#that scene still has me dying of laughter every time. the fact that the ep starts with joxer
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marley-manson · 7 months ago
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The scene in Been There, Done That when Xena wakes up and immediately murders Joxer before rolling over and going back to sleep is the epitome of what I love about the groundhog day trope.
Like please give me some insight into what this character is like when there are no consequences, that's like half the draw for me. Give me hilarity as well, because if a groundhog day fic doesn't have shennanigans what's the point? I want to see the character driven half out of their mind from frustration and boredom, taking advantage of their ability to predict exactly what happens, and again taking advantage of everything being erased the next day.
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coinofstone · 4 years ago
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5x12 The Diamond of the Day pt 1
Final two episodes! Big finale! Why am I making myself cry in the middle of the afternoon! Both eps in this post.
I do love that they made Arthur a sore loser
Enter treacherous white woman #2. Srsly it was lazy writing when they did it for Mordred, it's worse now with Gwaine.
I do love the actual Round Table war room discussion but a) why isn't Merlin seated at the round table and b) why does Leon have so much goddamn faith in Camelot's walls? Like??? You literally said the same thing last year and yet Camelot *did* fall when Agravaine brought an army through the tunnels!
Poor Aithusa. Kid's had a rough life.
I do love Arthur responding to Merlin presenting him with all his supplies ready - which he prepared without his magic mind you - with suspicion 😂
But then he calls Merlin a coward and it's sad
Katie has such a great voice. That entire thing in the cave from her taunting to her laughter to the spell, it just just beautifully played.
Whole ass battle to prepare for and Arthur is just walking around moping cuz Merlin isn't there
So, Merlin's father-vision telling him he's magic itself and he just needs to believe in himself to get his magic going again, does this mean he *didn't* need to go to the cave to get it back? Cuz it seems like he needed to recharge in the cave itself, his injuries were healed when he woke up. That seems like magic cave stuff to me.
Also that "always have been and always will be" - I'm taking to mean 'always have been' in the sense that since he's 'magic itself' even before he was born, his magic existed in other, intangible forms, like we are all stardust etc. But now that he is, he will always be, aka he will not die.
Arthur waking up with his wife in his arms and Merlin's name on his lips, jumping out of bed to act on dream-info.
Balinor telling Merlin to trust in what will be.... like bitch that is literally not how this ends.
5x13 The Diamond of the day pt 2
You know that gif of the cat knocking everything off the table? That's literally Merlin shooting lightning at everyone from his perch on the ridge.
I have a lot of snarky things to say about Merlin coming out of the cave in full Dragoon gear and riding a horse instead of teleporting like the other witches but I'ma keep that to myself.
Mordred is a bitch and Aithusa has terrible aim. At least Aithusa's loyalty to Morgana makes sense.
Arthur said oh shit I'm magic - oh wait no it's that old man again
He also straight up "No! Bad dragon!"-ed Aithusa
Y'know, for all I've watched this episode and screamed about Arthur's death, I don't think I've ever focused on the exact moment he gets stabbed before.
Mordred catches him from behind and he meets it, no fault there. But as soon as he realizes his assailant is the knight who turned on him and joined Morgana, what does he do? HE LOWERS HIS FUCKING SWORD
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He leaves himself wide fucking open and vulnerable and Mordred seizes the opportunity. I understand wanting the moment of recognition for Arthur, but on what planet is a trained warrior going to drop his sword mid-attack because he recognizes his attacker as a dude who only just recently decided to forsake him? It's soooooo dumb
There was a whole sequence a few episodes back where Mordred and Arthur are sparring, the point of it was to show that Mordred has become a skilled swordsman. So what exactly was the point in having Mordred run Arthur through as soon as Arthur idiotically lets his guard down? This should've been a meticulously choreographed sword fight, with Mordred getting the upper hand and sticking Arthur properly. Not this nonsense. Look at Arthur's FACE! Oh, Mordred... 👉👈 do you maybe wanna be friends again- STAB ... guess not
Uther's been rolling in his grave but he's taking an extra tumble watching Arthur forget all his skills and training in that moment.
I do appreciate Arthur getting Mordred back though. Like that moment of merciless anger followed by the hurt and regret playing on Arthur's face, warring with surety and responsibility. It was good.
I've rewatched the big confession scene about 16 times just now.
