#that scene with sebastian and the nun…….

[merakiui]

Is it simping for Black Butler character time? because DAMM Sebastian be looking SO good! and ciel is baby he's my son, look how older he looks now! My boys all grown up😭

Aaaa yess!! The baby boy is growing up!!! :D and of course Sebastian looks wonderful as always! Although he looks so much more babygirl now. It’s very cute! >0< it’s been so long since I’ve picked up Black Butler, so I should rewatch/reread it! A friend and I used to be so obsessed with it when we were younger, so it’s exciting to know we will be getting a new season!!!

[myreygn]

Okay let's give this a try: Black Butler

lemme preface this by saying it's been SO LONG since i actually watched the show so please don't come at me 🥲

favorite character; joker is will be forever has always been my precious princess and when i say it's been forever since i watched the show the only thing excluded from that is book of circus because i rewatch this shit religiously

are they the best character?; well he is very much a side character so as much as it hurts me to say this, probably not. again it's been a hot minute since i've seen the actual show, i'm missing a bunch of ovas and i haven't read the manga but i'm gonna go with sebastian, like let's be real sebastian has by far the most interesting dynamics in the show

[moneyisthebestlawyerinh3ll]

One of my friends who knows very little of kuro made this edit and i

[savleye]

new season of black butler AFTER A WHOLE DECADE??? Season 3 released when I was in middle school during my "I don't like men I'm just a really good ally" phase and now im 23 and we are FINALLY getting season 4???

[omside]

Girl why are there so many posts in the twisted wonderland tag of black butler fans being like ‘haha twst fans crying over the announcement shush let us have this’ except all the other posts that mention black butler in the twst tag are saying the exact same thing likeee… are the twisted wonderland fans complaining about the black butler announcement in the room with us right now?

[grellssquishyhusband]

Me after catching up with the manga and realizing your right

THEORY TIME:

The children of the F.O.L orphanage are being raised in a specific environment, not for their blood, but for the Cinematic Records to keep certain others alive.

In earlier arcs, we know the Undertaker tried using false records and failed, then he tried stretching out real records by looping them, and now he may be using "look alike" records to keep the real ones going. That would explain why the children in Pomeranian are being raised to be copies of R!Ciel, down to his clothing.

The class Ginny was in wear clothing that closely resemble Doll's ensemble and Ginny's Fledgling Day was moved up right after Doll showed signs of regressing. Not to mention the importance of horse riding in their group (which we know Doll was skilled at).

But then who are the other groups keeping alive? Well, we know that one group is definitely training to be a butler and that one of Undertaker's lackies IS a butler (possibly Sébastien? Maybe Agni?) So that explains one class.

And the last? A group of biological boys living life as a woman? While I'm hoping this ISN'T where Yana is going with it, there's only one transgender woman in the series who we haven't seen in quite some time and that's Grell.

[gh0stedheartz]

❌Sebaciel shippers DNI ❌

•I am thoroughly bothered by it. I feel almost protective over Ciel, and with him being 13, it is beyond inappropriate for people to be shipping him with an adult. This is beside the fact that Sebastian is a demon and probably thousands of years older than Ciel, if Ciel was an adult then it would be okay.

But shipping Ciel with Sebastian is encouraging pedophillia. I don't care if the fanart 'looks cool' or whatever, Sebastian is an adult. Age does matter! All those who think the same will protect Ciel from these toxic ships and protect Sebastian's reputation. And don’t get me started on the “it’s just fictional!!” Yes, but you are exposing MINORS to this type of content and they will think that this shit is normal because it’s “fiction”. You are encouraging something disgusting and minors will think being in an relationship with a adult is fine and might risk getting groomed. The ciel becoming a demon thing ISNT EVEN CANNON!! Entire s2 and half s1 isn’t cannon. Oh and also Sebastian doesn’t feel love, or any emotion. It’s just a facade to fool others, and the s3x scenes (the nun one ain’t even cannon) was just him wanting to get information. And yes I do admit that they do have SOME weird scenes, BUT THAT IS JUST SEBASTIAN MANIPULATING CIEL!! Keep in mind ciel IS his food, he’s just making his dinner tastier. HE ALSO TOOK THE APPEARANCE OF CIEL HIS DECEASED FATHER TO MAKE HIM TRUST HIM EASIER!! Also ciel hates him because in order to summon him, they had to sacrifice ciel his twin brother. SEBASTIAN SO GOOD AT MANIPULATING HE MANIPULATED THE AUDIENCE LOLOLOL

[pandoranobox]

So I recently binge watched S4 of Black Butler (public school arc) and naturally, being my autistic self, it rekindled my hyperfixation. ANYWAYS it got me thinking that my parents let me watch it when I was a child. Like…. I think that should have been a clue I was going to grow up mentally unstable.

