#the kpop references yeah 😭

[jealousmartini]

Hii, one day I came across ur acc, and I loved it! Even the aura I scripted for my kpop drs, is the same as yours but with some different things lol Today while still deciding some things to add to my aura, I realize that I REALLY wanna create some drama. Like me and an idol having beef, or me defending myself bc a female iodl wants to beat me up idk but I feel like i'm the only one lmao. I see everyone wanna be friends with their idols and their s/o but I wanna be an idol specially to know all the drama going behind the cameras, the HOT tea. Like did 2 male idols ever beat the sh#t out of each other back of the MAMA building during awards shows? Or how do idols ever go to parties with out being caught? And if so, do idols who are minors go to parties?? Bc I'm a minor rn, and I'm going to shift with my age, and I LOVE parties 🤩 but I'm not gonna script things like "all idols can go out freely" bc I wanna see the raw thing, how idols actually live.

Actually I just came here to ask u if u have any drama with another idols in ur dr, or if u plan to script anyone. And if so who and why? 🧐 But I ended speaking too much lmao. Anyways, love ur account 🫶🏾🫶🏾

OH MY GOSH ITS YOU! I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST SAW YOU LIKE ONE OF MY POSTS BUT YOUR PFP THREW ME OFF CUS I THOUGHT IT WAS ME LMAO😭😭😭

ANYWAY HEY SWEETHEART IM SO GLAD YOU LOVE MY BLOG❤️❤️ AND OHH MYY GODD I LOVE THIS ASK SO MUCH I HAVE SO MUCH I WANT TO SAY SO ILL BULLETPOINT THEM

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DRAMA, CONTROVERSIES, AND SCANDALS.

DATING RUMOURS

First I'll start off by saying Taehyung and Jennie were 100% dating back in 2017-2019 and those pictures taken of them were definitely real.

And speaking of BTS members dating other idols, the biggest controversial dating rumour circulating BTS is if Jungkook and Chae Kyung are secretly dating because of the amount of references we've have made about each other and the candid pictures taken of us hanging out

Other than him, I do have like 5-6 dating rumours with other idols too but "KyuKook" or "Rookie" is the most popular ship surrounding me in my reality.

Also I kind of have a thing for controversial ships can't lie. I am a freak for older men (AS LONG AS ITS ONLY THE MEN I LIKE LMAOO😭😭) so I do not care if fans ship me with yoongi or jin or whatever cus I may or may not have scripted it but that's none of your business.

BEEF RUMOURS

Now see me personally I don't have any real beef with any idols but more with anonymous haters. There are countless meme clips of me responding to haters cussing them out and fact checking them it's actually hilarious how I am 85% of the reason why O.M.G is called the messiest group.

Yeah no beef rumours for me

IDOLS GO PARTYING

No one actually understands how much I love this topic because in this reality, I am not big on parties but I wish I liked them so ive scripted in my kpop dr that I enjoy parties (I also scripted I'm a bit of a lightweight just to be dramatic) and I have always wondered how idols got away with sneaking out to parties some of the time unnoticed.

Of course not always because of those candid pictures of idols walking together and dancing in a club but the idea of it is so exciting to me plus I don't really gaf if a fan sees me and I get hate for it lmao. I'm out here dancing and being shipped with YOUR "oppa", and YOU'RE🫵🏾 not!

If anything, I am looking forward to those candid pictures cus I love the attention so nah I'm not scripting "idols can go partying freely" I LIVE FOR THE DRAMA. GIVE ME THAT ADRENALINE RUSH🗣🗣‼️

[ibrainrottomyself]

i never rlly post anything in tumblr since im usually on the kpop side of tumblr and rarely ever use it, but here i am. hello everyone 😭 anyways, i was rewatching disney’s peter pan 2 return to neverland ( a REALLY GOOD movie, i highly recommend you watch it ) the other day and something just clicked-

so for context, in the end of the movie, there is this once scene in which peter pan reunites with a grown up Wendy. I was never the one who enjoyed disney sequels that much, but this. this scene. oh my GOODNESS. it was soo 😭😭😭😭😭 so 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔

IT WAS SO SAD I CRIED. anyways. When Peter first reveals himself to her, he kinds of jumpscares her ( not rlly, i just dk how to describe it LMAO ) in which she flinches/move backwards

AND THIS. THIS SEEMED SO FAMILIAR TO ME. ITS LIKE “wait where have i seen this before” AND THEN IT HIT ME LIKE A BUS.

the symbolism. the reference. THE PARALLELS 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔this is probably old news to many and is most likely intenionally done by the animators and storyboard artists- but omg. i know this small detail probably went unoticed by many, and you might be thinking

"eh? so what? its not a big deal💀”

TO YOU.

"yeah we already know Imao" well then heres just me ranting then: i feel, to me atleast, this detail symbolizes how Wendy has grown up, no longer the same girl she was in the first movie. Peter was a figment of her childhood, and their reunion is a sweet and heartwarming reminder that growing up doesnt mean loosing her inner child.

yeah thats all sorry for the random yap 😭😭 i grew up with the first movie so seeing this small detail imo, really captures Wendy’s growth as a person🙏 well done to the storyboard artists !!

