#the idea of Reeve who has been spying on the gang but has come to really care about them despite his hesitance and misgivings

[sarellathesphinx]

Hey did you guys know Reeve is the one who had to tell Elmyra and Marlene that Aerith died in the original game. I think about this constantly

[steadfastspirits-a]

𝐏𝐄𝐎𝐏𝐋𝐄  𝐈'𝐃  𝐋𝐈𝐊𝐄  𝐓𝐎  𝐆𝐄𝐓  𝐓𝐎  𝐊𝐍𝐎𝐖  𝐁𝐄𝐓𝐓𝐄𝐑

1.    𝐀𝐋𝐈𝐀𝐒  /  𝐍𝐀𝐌𝐄:  Reeves

2.    𝐁𝐈𝐑𝐓𝐇𝐃𝐀𝐘:  March 11th

3.    𝐙𝐎𝐃𝐈𝐀𝐂  𝐒𝐈𝐆𝐍:  Pisces

4.    𝐇𝐄𝐈𝐆𝐇𝐓:  5′0″ / 154.3cm

5.    𝐇𝐎𝐁𝐁𝐈𝐄𝐒:  cross stitching, video games, drawing (blobby cats, mostly), watching animal documentaries, entomology, stargazing, reading, walking/hiking (slow and low stamina but i still enjoy it!)

6.    𝐅𝐀𝐕𝐎𝐑𝐈𝐓𝐄  𝐂𝐎𝐋𝐎𝐑:  lilac purple

7.    𝐅𝐀𝐕𝐎𝐑𝐈𝐓𝐄  𝐁𝐎𝐎𝐊:  the crossover by alexander kwame still has a special place in my heart - it’s what introduced me to verse novels

8.    𝐋𝐀𝐒𝐓  𝐒𝐎𝐍𝐆:  ship in a bottle by fin

9.    𝐋𝐀𝐒𝐓  𝐌𝐎𝐕𝐈𝐄  /  𝐒𝐇𝐎𝐖:  Mob Psycho 100

10.  𝐑𝐄𝐂𝐄𝐍𝐓  𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐃:  Spy x Family

11.  𝐈𝐍𝐒𝐏𝐈𝐑𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍:  rereading through full threads, writing out canon dialogue for character studying (pre-picking up muse, usually), listening to songs i associate with the characters (albedo / jean / kokomi / itto still pending........ i havent found anything that’s enough of a mix between cool, rock, and UTTER, BALLS TO THE WALLS DORK, which makes him the hardest muse for me to write currently) 

12.  𝐒𝐓𝐎𝐑𝐘  𝐁𝐄𝐇𝐈𝐍𝐃  𝐘𝐎𝐔𝐑  𝐔𝐑𝐋:  my friend, choko, over at @minstrxll​ recommended crafting a url based on things that all my muses had in common. that’s a bit of a tall task, but I tend to be drawn into characters that are extremely devoted, or steadfast in their principles. Albedo is devoted entirely to uncovering the truth of the world and cares deeply for those he does pay attention to, Jean is ungodly devoted to Mondstadt to her own detriment, and Kokomi is the same way with Watatsumi, and Itto is loyal as can be, and devoted to his gang and following his own path.

13.  𝐅𝐔𝐍  𝐅𝐀𝐂𝐓:  when someone replies and it’s time for me to draft it so that i can reply to it later, i almost always write up whatever ideas or thoughts or feelings come to me so that i can use them

this can lead to odd results, which i’ll showcase under a readmore after the tagged and tagging section

sadly i don’t save old jokes and thoughts after a draft has been replied to, but if you’re ever curious about how i’ve drafted a current thread we have, i dont mind sharing them. i don’t always perfectly follow the idea i had on first thought to the letter, but its fun to do

tagged: @melipetals - thank you so much!! I’m excited to see how your multi grows and to see more from your Lumine! tagging: anyone who wants to, but let’s get specific, too! @astrolisms / @stcllariis / @hydroidol / @mxmoria / @piercingdark / @cruentusflore​

[thecxmmissioner]

🙋 + reeve's feelings on betraying avalanche / cloud & co.

