#the beard and jane relationship was always weird to me because it feels like joke after joke of.. abuse?
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fightingdragonswithwho Ā· 1 year ago
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hate to be a hater on the main ā€¦ but this season of ted lasso excels (once again) at team dynamic and the found family elements and i think the finale absolutely nailed that, i cried, i laughed, it was perfect on that. now as for the individual stories and relationshipsā€¦ yeah, letā€™s leave it at that
#(rant below ignore me)#i think making longer episodes allowed them to add stories that felt so pointless to me#what was the point of zava? to make jamie understand something about himself? could have done that better with just the roy plot#i would have understood roy and keeley breaking up of it was like ā€˜letā€™s both grow as individualsā€™#and roy kinda did but apparently not enough because his plot at the end is how he do better so i guess he didnā€™t#jamie had the best development only to then lose part of it by throwing the random video comment?? like why??#keeley my love ā€¦ from the random friend that added nothing to the story to an undervelopped love interest plot line ā€¦ they did u so dirty#why the hell was ted so emotionally off this last episode instead of actually talking the time to proper end things with london and everyone#rebecca was SOBBING and ted was like ā€˜well gotta goā€™ ??#itā€™s not about the ship or anything but what ?? and rebecca ā€¦ love that she stayed with the club#but to have her end up with some random creepy man she met once and whose name WE DONT EVEN KNOW#i have no issues with ted going home to his son. it makes perfect sense. but it felt so weird#the nate plot was wrapped kinda poorly too??#sam colin and most of the guys from the team were amazing#and the found family and team dynamic was still amazing as always#the beard and jane relationship was always weird to me because it feels like joke after joke of.. abuse?#do they get married or was it a dream?? and if so was the whole sequence a dream? and if it wasnā€™t WHO DID THE CGI FOR THE WEDDING šŸ’€#we spent more time with these characters this season and it doesnā€™t feel that way and idk this season felt weird at so many points#I LOVE THIS SHOW I DO!! first 2 seasons are one of my all time favourite seasons of a sitcom!! and i still enjoyed a lot about s3 <33#anyway sorry to be a hater on the main but it was just a weird season to end it on#anti ted lasso#<- i really donā€™t wanna upset anyone i just felt like ranting a little šŸ’€ pls donā€™t hate me#ted lasso spoilers
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sombruhmoment Ā· 4 years ago
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the correctĀ ā€˜hottest characterā€™ tier list
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not actually please dont yell at me
E: Unavailable for ranking
Hammond + Winston; Animals
Bastion + Orisa + Echo; Naive,Ā ā€˜childlikeā€™ robots that just are not attractive.
D: Hot only to very specific people
Widow; My issue with Widow is sheā€™s basic. Iā€™ve seen this dozens of times. Her hotness is artificial - everything about her to shove in your face her hotness, and unless youā€™re a very meek lesbian or a weird creepy dude, she just isnā€™t that hot. Sheā€™s a gimmick. If she was more professional and less for show, sheā€™d be higher.
Tracer; Yorkshire terrier. Sheā€™d be a great s/o and friend, but sheā€™s not exactly hot. Sheā€™s plain jane. Only especially hot to very Jane Austen lesbians and again, weird creepy dudes.Ā 
Mercy; Boring. She doesnā€™t really have much personality in the media she shows up in beyondĀ ā€˜angelā€™ andĀ ā€˜tiredā€™. The latter is the smallest portion of her character, but the most embraced. This is why sheā€™s only hot in the fan portrayals of her in fic or art. Sheā€™s too plain and basic to be more than conventionally attractive.
Junkrat; He just ainā€™t, dude. Unless heā€™s your type, he isnā€™t hot. His personality doesnā€™t lend to his sex appeal, either. Very specific taste needed.
Mei; Only if youā€™re a butch lesbian or an even weirder dude. Very plain, but the body shape rep is nice. Her personality is probably only attractive if youā€™re into the same interests as her, or are familiar with your interests being shut down. This relationship will be a lot of gushing about fun science facts and god dang, you go you funky butch lesbians. Still not hot.Ā 
C: Boring + bad idea
Brig; She has a hotness factor from the muscles. She still is not hot because she is so plain. She is white bread incarnate. Her personality of sweet,Ā ā€˜girl-next-doorā€™ is appealing for a relationship, but she just isnā€™t that hot aside from her buffness.Ā 
Sigma; Heā€™s often cited as one of the hotter guys, but is he, or do you just like the idea of cosmic horror? Is he hot, or do you want to be a monsterf*cker without actually commiting? Heā€™s a traumatized Grandpa. Heā€™s like an old, white man Mei. Iā€™d go to the park with him and feed ducks. I would not canoodle.