( p.s sorry for the bad english, it isnt my first language )

[jaehattori]

Not sure if y’all know but ofc im a kpop fan as well as a dcmk fan! I always get excited whenever I see kpop idols reference or dress up as dcmk characters so I would like to show you some!! (Also I’m only doing kpop idols who have dressed up as characters from dcmk)

FIRST THING OFC NCT JAEMIN AND MARK!! As a fellow nctzen, this feeds me very well, especially as someone who’s a huge fan of kaito kid and barely see idols who cosplay as him. Also they are both my twins ( in zodiac signs)

NEXT HENDERY FROM WAYV (NCT also) I think it's obvious he's dressed up as the culprit. I love that he also had some props with him

SHINEE MINHO (dibidibi) I've noticed that SM idols love Detective Conan. Like I'm doing cosplay but they reference it so much.

JUNGKOOK BTS (listen to standing next to you it's very good) He was aiming the watch at everyone 😭

SUNGJAE BTOB (IM SORRY I BARELY KNOW ABOUT BTOB 😭)

WOOZI SEVENTEEN (Every idol is ready to shoot someone with that watch 😭)

CHOI YENA!! (Sorry it’s blurry I couldn’t find a better picture) There are probably a lot more idols but sadly couldn’t find more BUT YEAH LOOK AT THEM CONANS

[hood-ex]

How did you like mutant mayhem? who was your fav

Loved it!! I had SO much fun watching it!!

The turtles getting their groceries from shipping containers/trucks?? Brilliant! Love that take!

I was pressed when I read that Leo was going to have a crush on April, but I actually didn't mind it in this case. (Even though I 100% prefer for them to just be best friend's/family and would never want to see April with any of them). Like Leo being such a nerd made it work plus April didn't show any interest in him, so it didn't bug me like I thought it would. Now if they try to turn that into something in the future then we're gonna have a problem, but it being a one-sided thing that Leo will hopefully grow out of (quickly!) is fine.

Speaking of April, I LOVE this version of April, and I love how they switched up the reporter thing a bit with her being super anxious to be on air bc it made way for some character progression. I do tend to prefer her being quite a bit older than the turtles, but I feel like her being a teen like them works in this universe.

Also, I love it when Leo is characterized as a nerd who says cringey/nerdy things sometimes and they delivered on that beautifully here with his speeches. It's veryyy 2k12 Leo vibes. Fucking loved it. Especially loved it when Leo actually had an amazing rousing speech during the Superfly fight scene and then after Raph complimented him on it, Leo started geeking out about how cool he sounded LOL. Obsessed.

"GO NINJA, GO NINJA, GO!" I started screaming when this started playing!! Secret of the Ooze reference let's gooo!

The milking... THE MILKING... the nipples and the milking!! Mikey and Raph got milked!! That running joke killed me. Also, since Mikey got milked first, I couldn't help but compare that to 2k3 when Bishop was going to use a saw to cut into Mikey's carapace while all the other bros had to watch. Althouuugh... ngl, I kinda wish Raph had gone a little more berserk over Mikey getting milked since he's so protective, but I understand they were trying to keep the mood light even though... it was... a torture scene... so uhhh... anyway.

"6 N' THE MORNIN' POLICE AT MY DOOR!!" 😂

"He's molly-whopping me!" LMFAO I was wheezing

All the bros singing BTS for Donnie's sake, and Donnie being like, "You guys don't even know the words..." HAAA

I love it in every iteration when Splinter gets involved to save his boys and this time was no different. Hell yeah feral rat dad!!

Mikey and Mondo Gecko, hell yes!! Bro, when the explosion rocked all the turtles and Mikey was disoriented?? The way his eyes looked after that?? Yeees!

THEIR SHELLS CRACKED 😱😱😱!! That "I'm gonna crack you like pistachios" joke killed me though

WHEN THE NEW YORKERS STARTED HELPING THEM TAKE DOWN SUPERFLY YESSSS LET'S GOOOO!!

Mikey or whoever telling Raph he needed therapy ALSKDJA

All the mutants living in the sewers with the turtles?? Full House vibes!! With Bebop and Rocksteady there idk kinda weird but I guess it works for this version of them.

I could not with their high school fits like 😭 April please take them shopping 😭

All in all, I thought it was super fun and I couldn't stop laughing the entire time. There was still kiiinda more of a Leo focus this time around, but it wasn't nearly as much as the Rise movie, so I'm glad it felt more balanced between each brother (and thank god we didn't have to sit through another Leo vs. Raph type of beef thing).

I think in terms of characterization, Leo was definitely characterized the best and felt IC. I feel like there could've been a bit more development for Donnie, Raph, and Mikey. Donnie had his anime/kpop thing, Raph had his love for violence, and then Mikey... there wasn't anything super defining about him other than maybe the fact that he signed up for the improv team try outs. But honestly, I'm not that mad at it because I'm sure they'll get more fleshed out in the TV show that's coming in the future. Now that they're attending school, I do kinda hope that Donnie takes some kinda robotics/woodworking/science classes because I'd love to see him develop the skills he's always depicted with.

As for my fav, I mean, it should be noted that Mikey is always my guy and that I'm usually going to focus on him the most in every scene, but other than him, I'd say Leo. I also really enjoyed April, Splinter, and Superfly though.

