#the magnus archives spoiler

[joneevarts]

Desolation!Tim :D

[late-to-the-magnus-archives]

Your yearly reminder that Elias chose to report Gertrude as missing on the Ides of March

He thought he was funny and he was

[first-time-tma]

i have listened to episode 79 and 80 yesterday and OH MY GOD

First: SASHA IS DEAD. Noo!!!!!

I mean, I suspected that something was wrong with her for a pretty long time but I thought she could be SAVED. AND NOW SHE IS DEAD.

Also, this makes me VERY scared because any last hope that main characters had some sort of plot armor or protection has VANISHED.

I AM VERY VERY AFRAID FOR MARTIN, TIM AND JON.

Speaking of martin and tim: WERE THEY TRAPED IN MICHAELS CORRIDOR THING??

FOR HOW LONG????

They said days at least!

Omg I swear if Jon doesn't FINALLY tell them everything I will go INSANE.

But I am very scared that he WONT

Also, Leightner is dead as well??? ELIAS KILLED HIM!?!??!

I never thought Elias was perfect but I did NOT suspect him to be getrudes murderer omg!!!

These episodes were insane

I will be listening to episode 81 today and I hope to get SOME answers about whats going on!

[pigeons-with-jello]

hold on have yall been seeing watchers crown and thinking like crown as in the hat??? like tiara kinda crown??? ive honestly heard watchers crown and thought, like, head ykw. like theyre taking over a host like we saw with elias/jonah and its the ceaseless watchers head now yknow

[fiuworks]

i like it when people doodle tim with a whole cartoonishly large stick of dynamite in his hand instead of a detonator

like i like u bbg lets go full manual drive in this circus tonight

[l-wandering-etranger]

don't you just love it when they doom infinite timelines for the person they love?

[ID: The cover art for Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint and The Magnus Archives. End ID]

[mita-vittua-olivia]

rip to 2 michaels

[patrilles]

Really torn between the I REALLY WANT IT TO BE JON AND MARTIN BC I LOVE THEM and the I DON'T WANT IT TO BE JON AND MARTIN. FOR THE PLOT

[disappointingcabbage]

lmao can we talk about how Worm Lady Jane was in the walls for months and Jon only noticed bc he freaked out about a totally unrelated spider and broke the fucking wall

Local Archivist too underqualified and focused on reorganizing to worry about supernatural worm invasion, more at 11

[indigonite]

Please…

[k11lka]

bonus:

[mewy101]

yeah

[the-doll-house-gallery]

I like how Jon's powers in Season 5 is basically this meme.

[tyrannosarahsrex8]

Welcome to the “whoops! I accidentally started got manipulated into starting the apocalypse!” Club. Members being Jonathan Sims and Mable Pines. They’re both ✨traumatised✨

Bonus comic

[caseofthea]

This is a really prevalent take that I've noticed appearing and have been thinking of myself and I want to point out a detail I haven't seen Anyone mentioning.

Namely the fact that Alice says "It started about a year ago".

TmagP appears to start off in early summer of 2022, or atleast that's when the two stories in ep1 take place and it's reasonable to assume that these are more or less recent cases, seeing as the computer system scours the world wibe web for cases and the team at the OIAR have a full case load each night.

To people who have actively listened to season 5 of tma while it was coming out, this might make a few connections in their head, because the last episode of s5 aired on the 25 of march in 2021, which is incidentally, "about a year ago" in the current setting of tmagp.

Now I don't know if the last episode of tma is also set in spring of 2021 or in 2020 or if time was non-existent in the eye-pocalypse caused a bit of timey wimey loop holes for this to work but to me this makes is seem that when Martin cut the tether and the world went back to normal with both Martin and John gone coincides with Chester, Norris and Augustus appearing as text to speech in the OIAR's age omd computer system.

Lmao my TikTok was too long to upload here so I’m just gonna retype it all out

Chester and Norris: Are they really Jon and Martin?

Wrong question imo! The BETTER question is: How MUCH of Jon and Martin are Chester and Norris?

The fact is these programs have SOME link to Jon and Martin, Jonny and Alex would not be voicing them otherwise, so what it comes down to is how much of a link?

Because it could be that it’s ONLY their voices. Annabelle explained to Jon that the tapes belonged to the Web, and that by “taking his voice” Jon was therefore bound to the Web and the other fears by extension. It’s entirely possible that when the Fears left Archives’ universe, they brought Jon (and Martin as he was also on the tapes) voices over with them, but JUST the voices. Nothing else. It’s just a coat of paint over the entities methods of collection, Chester and Norris aren’t Jon and Martin anymore than glasses are the person wearing them

But I’m not sure that’s the case. There’s a lot of holes there. The main one being: why? If it is just hollow voices, then why? What’s the purpose of the fears using them? It’s only been two episodes, so it might be answered later, but let’s talk about the second possibility

Chester and Norris ARE Jon and Martin, they just aren’t aware. When Martin “cut the tether” in episode 200, he didn’t cut the Fears away from Jon, he cut the Fears away from the world and at that point, as the Pupil of the Eye, Jon was part of the fears. Since Martin was in the panopticon when they went, he went too.

And now we have a disembodied Jon and Martin existing in a dazed but still hungry state. They seek out whatever’s familiar and since there’s no Magnus Institute, they go to the OIAR, get into their system, and read out any “real” statements they can find. Feeding off of them.

In this possibility, Jon and Martin are effectively asleep. They aren’t aware of what they’re doing really, just going by their new instincts/nature. But I think the more they feed, the more conscious they’ll become, and we’ll start to Chester and Norris break script. Stutter over a word. Add words. Things that a text to speech program simply CAN’T do even if glitched to shit

What complicates this possibility is the fact that Alice said they only showed up a year ago when it’s implied the OIAR has existed much longer than that as well as the fears in this world. It could be they move from place to place feeding off what they can, and when that’s bled dry, they move somewhere else? If they’re as intertwined with the fears as this theory implies, they could exist across infinite universes, staying alive like this

I’m not sure! It’s super interesting tho. I think the saddest ending would be if it’s never really answered, and Jon becomes, at least in some ways, a mystery

[sewaryka]

right now, he's prey.