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sometipsygnostalgic · 4 years ago

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so we know bubbline were dating at some point in season 10 and was confirmed on screen by the finale but when do you think they officially got back together?

long post? yes. this deserves nothing less

After the episode Sky Witch, the two started spending a LOT of time together.

In the episode Red Starved, Marceline is with Finn and Jake on a quest that Princess Bubblegum assigned to them. In the past, she would have probably told them to ditch the quest and goof off with her instead.

At the end of the episode, she drinks the red from Bonnie. Hilariously, Bonnie is really pissed off and half-dying ( >:[ ), while Marceline just says “thanks lol :)�� and puts her hand on her shoulder. n

In the episode Princess Day, they’re texting each other. Marceline invites PB to goof off with her but PB was too invested in her crossword puzzle.

In the episode Graybles 1000+, Marceline’s sock is suspiciously on the floor in PB’s bedroom 👀 this is pretty queerbaity ngl

And in Varmints, we see Marceline literally sneak into PB’s room at night. She wakes her up and invites her to go on a midnight Squeeze-e-mart run to get slushies. It’s basically a date. It’s implied they were doing this regularly.

However, while they were probably dating or flirting, I don’t think that they had hooked up officially until later on - more specifically, they didn’t get committed until after Stakes.

This is because in Varmints, Marceline hasn’t spoken to PB for at least 2 months. She has no idea about anything that happened in the season 6 finale. And PB is still pushing people away. But at the end of this episode, when PB fully opens up to Marcie for the first time, and Marcie provides much needed support and understanding, I think this is when things got a bit more serious between them.

Marceline and Bonnie in Stakes are crushing hard on each other, and they’re starting to think about the future. However, I think their feelings about each other are complicated enough, as are their feelings about Marcie’s de-vamping, that they can’t have a sincere discussion about how Marceline’s mortality will affect their future. Bonnie provides her full support, and says Marcie will live a fully happy mortal life, and she’ll be the one to bury her in the ground when she dies. The romantic implications of this are obvious. However, the underlying subtext is that PB is pushing down her true feelings of the matter, and Marceline hasn’t thought about the impact on their relationship.

In the episode with the Moon, Marceline starts dying due to poison. She starts dreaming of her desired future life as a mortal. Bonnie has to deal with the concept of Marceline’s death then and there - taken away so suddenly, without any time to process it. Bonnie is struggling to keep herself together, and asks Peppermint Butler for help using suspicious methods that she doesn’t understand. Marceline imagines her own death, with PB at her side still young and pretty, and it’s not a bad reality at all - Marceline lived a happy life in her dream world - but she’s also started wondering what it means to get old and die while her partner has to watch. It’s a difficult situation. Bonnie’s crying ends up being the thing that wakes Marceline up, alerting her to the presence of the Moon.

Anyway it’s in this episode that they were hit with a steel chair reminding them of what they mean to each other.

They still had some more obstacles. Marceline had some growing up to do in Stakes, and she kind of ditched PB at the start of the final battle. But Marceline spoke to Ice King and realised that she’d been strong the whole time, and she took destiny into her own hands. It was the power of her bonds with others and of her newfound respect for herself that she used to kill the Vampire King. Bonnie got to watch this happen.

Even though Marceline had been re-bitten, she was at peace with this now. She’d reclaimed her vampirism with dignity, and owned her trauma. She is happy to remain a vampire because this time, she has her friends to help her. “Now I guess we can be together forever.”

PB is clearly interested at this point in pushing their relatioinship forward, because she invites her to live in the castle. Marceline rejects at the moment, but in this episode, they had become committed.

It’s after this that you see far more moments with them holding hands, Marcie taking PB to a dinner date with Simon, both of them hanging out in the skate park, Marcie singing more love songs ripped from lgbt artists, both of them REPEATEDLY trading clothes (sometimes within the same scene like in Islands Part 1), the whole situation where Marcie was by PB’s side singing songs about love for the entirety of Elements and it was revealed later that she CHOSE to get elementified because she thought there was no way to bring PB back... and then the final season, where Marceline is seen as PB’s strongest ally by her worst enemies. The final episode, where Marceline confronts PB about the war and asks her not to do this, but even though they’re together and having a sincere conversation, they’re still not on the same page because PB is putting this battle above everything else, even though she shows her first signs of conflicted feelings when Marcie talks to her.

When Marceline sees PB “die”, she is overcome with rage, and the power of her heartbreak causes her to turn into Dark Cloud and DEMOLISH the enemy horrorterror. When PB survived, Marceline launched herself at her into a hug, and PB seemed unsure of how to respond to Marceline just pouring her feelings out about how even when they weren’t talking, she was still so worried something would happen to her (makes me wonder if Marcie ever found out about Mortal Folly/Recoil). PB tries to reassure her that nothing will happen, which turns into a funny joke because of her concussion, and they laugh and kiss like it’s the most natural thing in the world. After all, they’ve been a couple for 3 seasons.

What a good pairing. That was a beautiful scene hidden in a chaotic finale.

#adventure time #bubbline

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thefunniestguy · 2 years ago

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hmmMMmmm, any thoughts ab Simon and Marceline ? (Esp in ‘I Remember You’ since I’m thinking about that episode a lot)