Oh my goodness Reeve’s feelings on AVALANCHE, ShinRa, and betrayal of both parties could fill a novel itself. I’ll try to be succinct here ( haha yeah right ) and maybe I’ll write a full headcanon post on this later.

Firstly, Reeve has very negative feelings about AVALANCHE until he really gets to know the current party. That’s not to say that he doesn’t have negative feelings about ShinRa as well by the time the game starts, but he definitely sees ShinRa as a necessary evil and AVALANCHE as a self-righteous evil. They are terrorists. They’ve been attacking his mako reactors for years, mostly outside of Midgar, and those are structures that Reeve built, oversees, and partially staffs. AVALANCHE sees the “good” they’re doing for the environment, but Reeve sees the casualties of people who work for him, some of whom he knows ( because tbh he wouldn’t be too personally cozy with the personnel that far down the ladder, but they are going to work every day to do a job for him and he feels that ). It’s a personal hit, to him.

( Bonus: @kunselxknows sent me this random ask the other day in which someone shoots at Reeve while touring a construction site and I made it specifically a tour of the reactor in Corel and oh my god I’m so close to making this actual permanent blog headcanon because yes. @tragicxscarlet and I have already headcanoned 50 subsequent things resulting from this incident. So if you assume that’s AVALANCHE-related as well, now they’re personally targeting him. )

Secondly, the hit on Mako Reactor No. 1 in Midgar is an even more personal hit to him, firstly because it’s the first hit on a mako reactor in Midgar ( which is way more protected than the ones out in the more rural areas ) and, because he lives in Sector 8, it was also close to his home. If he lived any closer to Sector 1, it could have killed him, as Reactor No. 1 borders Sector 8. He most definitely knew some of the victims of this attack, not even just professionally as in the case of reactor maintenance people, but personally from around his home neighborhood. It literally hits closer to home. ( And then Barret brushes this off as “a few” casualties that have to be expected, while being unaware he’s talking about some people that Reeve personally knew… )

Thirdly, there’s the hit on Reactor No. 5, which was even larger than the hit on Reactor No. 1, and his parents live in Sector 5. As you can imagine, Reeve’s feeling pretty hostile toward AVALANCHE at this point.

When President Shinra decides that the solution is to destroy all of Sector 7 and Reeve protests, it’s out of no concern for AVALANCHE ( whom Reeve would happily see executed at that point ), but the thousands of innocents who would be involved. I mean, we’re talking about one eighth of Midgar’s population, which I headcanon to be around 2 million total ( so around 250,000 casualties! possibly more if Sector 7 is one of the more developed and densely populated sectors ), both slums and plate. And there’s a lot of ShinRa company housing on the Sector 7 plate, who aren’t even being warned. It’s crazy. President Shinra is crazy. And Reeve is powerless to stop him, because all he has is reasoning and negotiation and he’s outvoted in the boardroom.

Shinra orders Reeve to take a few days off, and Reeve spends that time thinking about how he can undermine him on his own. He has the idea to use Cait Sith to infiltrate AVALANCHE and spends that time off working on the model, but it isn’t until the Turks catch wind of him building a stronger model ( which Tseng already learned about in BC, when Reeve used the prototype to help them ) that they come up with the exact plan for Reeve to operate as a spy and feed information to the Turks. That wasn’t what Reeve’s original plan was. He didn’t want to be under the oversight of ShinRa on this. He didn’t even fully have a plan. But by then it’s Rufus in charge anyhow and Reeve is willing to give him a chance to be more capable than his father, and the Turks strong-arm him into it regardless. ( How? In Scarlet-verse, at least, I lowkey headcanon they probably caught on to the affair and vaguely threatened her life and/or exposure of that info. But there are a lot of other things they could threaten/blackmail him with too, from his parents’ safety, to any other theoretical ship partners, to framing/exposing him for treason. I kind of like keeping it verse dependent. )