[jayflrt]

as much as im annoyed by the potential implications of the mhj/hybe drama i do feel like theres way too much speculation rn ... rlly doesn't sit so well with me that everyone is bashing on mhj alone (im not supporting her either though) and not bang sihyuk too. some hybe stans rlly js worship the guy and idk why . its not like he's innocent too. like those texts from him are so annoying too. abt if she's satisfied that nwjns is so popular and also abt trying to rival aespa / bp alone ...

hybe has sm power and r known for their mediaplay so i rlly do wish people would keep that in mind instead of doing their own speculation to bash on mhj . we don't know fs if she's the reason behind seunghan, youngseo, etc .... it seems so forced that everyone just collectively is making stuff up on their own theories and pissing on her. like im all for it when everything's done with but it's giving misogyny to me ughhh idk how to explain it eitherr without sounding like a mhj stan I PROMISE IM NOT TAKING HER SIDE T_T i just cant help but feel like poeple find it easier to hate and bash on women sometimes. even me scrolling x nowadays feels so annoying. literally feel so bad for illit and nwjns rn.

personally i was a teeny annoyed that illit had a similar image to nwjns w their nostalgia/coquettecore (also though just seems like cute/youthful concept is making a cb in general in kpop) but only because their songs on super real me were the exact type of songs i liked most from nwjns (super shy, hurt etc. the softer less peppy songs compared to hybe boy) so it bothered me that there was an implication that nwjns might be forced to distance itself to a more differing concept to keep some contrast btwn the two ... but ik that's not illit's fault at all (literally love the girls sm im a runext fan ^^) i feel like i can understand the upset that illit was getting a similar concept when every other grp before illit in hybe had more defined concepts seperating each other. but once again that's all hybe's doing ...... seeing the choreographers supporting mhj too makes it seem like not even the nwjns team or even all the staff were on board with the references in the choreo either...

anyways i do hope this controversy doesnt impede on either grps promos :( and i rlly hope everything gets sorted out... im srsly hoping this doesnt turn into a 5050 situtation again but with nwjns i was so upset when that happened . was curious on what your thoughts were or if u were keeping up with everything?

i feel like i've seen a good amount of people bashing them both but we could have different tls maybe !! but yeah i don't know why there's so many hybe stans 😭 it's been this way for a long time + armys idolizing bang pd back when bts was the only group under bighit. i feel like everyone needs to just accept that all these companies are trash and you can't be defending ceos

i do get what you mean because women are often criticized far more when those same things would be overlooked if a man did it,, however i don't think that's the case here 😭 because 1. she has an extensive history of s3xualizing minors back from when she was in sm and 2. it was revealed that she and bang pd bought out source music to debut a girl group so it's not that far-fetched to say that she could have sabotaged the trainees from source music, especially after she said that she didn't want to debut sakura because she was "too old." some of the other theories people are making definitely don't have much of a basis but i think most people also recognize that the main victims of all this are newjeans and illit + the other groups mhj dragged in with her. so yeah i wouldn't call it misogyny that people are going after min heejin, and honestly i'm even more surprised that people just forgot about how she sexualized shinee, red velvet, jisung, and newjeans and only started calling her out after this incident 😭 she's always had a LOT of defenders and personally i've never felt the need to defend billionaires :/ also mhj's a businesswoman who knows how to play the media herself. you can see it even in her press conferences; she's bringing up different groups to take attention off of herself and talking about her "relationship" with newjeans to garner sympathy from everyone

i think hybe definitely was shady for greenlighting illit's concept when it's clear there was inspiration from newjeans. i personally just assumed they discussed this with ador but i guess not?? so weird that they don't act like proper adults in that building. i'll also say that i don't think min heejin's concept for newjeans is original or considered "hers" but since most people associate that concept with newjeans, it's safe to say that illit's creative director probably got it from newjeans anyways. another thing about hybe tho is that i don't think they've been doing strong concepts for their groups. txt did have a strong one initially but bighit just stopped trying for them (probs bc their team got moved to source music 🥲) i think belift did a good job with keeping the vampire concept for enha consistent and i was initially scared that it would stop after hybe fully acquired cj enm, but i think they've recognized that enha just has too much connected to their vampire concept (their webtoon, storyline for their music videos) but enha's also been neglected by hybe a lot so screw them 🚶‍♂️

i hope this issue doesn't mess with comebacks either :/ it's like suspiciously right before newjeans' comeback, which throws me off because i feel like there's always some shit min heejin's pulling right before or during their comebacks (ex: inserting herself in the OMG music video at the very end) and it's so weird to me how she always talks about them as if she's the sixth member 😭

[beautifulpersonpeach]

Hi, I know you're resting now, I wanted to share my opinion about the album. I noticed that there are five tracks in Face and they are so similar to the 5 stages of acceptance. What do you think about it? Perhaps my question is incoherent, I am writing it through a google translate.

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Ask 2: FACCE IS SAURRR GOOODD!! 😭😭😭 WHEN IS THE REVIEW BPP?

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Ask 3: Which remix is your fav?? I think beans and toast won this won

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Ask 4: Bpp Imma need to go to SK and hold Jm hostage…I need him to make more music…Im going crazy Hes not my bias or my bias wrecker but hes wrecked me…I cant believe that he made my soty my aoty…I just wish the album had more songs…Like crazy is crazy good!!!!

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Ask 5: BPP, hi!

I was hoping JM would show us a bit of his true self in his new album. And did he, huh? That MV and song reeks of homosexuality. I know it's simething ARMYs do not talk about. But... What do you think?