OH MAN DEFINITELY ,,, let's seeeee,,,,,,

Hmm , !! First !!!! I think it's ,,, sooooooooo just so very in general how a part of the Ice King remembers Marceline !! I know the entire point of one of those scenes (which ,, mmmm made me uncomfortable , but not much i can do lol) was to show how little he remembers , but !!! in marceline's little song before "i remember you" mentions how they always find their way back to each other !! he find marceline over and over , no matter how hard she tries !!!! maybe a part of that is emotions on her part ? i don't think it's what was intended , but her singing "every time i move eventually you find me , and start hanging around" would be fun if she also meant that she couldn't forget simon - like , no matter where she was , she was reminded of him . buuuuut i know it most definitely means he literally would find her , make up "another lame excuse" to see her , and try and spend time with her . ANYWAY all that to say , i do think there's a part of the ice king who remembers marcy !! even if he doesn't have the memories , or the exact feelings , a part of him is trying so desperately to remember the feelings . unfortunately for both marceline and the viewer , he most likely gets those feelings confused with the other feeling he's been searching for for so long - love . which , like i said , uncomfortable <//3 /lh

this is going off track of "i remember you" but !! about young marcy and not-quite-as-old simon !!! i think their relationship is THE GREATEST ,,,,,,, ofc it's also very much tragic , but when i'm not thinking about what ends up happening , their relationship makes me kinda happy in a way !! in that world , neither of them had anything . the world had practically ended - they were living in a post-apocalyptic nuclear wasteland . simon lost his fiancee , marcy lost her mom . they were two lost and lonely people , both absolutely scared , both absolutely needing a friend !! it's just sweet ,,,, they both cared for each other so much :(( thinking of how hard simon tried to get marcy SOUP because he most definitely felt guilty that she got a cold thanks to his powers !! thinking of how long marcy held onto hambo , a gift that simon got her in an attempt to cheer her up !!! SIMON PRETENDING TO BE A TV , just having father-daughter-like bonding with her !!!!! then , the tragic bits of their relationship :((( like how hard simon tried to not let the crown take over , yet feeling like he had NO CHOICE but to put it on !! how else was he going to save marcy ?? not only was the crown calling to him , but he had to save marceline . she was all he had left in the world !! as far as he knew , it really was just him and her in the wreckage of the world !!! the remains of life were practically out to get them - it wasn't safe , and wasn't something he figured could be handled normally . he was willing to risk his sanity for marceline . and , when he realized how dangerous he was becoming , he left her . because he wanted to keep her safe , even if safe meant that she had to be away from him ,,,,

I , honestly don't know how to add to this , but thinking about "i remember you" again ,, the line in simon's letter / the song "i need to save you , but who's going to save me ?" has me SO mentally ill,,,,,,, the entirety of that letter shows how confused / desperate / even scared simon must have felt . he just needed to keep marcy safe , and he knew it'd tear at his sanity and he was probably terrifying of that !! but he was selfless , in my opinion , letting the crown take over in order to keep marceline safe . even if someone thinks "uhhhhh ok but he didn't NEED the crown to keep her safe !!" then maybe i dunno (looking at the scene w the zombies ,,,,,,, maybe not ,,) but that's ignoring the fact that simon's mind began deteriorating the moment he put on the crown . the crown "spoke to him." to him , he was doing what would save marcy , and i think that makes him selfless ! anyway also "please forgive me for whatever i do when i don't remember you" ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, he must have been so sad ,,,,,,, and scared :((( and guilty :(((((((((( this entire song man ,,,,,,,,,, i can't even get into the second verse , bc GOD it's just . man . "i can feel myself slipping away" "i swear it wasn't me , it was the crown" GOD . OH MY GOD . man . holy moly .

#that last paragraph was 100% just a simon ramble SONDFOIANG #THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH HONESTLY . I APPRECIATE YOU SENDING THESE IN !!!!! /GEN /POS #you have helped my poor little brain /gen

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gemder · 5 years ago

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a bubbline wip, featuring a dissociative episode by our fave punk rock vamp. set shortly after Stakes.

She doesn't know how long she's been hovering over the couch like this, with her gaze trained on the bumps and dips on the ceiling and her bass planted in her arms. How many times has she sung that old song, so old and resilient it survived the death and rebirth of the world (and the both of hers twice over, now) just by hiding in the corner of her mind she doesn't like to visit? She can't see the sun or moon rise through the entrance to her hideaway from this part of the house, and the cave-imposed darkness tells her nothing of the time or how much of it has passed.

She doesn't dare budge from her spot. She's been turned twice now; she knows from experience that any sudden action, anything to startle her base thought process, could spark that bloodlust from last time. That was some ugly biz, if she remembers correctly. It's been a while, but something like an uncontrollable urge to drain the lifeforce of every living creature within 30 miles sticks to you. She's just going to have to wait it out, until the itch in the back of her throat dies down and she doesn't worry it'll become an insatiable burning for hot blood, no matter how long it takes.

Marceline has had an excessive amount of time to learn how to be alone; 1003 years, in fact. So why does it never get any easier? Why does being left never hurt any less? Why does she seem to be so completely destined for eternal loneliness? What asshat decided she deserved to spend the entirety of her neverending life without a single constant presence?

Mom went out with promises of keeping safe and finding food and I love you so much, sweetie, that alone is strong enough to bring me back to you. It took two weeks before little Marcy came to the conclusion that her mom wasn't coming back with food or supplies, or even returning empty handed. Simon let a stupid magical crown take over every single cell of his brain and wrote a bunch of scattered letters about it while it happened instead of, you know, telling the frightened 7 year old she was going to be left soon. Dad just up and left to go back to running the Nightosphere after a few weeks, with nary a parting word nor any notice. Her post-apocalyptic comrades had no choice but to flee from an otherwise inevitable extinction. Bonnie had to go and grow up, and in the process decide that her 900-something year old girlfriend wasn't mature enough.

(She checked that old, busted up camper as often as she could over the following months. There was never another life in that thing after she hopped down the little steps and let the screen door slam back with the carelessness of a 6 year old.)

(She found a decomposed corpse months later that just happened to be wearing some torn up rags that looked like her mom’s old sweater and jeans. It must have just been a coincidence, though; there were a lot of recently dead back then, and even more moth-eaten sweaters in the world.)

(“I’m trying to save you, but who's going to save me?” ‘I don't know, old man, maybe you could have saved yourself? You could have not purposely used the magical relic that was making you go bananas?’ If a 7 year old could make it through the apocalypse without magic then so could a fully grown man.)