Reeve has serious reservations about the operation, but his reservations are about his effectiveness as a spy, his ability to not get caught, his dislike of reporting to ShinRa, and kidnapping a 4-year-old child. By the time he takes the keystone, I think he feels a niggling of guilt about it because he’s gotten to know Cloud and the gang personally by then, but not that much guilt because he feels like Tseng and Rufus have the stronger plan and AVALANCHE are just rebels who are too self-assured of their own competence with such an important matter as tracking down Sephiroth. He no longer wants them to be killed, however. He likes them, on a personal level. He just heartily disagrees with their willingness to paint themselves on one side of a moral war and ShinRa on the other, and especially the nonchalance toward “acceptable casualties” ( even while believing to have moral superiority! )

After all the madness that happens between the Temple of the Ancients and the beginning of Disc 2, Reeve no longer has Turk oversight on his mission and also there’s a Meteor in the sky about to kill everyone so priorities become a bit shifted. Reeve believes ShinRa’s plans for dealing with Meteor to be slightly harebrained and now has more faith in AVALANCHE’s competence than ShinRa’s, so he feeds information the other way and now betrays ShinRa.

And by the way, the other executives did not know what Reeve was up to with Cait Sith. Perhaps Rufus did not know the exact identity of the mole, either, because he never seems suspicious of, say, AVALANCHE showing up at all the huge materia locations or wary of continuing to discuss such info around Reeve. My headcanons from here kind of split in two, and that’s one version for my ship with Scarlet and one generic version without. Either way she did not know, but the significance of her not knowing differs. In their ship, she would have met Cait Sith and known about Reeve’s Inspire ability by then, but Cait would have gone out of his way to make sure he was never seen by Scarlet. ( When he knocks her out in Junon, even, he’s in disguise. ) Then she and Heidegger start to get suspicious of Reeve, Heidegger’s suggestion plus Reeve’s strange behavior convinces her of Reeve’s guilt, and they throw him in jail. Then Scarlet goes off and gets herself killed, still believing Reeve had betrayed her ( asdfghjkl; ). In the absence of a ship, that all happens as you know it to in canon. Either way, Reeve’s arrest pretty much solidifies Reeve’s betrayal of ShinRa, and after ShinRa collapses and he gets out, he continues to reject the remains of the company and disassociate with them.

That was a little more than you asked for, but that’s pretty much all of Reeve’s feelings on betraying AVALANCHE and betraying ShinRa.

[emeraldspiral]

#cait tells you this if you speak to him in the Highwind. he says Elmyra and Marlene both cried their eyes out#the idea of Reeve who has been spying on the gang but has come to really care about them despite his hesitance and misgivings#watching aerith die#and knowing that with Tseng out of commission and the Turks handling stuff for Rufus. no one is going to think about telling Elmyra.#and he already has her and Marlene under surveillance. and it’s the worst fucking thing in the world but someone has to tell her#ugh. Ough. AUGH.#reeve a guy caught between his ideals and the rock they’ve been ground underneath having to go tell this woman that her daughter is dead.#and he’s so fucking sorry about it.#and there’s nothing anyone can do to fix it#and if Elmyra throws something at him or yells at him it’s no less than he deserves but honestly.#considering aerith could tell when elmyra’s husband died#I think she probably already said goodbye to her mom. and reeve’s news is just confirmation#and that’s somehow even worse

I hope they actually show that scene in the next game. The weirdest thing to me about the original is that you only take 2 party members with you to the Lost Capital and they say their goodbyes to Aerith, but there's no scene afterward where you regroup with the rest of the party and talk about what went down. Then on top of that, Elmyra and Marlene find out about it offscreen from someone they've never met before and the party has never actually met in-person.

Hey did you guys know Reeve is the one who had to tell Elmyra and Marlene that Aerith died in the original game. I think about this constantly