I don't quite understand why Merlin took Arthur to the woods to begin with. Instead of bringing him to the med tent in the battlefield or back to Camelot. What was the reason?
Merlin saying it feels strange (to use magic freely in front of Arthur) and him just going 'yeah' completely deadpan makes me laugh every time.
I really feel like Arthur's head should be elevated at a further incline if he's going to be fed.
Gaius refusing to outright expose Merlin as the sorcerer but nonetheless letting Gwen figure it out on her own warms my heart.
My God Arthur is sitting there dying, feeling betrayed about his best friend 'lying' to him, and still he can't stop himself from looking at Merlin's mouth.
Percival summoned MUSCLE POWER
Hey um random but why does Gwaine even know where Merlin and Arthur are headed? Why would Gaius tell him?
Arthur looks at Merlin so lovingly after he's killed Morgana 😭😭
And now he's literally grabbing at the man's hand 😭 "just hold me, please"
That's gotta be the gayest death scene in television history. If you can watch that without thinking Arthur puts his hand on the back of Merlin's head because some part of him wants to bring him down for a kiss, or that "just hold me, please" is in any way shape or form a 'bros' thing, and certainly not at all an intentional mirror/callback to Isolde dying in Tristan's arms, then I'm afraid you are what we professionals refer to as a dumb-as-nails fucknugget, more commonly phrased as 'willfully ignorant'.
"All that you have dreamt of building has come to pass" yeah except for the whole, y'know, magic still being illegal thing.
I've said this before, but, while I'm sure there was a determined intention to have Arthur die in his armor, probably in some kind of attempt to make sure the audience knows he's died a warrior's death, I *really* think it was kinda stupid that Merlin never removed it, despite Arthur being weak, despite the fact that there was something like five days between him getting stabbed and him actually dying, despite that for the duration of that time they were traveling or hiding out. Merlin managed to produce a cloak to put on Arthur, why did he need the full armor on that whole time? Like even if they left the chainmail on, those plates on his shoulder were just getting in the way, and it looked quite uncomfortable.
Also not for nothing but Lancelot got like, every flower in the forest surrounding lush verdant greens in his death boat, Arthur gets a bunch of sticks.
It suddenly occurs to me, watching this now, that the reason Leon/Percival is such a common side pairing in Merthur fics, is because these two motherfuckers are the only original Knights of the Round Table to survive the series. 🤦‍♀️ I dunno how I failed to notice that before now. My stupidity amazes me.
I'm *really* glad they decided to do this scene with Gwen wearing the Pendragon red dress instead of the black mourning dress. Yes she looks fabulous in it but it's more the symbolism than the 'reality' - with Gwen wearing her house's colors it represents a continuation rather than a finality. Camelot will go on, Gwen will undoubtedly end the war on magic and with Morgana dead (and frankly, I think by now she already brought about the death of all the angry incel type rulers in Albion) there stands to reason her reign will begin with a period of peace, possibly longer than Arthur's. We kind of have to assume that the 'time the poets speak of' is, inevitably, Gwen's reign - which only came about through Arthur's death. It's a little bit toooo subtle in my opinion, but at the same time, I understand the need for the focus on Merlin and Arthur - after all, this show was their journey - not leaving much time to focus on Gwen and Camelot in the aftermath of Arthur's death.
I will just say, the first time I watched this that fucking truck scared the ever living shit out of me. I also just immediately, viscerally hated that scene and declared it invalid - but I think it was because the truck made me jump out of my skin. It has since grown on me, particularly once I started reading 'Arthur Returns' fic.
Everything beyond this point is post-series spec and headcanon, so if that's not your jam you can exit safe in the knowledge that as usual, if there's anything worth commenting on in the S5 extras, I will create a separate post!
For those interested, my go-to post-series fic is We Begin Again by katherynefromphilly I fully headcanon this series as the continuation of the series.
I have a lot of thoughts about Gwen and Merlin post-Camlann.
For one, poor fucking Gwen. She's lost her father, her brother, and her husband, all by what, age 30? That's rough. And who knows what happened to her mom, that was pre-series and I don't think it was ever mentioned.
