#the lost frontier

[elise-the-blind]

this is what happens when you girlboss too hard Phoenix, talk shit get hit.

Just to be clear, eco is still disappearing/acting wacky in this AU, only dark eco is being unaffected-light eco suffering the most. Jack is perfectly capable of using dark eco.

The pirates end up shooting the plane down. Im not a huge fan of it being Daxters fault, hes a bit of a doofus but not an idiot, and with Jak being able to get the upper hand theres no reason for him to do anything rash.

Phoenix is now stuck trying to figure out if that random pilot he started a fight with is one of the prisoners he dealt with in the past or a new experiment that escaped. Meanwhile Jak is just "god damn brat, i've fought gods and im still having to deal these morons fml"

[segaphantom]

HERE'S A CRACKPOT THEORY FOR THOUGHT:

The ottsel leader is actually Mar. but listen. Listen

Mar mysteriously disappeared right before he was suppose to use his weapon correct? What if he just pulled a Metroman; except he never truly forgoed doing things for the planet

He's aging and retired, his body can't go on adventures like he used to. So what else is there to do than let himself accept the offering of becoming a precursor that he for so long has put off?? He gets his whole veger moment of "I can't believe I've let myself turn into a gd rat."

Redrawing the leader as human with jak's colors makes for some eyebrow-raising design features too:

And if you subscribed to the theory of Jak being The Mar...well.

Same hair, beard, and eye shape.

Tldr; ottsel jak is plausible

[woelfin-sheeps-clothing]

Yes I have deadlines to be catching up on Phoenix is going as Flynn Rider for Halloween. What do you suppose Jak and Daxter would go as? Jak I can see pulling off Cloud Strife. 🤔

[wynandcore]

I’ve looked vaguely through the Lost Frontier cutscenes. Why do they look like that

Also extra doodle of what he’d look like for most of the game if Lost Frontier was fucking cool

[imsickenedbutcurious]

I thought I was going crazy but then i rewatched through the cutscenes and no- Jak is noticeably taller in Jak X but magically shrinks in TLF.

Got nothing against short kings but everyone being taller and towering over Jak in TLF made the overall game hilarious.

[jak2gooberglub]

In light of the recent release if TLF dark jak conscpet art. I made a few of these >:)

[thinkkirby2]

If Lost Frontier were be different or Canon, I would put this.

Skyheed was clever trying to become one of the drained… he thought he can Defy the Consequences of becoming one of the Drained…

He tried be make a powerful species, but he failed too. with his death, his soul would be taken away by the drained. Well, At least I'll try to Ignore Lost Frontier since High Impact did Damage to the Jak Series.

[auroblaze]

I Love *clenches fists* Sonic Team's varied creechures designs

[texaschainsawmascara]

Charlie Hunnam, Papillon

[beelzebat-art]

Bloody kisses~ I mean it's tomato sauce guys I swear (Also again it's glazed so funky texture)

I accidently posted this to my private account and had NO IDEA I'm a genius xD It's here where it belongs now~

[elise-the-blind]

Ayo is that a fucking cat, thats a weird looking fucking cat, BLINK MOTHERFUCKER

this bastard has no sense of personal space and will make everyone uncomfortable by just existing

im slowly giving him crazy scientist in essence of Baron Draxum but make no mistake, barry would not be amused by any of it

also im gonna bring this up, and its not something i think is true at all, i did like one google search just in case, but anyone think theres any chance, at least in early development, that Skyheed and Phoenix were meant to be related. again, i really doubt it, but it feels like something about their interactions is missing and i need to stop the hatmans getting closer

[segaphantom]

BREAKING NEWS

I REPEAT

BREAKING NEWS!!!

BOB RAFEI'S WEBSITE UPDATED TO INCLUDE TLF'S ORIGINAL CONCEPT ART!

AND DARK JAK WAS GOING TO BE IN IT!!!!!

[woelfin-sheeps-clothing]

I like the idea that Phoenix got a micro dose of dark eco along with the rest of the upper chain of command in the Aeropan Air Force--a nicer, well balanced blend that they mixed after trials on humans. (Which would better help explain why Duke Skyheed looks so ghastly and like he has an iron deficiency). The dose had some mixed results, and that's how Phoenix learned about the experiments before kidnapping Tym.

He kept part of his uniform from the rainbow guard and took to hiding as much as he could the evidence of what happened to him via long sleeves and make up (mottled skin, claws, horns, etc.). I'll do an intact uniform and sleeves rolled up when I have time. Being a commander he was purple in the spectrum. Lower ranks are red, orange, and yellow.

[vui-kun]

distant frontier shitpost

[essycogany]

Rare But Not So Rare Sonic Moments

Flaws

This may get controversial.

I welcome anyone else’s view point on this topic. If you don’t agree I’m okay with that. Just because I have a different perspective doesn’t make what I think right or wrong. You don’t have to change your mind. Whatever your opinion is, I respect it. Besides, it’s fun to have different views on something we both love. It gives us a way to see different sides of the coin.

Disclaimer: I’m a person who didn’t grow up with this franchise and only recently got into in early 2022. I have no biases towards any version of this character. Making my opinions about his characterizations mixed.