(He left her to survive on her own in the name of being executive manager of hell and he still wonders why she wants nothing to do with him, why she used to have such a hard time so much as calling him “dad” when he’s never been anything like what she was lead to believe dads were supposed to be like.)

(She’s 1000 years old, how in the name of the nightosphere could she not be mature enough?)

(Over the years she’s replaced the world “hell” with “Nightosphere” the same way the being once referred to as “God,” back when even she was young, is now called by their proper name of Glob. The Nightosphere really is hell, so it fits.)

(Sometimes she takes the time to think about how she's the heir apparent to the actual, literal, real life hell, and how she's one of the oldest beings around these days, maybe the oldest to still really be sane, but still a messed up teen.)

(She doesn't know how old she was when she was turned; years and months and all that are hard to keep track of when the species that invented it is all but extinct. Is she old enough to drive? Probably. She does and can regardless, because screw the old ways. Old enough to drink, smoke, vote? Debatable. The point is that she’s 1000 years old but actually, like, 18. What the fuck.)

She drifts, both mentally and physically. She's had plenty of time and isolation to ponder the Big Things about life and the world and why and how things happened the way they did, and what it means. She will have an abundance of opportunities in the future to think about these things, too. Some day she'll reflect on this part of her life in the far away, nostalgia-filtered sepia tones she currently thinks of her childhood and adolescence. She'll remember when Finn and Jake were the heroes of Ooo, when Simon used to chase after princesses who will have long since passed, when she couldn't get over her ex-girlfriend who happened to be sentient candy. It will be distant and she will miss it terribly, the same way she misses her mother, and Simon when he was Simon, and fries in a long-abandoned diner. But it will be a wound long since closed and numbed, like the deep scar she got on her calf sometime in her early teens that still exists today, preserved in her immortality and a sentimentality that prevented her from insta-healing it away, sting and blood long gone.

She has forever to reminisce, but only right now to live in the present. She makes mental patterns in the bumps on the ceiling, and slowly loses grip on her body. She is a million miles upwards, where the sky holds no oxygen and the stars are still pinpricks in a sea of indigo construction paper. Like a kid poking holes in the top of a jar of lightning bugs, equipped with a fork and enthusiasm at being able to destroy something for the sake of encapturing something else. She is, at the same time, hovering above her uncomfortably hard couch. One of her hands slips from its place atop her bass, and Shwabl licks it from his spot next to her on the dusty carpet.

She doesn't hear the knock at the door. She is right there, but she is centuries back and in a different part of the continent entirely. She doesn't hear Bonnie getting increasingly agitated, trying and failing not to raise her voice at her through the door. She doesn't notice when Bonnie lets herself in regardless of Marceline’s lack of response, or when Shwabl jumps up to attention at the guest.

It's the “Marceline, what -” that breaks her dissociative spell. That tone of exasperation in that particular voice is a very familiar one, especially within the last decade. She comes to to find that there are fresh tears in the corner of one eye and the words to a song as old as her youth on her lips.

“Oh, hey Bombòn. How goes it girl?” Marceline has had a millennium to convince the world that she's chill and totally not a big mess, and it shows in the lilt to her voice that screams ‘I'm just chillin’’ and not ‘I've been dissociating and crying and probably singing for who-knows-how-long and I'm really messed up’. She still doesn't dare move from her spot, because moving around could still trigger what she's trying to wait out.

“It's been three weeks, Marcy. Three weeks, and all that heavy biz, and no one's heard from you since. Doesn't that seem even a little bit irresponsible to you? Didn't you think people would worry? Or even wonder ‘hey, what happened to that girl who saved all our butts and got revampified?’”

“Dude, I've just been chilling. You know how it is; jams, games, pets, it keeps a girl busy. It’s cool. Ice cold, in fact.”

Bonnie sighs. Marceline has heard that sigh a million and three times over by now, and she's learned to like that particular sound from the pink girl; it's the one thing about herself that she can't manage to sweeten to the point of oversaturation, until it (like the rest of her) is practically dripping sugar. Marceline likes to deal with the authentic rather than the idealized versions of people, because the latter rarely ever means anything good is coming her way.

(She rationalizes that the Ice King component of Simon, while not idealized, is not authentic in the least; the products of full humans getting mixed up with magic seldom are. The authentic Simon Petrikov is the one who found a 6 year old girl in the ruins of a suburban New Mexico town and still had enough selflessness in the aftermath of the apocalypse to comfort her and take care of her.)

The sigh doesn't lead to the reprimanding the vampire expects. Instead, she watches as Bonnie leans down in her peripheral vision to pet Shwabl, expression focused intently on the dog. She's doing that same schooled neutrality shit she used to do during those globawful trade meetings - the ones Marcy used to steal her away from the go gallivanting through the rock candy mines.

“What kind of sweet tunes have you whipped up, then? Lay it on me girl.”

Marceline lets her face adopt a smirk - the expression has become a reflexive habit after centuries of being a bitter undead loner - even as something in her stomach drops. Bonnie rarely asks about her music because she knows so much of it is personal, and that which isn't is vulgar or morbid and prone to being shared regardless, not to mention the fact that Bonnie’s interests definitely don't lie in the arts, or punk rock music, or most of the uglier parts of Marceline.

“You know my latest album is the epitome of personal mush, Bons. It's so personal I'd have to kill you if you heard any of it. But, I do have a new demo about a fisherman.”

Bonnibel definitely wants something out of her; she has that smile she reserves for Cinnamon Bun and Finn when he's going on about dumb 13 year old boy things, the one that's polite and reservedly encouraging, the one that Marcy has always found to be condescending although it always looks as sweet as its wearer who is literally made out of candy, almost as sweet as the girl’s public persona.