Merlin, dear god poor Merlin. First of all, I just wanna say straight off that my instinctive headcanon about Merlin was that he never returned to Camelot. I couldn't really say why exactly. I just don't think he could stand being there after Arthur's death. But practically speaking, Merlin's still got Aithusa to deal with, that dragon needs some godsdamned house training asap. He's still the last Dragonlord, it's reasonable to assume he'd immediately take that on considering Aithusa is partially responsible for Arthur's death (the sword Mordred killed Arthur with, only succeeded in killing Arthur because it had been forged in Aithusa's fire-breath) so he's either going to attempt to train the bad behaviors out of Aithusa, or...well...
The only thing is, I do not believe Merlin would abandon Gwen, or Gaius. So my hc is inherently flawed. I do think Merlin probably spend a couple months with his mum, and I do think he ultimately settled near lake Avalon waiting for Arthur's return.
But I do wonder, what must their relationship have been like? Gwen, surely, would've sought his guidance in establishing laws governing the use of magic. And surely, peace cannot last indefinitely, so Merlin absolutely would've defended Camelot and protected Gwen. There's just no way he could've completely turned his back on them, but I doubt he could bear living in Camelot. And Gwen is both strong and practical enough to get on without him there 24/7, even though I'm sure she'd miss him.
I also think she would've found love again. Whether with Leon, as many people hc, or someone else not in the series.
ANYWAY.
Thanks to everyone who came on this journey with me. I will post comments on the extras if I have anything worth saying - and I think I'll do a master post linking all these episode posts after I clean them up once I get time to sit at a computer and do so. Until then! 💙💚
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kinetic-elaboration · 4 years ago
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September 25: 1x16 The Galileo Seven
I took a half day off today and had a three hour nap in the afternoon. Now I’m feeling, I think, better?? Perhaps?
Anyway, today’s ep is The Galileo Seven, aka capitalizing on Spock’s popularity time.
Hmm, a vague and undefined phenomenon perfect for scientific study--Spock will love this. (Aka Kirk’s real reason for investigating the quasar. Just a little gift for the bf.)
Yeah Shuttlecraft Galileo! I love the shuttlecrafts; I think they’re adorable.
New Paris Colony.
The Commissioner isn’t wrong, though, like this probably isn’t the time to go on a random exploratory mission. Ah, yes, this weird space anomaly full of unknown dangers--let’s launch our most important officers right into the center of it while we have time sensitive supplies onboard. I mean come on, there’s a plague going on!
Love the shaky movements of the shuttle as it flies through space.
Hmm they’re exploring an unknown weird space thing and something goes wrong? Who could have predicted that? Other than Boma, who’s like ‘this is actually really normal though?’
Kirk’s sigh right before the credits lol.
Uhura taking over for Spock.
Those doors looked awfully, um... not metal when they opened. But I still like the design.
This is a good episode for understanding what ���logic’ means to Spock. Like people, including people in this ep, talk about it as if it were just being emotionless and not caring about others but it’s a whole philosophy/value system and he adheres to it pretty well.
Shuttlecraft Columbus.
Kirk has such a big headache right now. He hates having someone step on his command toes.
I love this Bones and Spock conversation. “This is your chance for command.” “I am a logical man.”
Those pants really are terrible. Everyone always on about the skirts but no one ever talks shit about those horrendous pants.
Spock gets to show off his legs standing in a V like that though lol.
Philosophy 101: The Trolley Problem.
“My choice [of who to leave behind] will be a logical one.” Stop bullshitting, Spock lol. “Idk man... logic?”
Well his decision just got easier by about 1/3.
It’s Pauna! Oh wait wrong show. Thank God.
Spock is talking about how this spear looks like something Native American but lbr it looks like a Vulcan spear and he should know. He’s the bitch with the ancient weaponry hanging on the walls of his quarters.
Spock could move the body way more efficiently, I mean he’s 3x stronger than these other fools. Look at the way he throws the spear as if it were made of cardboard. Which it is definitely, definitely not lol.
That quadrant name would make a good wifi password.
The commissioner truly has NO purpose here other than to be a human clock.
I understand Spock not wanting to waste time with the ceremonial duties of command or with burying a person while he could be working to save the people who are still alive...but I don’t believe for one moment he doesn’t know elaborate funeral services. The Vulcans love their rituals.
“We have no fuel! What alternatives?” Yeah lol that is pretty bad.
“Sensitive Vulcan ears.”
He literally just said they’re not tribal, Boma, are you not listening at all?
“I’m frequently appalled by the low regard you Earthmen have for life.”
Like Kirk always says, this isn’t a democracy.