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Ask 6: So did Jimin really end kpop for you BPP? Which song is you’re favourite? ☺️ He’s blown my mind at least. It’s Instant AOTY for me!!!!!! I hope Like Crazy is promoted really harf because I think it has really good potential It’s my favorite in the album ☺️

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Hi Anon(s),

Before we get into it...

...I have a bone to pick with Jimin.

I don’t understand what Jimin thinks he’s doing not putting Letter on Apple Music or Spotify. Like, why does he think that’s a good idea? Does anybody know? This song is so perfect - Jimin's lush vocals harmonizing with Jung Kook's is beautiful - Letter needs to be available on as many platforms as possible. See, these are the kind of choices the tannies make that just causes me to laugh because yeah these hidden songs are 'gifts to fans' but it's also a crime against all that is good and honest in this world to keep it off channels those fans will gladly pay for? The fact Ddaeng is still stuck in Soundcloud purgatory is reason enough to kidnap Bang PD's nephew and sell him to the mafia, far as I'm concerned. The only reasons I haven't done it yet because kidnapping is illegal in my country, the Cosa Nostra require a blood oath, and Jin wouldn't like delays to his game update.

Letter is Promise all grown up, a little wiser and more developed, and I hope in every subsequent album Jimin releases for the rest of his career, that there is a version of Promise, a song that feels like Jimin - comforting, easy, warm, simple, and beautiful. Listening to it I'm so thankful Jimin exists. (Yes Jimin, I'm that fan who is simply happy you're alive - Pixid reference, so for anyone who hasn't watched it yet I've linked it here).

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FACE is a solid 8.1 / 10.

(Are you streaming?)

It's a great thing Jimin has been so forthcoming in talking about the process and his reasons for making the album, the songs on it, as well as how he had key input on the choreography. I strongly suggest everyone watch his live (linked here - I should probably also mention the English subs aren't up yet, just FYI). Jimin has been very clear about what he's communicating in FACE so I won't tarry on it.

My favourite songs in order of least to most:

5) Like Crazy

4) Face Off

3) Letter

2) Alone

1) Set Me Free Pt 2

Something about each song in reverse order with the exception of Letter - for Letter, see mafia case above.

Set Me Free Pt 2

This is the best song on the album.

Alone

There are two reasons why SMF Pt 2 comes out on top over Alone though Alone in many ways is the superior song. (1) The production (including the use of autotune) in SMF Pt 2 is incredible, and (2) because Alone ends on too disturbing a note for me to dwell on, knowing that it has come from Jimin.

Everything about Alone is perfect. The way the song begins with piano, then guitar, and then drums. Jimin’s voice. That man’s voice seriously fucks with my head. It’s the way I feel every time Yoongi twitches his voice when he’s being particularly nasty. Or anytime I hear Joon’s adlibs in a song. Or what happens in my head every time Hoseok slathers his vocal inflections with grit. I don’t know if I’m making sense, but what I mean to say is that Jimin’s voice during the entire song feels like a gift. It draws you in. And then you hear what he’s singing about...

It’s heartbreaking.

I can’t abide the thought that this is something Jimin went through recently, and that I relate in a very personal way. The emotions expressed in Alone feel too raw, too scary, and too real, and while that could point to a worrying state of mind in its author, I think Jimin’s idiosyncratic bluntness and clarity of speech in Alone shows the state of someone who still reflects often, is self-aware and also resilient.

Still, it’s a sad song to hear, an even sadder one to sing, but it is one of the most powerful and beautiful songs I’ve ever heard.

(He's a problem)

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Face Off

I appreciate the vision Jimin had for this song. Starting with the gag of him playing the Flea Waltz in the intro - the song the members have teased Jimin with repeatedly by saying it's the only song Jimin knows how to play on the piano - Jimin used that common (good-natured) taunt and then weaponized it in a song putting those who have crossed him in their place. It's clear by the second verse when Jimin raps that he's pushing himself to express what he means in as many ways as possible. He's challenging himself and sending a message, and that I can respect.

Anon in ask 1 who talked about the album showing the five stages of grief, I agree sort of. If we were to assign a response to each song, I'd say...

Face Off is Anger

Like Crazy - Denial (though bargaining works too)

Alone - Depression

Letter - Acceptance

(PJM2 will be madness)

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Like Crazy

This is my least favourite song on the album because it never really develops, but it's also not supposed to. Jimin has said he wanted to express a dreamlike state in Like Crazy, and he does that impeccably well. The song leans into its 80s groove, heavy padded synths, something reminiscent of if Foster The People and The Weeknd made a song together. The thing about dreamlike states is that they lull your mind, and one easy way to create that effect is repetition and monotony. Think about why someone trying to hypnotize someone else tries to keep their voice steady, calm, and monotone. So, many times listening to Like Crazy I wanted the song to go somewhere, to become fuller or less predictable, but that would kill the trance so it didn't. While it's not my preference, I can appreciate Jimin's commitment to the idea of the song.

It's a great track even then. I sometimes listen to it right after Big Man, Little Dignity by Paramore.

Speaking of Like Crazy, there's been much ado about about Jimin's sexuality, queer-coding, etc in the song and so Anon in ask 5, I see where you're coming from.

Jimin is queer. I don't know what else there is to say about it or why even the mere possibility of Jimin being queer should generate the amount of fuss/discourse it does. It's possible I'm wrong of course, but like you Anon I don't think I saw Jimin even stand straight once during the entire MV. There’s not a single straight thing about this guy.

