#the biggest boon towards most built-in dc/cc units is the ability to get wta-based kills during player phase (see: har/din and bhe/ctor)

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now that we know caineghis’ statline (47|37|23|37|30)I think that it’s safe to say that he’s not going to be nearly as awful as his base kit made him seem to be.

like yeah he’s not going to be super fun to face and I’m not going to pretend that he’s going to be easy to deal with but there are ways to get around his strengths beyond “let him attack you” and “use a range 1 unit”. He has no immediate answer to charged specials (either from your own team support or through charges obtained by dealing with his teammates), combat boosts, debuffs, non-blade bonus damage (wrath, wo dao, giga excalibur, light’s brand, etc.), AoE damage, or eff. against armored weapons and any changes made to his build will create some other hole in his seemingly impenetrable armor through which you can now reach in and tear him apart. It’s a little different in the arena because at high-level play you’re all but required to get kills through bonus units if you want to do well, but outside of that your teams shouldn’t be relying on a single method to get kills in the first place.

this happens every time intsys releases a colorless unit that’s even remotely not mediocre. you couldn’t rock-paper-scissors your way through brave lyn and you couldn’t do it through brave veronica and you couldn’t do it through duma and you won’t be able to do to get through caineghis so it’s, once again, on you to find a strategy that will work.