The thing about being 1000 years old and also a teenage girl is that you spend forever being a socially-minded person on some level or another, because back in the day that's how girls were socialized to be - social-driven creatures who cared more about what Allyson wore on Tuesday or what Theresa said about Serena in math class than anything practical. So Marceline has had a long time to notice the tells and ticks of the select few she surrounds herself with often enough to care about. PB smiles like her kindergarten teacher used to on particularly trying days when she thinks the people she's with are idiots but can't call them out for it. Her eyebrows droop when she's so tired that sheer willpower will no longer keep them up. She plays with her hands when she's nervous. She used to chew on her hair when she was younger and in the process of creating her kingdom, when stress was a new feeling she hadn't yet made a feedback loop out of.

This is totally, completely because of the sexist socialization of the old world, and nothing else. Totally not because they dated for a good chunk of time, or because one or the other might, maybe be having rose-coloured thoughts about the other again.

“Everyone and their granny has heard that one, Marcy. If you've had all this time to do nothing but groove and game then I wanna hear some tunes! Don't be a butt about it.” She's trying to gode the older girl, but Marceline is itching to get out of this particular conversation. Somewhere in her cursed, mostly re-dried blood she knows this is a test.

“I don't bust into your lab and start interrogating you about your experiments - can you just lay off, man?” she says it more harshly than she had meant to, but being yanked back to reality and immediately questioned over every move will do that to a person. “Tell me what's been going on in Candyland. You finally get all the earwax off of your junk?”

“You know if you did ask about my science experiments I would be happy to tell you all about them - well, the ones that aren't classified. It's called caring, Marce, it's a thing that friends do.”

A tense silence follows as Marceline thinks of something biting (but not petty!) to throw back at her.

“And yeah, actually, I did. The dingus left a huge mess but there's nothing my purple cleaner can't get rid of.”

Bonnie can't leave a single box unticked, can she?

“Glob, that stuff is nasty. The fumes make me gag, and I don't even need to breathe!”

The princess raises a brow at her. The queen furrows both of hers in frustration and fixes her gaze back on the bumps on the ceiling. When she was younger she used to make images out of the dips and dots in the kindergarten room ceiling; the RV’s was smoothed and didn't allow that particular part of her imagination to play around.

“And I think the expression you're looking for is sharing is caring, Bubs. It's a thing they used to say waaaaaaaay back in the day whenever the old people got tired of little kids fighting over toys.”

*******

this was gonna be a longfic feat. mutual pining by our fave disaster gays and more references to marcy’s life pre- and during the apocalypse bc i have a lot of feelings about Stakes. might come back to it, who knows!!!

#ash talks #ash writes #bubbline #bubbline fanfic #writing wip

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pineyw00dsshesquatch · 1 year ago

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Beautiful! I needed Finn to come back at the end.

Him and Marcy. Mostly Marcy

I was (and still am) too in love with the rest of the show to get real fussy with the ending, it was just disappointing in a few spots. I loved the dandelion coming back as abstract magic, but hated the cliche city streets "superhero movie" style climax in Fionna's world. To be upfront, drone/robot/zombie/hoardes like the scarab bugs climaxes that drag out are a major peeve of mine and just take me out. It makes the last half of Inuyasha, Swords of an Honorable Ruler unwatchable.

It didn't like the AU folks popping up and was lost till a commentary video pointed out Prismo was responsible. I don't understand how Jay could just leave his siblings after it was unclear if Farmworld Finn survived. However, I wouldda absolutely bought Marcy popping in cuz she heard about Simon's universe jumping. I think it couldda been handled as a joke that "word gets around" and been fine.

Who knows what happened, I wouldn't be surprised if Marceline's voice actor had conflicts or there were budget disputes that dimished her part. I would also not be surprised if top down meddling demanded the tired "superhero movie" style climax. The setup from the other episodes really felt like it was going somewhere different than what we got.

I understand not bringing Finn back for the finale, but Marcy is so important to Simon and the show spent so much time emphasizing the importance of their relationship to the entirety of Ooo. It feels weird how absent she is given all that setup.

I still really love what we got with Fionna and Cake as a good spinoff to AT that really handled its material well, grew with its audience, and justified the multiverse trend. Like, THIS is how it's done, if any franchise has earned multiverse privileges, it's Adventure Time.

crying , i wanted to see more of these two :(

#instead of a dumbass superhero movie fight with GD drone bugs (a sequence that went NOWHERE)#i needed those episodes of Simon dad setup resolved with Marcy #i think too much time got wasted on Casper and Nova #but at least an artist got a great feature and hopefully a good check #zero sass artists getting paid is important af #fionna and cake #fionna and cake spoilers #fionna and cake ending

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keatulie · 6 years ago

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a Simon Petridad imageset that basically ended up being the entirety of Simon and Marcy dfsjh.

#sure the 'I love you' gets sad like a second later in context but it's /so cute/ on its own omg #adventure time #simon petrikov #marceline #cartoons #original

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gunterfan1992 · 6 years ago

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What Became of Marcy and PB?

I thoroughly enjoyed the finale, but I was left with one nagging question that is still bothering me: what became of Marcy and PB? I’m not talking about their relationship status. (The epilogue of the episode makes it pretty clear that they ended up as a happy couple.) I’m talking about 1000 years in the future.

In an interview with TVLine, executive producer Adam Muto noted, "I don’t want to lay out their entire future ... but there are enough pieces there that you can kind of construct what their life will be like going forward.” If that’s the case, then let us follow the hints and try to figure out what became of our two favorite (quasi-)immortals.

Reader be warned: this post is full of half-baked conspiracy theories and cherry-picked data points, all assembled in a way that vindicates my theory that Marceline and Bubblegum are still alive in Ooo 1000+. I make no claim that this is 100% full-proof. I just don’t want to believe that they are dead!

Let’s start with the King of Ooo: BMO. After Beth and Shermy question the robot about what happened to Marceline, Bubblegum, Finn, and Jake, BMO responds that they “kept living their lives.” This, combined with the fact that Marceline no longer lives in her house and the Candy Kingdom is in ruins, suggests that the two are dead. But while this answer might seems obvious, it leaves a lot to be desired.