For the sticklers, perhaps the more diplomatic way of saying it is, 'many of us strongly suspect Jimin is queer.'

(What a stunner)

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Jimin seems very pleased with his first album and this is my favourite thing about the last few weeks. Watching him for the last nine years, it's gratifying to see how he has fully embraced himself, his limitations, his pride, his vices, his virtues... Jimin is a strong tenacious person and in making this album, he turned that intensity inwards, towards learning to love himself. The result is five great tracks, and I'm eager to see what more he will show us in the future.

[eowynstwin]

BRO in the same vein of people making Simon be an unrealistic Instagram prettyboy PEOPLE WONT STOP KPOP-IFYING PHOTOS OF PEDRO PASCAL. Like they smooth out all his fine lines and whitewash him until he looks like a dollop of bread dough. HES ALMOST 50 FOR CHRISTS SAKE HES ALLOWED TO LOOK MATURE AND AGED. LET THAT MAN HAVE WRINKLES OR SO HELP ME 😭

He looked good when he was younger but he looks SO good now, the gray in his hair and beard and his smile lines… why are people obsessed with over-editing older celebrities and beaut-ifying crusty military men 😭 if you want kpop boy and that’s fine but why are you erasing all the appeal from perfectly good older men 😭😭😭

It’s “I want to fuck that old man” until he actually starts looking like an old man 😒

But yeah ageism is a MASSIVE problem on tumblr, especially within the 18-24 age group. I’ve seen people refer to Price as an old man when at max he’s 40 in canon. I’m sorry but 40 is not fucking old.

Simon, meanwhile, is probably mid-30s, and he’s been in active combat for at least a decade now—so he’s going to have aged. A lot. And that’s not even considering the trauma he’s endured which definitely ages you both visibly and invisibly. Even if he is impossibly handsome beneath the mask, he is not going to have the dewy skin of a Hollywood actor with multiple microdermabrasion facials under his belt.

I mean shit, I’m 27 and I already have fine lines on my eyes and mouth, and I don’t even spend that much time outside. Younger fandom just does not understand how soon aging happens. Younger fandom also does not understand how attractive aging is. And it’s a tragedy for them, honestly.

[sirenedeslily]

Yeah I deactivated a while back last November because I was getting hate for an influencer au I had thought of (people HATED the fact that I was using a faceclaim and were lowkey mad I was writing about them possibly dating anyone in LA even though I made it so clear it was a fucking AUUUU)

I was just getting a lot of bad vibes especially when the whole Nessa , Sab, Madi and triplet thing that happend, I just hated how the fandom was talking about the situation. The misogyny that these so called “fangirls” were spewing in order to defend them was actually disgusting. that’s the last I remember of tumblr 2023.

When I came back I was happy to see that a lot of smaller niche account like you, bebabnie, freshlovee, and sweetangelgirl7 where putting out creative stories even if they didn’t get a lot of interactions which I’ll be honest it’s kind of expected when you have super targeted ideas and references in the story that not a ton of people will get

BUT most recently all I’ve been seeing is a lot of people BEGGING for credits for stuff that isn’t necessarily theirs and people complaining about nothing new happening while actively ignoring the smaller accounts that are putting out exactly what they’re preaching is missing.

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no yeah the ‘fangirls’ were absolutely insane and quite frankly still are and now it’s literally just entitled people thinking they came up with everything and then the whining. it’s expected tbh but i think we all just need to ignore it and keep doing what we wanna do like it’s just never that deep. i also don’t understand why anyone would be mad at you for creating an au and i’m so sorry that happened shit is so annoying !!!!! you’re completely right though when i write things like poison in the water or the kpop thing i KNOW that it won’t get more than like a few notes and it doesn’t bother me too much, i was honestly so surprised that my most popular fic was ‘hold me’ bc i literally went crazy on my hyperfixations but then again tumblr people love a streamer matt moment 😭😭 idk it doesn’t really matter to me, i’m just really happy that madi and lio have been getting so much love recently (,:

[cherienymphe]

Yeah when she was with Rob and I mean kpop idols. Sorry but no amount of hate any western female gets for dating a fave compares to the hate female idols get when there's confirmed dating rumors. I don't think it's as bad as it used to be but wheeeeew those were dark times

Yeah I don’t doubt that for a second because I saw that BTS won the iheart radio music award for best fan army so that checks out. Obviously that’s just one fandom for one band and I know you’re referring to all K-pop idols in general and not just them but I feel like that award alone sums up how crazy K-pop stans are. So even when the girl they’re dating is also an idol and not just a “regular” person they get a lot of hate?

In my experience they get more hate. The thing about the idol industry is that they push for parasocial relationships. I say idol in general because jpop is guilty of this too. They push this idea that idols are your friends or boyfriends or girlfriends. They heavily feed into this notion and because of that it was very taboo (and still kind of is) for idols to publicly date. Some companies even had no dating clauses in their contracts with their idols.

So bc of this, it's very common for idols to date in secret and this is why when the partner is a female idol, they get more hate than a regular girl bc 9/10 they're not finding information on this regular girl. It's usually pretty difficult for them to stalk a non idol and get the necessary information on her vs another idol. So it's definitely not from lack of trying or care but a female idol is in the spotlight and usually has public socials and even worse, a public career. So they can and have left hate on music videos and interview videos and refused to buy music and engage with the group shes in and in some extreme cases they have to deal with sasaeng fans which are stalker fans like it gets messy over there.