By the way, I’ll only use Sonic games as examples (for the most part) because this analysis would be too long if I talked about other medias.

In short. Most of his flaws do stir into different medias as well. To be honest, Sonic’s other variants aren’t as different as some may think, but that’s my hot take.

Times The Blue Blur Messed Up

Riders: Sonic lunched Amy along with Eggman into the air with his wind abilities. While knowing Amy’s safety would be at risk. Then left her. Which was the reason she was so angry and aggressive afterwards. He didn’t ever apologize either.

06: Exchanged a chaos emerald for Elise even after Tails warned Sonic not to.

Unleashed: Was distracted by taunting Eggman.

Sonic: “Well, this is new. Showing remorse Eggman? If you played nice, I wouldn’t have to break all your toys.”

Then became the Werehog. All because he wanted to boost his ego.

Secret Rings: Shahra used Sonic to collect the world rings for Erazar Djinn. Even though it should’ve been expected because she said, “They use to work together.” Ended up not being true.

Black Night: Was tricked into helping Merlina who wanted to create a world that would last forever.

Lost World: Tails once again tried to warn Mr.Impatient about the conch in Eggman’s hand, but kicked it anyways. Then warned Sonic about another trap, he didn’t listen, ended up getting the fox captured instead.

Frontiers: Accidentally helped free The End despite Knuckles and Sage’s suspensions. If his friends, Eggman, and Sage didn’t help him…..Well, it’s in the villain's name.

Side Note: In Secret Rings, Black night, and Frontiers Sonic was rude at points.

Sonic Sassiness

Sonic Sassiness Part 2

Sonic’s Overall Flaws/Mistakes

Some may be from his general characterizations throughout his history.

Sonic rushes into things without a second thought. (Impulsiveness) Sonic can be too reckless, brash, or not take situations seriously.

He’s impatient. (Which was his core trait since his idle animation in Sonic 1)

He doesn’t listen to his friends warnings. Sonic can be too cocky at the wrong moments. He causes or contributes to world ending consequences. The blue blur can also be too trusting and naive.

Sonic doesn’t worry about his own physical or mental state and internalizes his emotions. He isn’t able to express himself very well. Therefore doesn’t put the right words together when speaking sometimes.

Sonic can be stubborn and a bit of a jerk.

Sage: “You are short tempered and short sided.”

And that’s about it. If I missed anything, feel free to let me know.

My Thoughts

A few of these can be seen as Sonic’s strength and weaknesses. Like his willingness to harm himself if it means to save his friends.

The reason Sonic never learns from his mistakes in the games is because he gets away with them. Which is not a good or bad thing per say. (Besides Sonic Riders. There’s no excuse for that.)

The stories never really given him an arc. But I don’t think Sonic’s a perfect or flawless character. If the examples I’ve shown are evidence of anything.

I’d say he’s static, but not consistently. Most static characters I’ve seen rarely stays static anyways.

I also don’t believe Sonic himself thinks he’s perfect. Sonic probably thinks he doesn’t have to change because he’s so sure he should be able to manage things without issue. Everything does eventually go his way. Why should he change?

I do understand Sonic influences people, but why can’t there be a balance? It’s been done plenty of times with other characters. In books, movies, and tv shows. Animated and live-action.

Movie!Sonic in Sonic 2 inspired both Knuckles and Tails. Helping them better themselves with advice and encouragement. While also going through his own arc of growing up and being responsible.

Tails:“You’ve inspired me. To leave my village. To find you and help you on your mission.”

Despite him learning how to slow down and plan things out, Prime!Sonic also inspires the different variants of his friends. Thorn, Dread, and Nine. Helping them grow into becoming better people.

Even in Unleashed Sonic was at his most mature, but it was only after his cocky attitude got him into trouble. So, yes. Inspirational characters can have flaws.

I’ll just say this

Everyone has their own views on how Sonic should be characterized, drawn, played, voiced, animated, and showcase.

It’s fine if you don’t like a curtain interpretation of a character, but to say the character (Especially if they weren’t very consistent in the first place) isn’t acting like themselves now, it’s really hard to argue what self there is to come back to. Because even in the games there are so many different selves for these characters in their own canon universe. From Classic to Adventure, Unleashed, Colors, and Frontiers. (If that makes any sense)

It’s hard to find one place to be in because Sonic’s been in too many places at once. He shouldn’t be held down to one characterization if he’s already been all over the place from the beginning of his existence.

AKA Sonic’s first two shows ever. TAOSTH and SATAM. In both shows Sonic had flaws as well, but never learned from them. Which means he’s been like this from the start. Like everything else about this franchise, his personality is an ongoing experiment that’ll probably never be solved. And I kind of love that. Even if it can be stressful and has it’s own up’s and down’s

All of these unique stories from the games, comics, tv shows, and movies people grew up with are what made this franchise so popular. This is the main reason I became a Sonic fan. Because I learned so much about characterization from this franchise and how to love the different variations of its characters. Finding an appreciation for each of them.

Conclusion

Everyone’s opinions are valid at the end of the day. At least we all have a version of this character we can love and appreciate. Whether you agree or not I’m grateful you’ve made it all the way to the end. You’re a trooper!

Stay Creative! 💜