#the flood of mars

[art-of-mtg]

The Flood of Mars (Doctor Who) - Andrey Kuzinskiy

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[cameron-possibly]

His name has been Set. And Seth. And Sithifer. And his one true name forevermore is...

SUTEKH

[dandelionjack]

his waters of mars moment, foreshadowed by a million preceding events, but this time he's not doing it out of hubris or to prove some kind of point, alone and unhinged: he's doing it for love.

all the way back in before the flood ... i'm changing history to save clara.

[causalityparadoxes]

I think Mrs. Flood may be an Osirian. Specifically, Isis / Alozza

If they focus on the Osirian/Egyptian Mythology side of Sutekh, it would make sense: Isis is a goddess that has been associated with a million things. Importantly for this, she is connected to the sky, to rain, and to fate. She was also the sister-wife of Osiris, who himself is associated with cycles of nature. Including, the annual flooding of the Nile.

From there, the name 'Mrs. Flood' tracks! She is both the flood of rain and the wife of its endless cycle. She's also a widow, so of course she would have a married title yet no spouse.

It would make sense to include her specifically, as she is important to the Osiris Myth that Sutekh's history is based on. In it she collects pieces of Osiris that Sutekh/Set scatters after murdering him. After finding them, she resurrects Osiris for long enough to have Horus (or an aspect of him at least). Horus then 'defeats' Set. Which parallels the story in Pyramids of Mars.

Being an Osirian would explain her creepily ominous warning to Cherry. As while she would not be with Sutekh, she would still be a higher being with alien priorities. Her being on earth would also somewhat fit with the dweu. Where Isis waited on earth for Sutekh's awakening. Though not 1-1.

It could also connect back to Ruby, as Isis' has strong connections to motherhood. If Ruby was say, secretly an Osirian, there are options. Especially considering her name's reference to both the Sun and the colour red, like girl is nearly a verbal description of the Eye of Ra. She could be the daughter of Isis herself, maybe a younger aspect of Horus (God of Light but also a god of the Sunday), hidden away as a human. Though that would be a very literal take. Honestly, when it comes to Ruby I'm not sold on anything specific.

Lastly, If they go this direction, I'm guessing the "vital object on a distant planet with no name" that rtd teased, will be related to the Osirians. Since they've already used the Eye of Horus, perhaps the Eye of Ra? It is has been depicted in relation to Isis. It's also often personified as a Goddess so, maybe Ruby herself? A living trap/weapon, idk). Whatever it is though, Mrs. Flood would be instrumental in defeating Sutekh. We'll see.

(Also: disclaimer and apology in advance to both people who actually know about the religions I'm mentioning, and to EU/Faction Paradox fans. For anything I may have got wrong 🙏)

[terapsina]

[elfiwill]

PEACE will guide the PLANET

On January 21th 2025 the six planets Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, Venus and Saturn will be visible alligned in one row in the night sky. At the End of February 2025 after the second full moon of the year, Mercury will join the six. So all seven Plantes will be alligned in one row. Because of the full moon on February 24th not all will be visible with plain eye. Last time such a planetconjunction happend was about 2 million years ago. This was when the first specimens of the genus Homo walked this planet. No Homo Sapiens has ever experienced such an event.

The effects of the planetconjunction will be noticeable on earth. In interaction with the moon, the gravitational effects on Earth increase. Earthquake and flood events are possible.

"And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and great signs shall there be from heaven." (The Gosple according Luke 21,11) May be this sign from the universe will guide all mankind.

Then peace will guide the planet. Maybe all wars will stop then and people will live in harmony for ever and ever. Or some dumb ass will ignite a nuclear war and so all life on Earth will be destroyed and there will be peace upon the ashes.

Prepare for the date. Poenitentiam agere. Repent.

[doctorwhogirlie]

Doctor Who: The Flood

Favourite Episode: The Waters of Mars (Only story)

Home Planet: Possibly Mars

Scary Factor: 9/10

My Personal Rating: Not a 'creature' I appreciated as a kid, but one I actually really love now. You can tell when I love a creature because I'll read their entire wiki page for funsies.

(Please don't take these too seriously, it's just a bit of fun)

[littlehollyleaf]

OK I have questions...

1. It used to be canon that not all Gallifrians regenerate. Only those who graduated from the Academy were granted the ability and they limited it to 12 because of Reasons. That was A Thing, right? I'm not making that up? So I always assumed Susan didn't have the ability... are we just retconing that whole canon now? Did the Timeless Child plot change it? Or is the Doctor just assuming Susan specifically will have inherited his Timeless Child endless regenerating ability?

2. Sutekh was not an Actual God in Classic Who. I just rewatched Pyramids of Mars and everything - there's all that talk about the alien race of Osirans, who were powerful yes and had strong psychic ability, but they were ultimately 'just' aliens. Like... they weren't Toymaker and/or Guardian level beings I thought. They couldn't reshape reality. But... has Sutekh BECOME supernatural now, due to whatever the casting salt nonsense was? Is that the implication? Or are they still just super psychic and have been manipulating people/events that way?