To convey how serious sasaengs are I remember tae (bts) was on a live once and he was talking about some sasaeng had gotten his number and kept calling him even though he kept blocking and deleting. It was happening as he was on live and he was so casual about it bc it's so normal. Those kinds of fans aren't as bad as they used to be but there was definitely an incident in the 2000s with a 2nd Gen group who for the life of me I can't remember but I believe a sasaeng sent one of the members her bloody underwear or something and there was drama not that long ago with a jpop group where a girl tried to ask an idol out and he rejected her so she got work done and afterwards was able to weasel her way into the group through a friend who was hooking up with one and she started messing with two members of the group including the one who rejected her who was now unable to recognize her bc of her plastic surgery (all of these things are confirmed guys and not just rumors I promise😭)

[youremyheaven]

Dear non 🍑 eater anon.

No one asked. Your tone isn't giving the kindness and love a feminist should have (& do have) for women enjoying themselves when repression is the norm in many societies still. She'll handle her chakras and followers as she sees fit. You go have a wonderful aligned life. She and us will be fine. Thank you & Bye~

Also pookie what sorta crowd attracts when the label is used, wanna know your experience as someone on tumblr with a thriving blog (idk if you'd call your blog women and the feminine oriented, I would) and moots. You know now a days people use the word like they are spitting galiya, so I avoid the topic and also try not to bring up anything that seems feminist-aligned (which is most things around me it seems. Like: Oh, you think men are given leeway for eve-teasing because of the attitude ‘men just be like that’ and reflects a flaw in society? Yah okay feminazi manhating jobstealing alimonytaking whore who doesn't take responsibility!)

AJJAJSJS u tell em!!!!

Yeah I hate how "feminist" has basically become a cuss word in India 😭

On my old blog (it was a kpop tarot blog 😮‍💨😮‍💨) I got into several arguments simply bc I said I don't think it's right to ask if an idol's FS is a virgin when they meet 💀🙄 bc it was kinda sexist??? Like not all people in Asia are waiting for marriage and the odds of a kpop idol marrying a virgin who has never been touched is so 🙂���� and the anons popped off and said it's bc I'm a "feminist" that I respect a "ran through woman with a high body count" over someone who's "pure" 💀💀💀💀 and lots of other arguments too about random shit 😤😤 simply bc I had mentioned I was a feminist.

Funny thing is, back then I felt like all those anons were definitely Indian 😭😭😭😭from the way they text or reference things 😤😤 and the deep rooted misogyny that Indians, esp Indian women have is 🤮🤮🤮🤮

Everybody's a feminist so long as the woman's making choices that align with their values and principles. The minute a woman does what she wants to do (which is what feminism should be) she's suddenly not worthy of equality or respect 😞

If only we subjected men to the same standards that we subject women too 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

Like why do we only encourage and support women who are fighting battles and trying to climb the economic ladder or whatever 😔 where's the harm in a woman having fun 🥹 life is long, not every day is going to be about conventional feminist struggles, because life isn't a struggle??? it's okay to enjoy yourself and it's okay to not feel shame for it 🫶

I don't use the word feminist as much anymore simply because it has kinda lost all meaning to me rn. I went to a veryyy political college where absolutely everybody man and woman called themselves a feminist and yet treated other women horribly for making certain choices that didn't align with them or slut shaming them at the drop of a hat as a comeback rhetoric 🙄🙄🙄

Actions matter more than words. If you can be a respectful, tolerant, kind human being, that's more important that name dropping labels to fit into some woke liberal agenda ESP since identifying as one clearly makes absolutely no difference in how u actually treat women 🤐🤐🤐

[aettuddae]

hmmm ngl ive only been into kpop for like a year and me getting into it was kinda an accident(?) 😭 one of my closest friends that i met last year said she liked it and i rlly wanted to be her friend so i said she can show me some songs!

i only ult like one group (aespa) because more than one is so overwhelming to me! but i REALLY like red velvet, exo, nct (dont really listen to dream tho), and snsd

some groups i occasionally listen to is like ive, shinee, blackpink (dont know if u can tell but i really like more of the wacky weird(?) music 🤥)

i also had a BIG newjeans & loona phase when i was first getting into kpop! yeah funny enough what got me into kpop was newjeans and 2 baddies by nct 💀 and then i kinda jumped around from group to group until i discovered aespa

also i was thinking like this new group has ten, xiaojun, AND lilly in one group like i know they be singing DOWNNN in there songs and since they have a neo vibe i would probably would stan them too if they were real!

how about ur biases? do u have any in groups u dont rlly care about cause i lowkey do 😭😭

hmm…chuu can do it reference? 🤔🤔

-🕷️

of course, getting into something because of someone else can happen 😅 but you stayed ! it's a weird, but fascinating world idk

yeah, it can be really hard to stan multiple groups, i think i do it as a mechanism to shut the voices (kidding, i just have a lot of love to give 😔), but i imagine it's more carefree (? to only stan one, it's all about having fun, at the end of the day. but also, anon, YOU HAVE TASTE 💋 we basically listen to the same groups

i got you so fucking bad in this take, because i also like the "weird" sounding music. no shade AT ALL, but if i want tik tok jingles i can listen to western artists, the cool thing of kpop are the particular sounds and concepts !!

the difference between newjeans and 2 baddies by nct what the hell were you on back then

i thought about it so much, when picking the positions for the group, since i wanted kyuin to be the main vocal i was like "this is a group full of main vocals how is she supposed to be even better?" 😭 there's also like three main dancers.. crazy. from what you tell me, i too imagine you would quite like them if they existed

yeah i have biases in groups i don't care about, but it's very sporadic.. i would say gyuvin and matthew from zb1 and minji from newjeans.

for my ult biases, karina (no shit i didn't imagine), taeyeon, sehun and yoohyeon from dc. also, kazuha (no surprise). fun fact, minjeong is kinda my bias of aespa too.

what about yours?