Honestly this insubordination kinda seems like xenophobia to me in that I feel like everyone thinks it’s okay to be disrespectful to Spock because he’s an alien, because their human morality and philosophy is inherently right and Spock not following it is deserving of ire, even though he’s in command.
They’re on Spock’s back when he doesn’t seem to respect life enough and when he respects life too much like he cannot win.
Our duties to other life forms.
At least the reboots got Spock’s sass right.
I feel like Spock’s logical and emotionless responses are helpful though because I would be a straight up anxious mess. It just seems so clear to me, all the places where being unemotional is allowing him to act and keep control where a scared and confused person ruled by emotions would not be. I mean they’re all Officers and it’s not like McCoy and Boma are wandering around weeping or anything but still. Not all of Spock’s decisions are right but I’d be soothed by his attitude.
“Luck may be the only tool we have that works” reminds me of “Captain, you almost make me believe in luck.”
Kirk also makes a lot of command decisions here and it’s interesting to compare his style with Spock’s.
Loving the creature design and this is not a sarcastic comment.
“Certain scientific curiosity” about whether the crewman is dead. Sure okay.
See, I was right, he can lift and carry a grown man by himself.
That spear very much hit him lol.
Spock is upset. He lost a crewman. And logic isn’t working like it’s supposed to. I love that “They should have respected us” bit. He is a little arrogant, and for someone who’s spent most of his adult life around aliens, rather set in his idea that rational responses are the only responses.
He’s really having some revelations here. I bet he can’t wait to discuss all this with Jim.
I’ve seen that shot of Scotty just shoving a wrench in the wall and making sparks fly used in memes. Out of context it is quite hilarious.
Ugh, this is such a tightly constructed narrative. Love it.
Yeah, Boma, back off. This is just crossing a line.
“You will have your burial, provided the creatures permit it.”
Poor creatures honestly. These weird aliens keep showing up and bothering them.
This Captain’s chair is pretty wide too but Kirk manages to sit in it and look cool @ cpine.
Noooo you can’t leave them behind!
Uhura posing behind the Captain’s chair and looking at the screen like google earth always taking pictures.
Lol, space normal speed. (You’d think the Commissioner would show up at this point to be like bUt ThE pLaGuE but actually we never see him again.)
Those creatures aren’t even AIMING the spears they’re literally just throwing them parallel.
“Get us off, Scott.”
“Yes.... my first command.” Oh, Spock. I love him.
Love that Scotty’s really, genuinely proud of him. Scotty’s so Unproblematic. He really is just here to do his job and he’s never mean or causing trouble of any sort.
Jim will see the flares because he loves you!!
This poor actress playing the Yeoman has nothing to do. “Oh, it’s hot!”
Really living for Kirk’s face journey as he thinks all hope is lost and then realizes they’re (mostly) okay.
I want to hear what Kirk and McCoy are saying at the beginning of the last scene. I bet they’re talking about Spock.
Everyone gently making fun of Spock but in a ‘we love you buddy way.’ And Kirk using this, their one scene together all ep, to lay on the flirting extra thick. “Mr. Spock, you’re a stubborn man” is really pushing the flirtation meter off the charts.
They’re mocking him for making an impulsive decision but he was totally right AND he was totally logical imo? Like “you reasoned that it was time for an emotional outburst” is certainly one way to put it but another way is “the only possible chance we have of being detected AT ALL is to make a big scene and if it doesn’t work we’ll just die faster than we would have anyway” which is logical, and in fact, I think someone too caught up in their emotions might hesitate to do it. I mean, I’d probably hesitate--I think the emotional response to the situation is to want to stay alive as long as possible, even if you know--logically--that the difference between living another 6 minutes and another 26 minutes is nothing. You’d be better off giving away the chance for 20 extra minutes in exchange for a better chance of not dying at all. That’s logic bitches!
Kirk sees some hope for himself here. “Oh, Spock can follow his heart??? Perhaps... to me??”
I am not a fan of these fake laughter endings. They are so overdone lol. Uhura is literally pointing and laughing in the background. It’s not THAT funny guys.
That said if Beyond had ended with some fake laughter it probably would have improved the film substantially.
And that’s it! An excellently plotted episode, really well done on the level of craft. I really get off on that kind of thing. I know a lot of shows that can write entertaining episodes/seasons/multi-season plots but don’t have any, well, real logic to them and that’s not necessarily the worst but then when you see something that’s really just well made, it... well for me it triggers a very certain satisfaction.