Ashe; Like Widow, but more professional. Sheā€™s still boring, but at least the outfit makes her have some intrigue. Her story has the potential to make her more interesting, but letā€™s be real, she was only made as an attempt to stop the McHanzo shippers.Ā 
D.va; Sheā€™s fine. Sheā€™s just a young adult. Nothing much to say. Blizzard really wants you to think sheā€™s hot, though.
Hanzo; Look. This man, no matter when you approach him, is in a crisis. Before meeting Genji, heā€™s stuck in the past. After, heā€™s gone full white girl reinvention. I wouldnā€™t be surprised if your hookup was a rebound. If you canoodle him, there will be strings attached. He will call you afterwards and ask if you happened to find one of his nipple piercings in your sheets. Youā€™ll get text messages asking if you want to smoke a joint. He has no skill in this. Until he goes to therapy, wide berth. Heā€™s hot, but the consequences and implications outweigh the good time.Ā 
B: A lil spice toĀ ā€˜em
Torb; The personality is there. Heā€™s a dilf. Heā€™s a serious, but not without humor, haunted man who loves his family dearly. He gets made into a joke, but guys, this man would be a fan favorite if he wasnā€™t short.Ā 
Ana; Sheā€™s adopted the Grannie personality, which knocks her down a bit, but Ana is hot even as an older woman. Not my cupĀ ā€˜a joe, but she oozes sarcasm and confidence. Also, strikes fear into the rich and corrupt? Hot.Ā 
Genji; Heā€™s Hanzo, but after therapy. Heā€™s got his ish together. Heā€™ll treat you right. Itā€™ll be the best relationship youā€™ve ever had because heā€™s so good at communication. But this isnā€™t about relationships. Heā€™s hot because heā€™s vanilla. Heā€™s a simple guy - and lets face it, a bottom. One of the plainer options, but still has some appeal to him with his maturity.
Zarya; Buff woman. Hot. Her personality isnā€™t for everyone, and her racism is...ugh...but cā€™mon. Look at her biceps. Look at them.
Moira; Will experiment on you in more ways than you expect. Androgynous, David Bowie. Not for the faint of heart. Youā€™re definitely a lesbian or a femboy. Hot for her evilness. Not so hot for her nails. Not a good idea. Be careful.
Reinhardt; Big grandpa man. A gentle soul. Very loud. Heā€™s hot for his confidence and voice. But, again, sooner feed ducks with him than anything else.
A: Hot
Sombra; Evil, intelligent, mischievous woman who is always one step ahead? Hot.
Doomfist; You are lying to yourself if you think he isnā€™t attractive. Jerk? No question. But listen to his voice. Heā€™s classy, humorous, and very nicely muscled. Do not pursue a relationship under any circumstance, but look all youā€™d like.Ā 
Zen; Like Genji, but hotter because of the inherent controversy of canoodling a monk.Ā 
Soldier; Raspy voice, nice bone structure, haunted past, beefy but not too beefy. Kinda basic, but still appealing.Ā 
Roadhog; Voice. Voice. Voice. This man is hot. You are a coward. Dad bod x 10.Ā 
Lucio; Anarchist, fights corps, very kind and sweet. Lean muscle and fierce. Gentle and plays with kids. Cutie.
S: Hottest
Baptiste; Beefy, has some cake, romantic flirt, will take C A R E of you and make you breakfast. Look at him. Haunted past, muscles, nice voice, you KNOW he takes care of his nails and hygiene. Not just a good night, marry this man. Someone else will if you donā€™t. Hottest character in Overwatch.
McCree; Voice, dad bod, tanned, probably smells like smoke and sand. Heā€™s a sweetie, but has some edge to him. A nice middle ground between Hot Evil and Hot Cute. Beard is definitely scratchy.Ā 
Pharah;Ā Buff woman with a nice voice, cute sense of humor, and sense of loyalty and responsibility? Like a female Baptiste. Go get the ring. Now.Ā 
Reaper;Ā Haunted past, claws, monster/inhuman, and that voice. Donā€™t pursue relationship. Casual meetups? Sure. Do not catch feelings, this isnā€™t a Wattpad story and you are not y/n, you will not change him.