[earlysunshines]

NOO im not a man im sorry that came off rude 😞 where im at, every time i see lesbians they’re playing soccer 💔 like when i was in hs half the soccer team was just lesbians that’s all 😭🙏 IM SORRY 🙏🙏 and also my friends who like kpop alwyas like those two groups and they’re women lovers 🥲 IM SORRY AGAIN🙏

NOOO ITS SO CHILL I DWEARRR i just read tone wrong LMFAOAOOO u sounded like one of my guy friends that’s all

LUCKY YOUUUUUUU the only lesbian i knew that played soccer was my ex and my friends friend idk

i was in like ??1?2 varsity j guess that’s the name for a bit then dropped it bc i hated the team and was lowk dog shit LMAOO

no yeah all my friends that like kpop r also gay and like the same groups as me we makentoooonmany niche gg references it’s so fun i love gay ppl

ITS OMAY BABE🫰🫰🫰i jsut cant read

[cryiling]

No no no, kpop revalink angst let’s hear it 🧍‍♀️

(in reference to this post)

OUH GIRL NO DONT MAKE ME THINK ABT SAD THINGS *pulls out my notes of angst ideas*

thinking about revalink angst in terms of them being in the same group is actually killing my soul so let's come up with a different angsty au together 🤞

ok idea number one revalink as hyuna and dawn

honestly I don't know much about hyuna and dawn LMAO so we're gonna make something up. they're in the same label and they get put on a collab stage together or something, and the chemistry they have is so ��� they start talking more and eventually get together yay! but then drama happens and they leave the company to go to a different one, they get engaged and they're so happy but then one day link posts on his Instagram that they broke up?? and everyone is heartbroken and actually revali sees this and is like wtf is link breaking up with me over an Instagram post??? he couldn't be bothered to tell me to my face? because actually they had not broken up! turns out link's Instagram got hacked and he had no idea, but this causes so much miscommunication between them and yeah but they eventually sort it out and then get married yay! 😊

IDEA NUMBER TWO they're from different labels and their managers decide to make them fake-date to increase both of their publicities

hey guys so actually I love fake dating aus 🫶 omgeeee practicing holding hands and kissing to make it believable and then they get all flustered with each other.. great ideas yes yes, plus so much potential for angst + miscommunication when they think it's not mutual pining

so at first it goes great, their fans eat it up and they do end up getting more popular as two of the first openly queer idols in the industry. but then dispatch comes out with a cheating scandal bc like,, link hugged mipha or something AJDBAJDN so yeah. idk my ideas are not very creative lmao 😭

THREE they were together but the fans bullied them so hard they broke up, and now all they do is write sad love songs abt each other

idk what more to say. angsty love songs. yup. CONSIDER: the truth untold, she's in the rain, and 0x1=lovesong noraiir im crying rn and this is all your fault

hey guys wtungsten also recommended don't wanna cry pls go blame them for my tears LIKE???? just go look at the lyrics good bye

[bisexualhobi]

have u seen whats been going down between armys and nctzens lately? apparently 127 was in latin america and a waitress confused them as bts and they corrected her so she brought them drinks. of course armys r ignoring the blatant racism of it all and twisting the situation, saying this proves bts paved the way and also accusing 127 of identity theft and using bts' name to get free stuff.

yeah lmao i saw the whole thing go down 😭 it's insane like i knew armys were bored now that bts are gone but they were really going at it on twitter. ofc that was a racist encounter that sadly nct and most kpop groups have to go through and i think it was really taken out of context and blown out of proportion cause the translation going around wasn't accurate

however i think nct 127 fucked up by even saying bts out loud on their livestream and i can't fathom a reason why they would even bring that up. like not to be like that but they know damn well how deranged bts stans are - that's why taeyong referred to them as "that group" instead right after taeil or yuta i can't remember who said "bts?" and laughed about it. like that's media training 101. they really should know better like this is why groups like monsta x completely refuse to engage with any references to bts in public.

[papirouge]

akari takeuchi is so beautiful, like she has this round face and sometimes has the appearance of being a lil chubby yet she's really popular among her groupmates. I love how she looks with very short hair too.

japanese people in general seem to be pretty fixated on thinness. in remember when morning mmusume got popular and people talked about kago ai and tsuji nozomi and they refered to tsuji as "the chubby one", even though she was only slightly bigger than kago.

i dont know if you ever keep up with momusu or if you ever cared about it, but once they had this member who was actually overweight (susuki kanon), and she was constantly mocked by fans, the public, and apparently teased by management and team members. obviously she did not pass the audition when she was overweight; she mentioned later that she went through an extreme diet to appear skinny at the audtions, but that she'd been chubby all her life.

but i think koreans are even more extreme with their beauty standards. like, you can see korean idols tend to be skinnier than jpop ones, i think the girls even lose their periods or have very irregular ones. i remember when kpop started gettinf global recognition, sometimes kpoppers would post on certain j-artists youtube videos just to compare them to korean ones, and I remember checking the comments in this perfume video and kpoppers were literally saying they had fat legs. like the girls from perfume (and not, it was not when achan was a lil chubby in their early years)

Anon I do "care" about those things bc I've been a jpop head for a longer time that I will ever admit 😭

Akari has always been a favorite of my mine 🩵 And yeah her face is sooo cute!! She definitely stood out because she was chubbier but imo that's a good thing bc idol are sooo interchangeable. Unless your very pretty or very talented (dance, singing) being a bit different can be an asset if well played.