Also this is easily a top 3 Spock episode. Great character stuff.
Next up is the Squire of Gothos, which I think is one of the weaker S1 episodes. Not bad, just not Classic level like almost every other ep.
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danwhobrowses · 4 years ago
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10 Things that would’ve Improved the Game of Thrones Final Season (For Me)
So it came to my attention that recently it was the First Anniversary of the Final Episode of HBO’s ‘Game of Thrones’. I was taken back to my memory of the BinGOT thing we had at work where we all made predictions of who lived, died and ‘won’ from the last ep (I was in 2nd or 3rd place). And since my mother has started binging it during quarantine I thought in the spirit of that environment I’d discuss a little what I would’ve changed in the final season.
Spoilers for Game of Thrones Season 8 Below, if you haven’t watched it then you’re better off not reading this frankly, if you haven’t been spoiled already at least.
So for starters, the final episode is not the worst tv I’ve ever seen, it just was a sloppy final season in general that really didn’t satisfy the 2 years of hype waiting for it, it’s like with the How I Met Your Mother finale, but that annoyance being more than one episode. But without further ado here are 10 things I would’ve changed about the final season Note: Most will involve the finale. The first 2 episodes were great.
10 - Ten Episodes The Long Night was 1 episode, the LONG NIGHT. A Culmination of the army of living and dead confined into one episode. One of the main problems with the final season was that the pacing was a bit rushed, it made character progression seem unnatural and dropped long-built plot points like water through a sieve. With 10 episodes, which was not a big ask given that this was the usual number and the gravitas of it being the final season would easily allow it to be green lit. D&D immediately backed themselves into a corner by giving a limit they weren’t used to and too much content to put in.
9 - Bite of the Spider Varys’ death was an upsetting start of the penultimate episode, while I would’ve loved him to have survived start to end and potentially ended on top (because he’s never shown to be as cunning or dangerous as he is in the books) there was some sense in him dying. However, Varys was shown sending a letter before his arrest and that never came back up, the finale could’ve used this by revealing to the public Jon’s true heritage, which would’ve immediately undermined Dany’s claim and set up a better conflict. Also we never knew what the voice in the flames said to him...
8 - A More Fitting Long Night While everyone probably popped hard for Arya killing the Night King, myself included, the nature of it was rather abrupt. I don’t think anyone can buy that she sneaked past that entire army. I do feel like the Night King was just a MacGuffin for the Long Night, given that he did so little in the actual fight. This is where a multi-part Long Night would’ve been key as well, going from the Night King being immune to Dragonfire to dying a bit later was not a good pace, and we lacked any conflict with Jon like we teased twice, Arya probably wasn’t the most poetic person to kill him either but GoT seldom did poetic deaths (Joffrey, Cersei, Euron). While the Long Night had exemplary deaths like Theon, Lyanna, Jorah and Beric, the Night King fell among the ranks of Melisandre and Edd in terms of meh deaths. The Long Night should’ve been a bigger bloodbath than it was, half the Dothraki somehow survived remember, we didn’t get to see Ghost fight at all either, no giant spiders, a lot of the tension was lost with the way some fight scenes were filmed; it was too easy to read between the lines and not enough characters had any true ‘oh god this person could die’ scenes.
7 - Resolution for the Characters we didn’t See and Plots unresolved With so much funding and finality in the show, there felt like there could’ve been more stuff that could’ve been resolved; what was the Quaith’s prophecy about? What really happened with the Doom of Valyria? Why does Dragonglass and Valyrian steel kill White Walkers? What is Daario doing after Dany died? Were the Faceless Men really that okay with letting Arya wander around knowing their skillset? Nobody hired them to help in the war either. What happened to the remnants of that warlock dude who stole the baby dragons, they sent one scorpion and that’s it, what happens with the Little Birds now that they’re leaderless? Who was Azor Ahai? What were the spirals about? There are a lot of questions the show kinda just, ignored. 