3. Sutekh gives a whole crazy List of All The Gods. This is what the Doctor casually referred to as the Pantheon a few eps back I assume. But, again, this was never A Thing before, right? The beings referenced, or the ones known in DW mythology, were entirely UNCONNECTED aliens/entities up until now, right? Just wanting to check there's not canon (or EU canon?) I'm missing here... because if there are existing stories out there combining Sutekh, the Toymaker and THE MARA, then frankly I.Want.Them. So spill for me fandom if I'm missing out pls!

(4. I'm fucking lazy - who has a full written list of this Pantheon pls? How many more of the names have been tracked back to Classic villains already? Can one of them be Ragnarok? (is that why Fifteen name checked them specifically in The Giggle?!) Fenric? The Daemons? The Time Monster? I mean... if the Mara is in there, there's scope for just slapping ANY Classic monster that is vaguely religious/mythological/philosophical/godlike under this umbrella surely? What about Omega even? WERE ANY OF THEM APPLICABLE TO THE BLACK AND WHITE GUARDIANS PLSPLSPLS I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE TOYMAKER KILLED THEM RTD I REFUSE!)

[mariocki]

Pathfinders to Mars (ABC, 1960 - 1961)

"You know, Henderson, the progress of true science depends not only on the cold, calculating types, but also on the adventurers and dreamers. There's a place for all of us under the sun."

"Yes... as long as we don't get too close to it."

[ren-from-mars]

It's moving time! I'll be moving in a months time, which means I'm hosting a sale! Until the 17th of september, you can get 30% off of any order!

I want to transport as few of the prints as possible as I really don't want them to get damaged at all in the move, so I figured I'd extend the sale to all products!!

Find them here!

[phoebosacerales]

idk if you've seen what happened in Valencia, Spain. It was strongly hit by DANA recently, on October 29, and it was the worst DANA catastrophe out of all Spain history. It's been a real madness, and what angers people the most is the bad management of the government. If they had acted well, many lives would've been saved, because they were preventable deaths. The help the victims got was mostly by other civilians and a huge long story that I wouldn't be able to end if I had to tell it all.

My point is, if you find it interesting and you heard about it you could analyze the astrology behind all these events, 'cause this event definitely is a turning point for spanish people.

Oh, I'm seeing it now. What you're telling me sounds very familiar, the Brazilian state of Rio Grande do Sul went through a similar catastrophe in April this year, when incredible heavy rains and storms flooded rivers, lakes and destroyed entire cities, and all because the government hasn't been doing what's needed to prevent this. It's a very predictable event caused by climate change's aggravation of the effects of El Niño. It was the worst we've seen, 94% of Rio Grande do Sul's cities were affected. To get an idea, Rio Grande do Sul is a big state, like more than half a Spain.

I think I wouldn't be able to give a deep analysis of what's happening in Spain, I don't have the lived experience of the country and not much context. I only dare make analysis for the USA because that's the imperial core and those mfs politics affect the whole world.¹ So, this is just a superficial reading and I think I can compare it to Brazil, because we had the same ascendant and consequently the same house placements on the Aries Ingress chart, and it's interesting to see how the different degrees of the angles change predictions a whole lot. I actually have something on my drafts about other aspects of the climate crisis for Brazil this year, I'm glad you asked this question so I can introduce the topic.

I've been attributing these latest escalations of the climate crisis to Saturn in Pisces. We're to expect this realistically and I believe Saturn in Pisces is fitting, because as the last sign it has a bit of an apocalyptic/endings theme to it and it's been very scary how things are escalating now.² To make this clear, the sky isn't to blame and astrology does not cause any of these issues, it just shows tendencies through symbols. Any prediction heavily depends on context and the context of climate change, of bad urban planning etc is of our own political leaders' making and their inaction.

Madrid and Brasília both have gotten Capricorn rising on the Aries Ingress 2024, and that happens for many places, but the annual ruler for each country differs depending on the strength and condition of the planets that have dignity on the exact degree of the ascendant. If we get a cardinal sign rising, in order to analyze the whole year we need to open up 3 more complementary charts for each of the next seasons. This is how hard mundane astrology is.