Symmetra;Ā Sheā€™s kinda confused but she has a good heart, good voice, and very nice legs. Sheā€™s dripping charisma and confidence, look at her. You are below her and that is quite an enjoyable experience. Would be a decent s/o, would have a lot to learn but sheā€™d try her best.Ā 
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sgt-paul Ā· 5 years ago
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Why in the tags of the anon about Paul and Janeā€™s relationship (which I agree with) do you then say in your tags the ā€œuwu depression beardā€ is similarly misinterpreted? Paul himself said one of the reason he grew the beard was as a result of the insecurity and hopelessness he felt, stating he felt on the brink of a break down; drinking constantly and wanting to stay in bed. I can see that you want distance yourself from certain interpretations, but why deny that Paul suffered from depression?
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(first of all, iā€™m sorry that it took me literally like a month to answer these!!i hope the two of you will see this post!)
i 100% want to distance myself from certain interpretations but i genuinely donā€™t know where did you get denial from that tag :D i probably should have used quotation marks better and i understand that i could have also elaborated on it, but i didnā€™t feel like flooding my tags with a needless rant + i didnā€™t expect anyone to actually read my tags properly and/or interpret them something like this.Ā 
iā€™m aware of what he has said about this period, and i am far from being in denial about accepting that, and what he went through. i definitely think his post-break up period, his retreat to his farm, his tumultuous feelings, his depression and drinking problems etc have to be talked about, because i obviously think this was an extremely interesting, important and formative era of his life and i really value that he has openly (as openly as he could) talked about it multiple times.
(although i also think that his emphasis on it sometimes can come from the fact that in so many ways he was painted as the person who broke the band up. he was accused of being a soulless JR basically, essentially delivering the message that all he could care about was fame, money and success, and that the band has meant nothing to him. this could easily contribute to him wanting to correct the picture and he does this by stressing how emotional he felt during this period and that the band was important to him etc. it doesnā€™t take anything away from his feelings of course. just you knowā€¦ context)
butā€¦ i still think that this period - which probably lasted a few months(?) in late 1969 and then some in mid 1970(?) (not to lower its significance) - gets so often confused with the previous and following years, and some people extend his depression to the get back sessions, or even to late 68 when the beard first appeared, and all the way to mid-71 until he ultimately shaved it off, which is quite misleading. we end up with paul being full on depressed for about 3 years, and that would be far from the truth. like, the era he was talking about, the one he had actually described as his worst, did not start until late 69, after the wrap up of abbey road. for instance, at the end of december he had already started working on mccartney (according to paul the album he had enjoyed recording the most), the sessions of which lasted ~4 months, so his description of the depressed phase canā€™t truly apply to this period either. or to photos from portugal 68, the get back sessions, the ram sessions etc.
another thing thatā€™s sort of misleading, is that in some circles this ā€œmoping and piningā€ is getting traced back to only john (with the questionable popular theory that john ā€œdumpedā€ him) while all other contributing factors are ignored, (the shit at apple with klein, whom he had nightmares about, and the business problems he had had enough of; falling out with his best friends; his general love for the band and the concept of a band; his love and need for working and creating and the sudden loss of his workspace and therefore the feeling of uselessness which was especially hard on himā€¦ his general frustration anger and hurt in connection with the whole situation; growing up; being a solo act etc) which also helps to create an extremely inaccurate picture.
the emphasis was on theĀ ā€œuwuā€ part though lol, which was meant to imply that some people are basically obsessed with the idea of paul being depressed and sad, to a degree which i find ridiculous, and that some are aggressively clinging to paulā€™s depression because itā€™s another m*lennon proof for them. i really donā€™t wish to get into the almost fetishistic portrayals of his depression and/or draw comparisons between how his depression and johnā€™s is presented, again, in a few circles, because i would love to save my energy for other things.