First off, Marceline’s cave-house being abandoned is not indicative of anything too major. Remember, she used to live in the Tree Fort before eventually abandoning it, too. By the time that Ooo 1000+ rolled around, she could have easily moved to another locale. In fact, I would argue evidence within the episode suggests that sometime (probably awhile) after the Tree Fort was destroyed, Marceline gave her cave-house to Finn, Jake, and BMO, and then likely moved in with PB (given that at the end of Stakes, Bubblegum offers to let her move into her castle, an offer which Marceline initially declines, but implies she might one day take up). Not only would this be thematically fitting, as it was she who “gave” Finn and Jake the Tree Fort in the first place, but it would also explain how some of Finn and Jake’s belongings found a home at the house (1) and how BMO came to be in possession of a few of Marceline’s items, like her DARE shirt, sunscreen, or Simon’s broken glasses. These were items that Marceline probably didn’t care that much about (2) and consequently left behind when she moved.

Perhaps a bigger issue is that Marceline, for all intents and purposes, can’t easily die—if at all. She is immortal, and while she has her weaknesses, it’s unclear if they truly are lethal weaknesses: we’ve seen her survive being exposed to sunlight (“Henchman”, “What Was Missing”), cut in half (Stakes, “Everything Stays”), bombarded with garlic (”Henchman”), and poisoned (Stakes, “May I Come In?”). You might be asking, ‘The previous Vampire King was killed? Could not someone have staked Marceline, too?’ Unlikely. We know from Stakes that the Moon—the vampire from whom Marceline derived her healing powers—could survive being staked in the heart (remember, she was only defeated when Marceline absorbed her vampiric essence, not when she was staked). Marceline absorbed the Moon’s power, therefore it follows that Marceline can’t die from being staked. Perhaps Marceline had her vampiric essence removed by Bubblegum, and she grew old and died, just like her fever dreams in Stakes? While this is certainly a possibility (we know that Bubblegum can remove the Vampiric Essence from Marceline, given that we have seen her do it), it negates the main themes in Stakes, which focused on Marceline coming to terms with her immortality and learning to love her lot in life. If Marceline can die even in her undead state, then all the suffering unleashed upon Ooo during Stakes was for naught, and that just doesn’t seem like something Adventure Time would do.

And what of Bubblegum? We know that Bubblegum’s biological age is correlated with her candy biomass (“Mortal Recoil”, “Too Young”). This means that her “rate of mortality [is] decouple[ed] … from chronological age,” heavily suggesting that she is ‘biologically immortal’. This concept—which is a real thing, fyi—does not mean that she can’t die, just that she won’t die from old age (3). Thus, she likely lived hundreds of years into the future after the age of Finn and Jake, probably into the Graybles 1000+ world. This is implied by the state of the Prizeball Guardian: it looks rather pristine, in comparison to pretty much the entirety of Ooo, suggesting it is a somewhat new creation. Given that the guardian was almost certainly created by Bubblegum (I mean, just look at it), and the guardian is new-looking, it suggests that Bubblegum herself was alive at least recently (4). (This is also suggested by admittedly non-canon drawings that Steve Wolfhard made clearly showing his belief that Bubblegum is alive in the Ooo 1000+ world.)

Given that Bubblegum cannot die readily from old age, the only other thing that could have killed her, I argue, would be some sort of calamity. Ooo 1000+ looks pretty wrecked, and was not the Candy Kingdom destroyed? Yes, and in both “Lemonhope” and the intro to “Come Along with Me”, we catch glimpses of the ruins! But, if one peruses the storyboard of “Lemonhope II”, one will notice Tom Herpich’s purposeful note that the kingdom is “abandoned (not bombed out)” [emphasis added]. Indeed, the kingdom looks overgrown and desolate, but not like the site of a war zone (e.g. the main citadel is mostly intact, and a number of skyskrapers are unscathed, unlike others we’ve seen that we know were caught in the crossfire of war). This, coupled with the fact that the Prizeball Guardian exists suggests that, rather than having her kingdom extinguished in a war, Bubblegum loaded up her citizens into the Guardian, put them in what is effectively cryogenic sleep, and then abandoned her old realm (5). Why? We’ll come to that in a second.

But before we jump into that, let me entertain the idea that Marceline and Bubblegum are dead and living together somewhere in the afterlife, say, the 50th Dead World. While a sweet idea, it is complicated by the fact that Bubblegum is the embodiment of the candy elemental, and will almost certainly be reincarnated in the future. [I now enter into headcanon territory] Also, Marceline is the daughter of the Lord of the Nightosphere, a deathless entity. Given how much he wanted Marceline to “take over the family business” (“Daddy’s Little Monster”), do you think he’d really let her succumb to a mortal’s demise? Almost certainly, he would have had a few words with Death. While this is extrapolation beyond the text, I think it’s worth thinking about.

Now, let us jump back into the main discussion by considering BMO’s collection of Ooo memorabilia. Eagle-eyed viewers will note that BMO’s trove of junk is made up almost entirely of bits and pieces from the show’s past: including Finn and Jake’s clock, a King of Ooo figurine, Simon’s glasses, Carol’s elf drawings, Ice King’s drums, and a collection of princess crowns. While a handful of the items almost assuredly belonged to Marceline (e.g. Simon’s glasses, sunscreen the DARE shirt) and Bubblegum (e.g. one of the crowns), there is one item of immense sentimental value missing: Marceline’s ax bass. Surely, if BMO were to keep sentimental reminders of previous friends (notice, BMO has both the shattered remnants of the Finn and Jake clock, as well as Jake’s favorite cup, which has been glued back together) the robot would have kept the vampire queen’s most prized possession? Its absence suggests one of four things: a) Marceline is still alive and in possession of the bass, or Marceline was killed and the bass was b) buried somewhere (a la Finn’s robot arm or as a grave marker), c) carted off by scavengers, or d) returned to the Nightosphere. All are viable possibilities, but the fact that BMO tracked down some rather valuable items (GGGG’s groovy Martian headgear, the crowns of power, etc.), it seems strange that the robot could not have also tracked down the bass, given that BMO liked Marceline (“Ketchup”) and probably knew how much the instrument meant to her (based on their interactions in “What Was Missing” and “Ketchup”).