I wanted to be Grell, slay queen girl boss.

I thought Sebastian was hot(who didn’t) even though he’s not real.

I wanted to dress like Ciel (slay)

And then I remembered the nun scene. Ya…. That one. I watched it. When I was 6 or something. But that was fine by my parents. But the scene of voldemorts recreation in the fourth movie, heads being chopped off in LoTR, THAT WAS TO GROSS. (According to my parents)

Anyways…. Who else watched BB as a child?

[avionvadion]

Man, I knew Black Butler was weird and a little messed up from when I watched it in like middle to early high school (kinda glad I didn’t understand the nun scene back then because I understand what Bassy was doing now and yikes. Thankfully it’s non a canon scene) but I just finished rewatching Book of Circus (which is canon) last night and while I remembered certain things (like the big prosthetic reveal and the true reason why Ciel hired the trio) I did not remember just how fucked up it really was.

Like… that entire bit with the kids and the manor just kinda had me staring at the screen in horror, and then there was everyone being (unsurprisingly) killed. Joker had the saddest death of the entire circus troupe, me thinks. That or the most pathetic. Honestly all of their deaths were sad. I actually really liked Beast.

And then the reveal that everything they were fighting to protect in the first place had stopped existing long ago, so their deaths were essentially pointless???

They were traumatized and abused and blackmailed, and they all wanted out of the situation they were in but were afraid that their “siblings” would be punished and/or would lose the support of what’s-his-face, their “father”, so they kidnapped more children and killed any witnesses and Joker had to watch as many of those children they kidnapped died because their “father” wanted entertainment and he felt too powerless to stop it and could only stand there and flinch and look away as children dragged the dead children’s bodies away, and continue on with the “show”.

And everyone just. Died. Not ever learning they were lied to, that their “siblings” were already dead, with Joker being the only one to learn that their prosthetics were made of human bone from the deceased children, and he literally died crying, horrified and disgusted and helpless, realizing what a fucked up situation this all was and that he had walked right into it, and that his found family had been sent to their deaths.

Like what the fuuuuuckkkkkkkkkk.

And then they had a little girl with braids at the end that was selling fruit look like the girl you saw get kidnapped at the beginning (a little girl with braids selling flowers) who you then watched get stabbed to death, which is maybe why Ciel tells Sebastian to buy a fruit from her.

What the fuck. What is this show.

I’m still gonna watch it but like what the fuck.

Also, I see you camera. I see what you doing with Ciel and Daddy Phantomhive and the camera angles. I know the spoilers. I see you. Tricky, tricky, but you can’t fool me! He’s on the left, now he’s on the right? He’s super extroverted and bubbly and sweet but now he’s super shy and can’t talk? I see you.

[hydrrangea]

Sorry, I got exited that you answered and pressed the ask button too fast 💀💀 but too answer your question, ask a BB fan id say a Gen z fan but something tells me it'd just be a better flavor of 'where tf am I'. I see the isekai genre used in fanfics a lot and nearly every time it's someone who already knows the universe but where the fun in that? Like imagine you don't know anything ab black butler but you end up there not knowing anything or anyone. Like Sebastian just gets done with that nun scene and your just like, covering your nose and side eyeing him while going "ughhhh brother, ughhh, what's that! What's that brother!"😂😂😂 But what I think is the funniest is a reader who turns up with no knowledge but can just read people without trying. It'd be like:

Ciel: you seriously think you can tell me something about myself that I don't already know? *Sarcastic tone*

Reader: you have PTSD and bipolar depression.

But idk about you I be bulling the shit out of Sebastian whenever I like BB.

Sebastian: *irritated bc of the 'destructive trio'*

Reader: C H I L L Baphomet. Save some angst for the rest of us😔😔😔

Ppl be like "well what about grell"

Reader: *sees grell*

Also reader: come over here and kiss me on my hot mout-

You get it😂😂 but yeah I think the funniest type of gen z reader who genuinely think their the dumbest person alive, so they act like it. Like their actually rlly smart, but just doesn't act like it.

RIGHTT. I would find it more interesting if it was someone who didn't know anything about BB. There are so many more possibilities for content!

And yeah, a reader who has no knowledge whatsoever but being able to read other people easily is so comedic.

I just know that they would say something to someone that would be so out of pocket 😭 Like something that would make them re-think everything.