Brasília

Here's how things looked for Brasil. The 4th house and the IC are obviously always affected when we get catastrophes like this. The Sun is in the 4th house here, but the IC is in Pisces with Saturn and Venus. We also have to consider that these planets are moving and soon we're going to see Mars get into Pisces too. On the degree where Saturn finds itself there's a fixed star called Alpha Hydrus, (the male Hydra, a water snake), which is a more obscure constellation near the south pole that represents the tail end of the river Eridanus.³

Three weeks after the Aries Ingress, Mars meets Saturn. One of the most important conjunctions to watch for in mundane astrology is the Mars-Saturn one, because they're famous for signaling calamity and disease. And they're a lot more frequent than the Great Conjunctions (Jupiter-Saturn). The chart for their conjunction can be interpreted, but to keep it short, I'm just going to say that the conjunction was in the 6th house and they met at 14°, on top of the fixed star Achernar of the river Eridanus. One of the worst things about the floods was that it meant a lot of spreading of diseases through the water, which happens with Mars-Saturn in water signs.

Full Moon in Scorpio

Soon after the conjunction, the Full Moon in Scorpio came with Mars-Saturn in the 4th house this time, and that's when it happened. Notice how Mars reached the conjunction with the IC of the Aries Ingress, where there's another fixed star very much related to stories involving water: Markab, of the Pegasus constellation, who in the myth used its hooves to create a spring on Mount Helicon. The Full Moon is in fall in the 12th house, ruling the 8th, indicating huge loss.

I also recommend this analysis made by a local astrologer from Rio Grande do Sul where she compares this year to another historical flood in 1941 that had similar configurations, and she takes Uranus and Jupiter into account, because of how in mundane astrology Jupiter (especially Mars-Jupiter) gets associated with storms and rain.

Madrid

Now, in Spain, the Aries Ingress didn't indicate this so strongly, because the IC isn't in Pisces. But still, the Mars-Saturn conjunction still happened and here Mars also rules the 4th house. And then Jupiter is on the IC, with the close aspect to Saturn in Pisces. But because we're on Scorpio season, we should look at the Libra Ingress chart, where Jupiter acts as the ruler for the trimester and it's ruling the 4th. Notice how it has anticia with Mars in fall in the 8th, who rules the IC. And then Saturn actually falls in the 4th house now. This is how the lingering effects of a Mars-Saturn conjunction shows up: whenever aspects are made between them we can prepare to see something. The Mars-Saturn-Venus water grand trine also had something to do with the hurricanes in the gulf of Mexico.

The Full Moon in Aries and the New Moon in Scorpio

The disaster happened after the Full Moon in Aries, which also had Sagittarius rising. When a lunation shows that kind of similarity to the Ingress chart we can count on seeing the most significant events of the season or year. The IC is the same too, but the Moon is there with it. It has extra importance because of the aspect to the ascendant. Full Moons have to do with big events related to the masses. Here it makes a square to Mars in the 8th in mutual reception. Because this happened very near the end of the lunation and it's probably still going on to some degree, you should also see the chart for the New Moon in Scorpio. Here there's similitude with the Aries Ingress and now Mars looks directly at the ascendant degree ruling the lunation.

Those are my simple observations, but I bet there's better local astrologers who can do this with much more skill and lived experience of Spain; because I think that's important, not only to understand the astrology better, but also to give it a heart, and not look at these horrible things from a detached point of view.

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¹ See tag #mundane astrology to check what I've been writing on this. And see my book recomendations for my sources in mundane astrology.

² I've been writing about this aspect of the constellations and symbolism surrounding Pisces and I hope I'll be able to post it soon. It's not just a superficial association.

³ Hydrus is not a very well researched constellation and I wouldn't consider it in higher latitudes, but I've been watching out for it since these events.

[dandelionjack]

time is a body of water innit . some kind of turbulent ocean, always in flux, forever shifting. that's why it must be traversed in a ship (or you risk seasickness – a vortex manipulator is a leaky dinghy?) the current is strong but it is possible to sail again it, theoretically, though not without losses and not without fear.

pond. river. flood.

calm and playful one second and the next there's a storm at sea. oncoming on the horizon

[add1ctedt0you]

They are like that. See. (Do you see the way wn is looking at jc, right?? Or am I insane??)

Anyway, my point is: they are walking like that. Then look at this:

JC IS LOOKING AT WQ.

Nothing. That's what I wanted to say.

[witchofthemidlands]

DOCTOR WHO || The Waters Of Mars

"Thank you. There's the other two. Hold on. Margaret Cain and Andrew Stone." "You want to meet them?" Ed asked; he was already reaching for the mic on a nearby console. "Control to the biodome. Maggie, do you copy?"

[thingsasbarcodes]

Doctor Who 2009x02 - The Waters of Mars

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The Flood are only seen in the episode 'The Waters of Mars' alongside the 10th Doctor.

The Sontarans first showed up in Classic Who, but they have made many appearances in New Who, episodes include: The Sontaran Stratagem / The Poison Sky / The End of Time (part two) / The Pandorica Opens / A Good Man Goes to War / The God Complex / The Time of the Doctor / Face the Raven / The Halloween Apocalypse / War of the Sontarans / Survivors of the Flux / The Vanquishers. They have been seen alongside the 10th, 11th, 12th and 13th Doctor.