Given all the issues above, there is one answer that I believe solves the mystery: Marceline and Bubblegum are both alive, but have chosen to abandon the portions of Ooo that we know. Perhaps they are off exploring on their own, or perhaps they have left Earth far behind. Why would Bubblegum abandon her realm? Simple. She was ‘tired’. She expressed these exact same sentiments in “Varmints”, only after her citizens had ‘voted her out of office’. Perhaps by the time Ooo 1000+ rolls around, Bubblegum was once again exhausted by the duties of office (having ruled for 1800 years), but decided to leave on her own terms. Simply abandoning her kingdom would have caused it to quickly collapse (cf. “The Pajama War”), and every time she created and/or appointed a successor, they turned into a tyrant (”Too Young”, “Goliad”, “Bonnibel Bubblegum”). Thus, the only option left was to load up her citizens in a device that would keep them safe until she eventually returned at some point in the future to resume control of her realm.

But could not the Prizeball Guardian simply be a defense mechanism in case the kingdom is attacked and/or Bubblegum is killed? Possibly, but cryogenically preserving candy citizens would do them no good if their creator—the one who could wake them up and then take care of them after some calamity—was gone (consider, for instance, that during times of war or natural disaster, governments don’t load up refugees onto buses, anesthetize them, and then drive them around in circles for decades). Indeed, the Prizeball Guardian seems less like a disaster-evasion project and more like a stasis chamber to keep the candy people safe until some future time. The storyboard for “Graybles 1000+” seems to back this up: when Crunchy is removed from stasis, he mumbles, “What time is it? Did it work?” In other words, it is as if Crunchy was expecting to be displaced in time and to be revived at some future date, rather than simply ‘saved’ (7).

The theory that Marceline and Bubblegum are still out there sidesteps many of the problems we have considered. It explains why some of Marceline’ stuff was picked up by BMO, whereas other items of greater sentimental value (e.g. the ax bass) are missing. Likewise, it nicely explains what happened to the Candy Kingdom. But where did Marceline or Bubblegum go? That is the real question. Perhaps they hopped down to the Nightosphere (unlikely), or perhaps they set off to find parts unknown. Maybe the went to Mars. (There’s even substantial evidence that they might be in the finale’s intro sequence!) The Oooniverse is pretty much unlimited, meaning that so too are the possibilities. Given that the Prizeball Guardian was designed to one day ‘wake up’ all the candy citizens, it is likely that Bubblegum (and Marceline) will one day return to Ooo, but for now, they are outies.

Still not convinced? Think I’m grasping at straws? Then let me present one final piece of evidence. Into 2016, Cartoon Network released a bonus video on their YouTube channel that features Marceline singing a song about “someone kind of special” to her. This song is a cover/reworking of the shows ending theme, "Come Along with Me”, in which Marceline lovingly intones:

Run away with me And the poltergeists and ghouls. We can wander through the darkness And play by our own rules.

Run away with me To a cavern shaped like home Where we'll build our own forever And never dance alone.

[emphasis added]

While rife with similes and rich language, the lyrics of the songs are pretty easy to decipher: Marceline cares deeply about someone and yearns to literally run off with them, living forever in a state of happiness. And what’s the name of this song? Why, the “Happy Ending Song”! While one could argue that the song isn’t canon and thus shouldn’t be considered as evidence (6), I think it nicely foretells what Marceline and Bubblegum‘s future holds. For one thing, the song is a play on "Come Along with Me", which in many ways is canonically 'prescient', as it is the song that plays during the montage depicting the future of Ooo's citizens. By alluding to and building off this tune, I would argue that "Happy Ending Song" arguably absorbs some of the original’s 'prescient' nature post facto (8). For another, the very last shot shows two feminine figures silhouetted against the setting sun, holding hands. Notice that this shot follows the lyrics and Marceline’s dialogue, subtly implying that it is depicting some future event. Ultimately, both the imagery in the video and the lyrics themselves hint heavily that Marceline and her paramour (which the series finale finally confirms to be Bubblegum) end up living together happily, free from the cares of modern society, as they “build [their] own forever” [emphasis added]. This nicely echoes what Marceline told Bubblegum at the end of Stakes: “Now, I guess we get to hang out together forever.”

Long story short: I believe that Marceline and Bubblegum are still alive and kicking, but have left Ooo far behind.

Footnotes

1. For instance, the the weird diving bell that used to hang from the Tree Fort is on the porch. While Marceline certainly lived in the Tree Fort at some point in the past, it's not entirely clear why she would've hauled this item all the way to her house and then abandoned it. It's more likely that it was scavenged by Finn and Jake, who arguably had a much more sentimental attachment to the old fort.

2. But Marceline loved Simon like a father! Why would she leave behind his glasses? Likely because these glasses were the ones that Simon wore while he and Marceline wandered the wasteland (you can tell because the left lens is broken). When he was returned to his normal state, he likely got new glasses, and these older ones were forgotten about.

3. While Bubblegum fully admits in “Goliad” that she will likely one day die, it is heavily implied that she believes her death will come from some horrible accident (like the Lich possession), rather than just old age. Furthermore, Bubblegum and Marceline’s discussions about mortality in Stakes suggests that Bubblegum would outlive Marceline were the latter to turn into a mortal. Remember, that in Farmworld, Marceline lived 1000 years as a mortal before she was killed by the Mutagenic Bomb. This means that Marceline as a mortal in Ooo Prime would likely live 1000 after turning mortal again (with the 1000 years she lived as a vampire not counting, since she was essentially ‘stuck’ at age ~20). Putting these puzzle pieces together suggests that Bubblegum believes she can easily live another 1000 years.