6 - The Mad Queen So, Dany going from ‘I’ll stop if they surrender’ to ‘Burn them fucking all’ was abrupt for many, the majority of fans were not ready or willing to accept turning on their Kaleesi in just one episode. While I could see the conclusion coming from being jumped, losing another ‘child’ and her closest friend as well as her new boyfriend being her nephew and a legitimate threat to her legitimacy despite already pledging fealty, Dany’s descent could’ve used more time, and less naivety.  While the death of the dragon was a huge shock, the idiocy fell on Dany in thinking that Cersei would play fair and wouldn’t try to occupy Dragonstone while she abandoned it. There also fell inconsistency when the same fleet and rows of Scorpion crossbows suddenly got Stormtrooper aim during ‘The Bells’. Euron is a renowned sailor, he ruined a Dornish fleet in a previous season, he may be an annoying bastard but you have to treat his naval tactics with a bit more respect - and make Dany less stupid with Cersei doing Cersei things. A lot of people definitely needed more time in buying the idea that Dany had lost her cool and that she blamed all of Westeros to justify burning everyone unashamedly.
5 - Proper Redemption We all know who we’re talking about. Jaime, Jaime, Jaime. In the end he just proved Olenna’s point didn’t he? And his turn away from redemption was only to serve as an example point for Tyrion to use to convince Jon to kill Dany. Jaime didn’t have to live, but he didn’t have to die rushing to Cersei’s rescue, or even due to Euron stabbing him. If anything Jaime should’ve died with some Honour, to be the inverse of Ned as he was presented in Season 1.
4 - My Lady does not have to mean M’Lady This is probably the most selfish ones of my 10 but as a shipper at my very heart and soul I wanted one, at least one, ship to survive this entire turmoil and Gendry and Arya were that couple. We almost had it as well, but then for some mad reason D&D decided that Gendry, despite literally saying that “none of it will be worthwhile if you’re not with me”, stayed in Storm’s End. Arya’s character endgame was right in her venturing off not being bound by the fact that she’s a noble, but Gendry spent a lot of time not caring that he was of Kingsblood to basically being his Father’s son. He’ll rule Storm’s End, marry some woman to have kids, but he’ll still have fallen into the same pit as King Robert did. It would’ve been much more satisfying and hopeful if Gendry abandoned the titles and land he never wanted or needed to accompany someone he loves and who loves him back on an adventure into the unknown. She���s not a ‘lady’ if she’s only marrying a blacksmith and love is the death of duty.
3 - Sansa is NOT Smart (and gets what she actually deserves) Right. So I really, really didn’t like Sansa. Like, I get it, she got held hostage by the Lannisters, watched her father get beheaded, got accused of murder, learned that her brother and mother died, watched the guy who fancied her mother and kissed her kill her aunt and then got effectively sold to an abuser in an arranged marriage. But Sansa is not the smartest player in the game, it was annoying that they tried to portray her as one, she had one idea that anyone could’ve told you ‘don’t be stupid against Ramsay Bolton’. She spent all of Season 8 mainly giving side eye like a petty bitch, completely trying to undermine Dany despite the two being very very similar (remember Dany was raped, sold off in an arranged marriage and watched family members get killed too) to the point where she was conspiring for Jon to usurp her. And in reality she took her ball and left, she was so pissy that the leaders didn’t pick her to be Queen of Westeros that she literally pointed out her own brother’s infertility, claimed that the North wouldn’t bow to a monarch, then declared herself Queen.  Hide the ‘Yas Queen’ goggles for a sec, this wasn’t empowering she was throwing her own brother under the bus because she wanted to be queen, and she learned far too much from Littlefinger and Cersei’s playbook to actually be a just one. The North is allowed to be an independent nation, but Sansa’s ‘victory’ was more earned by virtue of a lot of shit happened to her than her actually demonstrating qualities to be queen.
2 - Bran Stark can’t come to the Phone right now... While we’re on the subject of Stark children not being fit rulers, Bran. What a cockamamie decision that was. I was 100% behind the destruction of the Iron Throne, but the chorus of laughter with a democratic rule was a bit of a slap in the face. Of all the choices though, Bran had to be near the bottom, it felt completely unearned that he spent literal seasons disconnecting from the world even to the point where he told Meera and Sam that Bran Stark is no longer here anymore only for Bran Stark to magically resurface when a crown is in waiting. I think it defeats the whole Three Eyed Raven thing too, the guy isn’t really one for the people, which is the problem every other ruler before him failed at. If you can’t pick a just person to lead, then why not a council instead? Just using Bran was a poor and messy decision.
