinitesimal by Mother Mother — a Donatello crisis. About what and which Donatello? Yes.
Teenagers scare the shit out of me by MCR — just turtles kicking ass and someone (possibly one of the villains) realizing that they’ve been just kids this whole time.
The pitiful children from Be More Chill — 2k3 Oroku Saki trying to convince Leo to join him, in that one early episode. Bonus points if Leo does join him or someone else gets messed up during the song.
Family by Mother Mother — honestly just a massive crossover of the turtles defending each other, brother or not. They all have to stick together.
Trying Too Hard (specifically the Thomas Sanders cover) — 2k3 turtle angst. Everyone is stuck in their own head and sad. That is all.
You’re Not Welcome by Naethan Apollo — unhinged 2k3 Donnie or 2k3 Mikey. I think there should be more art of them being threatening, as a treat!
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