4. Notice also that in “Graybles 1000+”, the interior of the Guardian is dark but not dusty or abandoned. In fact, it looks quite well-lived in (and the storyboard for that episode, described as “cozy”); this suggests that someone was living here not too long ago. Given Bubblegum’s love of knowledge (note that books are strewn about as if they were recently read), and the portrait of the candy kingdom on the wall, it is heavily suggested that Bubblegum herself was the one who was occupying the space.

5. You might asking: what about Neddy and his love of the Candy Kingdom tree? Is not the tree dead in “Lemonhope”? Yes, but you will also notice that on the Prizeball Guardian, there are trees very similar to that which grew out of the Kingdom’s main tower.

6. The song was neither featured in nor written for a specific episodes, per Adam Muto. However, because Muto is very good about confirming/denying what is and is not canon (e.g. “The Adventure Time comics are as canonical as a Funko Pop”), the fact that his answer does not immediately decanonize the song is notable. Furthermore, the song is sung by Olivia Olson (that is, the official voice actress of Marceline), and the video even features new footage (albeit, mostly composed of flash-edited scenes from “Marceline’s Closet”).

7. Also, consider how hopelessly bleak and cruel it would be for the Prizeball Guardian to have been destroyed in “Graybles 1000+” if Bubblegum isn’t around anymore. The candy citizens would either sleep for eternity, or die a la 2001: A Space Odyssey. Neither fits with the arguably bittersweet (but certainly not mean-spirited) world of Adventure Time.

8. Perhaps this is why Marceline ends her song by noting it is an example of how "totally deep" she can be.

* As an aside, I also like the idea that Bubblegum, before she left, gave her crown to BMO (after all, were PB to have effectively abandoned her post, she would have no longer needed the crown), jokingly anointing the robot the “One True King of Ooo”, or something like that. It’s fitting that a joke like this would be taken up by BMO and turned into a veritable legend. It would also serve as one last dig against the charlatan King of Ooo, whom we know Bubblegum hated.

#adventure time #atimers #marcline #Marceline the Vampire Queen #bubblegum #princess bubblegum #bubbline #Ooo 1000+#Ooo 1000 #speculation #headcanon #denial #season 10 #finale #come along with me #spoilers

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thenugking · 6 years ago

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okay list of things i want from the adventure time finale

Bubbline

nice simon and marcy moments that make me cry!!

i don’t mind if simon gets cured or not as long as it’s treated respectfully

for simon and betty to not get back together i love them but their relationship is So unhealthy

for an Explanation of what is up with peppermint butler and why he’s different from the rest of the candy people

bubblegum and marceline kiss

it looks like we’re going to get a framing narrative set in the Future so for that to tie in to what we see of the future in Graybles 1000+ and Lemonhope

but for no explicit “here’s exactly what everyone is doing Now in the future, each with their two children” or whatever let’s leave stuff vague enough for people to headcanon their own thing

finn’s gotta be okay though

bubblegum and marceline say i love you to each other

marcy punches ash

simon punches ash

bubblegum punches ash

ash gets punched a lot

patience st. pim like idk what her role here would be but i love her

a shitload of bubbline scenes

a bunch of magic/normal/king man he has the best lines

betty and magic/normal/king man being bros and helping each other move on from their exes and accept that they’re not going to get them back but they can be chill about that

but also conversely, i want to see margles

nice finn and simon moments

prismo and cosmic owl and glob and death and all the cosmic entities

prismo and cosmic owl and glob and death and all the cosmic entities freaking the fuck out when GOLB turns up

fern catches a break and is okay

the entirety of the Island Song to play at the end

b u b b l i n e

#adventure time #come along with me #bubbline

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dysaniadisorder · 4 months ago

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it feels like CHEATING to list any of the Simon & Marcy episodes (I Remember You, Simon & Marcy, Betty, Broke His Crown, entirety of Stakes), OR any Marceline & Bubblegum episodes (What Was Missing & Sky Witch & Broke his Crown & Varmints OBVIOUSLY and then also the entirety of Stakes).... any Marceline episode is such an automatic win for me its like.... unfair. to the other episodes. when i was younger though (like around when AT ended) i was OBSESSED w Varmints (and Stakes). Stakes feels like it was fucking hand crafted for me.

Prismo & BMO episodes also feel like cheating somehow because i love them so. fucking much. Finn the Human + Jake the Dog are SUCH good fucking episodes worldbuilding wise too.... i think thats when AT took the nosedive into being like Oh this show is like actually unhinged. Wake Up + Is That You? are also such incredible Prismo episodes....... Is That You? is also... gestures. timeloop episode my beloved. and it establishes my favorite off the rails fact about canon (maybe besides the Betty time travel)

Fern episodes are also cheating but my favorite of his would probably be Three Buckets. between the insane title (& and fucked up justification for it), maybe the darkest scene in all of AT & Finn being so genuinely fucked up after so visibly like............ that did. something. Do No Harm is also so great as somebody who also isn't a good person

Daddy-Daughter Card Wars is for sure one of my favorite and kind of one of the sweetest episodes..... i love seeing Jake w his kids and also in that episode theres a moment where Charlie refers to BMO as "she" and i remember sitting alone and crying when that happened and then coming out as trans like a year later

another unhinged plot episode (and my favorite of those) i think HAS to be The Vault. the fact that the canon reincarnation not only draws Finn & Jake together but it also draws them back to the same places & the same friends..... (i also LOVE that era of princess bubblegum that you mostly only see in the comics :) ) also Shoko. jesus christ Shoko

Dark Purple is my favorite truly out of nowhere AT episode. why was that there. just to make it all more weird and dystopian. my other favorite is Blank Eyed Girl i actually don't know what the fuck happened there or why that episode was made. I don't know why they did that. I don't know why they did that

THE HALL OF EGRESS IS ALSO REALLY GOOD. Great fucking timeloop. Beyond the Grotto is also really good and so,,, strange.