1 - THE MOTHERFUCKING VALONQUAR One of the few expectations across all of Game of Thrones was the wondering over whether Cersei was gonna get what’s coming to her, the Maggy the Frog prophecy was going along quite well up until the Valonquar bit, where the younger sibling that was going to choke the life out of her was: bricks. BRICKS! Of all the long-winded prophecy foreshadowings to drop this one was the worst, Cersei (and Jaime) died in underwhelming, thoughtless fashion, the lack of fanfare on killing off one of the best and most ‘love to hate’ villains in the show only cemented the fact that the finale was not able to live up to the hype. True, most of these are small changes, but it’s worth remembering that there was some good coming out of the final season and it was the lack of those little things and attention to detail that led to the season ending on an underwhelming note.
We did however get a good ton of memes out of it, and at work a long-winded discussion on who should get the ‘winner’ 5-points (compared to the 1 correct points) since we had technically agreed that the 5 points goes to “whoever correctly guesses who sits on the Iron Throne” XD I still can’t believe I was right in Drogon melting the throne though that was one in a million
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pynkhues · 5 years ago
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genuine question. would y'all still be looking forward to brio in s3 if rio shot beth three times in the chest and left her to bleed out? like it feels weird for y'all to be still calling their relationship a ~game and be excited about rio being "obsessed" with her, when she tried to kill him - thought she killed him and didn't particularly care once she got over her own trauma. i'm wondering if y'all picture the other way around and still feel it'd be worth being excited about.
That’s a question I’ve thought about quite a bit, anon, even before you asked it (I do try my hardest to interrogate my own behaviour and interests! Oh, gosh, that sounds nerdy, haha), and I think it’s an important one, so thank you for sending it my way! I hope I articulate my response okay!
Because it’s tricky, right? The show will always be walking a tightrope when it comes to how they portray this relationship - after all, it’s a relationship between a latinx man and a white woman (which is loaded on it’s own in many ways) set in a story world that is full of violence, manipulation and desperation/urgency on almost every narrative level (and that’s before we look at them together!). Plus said relationship heavily explores themes of power, control and a sort of base connection that exists despite all of it. 
And I think when it comes to the shooting, there’s one word in all of that that matters more than all the others, and that word is ‘power’. 
Where we were - where we have been - for two seasons now has seen Rio with all of the power and Beth with none of it. Yes, she has snatched scraps of it where she could, but with the exception of 2.06, it has consistently been wrenched back from her within a matter of scenes, not episodes - the clearest example of that being 1.10/2.01 when she got him arrested, only to come home to have him manipulate her, essentially expose the intimacy of their relationship to her husband in the way he disarmed her, before shooting said husband; and 2.04 - when she had the power in seducing him, and immediately lost it again when he took back his money and decided to pop out of a corvette at Boland Motors and strongarm a deal. Beth is, of course, not blameless in any of this - she’s routinely made destructive, impulsive choices, hell, she’s chosen this world, but the fact of it is that she has been disempowered for most of her life, as have Ruby and Annie, and arguably the whole point of this show is in exploring the ways they try to regain that power.
Rio shooting Beth right now would not only not make narrative sense, but it would also be the thematic equivalent of a lion taking down an already-limping gazelle. 
Instead, what we get is that limping gazelle somehow taking down the lion (however briefly, as I’m sure it will be). She’s seizing power from him in a game that he has been winning (and a game that has been escalating) since the very first episode. 
Were their narratives reversed - so were Beth a queenpin at the start of this story and Rio the wide-eyed, accidental ingenue, were she to have held the cards from the start, were their stories to mirror canon, and he’d shot her in the finale? Were it her laughing in the face of death? Actually, yeah, I think I’d be just as excited for the potential of S3. 
But that, of course, is not your question. So were Rio to have shot Beth in our canon, as the show exists? Where he still had all the power and Beth was still that limping gazelle? No, I wouldn’t be. She’d be even more disempowered than she was when Rio shot Dean in 2.01. Hell, she’d be more disempowered than she was when this show started, and that would ultimately rip the guts out of both of these characters and this ship.
Am I adverse to the possibility of Rio shooting her, should the circumstances/narrative call for it when she is in power, when she holds more of the cards, when she’s queenpin, somewhere down the track? I’m not, actually. Beth has now leapt into this life full-bodied (and it’s actually one of the things that excites me about her thinking Rio is gone - she has to take full ownership of her choices. She can’t blame him for creating and distributing her own counterfeit cash), and if she rises through the ranks to become ‘king’, she should be treated as such. Her gender shouldn’t - and can’t - make her invulnerable. 