Readers who appear and act really dumb but are actually really intelligent is the best genre.

[myreygn]

Sebastiannnnn

And Joker, cause I know how much you love your boi 😉

ahhh yesss gladly!!

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Sebastian

favorite thing about them;

his obsession with cats is probably my favorite running gag on the show

least favorite thing about them;

it's not necessarily his fault or something about him as a person but i hate hate HATE the shots where he helps ciel put on his stockings they're so icky to me just from the perspective

favorite line;

sebastian has the best lines hands down- "i had always thought you seemed rather adept at moves like stay and fetch" has to be up there for me, sebastian bullying ciel is my favorite thing in the world i'm sorry i hate this fucking kid (honorable mention was the sex scene with the nun where she was like "i can see the light" and he went "oh sorry that wasn't my intention" or smth like that i watched it in german but that's literally the only scene i really remember from s1 😭)

brotp;

i can't really recall why but i remember that i liked his dynamic with agni, i don't even remember if they liked each other but having them be actual friends, or something akin to that... idk it intrigues me

otp;

i read ONE modern au sebastian x joker fic and half of that was smut but i really liked it and it stuck with me - that being said i'd only ship sebastian for angst purposes, i don't want and don't see him in a happy healthy relationship with anyone

notp;

given that i have expressed my disdain for ciel multiple times i don't think i need to actually say it out loud and summon the angry mob

random headcanon;

there are rooms in the manor which ciel never sets foot into (not because they're secret, just because they're for servant work) and sebastian uses those rooms to house a battalion of cats he found outside

unpopular opinion;

his legs are too long idk i don't really have unpopular opinions on sebastian i think

song i associate with them;

Ich bin ein wahrer Satan by ASP (the titel is literally I am a true Satan/Devil) and it's actually meant as a critique on people who refuse to see the things that are wrong in this world and how the powerful instrumentalize them and the I in the song basically says "you don't want to admit who's really at fault so you point your finger and blame it all on me because i have the guts to call you out" but if you take that meaning out of it the lyrics could very well be sebastian just judging everyone and having fun with it, so more in a "keep pointing your finger at me, it won't save you :)" way

favorite picture of them;

this one is so funny to me like sebastian doll that cat is out to get you

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Joker

favorite thing about them;

he tries so hard to be a showman through and through, to feel nothing and fake everything like honey i'm sorry i think your heart is a little too full for that

least favorite thing about him;

the color of his bow in the anime is so ugly i'm sorry can we just make it proper yellow PLEASE

favorite line;

allow me to play a clip (no i did not screenrecord this specifically for this purpose yes i've had that saved in my gallery for several weeks)

brotp;

i really like the sibling bond between him and doll, they make me very sad and i love it

otp;

i. actually. okay i have THOUGHTS about beast and joker i need the angst the drama i never want them to be happy in any timeline ever

notp;

i've seen kelvin x joker tossed around and let me just say ewwwww

random headcanon;

i actually have a post for that thank you so much for asking <3

unpopular opinion;

there are none all of my opinions on joker are correct and should not be questioned

song i associate with them;

it's just german song after german song with this game i'm sorry but Der Sandmann by Saltatio Mortis - it's like a dark version of the sandman, how he has power over dreams and horror, how he can both bring beautiful dreams and death and ofc it's about a mythological nightmare figure but it reminds me so much of the way noah's ark drugs and kidnaps the children

favorite picture of them;

i like my men devastated and broken

[blackbutlerfandomnerddomain]

What do you think of Mathilda Simmons from Black Butler?

Me nearly forgetting the infamous Nun Scene

I don't hate her, kind of a shame she's known and picked on for sleeping with Sebastian, someone who we also joke is a manwhore so-

[coffeewithmytea]

My current reaction to the chapter. Am I the only one who felt a bit uncomfortable with the whole force-young-boys-to-dress-in-short-skirts-and-look-like-nuns-thing?

Like, firstly, the whole speech by Artie was WAYYY anachronistic, so I think that should've been toned down a bit (we're still in 1889, right?).

And secondly - yes, fair, I'm fine with this orphanage teaching boys how to cook, sew, etc., all VERY important skills - but can we just let these boys dress how they want (which I highly doubt is frilly miniskirts and nun headdresses)?

Like, there was a weird loli quality / hazing kind of feel to the whole scene that just...didn't need to be there and totally distracted from the important punch line at the end.

I dunno...it just...annoyed me.

Also, I'm ready to move to the hotel with Sebastian & Ciel, as these side stories are getting quite draggy...