iā€™ve never seen him say he didnā€™t like the look of the beard and i personally doubt he would have done an entire movie with it and gone on for years sporting one on-and-off, if he had truly hated it. (although of course there is a difference between the ā€œnormalā€ beard, and the unkempt one which was a result of not caring, but, thatā€™s like the whole point of this rant lol) the quote i can think of about the one he grew out during his depressed phase is about how the ā€œmotivationā€ behind that beard wasnā€™t to be groovy, he just couldnā€™t be bothered to shave at the time. but he has also talked about how he thought it was actually natural to have one and shaving was weird, and the joy he got out of not being recognized with it etc. (x) so as always, this topic is much more layered, and itā€™s clear that weā€™re talking about different situations and different motives.Ā 
iā€™m definitely not saying he couldnā€™t have had low points before the break up, or after his main depressed phase passed, but i think thereā€™s a difference between those and the state he had referred to (not getting up, heavy signs of alcoholism etc), so i would definitely not swipe it all under the ā€œoh thatā€™s The Depressionā„¢:)ā€ umbrella as some people tend to do on here.Ā 
i am not questioning his depression, his feelings, or that there could have been insecurity behind his decision of growing a beard and how it shows he did not have the energy to care. however i would think being thorough is something that this discussion and some parts of the fandom are missing, and itā€™s causing his depression and general state between 1969 and 1971 to be quite misinterpreted and misrepresented. i guess for me itā€™s just fucked up to see a photo of bearded paul and run into ā€œoh heā€™s so depressed, thatā€™s him being depressed:((((, depressed paul, dEpRessIo-ā€ comments all the time, when the picture in question has nothing to do with the state paul himself had referred to. but i mean, everyone can interpret it however they want to and i probably sound like a idiot whining about it in such a long post lmao, but i felt like i had to clear it up for you guys. (it was just an inner joke with myself yo:/)
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billssefton Ā· 7 years ago
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my boss found out Iā€™m living with my parents, required to shave a beard, and more
Itā€™s four answers to four questions. Here we goā€¦
1. Iā€™m embarrassed that my boss found out Iā€™m living with my parents
Iā€™m 26 years old and moved back in with my parents three months ago as a combination of getting renovicted (where a landlord evicts a tenant under the, sometimes false, reason of conducting renovation) and wanting to save up a downpayment to purchase my own place.
I work in an office and have been with the company since graduating five years ago. On a recent day off, my manager called the home phone and my mother picked up and handed the phone to me. I think they were provided an outdated phone number by HR.
Obviously I am embarrassed by this, as I especially donā€™t want people at work to know I moved back home as an adult. People will tend to judge you and look at you a certain way and I am aware of that. Basically Iā€™m afraid that word will get around and affect my work relationships and/or future prospects with this employer. Why would a manager want to advance someone or recommend someone who doesnā€™t seem to have their personal life together?
I know it shouldnā€™t matter on paper but people donā€™t behave like that. Am I being paranoid? My plan now is just to basically just ignore it ever happened and be truthful if asked (and to get HR to update my cell #). What else should I do?
You are indeed being paranoid, or at least just overthinking this. This is not a big deal! Itā€™s not even clear that your boss knows for sure that you moved back home (for all he knows, maybe your mom just answered your phone because you couldnā€™t get to it in time). But even if he does know or asks about it in the future, itā€™s no big deal to say ā€œIā€™m saving up a down payment to purchase my own placeā€ or ā€œIā€™m temporarily at my parentsā€™ house because my landlord decided to renovate.ā€
Living at home doesnā€™t mean you donā€™t have your personal life together. Itā€™s true that it can come across that way if there are other signs of that too ā€” inability to hold down a job, refusal to engage with the rest of the world, etc. But assuming that you otherwise seem reasonably together, itā€™s very unlikely that this would enter into your managerā€™s thinking about Professional You.
2. Badmouthing a colleague behind her back
Is it rude to badmouth a colleague behind their back? By this I donā€™t mean complaints or grievances (ā€œI donā€™t like working with Fergus ā€“ he always stands too close and it makes me uncomfortableā€) or factual / informational comments that are actually useful to know (ā€œI worked with Fergus at my last job and he made an intern cryā€).
To give some context, it was recently announced that my office would be using someone external for one of our projects ā€” call her Jean. My team lead, but not my manager ā€” call her Jane ā€” had worked with Jean in the past and knew her fairly well. When this was announced, she told me privately that while Jean was incredibly skilled at her job, she was really mean. She didnā€™t give any further details, and Iā€™m pretty sure she told other members of the team the same thing.
My issues are firstly that it soured any communication I had with Jean. I kept wondering if she was going to say something mean, rather than communicating productively. She never did (perhaps this one is my problem). Secondly, this started to make me question what Jane was saying about me behind my back (again, perhaps Iā€™m being overly paranoid). Am I wrong to think that Janeā€™s comments about Jean being ā€œreally meanā€ were slightly unprofessional? I realize thereā€™s every chance Iā€™m reading too much into it.