Imo I think thame difference with Kanon is that Akari seemed confident and it gave her the charisma and appeal that fan like. Kanon was maybe too young and insecure and fans caught it and it made them uninterested and disrespectful for her performance...

And yeah, Japan is obsessed with skinniness, water is wet lol

I've always be intrigued by the fetishistic way of considering beauty. For example they will hyperfixate on features that a supposed "attractive" such as a small face, high nose brige, big eyes, etc and literally dismiss every thing else to the point it's getting ridiculous at times. Someone would be pretty but because they have a very small face they'll be elevated as an absolute staple of beauty.

I lurk a lot on girlchannel and every 2-3 days there are threads dedicated to rave on beautiful people... I remember one thread dedicated to rave on Erika Toda arms skinniness when she played Misa Amane in the Death Note movie 😭

This fetishization of beauty that's also why they will get plastic surgery to get features they consider objectively pretty without considering the harmony with the rest of the face, such as a high nose brige but since the rest of their face will remain unchanged the balance of their full face is so weird. East Asian tend to have a large face so I think them ps'ing their nose to be as small as possible makes them look so weird and uncanny 🥴

Kpoppers are mentally ill so I'm not surprised they don't have any idea what a normal human being looks like.

Perfume gals have perfect legs - they literally made the whole 'VOICE' single cover out of it 💀

It's not really that Achan is "chubby" it's that she has wide hips which is considered unattractive in Japan. That's why in their outfits coding, she's the one to wear clothing who are ample/lose in that area, while Nocchi is the 'boyish' one (short hair + pants/shorts) and Kashiyuka is the one wearing the shorter & more skimpy outfit version. Here's another example for their JPN album visuals

Arguing that these women would be in any way fat is insane. That's how I know kpop fans have brainrot.

Whenever I stumble on kpop MV gif my eyes itch at the amount of filters used... Kpop idols are routinely abused and mistreated but these idiots will keep stanning. I've always found ironic how people have no problem acknowledging that what we consume has political consequences and won't shut up about H&M and Shein mistreatment of their employees + their business model damaging effects on their environment but will keep lining the pockets of Kpop artists agencies doing the same 💀

Both Japan and Korean are fucked up with their Beauty standards but Japan still has the kawaii card that allows someone to still be considered appealing despite not being conventionally attractive. I think Ai Kago and Tsuji Nozomi totally belong in that category. That being said, kawaiiness can also be artificial considering that Nozomi did plastic surgery on her eyes to make them look twice bigger + obsessive use of light color lenses (look at the pics of her marriage before she got the procedure💀). Kyary is also infamous for revamping her face (namidabukuro + eyelid lift)

And let's no forget Tsubasa Masuwaka who's jumped on the kawaii bandwagon after the end of the heisei/gyaru era and has been doctoring like mad her pics ever since...

[fourleafclovxr]

kai im so sorry i unfollowed you looking for the ask button 😭😭 it's ren (finalgirlagatha castorfordean etc etc) anyways i loved these asks and am dying to ask you 1, 11, 26, and 29 for between the sinner and the saints (which STILL haunts me to this day)?

ren omg hi!! confession i completely forgot what between the sinners and the saints even Was... i only remembered the title rip

going to answer mostly for sge! but tbh i have nothing much to say i don't remember most of my sge fics at ALL

1. What fic of yours would you recommend to someone who had never read any of your work? (In other words, what do you think is the best introduction to your fics?)

i like the (mis)adventures series! it's not what i usually write for sge, it's just high school chatfic, but it's Funny, and i like the very vague plotline and the kpop references. it's basically the only work i think i might continue for this fandom, honestly. (also: august sader <3)

11. Are you partial to a certain character/pairing or are you more equal-opportunity? If you are partial to any character/pairing, why do you think that is?

oh this one is pretty obvious. i'm incredibly partial to the trio of actually plot relevant professors: august sader, professor dovey & lady lesso! and also optionally dovesso.

26. Would you rather write a fic that had no dialogue or one that was only dialogue?

i'd go with no dialogue... whenever i write dialogue i end up going off track :] i can fit so many metaphors into a fic with no dialogue.

29. What songs would be (or are) on a playlist for [insert fic]? Explain your choices if you want!

i forgot i wrote between the sinners and the saints. the 5 kinds of love... i'll do my best ^-^

better days by superm because of that sense of getting better, doing better, i guess?

levanter by stray kids for rafal (get his ass).

f*ck my life by seventeen because yeah... determination to find yourself & be happy for yourself. also sophie deserves to say "fuck my life"

i'm so tired by lauv & troye sivan because sophie DESERVES to get tired of love. (this is this fic's anthem actually)

thanks for the ask!!