[nullbutler]

Christlois lore - only read if you’re okay w spoilers!! I might delete this later

And thank you SO MUCH @hateweasel for helping me come up w the lore and Demon-Angel mechanics

to start from the beginning, the reason Alois is even in this situation is because he had to take an uncover mission as the queen's spider. it was set in a church, obviously, where he was supposedly inspecting some unsavory pastors. just the typical murder stuff. an open and shut case where the 'clean up' is indistinguishable from the detective work. Ciel was contacted about this too, but he was busy w something else.

anyway the reason Alois even decides to ENTER this church where NONE OF HIS DEMONS PHSYICALLY can follow (strong godly energy, me changing the rules of the universe, whatever) is because he was mad at Claude

Claude pulled a Sebastian-at-the-end-of-season-1 and basically vanished for a little while to hunt down more souls. he was PLANNING on coming back, but he was hungry and tired and yknow needed a day out on the town devouring people. he was also growing a bit more irate and just, generally, alois and him were on bad terms.

Also, in this canon, Alois and Ciel HAD previously met, but it was on a job. None of the season 2 bullshit happened. However, Claude was still 👀ciel’s soul

Anyways, Alois goes into the church in disguise as a Nun. this is because yknow he loves crossdressing and ALSO he didnt want any external help. boy wanted to prove himself. but he gets a little too into character and actually listens to a few sermons. this idea of unconditional love and salvation from sin appeals to him...but he tries to push through it. and then, of course, the sisterhood has their joint-bathing ritual and he has to sneak out because they can't know hes a guy yada yada,...only he gets caught by ANGELA, an older nun and the feminine 'form' of Ash.

Should be noted that this scene takes place outside, and Angela is never seen actually within the church

Anyway she basically says "trans rights baby' and 'as long as you wear that uniform, it doesn't matter who you are, you are a nun like the rest of us ^^' and is just generally weirdly sweet and understanding. However, at the last moment, once his guard is dropped, she grabs him by the face and tells him if he ever needs some.. divine interference. .. he just has to forgo that contract, and he'll have a ticket into heaven (as long as he does what she says)

SO things progress. Angela/Ash show him the memory of Luka's death. he realizes the demons have been lying to him. he decides FUCK IT - and goes and kills claude (in the animatic), strikes his contract with a blade, and forms his alliance with Ash. Only...only he doesn't want the ticket for himself. Oh no. He doesn't care if he goes to hell. He wants to hunt down and kill HANNAH ANNAFELLOWS so he can liberate Luka's soul and send Luka to heaven...

here's the issue. Luka is tiny, but he's racked up a fuck ton of sin. he was born out of wedlock for starters. he was a thief, not to mention contracted a demon and by proxy killed an entire village. so, grinning, Ash tells Alois that if he TRULY wants to save Luka, he's going to need to work overtime and basically be Ash's puppet. To which Alois desperately agrees, and they go on their merry way

With Alois Ash’s puppet, Ciel and Sebastian are havin their own issues. Namely, they find Hannah and Claude’s corpses and realize “aw fuck someone is killing demons!! Also that Trancy kid disappeared - he’s probably dead too!”

Ciel senses some sort of eldritch power within that Church - one Sebastian can’t enter - and so he investigates, but gets caught by Alois. Alois ties him up and says Ash ordered him to break his contract with Sebastian - by carving out his eye. He also calls Ciel a “lamb” as in lamb of the lord, and it’s just kind of creepy. Ciel tries to cut himslef out of the ropes via a blade hidden in his shoe. At the last minute, he escapes and runs and Alois chases him. The glass mosaic paintings shift and Ciel sees ash’s face watching him through them — so creepy!! Anyway, Ciel escapes to the top of the roof, where he throws himself over the edge and is caught by Sebastian, who can’t enter the church but CAN orbit it. The two escape and leave Alois standing there

Here’s the other thing. Alois is weirdly powerful. He’s oddly strong and heals quickly. But he looks a little odd. His hands are the wrong size. This is because ASH has been USING HIM AS A VESSEL and has been STITCHING THE DISEMBODIED SKIN AND FLESH of SAINTS to him, giving him this sort of Christian God Power. So one arm is simply Saint Jude’s. There are patches of transfused skin on his back and on his other arm — Latin tattoos that he cannot fully understand.

These pieces are sewn to his flesh by “harp string.” A thread made by Ash. It is later revealed to be, in actuality, spider silk from Claude’s corpse, harvested by Ash.