And look, I’ll be the first to say that I didn’t love the choice narratively (at least not the way it was written), but I do like that it’s shifted Beth and Rio onto a slightly more equal ground (because even as partners, they were never really equal - Rio proved that the second he put a gun against her chin again despite her telling him to never do it again). 
Re: Beth not seeming to particularly care - I’ll also be the first to say - and have said before - that I hated that and that I think it’s very important that Beth have a grief arc in S3 before Rio explodes back into her life, and I actually think it’s important too that she have some PTSD, which, given how quickly they tore through the final scenes, I’m hoping we just didn’t get to see and that they’ll course correct in 3.01. 
There is, of course, a lot to be said too about how none of this behaviour is acceptable in real life, and about harmful tropes and the use of them on this show - from a latinx man being shot by a white woman, to ongoing threats of violence against women, to the flip-flopping on what the show’s trying to say about Dean’s misogyny, and the amount of time devoted to exploring a rapist (I was saying it to @lunafeather the other day, but I would LIVE for the cold-open of S3 being Boomer dying in a really dumb, embarrassing way, and the ep just cutting to Annie and Mary Pat separately watching it on YouTube and crying with laughter). But yes. That feels like a whole other post. 
I hope that answers the question!
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suggers-got-dingled · 7 years ago
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Well we've hit dec before we kno it the xmas ep will be upon us 😬 I'm both terrified and terrified 😂 I'm looking forward to all the photoshoots/trailers/OTT dryan content gimme it all but first we must endure the dr 2.0 right up until xmas my monoshipper heart is hurting ugh I just hope once we hit the new year Danny gets his Ryan back and we get robron and roblivion(plus gerry in small doses) only no added additions Overdramatic Anon P.s u looked so 😍 @ starry lunch x
Hey Bridie just popping in to say I hate almost all the spoilers for jan so ffs nothing's changed since march then 😂 I'm still sat waiting for my "twists and turns @ U IAIN I will hold out until lbr EO spills the beans about the end of this hell plot but yeah I'm tired™ angry™ emotional™ about robron so what's new ? Hope ur well and I feel ur monoshipper pain WHY MUST WE ENDURE THE DOCTOR AND HIS NON PERSONALITY AND ARMS ! anyhoo I still love u and ur blog Overdramatic anon x
OVERDRAMATIC ANON HELLO MY LONG LOST LOVE
I was gonna write back to ur first ask today once I’d finished up for the day but then I saw you’d popped by again so I combined the two... as per... bc I’m useless 
(honestly starry lunch was on the 2nd I’m so sorry for the delay lmao someone pls teach me how to keep on track with real life and fandom life pls but thank you, you lil sweetheart)
anywayyyy, how crazy fast has December flown by? W O W, in four days time we’ll be experiencing Robert’s festive suffering right there with him and I’m genuinely ecstatic about this fact tbh
...although I’m kinda sad he doesn’t appear to be at complete deaths door like we thought he would be lmao, that’s my only disappointment like when are we gonna get that bitch flatlining again??!?!
but I’m so excited for the absolute bonkers fun it’s going to bring!!!!
and along the way we know we get Robert in dick mistletoe so that in itself outweighs any woe we may have to endure
AND we got the artsy photo promo and behind the scenes dryan footage we greatly desired
bless those married tv husbands out to save the day whenever we need them  
I definitely think we hyped up January more than we should have done but it’s the beginning of a fresh chapter I know it is I can feel the approaching goodness in my bones 
not to say I don’t hate it (it also being the terms “twist and turns” “more to come” “keep watching”) because I do hahaha (kill me) but we only have a few more hurdles to jump over before we reach the satisfying point we’ve been waiting for 
‘DOCTOR AND HIS NON PERSONALITY AND ARMS’ made me choke with laughter fyi I’m dying
just know I’ll be right there along with you watching behind a cushion because every second of one half of my otp being with another person makes me more uncomfortable than Aaron himself looks every time he’s told to make contact with Alex
I’ll probably have another blip by the end of tonight’s double eps lmao my emotions are like a rollercoaster lately (and you always seem to catch me at the wrong times like when I’m close to a meltdown or craving a break pffft don’t jinx it for me anymore pretty please)
just kidding ily and I’m v glad you’re still here being the supportive anon I need to keep me anchored upright ❤️❤️
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