Flame Princess episodes also feel like cheating because she's so me i've been sooo like her ever since i was a kid (its the undiagnosed mental illness) also the episode Ignition Point has a really funny Hamlet bit

I Am A Sword is also SO great in that it's from Finnswords perspective,,, an episode near that (it mightve been after he lost the finnsword ?) is The Box Prince where instead of dealing with his issues he plays make believe with cats and gets really serious about it

JERMAINE. Jermaine is SUCH a good episode it feels like such an upsetting accumulation of their childhood... their parents died awhile ago but the most they visit them is back at their old workplace, because their parents house is filled with actual demons..... and gosh Jermaine he's such a middle child. Abstract is such a great fucking sequal to it. if you can count on adventure time for anything it's that it has really normal families .

out of Stakes, Islands & Elements that order is probably my favorite. Theyre all so fucking good though & Islands was such a good tie up of a loose string that had been following Finn since like season 2 .

i havent watched distant lands/obsidian yet but i think my fav FAC episodes would be Prismo the Wishmaster (dude just sits around watching old videos of finn and jake. what if i killed myself) Cake the Cat, Simon Petrikov and probably,,, honestly Casper & Nova. I know Casper & Nova + Cheers! ended up really underrated cuz there was so much pressure on them as the final episodes but i fucking loved them. i'd say The Star but thats also cheating they put Marceline in the fem vampire tarot coded outfits of my dreams and then dropped butch bubblegum on my lap for good measure. with a side of Simon being Marcelines Dad still. i'm gonna die

uuuh. hope this helped ♡

kissing u whats ur fav adventure time episode(s)

beloved babe lightof my life you dont understand you will have to be more specific.

#asks #friends #adventure time #mx watermelon

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athetos · 6 years ago

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Top five/ten adventure time episodes?

I’m on season 5 in my rewatch with a friend (who is watching for the first time) soo I keep rediscovering good episodes! This is in no particular order, but here are some of the best in my opinion:

1. Simon and Marcy

2. The entirety of stakes

3. All your fault

4. The entirety of islands

5. Come along with me

6. Return from the Nightosphere

7. Varmints

8. Princess day

9. Wizards only, fools

10. Broke his crown

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snowflake-owl · 7 years ago

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Lets count Simon's spoken appareances: holly jolly secrets, simon and marcy, betty, like a minute in the entirety of stakes broke his crown, and the show ends in 8 episodes

I need a moment.

#simon petrikov #adventure time #so this is why nobody cares about him #I'm extremely bitter about the fact I spent 5 years invested for nothing lol

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discet · 2 years ago

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Actually I have more thoughts on this cause its a really a really good premise.

So I think Ice Queen Marcy has a very different reputation than Ice King Simon. Cause I don’t think she spends her time kidnapping princesses. Cause that was Simon’s hang up was he couldn’t save Betty.

But Marcy does save Anne and Sasha, even if she forgets where she stowed them once falling to madness. So I think she actually becomes this tragic but mostly benevolent figure in Ooo. Occasionally adopting orphans (and kids she thinks are orphans, which causes trouble) and then forgetting them once they grow old enough to take care of themselves. Marceline started a support group for this daisy chain of people who Marcy adopted and then forgotten.

Which is all to say that once Anne and Sasha thaw one day Ice Queen Marcy goes off and becomes obsessed with them. She spends Season one just hounding them trying to kidnap them. And wherever A+S go they’re like, “Yeah that crazy ice queen lady keeps attacking us!”

But everyone they try to tell this to is just like “How did you manage to piss off the Ice Queen? She’s the sweetest little old lady in Ooo” and maybe causes a fight at some point. I think Marceline’s the only one who suspects the significance of Anne and Sasha

At the end of the season Marcy finally succeeds in kidnapping them both and hauling them to the Ice Castle. And what becomes clear to the reader and slower to Anne and Sasha is that Marcy is recreating the conditions of one of their old sleepovers. They almost escape during a test of courage (scare dare) but end up getting in each others way and getting captured again.

Then while Anne and Sasha are in the Ice Jail Cell Marcy wheels in an old CRT and declares it to be ‘movie time’. And as the all too familiar music and opening music and scene of War of the Warlocks starts to play, it finally hits home to Anne and Sasha that the ice queen is the friend they spent the last season grieving for.

Anne and Sasha both try to appeal to their shared friendship and to get Marcy to remember, but the Ice Queen is unfazed and clearly does not recognize them. Then a musical score swells and draws Marcy’s attention back to the movie and she insists that Anne and Sasha watch cause its getting to the best part. Heart broken, Anne and Sasha agree, and for the first time watch the entirety of War of the Warlocks with Marcy.

The episode ends with Marcy falling asleep as the credits roll and Anne and Sasha both in rough emotional states. Marceline flies in and gets Anne and Sasha out of there.

From there it would probably be a story of Anne and Sasha looking into ways to safely break Marcy away from the crown as they continue to explore Ooo

Oh but now I'm imagining a scenario where what Marcy finds is the ice kings helmet. She puts it on and is slowly driven mad like ice King was. Maybe she freezes Anne and Sasha to protect them from the end of the world and they thaw out in the land of Ooo. They don't realize how they got there at first but maybe during the season 1 finale they realize that "Ice Queen" is actually Marcy

That's another fun take on the crossover! Definitely some good angst. Especially since Anne and Sasha probably spend most of S1 under the impression that Marcy full on sacrificed herself for them.

Though i think the best part of it is that

A) while iceking is super old, from what I understand, Simon remains the same age as when he bonded to the crown when he's free from it. So I think its reasonable to think Marcy would be the same way

B) Marcy and Marceline's dynamic. Where Marcy is a much more like an older sister to Marceline as they survive the wasteland than a motherly figure.

Which leads to a scene where after Marceline meets Anne and Sasha and picks up on their repressed feelings for each other + Marcy and becomes kind of like ''What are your intentions for my insane amnesiac older sister?" which I think is a hilarious dynamic.

#crown!marcy au

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