Ash wants to make Alois his vessel. He doesn’t care about the boy. He, also, is not an Angel, but a FALLEN Angel, a thing more disgraced than a traditional devil. Ash CANNOT enter the church any more than Sebastian can. Ash wants to reclaim his Angelhood.

Another issue - the threads being used as actually KEEPING the saintly body parts from properly transfusing to Alois. Because if they DID, that would make ash INCAPABLE of touching Alois, and thus incapable of using his vessel. The tattoos are a method of ash possessing alois’s body and, through a loophole in the system, using these artifacts

So anyway the ending is a little vague at the moment, BUT. Ciel ends up siding with Alois. He - HIMSELF, not Sebastian becayse Sebastian can’t touch something so holy - has to cut the saintly artifacts stitches off and save Alois (around the later half of the fic he goes from being really powerful to really sick due to the corruption). This happens inside the church, where neither demon can reach them.

Anywya, outside Sebastian kills Ash. The end. That was really long HDHDH

[mymainwastoocluttered]

NO FR BB HAS SOME VERY CRINGE OLDER EPISODES

It’s gets way better later but like yhctg

The ‘training’ scene (completely inaccurate and even for the tone outdated)

The disgusting overly sexulized scene of Sebastian putting a girdle on Ciel

The count. I don’t need to say shying wise he’s selling children/woman into trafficking and gets released on bail in a day

Pluto outright being in a intimate relationship with ‘Angela’ (he’s just a fucking dog with a human body who the fuck thought this was ok??)

Sebastian fucks some lady 20 feet away from Ciel where he can hear it TWICE

I was thinking a bit more along the lines of: while Kuroshitsuji does not shy from ridiculousness and exaggeration (as it's common in anime, specially 2000's anime), some parts of the original anime are excessively cartoonish to the point it feels like I'm watching something else entirely

It's particularly jarring when outside those moments of fun shenanigans, the story takes itself very seriously, and keeps the overall tone of suspense/mystery. And then, suddenly, there's Pluto hugging Sebastian, or Grell appearing for no apparent reason.

Grell doesn't even get a theatrical entrance worthy of the Queen she is, the absolute disrespect.

I believe in the Viscount Druitt being out of jail practically the next day because ✨noble and rich✨. Not once is Kuroshitsuji interested in saying nobles are good, so... I think it's interesting that he sold people and organs and stuff, wish they did more with that (particularly, I wish the whole "the Phantomhive family is not one for justice and honor, they just keep the balance between the overworld and underworld as the Queen wishes" was better explored. I mean, why were none of the other nobles present at the auction punished? How did a Viscount (one position lower than Earl) manage to do all of that for so long under Her Majesty's nose? Why is Ciel not hunting down other human traffickers? Lot's of strings to pull here)

Honestly, the whole Pluto–Angela plot to me is terrible and I'd gladly have it completely erased. In fact, let's just delete most of the latter part of the original anime. I hate how that ends, I hate the plot, I hate hate hate it. I don't mind Pluto as a concept, but I wish he wasn't just "giant dog that keeps being a dog when he turns human". Can't he just be a guy with dog traits? Like how Snake is a guy with snake traits? Also, why a giant dog??? That fits literally nothing of the story so far. I thought the point was to make non-human characters to be "human but off", not "fantasy rpg party"

The sexual undertones within Sebastian and Ciel's interactions are 2000's anime trope that I have trained myself not to pay attention to. It was a bit funny with the corset joke, and only then. Then again, can't blame them for trying to please the shippers, Western cartoons also do that a lot, except with less "sexy sparkle kyaa" and more "and they got together despite making no sense". Still hate it, please stop. Get some help

(though, ugh, that "sex scene" is also so stupidly cartoonish and ridiculous, I want to hit something. This is the beginning of the last big arc, why are we still flip flopping between the mystery and the shenanigans? Get serious, damnit. I'd rather just have a quick scene where they show Sebastian leaving the place while buttoning up his pants while Grell bites her handkerchief in jealousy. There, it's implied what happened, no need for an entire uncomfortable scene that ends in an unfunny joke)

I think it's kinda funny how Ciel is supposedly innocent but he doesn't react to Sebastian fuckin that nun. And Sebastian absolutely gives no shits about who's hearing, he's a demon, remember? Can't be angry at him for being immoral, that's the sole reason behind his existence. Also, Ciel himself stayed there, it's not like his legs don't work, he could've left and waited for Sebastian to give him the information after. I'm just thinking, did they forget Ciel is heavily traumatized? Is he ok with hearing sex noises so near, considering what he has gone through?

[noloveforned]

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