I wouldnā€™t say ā€œunprofessional,ā€ exactly ā€” but yeah, not useful or constructive. It was a broad characterization that didnā€™t give you very actionable information. It would be different if sheā€™d said something like, ā€œAs a heads-up, my experience of Jane when we worked together was that she can come across as impatient and fairly critical of work that wasnā€™t her own. Donā€™t be thrown off if that happens; itā€™s not personal.ā€ But just saying ā€œsheā€™s meanā€ could mean anything, and it doesnā€™t tell you what to prepare for. (ā€œMeanā€ could mean anything from ā€œdidnā€™t laugh at my jokesā€ to ā€œgot justifiably annoyed when people gave her sloppy workā€ to ā€œscreamed at the nicest person in the office.ā€) And since there arenā€™t any specifics attached to it, it also feels kind of like a general slurring of Janeā€™s name. Giving more concrete information with context about why she thinks itā€™s useful for you to know would have been a better way to go.
3. My bossā€™s boss said I shouldnā€™t have a womanā€™s name (Iā€™m a woman)
I am female and work for a large predominantly male company. Iā€™ve worked there a long time and have had some big successes. In fact, just a week ago, my team released a very popular product that took months to make. The other day, while getting a coffee from the common area, ā€‹I ran into ā€‹my bossā€™s boss, who I have a completely formal relationship with. After literallyā€‹ ā€‹sayingā€‹ ā€‹just ā€‹ā€Hi, how are youā€‹ā€ to him, he saidā€‹ ā€‹to meā€‹, ā€‹ā€Katie, your name should be Bob.ā€‹ ā€‹Doesnā€™t seem like you should have a womanā€™s name at all.ā€‹ā€‹ā€ā€‹ ā€‹ā€“ apropos ofā€‹ ā€‹nothing. He went on about how a womanā€™s name didnā€™t suit me ā€¦ a woman.
I was caught completely off guard.ā€‹ ā€‹ā€‹I carried on the conversation as if it didnā€™t bother me but I ā€‹deeply regret not telling him he was being inappropriate.ā€‹ ā€‹I consider myself to be aā€‹ prettyā€‹ average ā€‹woman, and am absolutely in line with the office dress code.ā€‹ Iā€‹ ā€‹feel incredibly irritated by this comment, and the meaning of it totally eludes me.ā€‹ I have a feeling never in 1,000 years would he sayā€‹ ā€‹to my male colleague, ā€œā€‹Mike, your name should be Tiffany! Youā€™re not really manly at all!ā€ All I can conclude is that my bossā€™s boss hasā€‹ aā€‹ serious etiquette problem.ā€‹ What should I do, if anything?
What on earth?! Is he implying something about your gender presentation (which would be wildly inappropriate and none of his business)? Is he making a sexist comment about how you have a tough, hard-driving style that he finds ā€œmasculineā€ (which would be inappropriate and gross)? Or ā€¦ I donā€™t even know what the other possibilities are.
If you have decent rapport with your boss, you can mention it to her and if she has any idea what it meant. She may know her boss well enough that she can take a better stab at interpreting it than I can. Beyond that, though, if you havenā€™t seen any other problematic behavior from this guy, Iā€™d make a mental note that he is sexist/weird/inappropriate/offensive and have it in the back of your head in case you seem additional evidence of it. (On the other hand, if this is part of a pattern of sexism from him, you may want to document it in case you decide at some point to act on that.)
4. Can your boss tell you to shave a beard?
I have a friend who has a very short, well-maintained beard. He shaved it after a barber mishap, and upon going into work, his boss told him that she preferred for him to continue to be clean shaven in the office. He let her know that he planned to grow his beard back, but she told him to start ā€œwaking up a few minutes earlier every dayā€ to shave.
Is his boss allowed to reprimand him for ignoring her request about shaving and growing his beard back? I know that workplaces are allowed to place some stipulations on their employees appearances, but requesting that an employee shave really seems to be crossing the line. My friend is always well dressed, so this isnā€™t stemming from an overall need for him to be better put together in the workplace.
Yes, believe it or not, employers can require that men have clean-shaven faces. (The exception to this if you have a beard for religious or medical reasons.) This may seem weirdly retro and outdated, and it is.
But since your friend had a beard in this job previously, he could try pointing out that it hadnā€™t been an issue previously and asking on what grounds his boss is objecting now.
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